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AppleBerry Predicted?
dr_fatty writes "The Globe and Mail is reporting that analyst Peter Misek, who predicted a partnership between Research in Motion and IBM, is now predicting a partnership between Apple and Rim. The predicted result? The AppleBerry. 'Such a deal would have huge merit because each company lacks what the other provides. RIM wants a firm foothold in the consumer market and Apple doesn't have a presence in the booming wireless data sector, he said.'"
...though I'd probably prefer an e-Paper Psion.
Peter Misek, the new John Dvorak.
Combined with Steve's last name, are we all getting Rim Jobs? /shudders
Bramble and apple pie... mmm.
If only they'd also tie up a deal with Custard Research Inc. that would be, well, pretty sweet.
Apple's first foray into the mobile handset market was a total flop, but as more operators get turned onto the idea that they don't have to make back their entire investment in every single user download, Apple's technology will become more and more useful and desired in cellular phones. RIM and their Blackberry text messenger will soon be moot as more phones become more sophisticated and ultimately replace the Blackberry in the consumer market.
It's not a winning strategy for Apple, so I don't see why they would do it.
And I just bought my blackberry!
Oh well, enough people think that I'm gay anyways, no need to advertise.
It would be nice to have more power strapped to my hip though. The blackberry is a neat toy, but nowhere near the tricorder that they made it out to be.
I think that iBerry is a much more likely title than AppleBerry, since just about everything else Apple is i (iPod, iTunes, iYouNameIt...).
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Just think of the color-based opportunities. RIM and UPS could get together on a Dingleberry...
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I know it hasn't gotten much press time, but Apple(tm) is actually using Intel chips now! Bizarre, I know.
I want to see Mr Kipling get involved.
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I wonder if mobile phone giant Orange will release a similar gadget. Of course, product comparisons would be meaningless...
Argh.
First of all, "AppleBerry" sounds dumb, I would have gone with "MacBerry."
But anyway, Apple is clearly interested in getting back into the enterprise market, and a major sticking point right now is the lack of official Blackberry support from RIM. And yeah, the lack of Apple groupware, too, but my company has been having success rolling out Kerio MailServer on OS X Servers-- at least to clients who don't want/have Blackberries.
I couldn't care less about running iTunes on the Blackberry, but we need a Mac version of Blackberry Enterprise Server like nobody's business.
They're going to take a Black Berry, change the housing a little bit, make it a pearly white color, and call it the White Berry.
Then, in 6 months, Apple is going to release the exact same product, but in black. Apple will charge an extra $150 and call it the... wait for it... Black Berry.
That my friends, is what Apple brings to the partnership with RIM. The secret of how to charge $150 more for the same product, but in black.
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Appleberry Predicted?
Since when to you question whether something was predicted? Either someone thought about it and told people, or he didn't.
Baseless predictions do get old fast, though. I think the Tommy Boy take would go something like this:
I could tade a dump in a box and stamp it Predicted, but then all you'd have is a predicted piece of crap
This is so obvious, Apple will produce a mobile phone within 3 years, it will pretty much replace the iPod, it will do pretty much what Symbian phones do today except with several gigs of memory, an Apple OS and a few of the other things Apple is famous for, this is is pretty much fact. Blackberry, Motorola? - its all irrelevant the only thing we care is: when will it be released, how much will it cost and what will it look like?
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I'm a huge fan of Apple, despite being a PC user and complely un-trendy. It is one of the few corporations out there where I don't mind spending my money with them - everyone else I resent it. I would love to see a few really cool wireless gadgets out there courtesy of Apple and I'd certainly buy them. Buy RIM and Apple shares anyone? AppleBerry would be cool, just not BlackApple, please.
CLEARLY it's going to be called the iBerry. ...
Perhaps the iFruit?
hahaha, it's a berry, it's a fruit! It will [b]destroy the competition with it's sweet, sweet paradox of connectivity[/b]!!!!!
The predicted result? The AppleBerry.
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This could be it...
AppleBerry - the wholesome goodness of Apple mixed with the mind-numbing addiction of BlackBerry! Goes great with iPod as a part of this nutritious breakfast!
It better be called something else, and no I don't mean iBerry, BlackPod, or any other combination of the two names. Of course, they could revive the "Newton" moniker...
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I doubt this is in the works. Apple will more likely release their own product as they would have ultimate control of the product and the resulting user experience. I came across an article today titled "Apple's End-To-End Model Leads to Innovation and User Experience" You can find it at http://switchtoamac.com/site/apples-endtoend-model -leads-to-innovation-and-user-experience.html/
I do not think apple will fall for it. Whenever apple trusted a hardware co on whom it had no control,it has failed. Recall ROCKR with iTunes.
S.Jobs might pitch for a new phone which is branded Apple with hardware sourced by Apple. They always think BIG. No way I can see them being a part player for RIM.
There's been a lot of speculation that RIM will be coming out with a BlackBerry with a camera in the near future, too. However, the current 8700 has lots of multimedia features already (support for video, etc) and there's talk of an impending software release unlocking even more capabilities (like more frames per second).
With that always on data connection and most users subscribing to an unlimited data plan, it's easy to imagine ways where as iTunes enabled BlackBerry would solve a lot of Apple's iPhone problems (OTA podcasting anyone?)
I've always thought of both of these companies as user interface kings in their respective categories. I'd bet that they've at least had some discussions about the possibilities of such an agreement.
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Black Apple sounds so much cooler than that sissy berry crap. Besides, think of all those cool goth kids that would want one. Or maybe MacBlack - you could explode into a whole new ethnic community...
Are we absolutely sure that this 'Peter Misek' isn't just Dvorak in a wig?
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Blackberry's greatest feature IMHO is it's simplicity and streamlined function. I would not care for any more bells on the device than they already have. It's a tool rather than a toy and that's what makes it so effective. I would hate to have to help my CEO burn his music collection
Why not call it the Crabapple? Choke Cherry? Sumac?
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Newton still had a superior operating system. Put a phone into that platform, give it a modern faster processor and full color screen.
Why downgrade to a Blackberry?
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Appleberry
I honestly thought this was a genetic engineering story when I first saw it. Was imagining something that looked like a bunch of grapes that tasted like apples. Actually much more interesing idea than the real story as far as I can see.
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I'm amazed the discussion has gotten this far without any jokes about the RIM-Jobs partnership....
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Umm..
The idea of an "AppleBerry" partnership between Research In Motion Ltd. and Apple Computer Inc. was floated yesterday by Peter Misek, an analyst with Canaccord Capital Inc., who last year accurately predicted a partnership between RIM and Intel Corp.
This isn't FUD (as in Microsoft funding anti-linux studies), this is just an unsubstantiated rumor -- one which doesn't instill fear.
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Will the Crackberry be renamed the Crackpod allowing you to get your endless supply of Cracktunes from Crackapple??
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They are actually working on a blackberry dongle that plugs into the ipod's bottom.
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Haven't you heard? AMD is going to buy out ATI based on the "PC food chain" (load of shit). ATIs been doing more for cell phone designs (true) so it totally makes sense for them to buy RIM (I'm making this up). And once they have RIM it would be totally synergistic for them to partner to with Apple on a new product, like wow stock market price! Could you just imagine, you'd have a Crackberry with iTunes, a spiffy graphics card, and a 64-bit CPU! How much more synergistic could you get?!
Really, these Wall Street types are annoying. I can make up stuff just as well as they can, and I have just as good chance of being right.
The killer function of Blackberry is wireless synchronization of e-mail, calendar, contacts etc.. It talks to your corporate mail server, what's on your desktop is irrelevant. If RIM wants to make inroads to the consumer market they should be talking with consumer e-mail providers like Yahoo, MSN, Google etc. to setup wireless (push) synching services. The suggestion that consumer=Apple is stupid. More consumers own PCs. I love my Mac, but I don't need the Blackberry to work with it. I need my Blackberry to do wireless synching with my Yahoo account.
What's with all those predictions recently on Slashdot? Is that really a worthwhile content? Enough to be posted on Slashdot? Rumours for nerds, stuff that might be...
You might as well post some Nostradamus' quatrain and pretend you've seen the future of Apple in it.
In order for the American worker to maintain the global competitiveness Apple and RIM are introducing two new products. iRIMJob and iDingleBerry. First: Introducing iDingleBerry. Cling Different! Aids in data retention and improves workflow. Introducing iRIMjob. Lick Different! Kissing your bosses ass never tasted so good.
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If it's true it I'm all a-tingle about what Apple could do with the interface of the blackberry.
And while I'm on the subject of Apple interface, usability and simplicity, I wish they would get over the whole "We don't do cell phones" thing and just make one - or just design one - I'd love to get rid of the useless piece of crap phone I cart around that has what seems like 9 or 10 thousand extra (useless) features.
The new layout just became active for my account and I can't stand it. Can't even find "new layout goes live" to properly grouse about it. When I enlarge the fonts as I like to do in Firefox, text is mashing over top of other text. I hate the first column. How do I get rid of the whole darn thing? And two of the sections in the first column refuse to remain closed. Light layout is no improvement. I want my serif font back, boxes that look like boxes, and a paucity of useless columns. Don't moderate me -1 troll, moderate me -10 sour beyond all recognition.
The person who stands to gain the most is Misek and whomever he has been hired to shill for. I'm willing to bet there was a jump in stock prices for RIM when Misek gave his prophesy from whatever Olympus he bestrides. Which was the purpose of the announcement - to generate some action in an otherwise dull tech market.
When you get down to it, Apple doesn't need RIM - RIM needs Apple to help fight off whatever two-bit patent griefer decides to sue them next.
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there must be something in the air. First the Yahoo-Ebay thing (which turned out to be real), then the AMD-ATI thing, and now an Apple-RIM thing? What's next? A MS-Nokia deal?
Let's speculate like it's 1999!
"Please...somebody buy out them out....I love my Blackberry!"
Wouldn't iPad be a good name for a handheld blackberry-ish apple device???
Does anyone know if Research in Motion is hiring? I just graduated with some BS in CS, and I could use a RIM job.
commonly referred to as a palm pilot... full color screen, phone, applications, music player, movie player... the compact flash card pops right out and into any card reader... pretty handy i'd say.
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I think this colors should be the main section, not the wierd green...
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I think they would call it the MacBerry. shortly followed by MacBerryPro. :)
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I mean, honestly, Apple is going to partner up with a company that has been in litigation for most of its history about its product? I don't think Apple would want to expose itself to the kind of lawsuits that RIM has been struggling with. I am sure the moment an AppleBerry makes its way to the public, both RIM and Apple will be hit with patent infringement lawsuits and litigation.
The only reason I would see Apple needing to "partner" up with RIM is that Apple wants to use some of the patents RIM has in their product. Instead of paying licencing fees and having little control over it, partner up and then work with RIM to innovate.
But, this is all assuming that Apple is in the process of developing a PDA/Cellphone, which I think is still some Apple Fanboy's pipe dream. Steve Jobs has been very vocal against PDA's, and I think that an Apple PDA/Cellphone would be a small drop in a huge market, and Apple has never competed well in a market they didn't create (i.e. like the Desktop computer market, or the server market).
This is one of those Apple rumors I will believe when I have dropped $600 on the device and have buyers remorse for it.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
It's a little offtopic, but what I'd rather see a smartphone powered by a liteweight OSX. I just recently got a windows mobile phone and like it, but there are so many things that it limits or makes overly complicated. If Apple could do what it does best and simplify and polish the interface, the phone could pick up a lot of marketshare and yet again drive people towards purchising their machines. Blackberry is alright, but if I am going to carry something that big around in my pocket - I'd like it to be a little more than a corporate email client. Flexible email client, Address Book and a BASH shell would be a good start.
Why would Apple bother getting into the existing over-crowded cell-phone business? It means developing a device with cellphone techonlogy (GSM or whatever), and having to deal with the service providers, who will want a huge share out of the iTunes sales (or alternativly, provide the conection themselves, which is an even bigger nightmare).
What I think they should do is simply add wi-fi to the iPod, and you've got yourself a voip phone.
Apple will have all the control, while leading the market with the thecnology of the future, just as they like it. The timing is perfect too, since wifi is just getting widespread. Who wouldn't want an iPod that can make voip calls and conect to the net(meaning iTMS right in your iPod), for the price of an internet conection.
Worst case scenario, you don't have a constant wireless conenction in your area, and then it's just an iPod which sometimes has an internet conection - still a great deal.
Sounds like a scented candle or juice flavor. I can't think of a third company starting with Cran- to complete my joke with though...
Apple already had a product called the Black Apple. And it was actually an Apple product - and I actually used one (and came close to buying one) when they were being sold.
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Wow, what a partnership for RIM. RIM would gain another chunk of the market share.
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First of all, "AppleBerry" sounds dumb, I would have gone with "MacBerry."
Just don't ever put one in your back pocket and sit down, or you'll end up with a CrunchBerry.
RIM = BlackBerry
Steve Jobs = Jobs
Apple = Fruit
Berry = Fruit
RIM + Steve Jobs = Rim Job
RIM + Apple = Dingle Berry
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I'd rather it be combined with a treo, but Blackberry is fine too.
Seriously, it can't be that hard. Shit, I'm about 2 weeks from buying a nano and just duct taping it to the back of my treo.
I can't imagine how neat an Appleified treo with a wheel control grafted onto the back of it would be.
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Great, now they just need to expand their IPod business by merging with P.I.E. and then get into the Real Estate software business by merging with A La Mode. Appleberry Pie a la mode. Now that's a company I could sink my teeth into.
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But why is the rum gone?
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Step 1: Write article about Apple
Step 2: Add RIM to article about Apple
Step 3: PROFIT when SlashDot posts to front-page
They're going to call it the Black-I. Imagine the advertising slogan possibilities.
I just bought a Treo 700p because it can act like a wireless modem for my new MacBook. Trouble is, the Mac support is (no surprise) subpar compared to Windows. So I cannot tether with USB, only with Bluetooth, which means I will get limited data transfer rates. A wireless inroad by Apple would make such ubiquitous networking for road warriors really cool. I still bought the $500 treo, by the way, because it's so cool to be able to google something up from literally anywhere.
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Frankenberry and CountChocula are really pissed at this....
Absolutely, how much you want to bet that Peter Misek owns stock in RIM and started this plausible but bogus rumour to sell at a profit.
RIM specialize in corporate, wireless, proprietary, personal access. RIM the phone is bolted-on accessory.
APPLE specialize in personal, portable, proprietary, corporate access. MAC the HCI is bolted-on accessory.
Neither need each other. BUT... Apple has WebObjects which is underutilized in database access. AND... RIM have no platform to serve data to BlackBerry's.
RIM could re-invent their category integrating corporate data access by *Berry's via WebObject brokerage over 3G networks. That Jobs would be interested in leveraging his technology to be the broker to CorporateAmerica. RIM would have to give Apple and iTunes-like franchise for a fractional% of each transaction.
You can just see the high-school cheerleaders rolling their eyes. And the techie girls going "hmmmm... does it do video?"
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I'd rather have a cellphone with FEWER features.
But if you're going to put a battery sucking iPod in a phone... do it right.
I can't imagine how neat an Appleified treo with a wheel control grafted onto the back of it would be.
Not a treo...
I much preferred the Qualcomm PDQ to the treo. NORMAL cellphone dialing pad for cellphone stuff, and it flipped open to give you a regular Palm, not a trimmed down one with the graffiti area replaced by an unusably small keyboard.
Then you could put the Apple click wheel on the backside of the keypad, where it wouldn't be subject to random jittering in your pocket. Or even better, just control it with the cellphone keypad. 2 and 8 for volume up/down, 4 and 6 for back/skip, 5 for play/pause, 1 and 3 for jog-skip, and 7 and 9 for playlist prev/next.
Why? Because you have the PDA interface for the complex part of the user interface, there's no point in keeping the click wheel when you have a stylus... if you really want it bad enough, simulate it on the touch screen.
The treo keyboard is far from unusable for me, and I've got pretty fat fingers. It -looks- bad, I'll give you that, but it is in fact very functional.
I've used thumb keyboards... and not just on the Treo: I bought one for my Visor. What kills them for me is that they make me pay too much attention to the process. Yes, they're faster... even when I get going I can't graffiti as fast as I can thumb... but I can graffiti faster than I can write and I can do it without looking at the screen. And that more than makes up for the slight speed advantage of the Treo.
I actually prefer T9 (i think that's what it's called... predictive text entry) on a 3x4 keypad to the Treo's thumboard.
As for the click wheel, it's what's made the ipod so good.
I bought an iPod, and after a week I gave it to my daughter and bought an iPod Shuffle instead because it doesn't have a click wheel. Same problem... I can't use the click-wheel by feel, I have to look at the iPod. The Nintendo D-pad style on the iPod Shuffle is much better for anything but scrolling through huge playlists, and a stylus and text entry is even better for that.