I like how this is targeting the company's shareholders. This is a nice new path to letting a company know people don't like what they're doing instead of losing a few hundred dollars because a few geeks boycotted them.
(Having read the article...)
I don't agree with this instance though. What if all of the routers were running Linux? Should we have export regulations for Linux now?
Oh Wait, we already tried that with encryption. It didn't work.
I would love to see them trying to keep Linux away from the chinese...
I love how you use the same arguments for cookie control that are used for gun control.
Just like there are legitimate uses for guns, there are also useful to you (the site visitor) and them (the site creators). It allows them to make their site better. Just block the third party cookies (and set a 60 day time limit on the rest) to get rid of the bad cookies.
I wonder if I'll have any karma left after saying I don't support gun control...
Is it a new Windows distribution, when an OEM installs extra tools, such as IBM's laptop utilities? I think there's a tendancy to see division above and beyond where there actually is any, when it comes to Linux.
Changes in policy alone can made a distro seperate from its parent.
Personally, what I would like to see is a "standard source library", where versions of packages known to work together are collected together. That would simplify the work of binary package maintainers and provide a level of unification on the baseline WITHOUT imposing unification in the installation or the experience.
Agreed. I think a combination of Componentized Linux and AutoPackage would bring us several steps closer to that goal. Also, it's too bad that Fedora "Core" doesn't join in the effort.
I have long thought that we need a package and repository system for FOSS on windows also. Wouldn't it be great if you could just install apt-get for Windows and get all of the OSS goodness in one shot with automatic updates?:)
I would ALSO like to see package maintainers work together a bit better. I use a number of the RPM distros that make up the RPMForge collaboration, yet I do run into lots of incompatibility issues. This is not necessary and definitely not desirable.
I'm not familiar with RPMForge, I agree that there should be more consolidation when possible. Why do there need to be several incompatible repositories for Fedora Core? Why can not everyone converge around an at-rpms multi-step testing style instead of pushing out the current version as soon as the latest is released? I'm not even endorsing at-rpms itself, just that style and consolidating the repositories.
Why is there not a common repository project that supports all of the big RPM based distros (at least RHEL, Fedora, SUSE & Mandriva)? If nessisary use one SRPM and compile it against the various target distros, but maybe one rpm could cover them all (I'll let someone else inject the LOTR reference).
I think diversity for Linux is essential, but a software version of the Great Library of Alexandria would definitely help with not only maintaining those distributions efficiently but also make it easier for distros to be much more compatiable with each other.
Debian is already at the center of several distros, why not extend it over to the RPM world? Use Debian source packages and make RPMs out of them.:)
I don't, and none of my users do. They just want to click any attachment without fear. Linux delivers that, Windows doesn't.
Not true. They want the attachment to do what the email message said it would.
If they receive an executable attachment, even explaining why it won't execute from the mail client because of security doesn't get through to them. They want the contents of the file to use, be it a spreadsheet, word processing document, or the latest flash joke.
Not only does the system need to create an environment where *developers don't need to be administrator* and attachments can be sandboxed[1], then the typical user won't get what they want without being able to mess up something, even if that is limited to their user account.
Today, your typical windows user is limited to messing up the entire local machine, and corrupting any writable files on network shares (not counting exploits) -- if you want to call that limited. In Linux without selinix, you are limited to messing with your user account, and any writable network mounts.
In the Linux next release (the technology is available today, but not setup for this porpose by default) all child processes of thunderbird can be restricted to only "safe" functions.
In the future there should be a way to create somethink like a per process unionfs. That way, the program can think it has full access to everything, but those changes are actually kept in a seperate location instead of changing the origional.
1. Basically allowing the attached executable to create a GUI and play sounds.
Make sure you disable the "Would you like to grant access to these files in the future?" option and add a 10 second delay before the user can continue running that app.
You want it to annoy the people enough so that you hear about it instead of a one time prompt that leavs them vulnerable to a virus with the same name coming along later.
It is much easier to update the policy than monitoring each users ignore list.
Games got me started in learning about computers only because my PC was ass slow.
Imagine 8086 8Mhz when the generation was a 486 50Mhz.
I learned all about why I couldn't play the games I wanted, and used the older ones and tried tuning my system to run them better.
Get on the net and IRC, hear about Linux and install it on the (now old) 486 DX4 100 after building my first system (K6-2 350). Those were the days when you had to know your hardware and know which modules to load. =)
Hehe, now I use knoppix for hardware testing and detection. The reversal is sweet.
To get back on topic, if I had the latest system, I might not have had the initial push I needed to start learning the internal workings of a computer.
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No, it doesn't.
I have one at work that I need to test before it is listed on ebay.
Check out their web site or reply if you're interested.
So, it's only bad if they charge for it?
HTML isn't hard to learn. If your friend couldn't learn it quickly, then I think that reflects on your friend.
Now, design is another thing completely. That takes a skill that is not wholly scientific.
Don't worry, he just hasn't realized SkyNet is transforming before his eyes.
n/t
We have a duty, through government...
Why does it have to be from the government?
I like how this is targeting the company's shareholders. This is a nice new path to letting a company know people don't like what they're doing instead of losing a few hundred dollars because a few geeks boycotted them.
(Having read the article...)
I don't agree with this instance though. What if all of the routers were running Linux? Should we have export regulations for Linux now?
Oh Wait, we already tried that with encryption. It didn't work.
I would love to see them trying to keep Linux away from the chinese...
Ahh, but there just has to be something left about the mac that is technically better.
Here's to hoping they use OpenBoot or OpenFirmware.
That may not be a good analogy.
Some consider their parents to be PHBs.
Yes.
Per minute.
I love how you use the same arguments for cookie control that are used for gun control.
Just like there are legitimate uses for guns, there are also useful to you (the site visitor) and them (the site creators). It allows them to make their site better. Just block the third party cookies (and set a 60 day time limit on the rest) to get rid of the bad cookies.
I wonder if I'll have any karma left after saying I don't support gun control...
It seems like your seams are coming undone, Miss Portman.
And monitoring the relays doesn't work because...?
Isn't USB just SCSI commands over a different physical transport?
Is it a new Windows distribution, when an OEM installs extra tools, such as IBM's laptop utilities? I think there's a tendancy to see division above and beyond where there actually is any, when it comes to Linux.
:)
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Changes in policy alone can made a distro seperate from its parent.
Personally, what I would like to see is a "standard source library", where versions of packages known to work together are collected together. That would simplify the work of binary package maintainers and provide a level of unification on the baseline WITHOUT imposing unification in the installation or the experience.
Agreed. I think a combination of Componentized Linux and AutoPackage would bring us several steps closer to that goal. Also, it's too bad that Fedora "Core" doesn't join in the effort.
I have long thought that we need a package and repository system for FOSS on windows also. Wouldn't it be great if you could just install apt-get for Windows and get all of the OSS goodness in one shot with automatic updates?
I would ALSO like to see package maintainers work together a bit better. I use a number of the RPM distros that make up the RPMForge collaboration, yet I do run into lots of incompatibility issues. This is not necessary and definitely not desirable.
I'm not familiar with RPMForge, I agree that there should be more consolidation when possible. Why do there need to be several incompatible repositories for Fedora Core? Why can not everyone converge around an at-rpms multi-step testing style instead of pushing out the current version as soon as the latest is released? I'm not even endorsing at-rpms itself, just that style and consolidating the repositories.
Why is there not a common repository project that supports all of the big RPM based distros (at least RHEL, Fedora, SUSE & Mandriva)? If nessisary use one SRPM and compile it against the various target distros, but maybe one rpm could cover them all (I'll let someone else inject the LOTR reference).
I think diversity for Linux is essential, but a software version of the Great Library of Alexandria would definitely help with not only maintaining those distributions efficiently but also make it easier for distros to be much more compatiable with each other.
Debian is already at the center of several distros, why not extend it over to the RPM world? Use Debian source packages and make RPMs out of them.
I like this.
How do you think the authentication should work?
Why not improve the download rating, and direct the users to download.com or somesuch site or do they wrap all of their downloads with adware?
In a word...
Yes!
And so am I. Please enlighten us as to why people hate ARM now.
I don't, and none of my users do. They just want to click any attachment without fear. Linux delivers that, Windows doesn't.
Not true. They want the attachment to do what the email message said it would.
If they receive an executable attachment, even explaining why it won't execute from the mail client because of security doesn't get through to them. They want the contents of the file to use, be it a spreadsheet, word processing document, or the latest flash joke.
Not only does the system need to create an environment where *developers don't need to be administrator* and attachments can be sandboxed[1], then the typical user won't get what they want without being able to mess up something, even if that is limited to their user account.
Today, your typical windows user is limited to messing up the entire local machine, and corrupting any writable files on network shares (not counting exploits) -- if you want to call that limited. In Linux without selinix, you are limited to messing with your user account, and any writable network mounts.
In the Linux next release (the technology is available today, but not setup for this porpose by default) all child processes of thunderbird can be restricted to only "safe" functions.
In the future there should be a way to create somethink like a per process unionfs. That way, the program can think it has full access to everything, but those changes are actually kept in a seperate location instead of changing the origional.
1. Basically allowing the attached executable to create a GUI and play sounds.
You can have all of the warnings you want, but your average "user friendly" distro will not keep a user from infecting their account.
And let's face it; on the desktop, there usually *is only one account*.
That's good as rooting the box to the user if it messes with their data. Oh, and no backups of course.
Make sure you disable the "Would you like to grant access to these files in the future?" option and add a 10 second delay before the user can continue running that app.
You want it to annoy the people enough so that you hear about it instead of a one time prompt that leavs them vulnerable to a virus with the same name coming along later.
It is much easier to update the policy than monitoring each users ignore list.
Agreed.
Games got me started in learning about computers only because my PC was ass slow.
Imagine 8086 8Mhz when the generation was a 486 50Mhz.
I learned all about why I couldn't play the games I wanted, and used the older ones and tried tuning my system to run them better.
Get on the net and IRC, hear about Linux and install it on the (now old) 486 DX4 100 after building my first system (K6-2 350). Those were the days when you had to know your hardware and know which modules to load. =)
Hehe, now I use knoppix for hardware testing and detection. The reversal is sweet.
To get back on topic, if I had the latest system, I might not have had the initial push I needed to start learning the internal workings of a computer.
IOW, you work in a mid/large corp that has implemented "role based privelege management".
In smaller shops, the SA would be doing the installs for everything.
Named pipes and /dev/ttySXX are standard features on any unix OS, including Linux. Can you be more specific?
pretty soon landfills will be mostly diapers and printers.
Are you kidding me?
I recently started working in the recycling business, and found that the landfills are one of our compettitors.
Why let it sit there when you can make money off of the parts, metals and materials?
Are you talking about the religion or some other definition of "scientology"?