I'm a long time Debian user and just tried Ubuntu 5.10 a couple days ago and one thing that ticked me about Firefox on Linux was that middle-clicking on a tab would paste instead of close the tab.
Debian, Fedora and anyone else, please do what Ubuntu did to Firefox!
Your local Programming, Linux/BSD/Unix User groups. Find the coordinator of each organization and ask them what the acceptable way to post a job listing, or just send a message to a few mailing list members directly. If they are not able to help you, they will probably know someone good to refer to you.
Look for consultancy shops that work on open source. You can see what skills they have and what projects they work on and judge them by their contributions to the OSS projects they work on. When you contact them, be sure tell them you are looking for employees. This will leave you with the single man consultants that might be willing to start an employment relationship with you. Start with people who already know the OSS projects you use in house, then branch out to people who know the distro(s) you use in house.
When you buy the SBS product from MS, the OS, SQL, Exchange, and numerous other apps are shipping in the shrinkwrap. It's on multiple CDs because that's too much stuff to put on a single CD. The install, though, is customized to do the whole thing as one process.
Did they compare SBS with any Linux distro? No. They compared the base Windows OS with a full Linux Distro.
Of course you're not going to find something with SQL Server's horsepower bundled in with any of the distros you mentioned. There's a reason that MySQL isn't generally compared to MS SQL or Oracle, etc. They're not in the same class.
I don't think you'll find something as ready-to-go as SharePoint, either - all of those things come with significant support resources, multi-language material, etc. Exchange alone (with the full OWA) is a beefy install. I don't think that this discussion is really about how many disks the install spans, is it?
It has crossed my mind a couple times recently why we haven't seen buffer overflow attacks against word an excel.
Many people know it crashes with large files, it can also probably be exploited as well.
Even a two pronged attack of a word file with pretty girls and a small image with a buffer overflow attack. That in addition to another attack in the word formatting itself. Many will forward it because of the girls and have no idea that they are spreading a virus.
Or even better, a web site that exploits IE, Word & Excel!
OpenOffice.org, Firefox and Thunderbird or be own3d!
[...]rather than the erratic behaviour we've seen with Linux on SMP Intel hardware. The 2.6.x Linux kernel has also been a serious disappointment in terms of reliability, a definite step back from 2.4.x.
I'd like more details on your workload. What are you running, how much memory do you have and what kernel versions from what distro? Did you try a NUMA enabled kernel on the opteron systems? What simptoms did you see?
Which is great, because in my experience gcc has a bad backend on Solaris. When I compile with cc instead of gcc, I often see a 30-50% reduction in process execution turnaround time, while using less CPU too!
Anyone who compares two apps on sparc-solaris and x86-linux should really keep this in mind...
Not to mention that most of the base libraries are completely different in Solaris and Linux, at the very least libc is different.
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It took even longer on a p4 2.8.
I'm running Firefox 1.5 RC3 on XP SP2
is "IE" the shortented version of the screaming sound that I make when I realize my machine has been compromized?
"iiiieeeeEEEEEEEEE!"
Did anyone else immediately think of the Yahoo yodel when they read that?
YahhhhooooOOOOO
I'm a long time Debian user and just tried Ubuntu 5.10 a couple days ago and one thing that ticked me about Firefox on Linux was that middle-clicking on a tab would paste instead of close the tab.
Debian, Fedora and anyone else, please do what Ubuntu did to Firefox!
How long before its cheap enough to not just be about making people in Florida feel more comfortable living in a swamp?
After the patent expires of course.
No, I think Taco took some classes in Government.
"How to keep the teeming masses busy."
No, I think he meant "Burning Man".
You want IT employees that frequent best buy and circuit city?
I say HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I don't get why more Unix skilled employee seeking employers don't mine the local Linux, BSD and Unix user groups.
You can even read their list archives to judge candidates before contacting them.
Too bad they're not named Microdot...
I'd also include time
Yes, but include time over 3 years. Including cleaning viruses and etc from the windows machines.
Initial time spent is usually longer with Unix/Linux/BSD but time spent on maintenance is much less.
Your local Programming, Linux/BSD/Unix User groups. Find the coordinator of each organization and ask them what the acceptable way to post a job listing, or just send a message to a few mailing list members directly. If they are not able to help you, they will probably know someone good to refer to you.
Look for consultancy shops that work on open source. You can see what skills they have and what projects they work on and judge them by their contributions to the OSS projects they work on. When you contact them, be sure tell them you are looking for employees. This will leave you with the single man consultants that might be willing to start an employment relationship with you. Start with people who already know the OSS projects you use in house, then branch out to people who know the distro(s) you use in house.
Maybe there is an old version of debian that is still being patched?
Nope, Debian only supports one version back.
And isn't SUSE 8 a bit long in the tooth anyway?
From what I can see, SUSE 8 was released in 2002, which makes it newer than win2k.
Did they compare SBS with any Linux distro? No. They compared the base Windows OS with a full Linux Distro.
Of course you're not going to find something with SQL Server's horsepower bundled in with any of the distros you mentioned. There's a reason that MySQL isn't generally compared to MS SQL or Oracle, etc. They're not in the same class.
PostgreSQL, Firebird, SAP & Ingres.
I don't think you'll find something as ready-to-go as SharePoint, either - all of those things come with significant support resources, multi-language material, etc. Exchange alone (with the full OWA) is a beefy install. I don't think that this discussion is really about how many disks the install spans, is it?
Take your pick:
Guy walks into a bar. Bartender says, "What is this, some kind of a joke?"
"I thought this was hilarious. I repeated it to two of my coworkers and got blank looks."
You need to sleep more.
Yeah those crack heads are funny. Watch a few one day and you'll see.
It has crossed my mind a couple times recently why we haven't seen buffer overflow attacks against word an excel.
Many people know it crashes with large files, it can also probably be exploited as well.
Even a two pronged attack of a word file with pretty girls and a small image with a buffer overflow attack. That in addition to another attack in the word formatting itself. Many will forward it because of the girls and have no idea that they are spreading a virus.
Or even better, a web site that exploits IE, Word & Excel!
OpenOffice.org, Firefox and Thunderbird or be own3d!
Time for an exokernel already!
I think these guys can help you with that.
now, lets see if I can get my girl to pose with a penguin beak ;)
Naw, she'd just need a black suit jacket, and not much else.
[...]rather than the erratic behaviour we've seen with Linux on SMP Intel hardware. The 2.6.x Linux kernel has also been a serious disappointment in terms of reliability, a definite step back from 2.4.x.
I'd like more details on your workload. What are you running, how much memory do you have and what kernel versions from what distro? Did you try a NUMA enabled kernel on the opteron systems? What simptoms did you see?
Which is great, because in my experience gcc has a bad backend on Solaris. When I compile with cc instead of gcc, I often see a 30-50% reduction in process execution turnaround time, while using less CPU too!
Anyone who compares two apps on sparc-solaris and x86-linux should really keep this in mind...
Not to mention that most of the base libraries are completely different in Solaris and Linux, at the very least libc is different.
Actually, their premium 24x7 support is $360 per socket (not core).
Whew, you had me worried for a minute. At least that's only per minute and not per core.
You can alwasy tell by build date...
How does the update work with a restricted account?
Does it only update when you login as admin?
Attempting to update and failing in a restricted account would not show firefox in the best light.
This is like deciding to run Cat3 in your house, instead of 5e or 6, because you've currently only got a 100Mbit hub.
Unless you are using all 4 pair, you are stuck at 10Mbps.