> Although a vulnerability is generally mis-use by someone other than the owner of that piece of software, I'd still have to conclude it's not a bug
So if you would write e.g. an FTP-server and user would setup that anonymous users have no write permission (read only). And then someone would as anonymous user send invalid command, which would cause a buffer overflow and corrupt the whole file system. You would not consider that a bug, because someone had just misused it by using a non-standard command?
Compared to what? When blind fold tests are done to the people, they rarely know the difference between their favorite brand and any other cheap random brand. Often the cheap brand wins.
> 2. Nike makes really good products.
Again, would you really know the difference if logos would be removed?
> I'm sure that there are people out there that are complete sheep... but there are a lot that aren't.
If you ask a sheep whether he/she is a sheep, do you really think they would know that they are? Are you sure you really like the products or are you perhaps just a perfect example of a person who thinks what marketers what people to think.
> There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of creation myths out there
Indeed, in Finnish mythology kalled Kalevala, the world was born from an egg of a bird. I don't know any Finnish person who would still bulieve in this story, but obviously they should teach this theory in US schools.
> Maybe use all those open source network analysis tools
That is a very good method. Except if the spyware is very intelligent. E.g. submit the stolen data in encypted format only when person is doing the upgrade progress. E.g. add the crypted data in POST or GET requests which are used to download the new version. One would have to be very suspicios to suspect that.
> I'm sure you audited the Firefox source code personally? Right
I did have a look at it yes. But more importantly thousands of others have looked at it also. And even more importantly everyone is able to do so if they will. Even the possibility that anyone could find the spyware you try to hide in the code makes you think twice before even trying it.
I have by the way audited the source code for several Firefox extensions and several other open source software. I've even found unlikely-to-happen memory errors while doing that (reported and fixed) which would have not probably been found in any other way except by reading the source code.
I write and use open source software more many reasons. Security is only one of them. I bulieve that all programs have problems but in open source they are more likely to be found than in other software.
> You managed to dismiss religious faith as "mythology"
"The word mythology refers to a body of folklore/myths/legends that a particular culture believes to be true and that often use the supernatural to interpret natural events and to explain the nature of the universe and humanity." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology
Mythology sounds a lot like a synonym to religion to me.
> and "stone age views"
"the term 'Stone Age' increasingly obsolete. We now know that the changes in past societies over the millennia were complex and involved multiple factors such as the adoption of agriculture, settlement or religion" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_age
Sounds like religion was one of the views in stone age already.
> and equate moral criticism of homosexuality with irrational phobias
Without rational scientific facts, the criticism is irrational. I have not seen any rational facts, have you?
There are 3 flaws in in: - It is not cross platform. - It can't be compiled using open source compilers (e.g. mingw), not even on Windows. - Obvious bugs are often rejected without a reason. I have no problem if a bug is rejected for a good reason. I won't even mind if the developer says, "you fix it". But just closing several bugs without a reason is just mean.
Should the first two be fixed, I would take part of it's development also. Should the 3rd one be fixed, I would try try push it as a default editor in my company.
As in open source software anyone can usually get the latest snapshot of the application, I think the following describes better the different stages:
alpha - Doesn't have all the features the final version is expected to have. beta - Feature complite but has bugs which must be fixed before release version. release candidate - If nothing serious is found, this will be the same as final release
On the Munich site they are going to move 14000 computers from Windows to Linux and they currently have: 1000 work stations migrated to LiMux 6000 work stations using OpenOffice.org 90% work stations using Firefox and Thunderbird
And in addition of using open source software, they have also written some (OOo plugin) of their own and released it as open source.
Most people probably noticed that the summary has two links. One to the latest news and one to a year old event. The actual event happened May 22rd, 2008, so the story is only a few days old.
> Are you kidding? Arms races are the reason we have (relatively) easily accessible and affordable flight to most parts of the world
We could have had the same technology without wars a lot cheaper. In war we basicly hire some scientists to work with a problem and we use e.g. 1% of less of the resources to this. And 99% of the resources to build machines that will be destroyed very soon on purpose. And in addition we kill educated people who could instead of dieing do someting usefull.
If instead we would just educate and hire a lot of scientist and inventors to investigate and research some areas and then donate all their findings to the public domain, we would get much more done with less money.
Arm race itself usually indicates that there are two groups figting against each other and not sharing the information.
> If so, does one of the paths of the investigation involve the police or a lawsuit option?
I hope not. Being afraid of making mistakes is a very efficient method for stopping progress. I bulieve that the people up there have enough pressures already, considering how many users they are serving. I bulieve it was a mistake that could have been made by anyone. It is always easy to notice the bug after someone points it out.
Because Wine is not an emulator, it is faster and uses less memory than emulators.
How well do 3d games work with emulators?
If you run Windows on a virtual machine, you will still need Windows for that. With wine you don't.
But obviously you are free to use what ever you like and what works best for you. As wine is not ready, it is not a perfect solution, even it does have some advantages for the applications that work with it.
Solution: Global government co-operation and government funded drug research. This way you don't have to use that much money for the adverticing either.
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> Although a vulnerability is generally mis-use by someone other than the owner of that piece of software, I'd still have to conclude it's not a bug
So if you would write e.g. an FTP-server and user would setup that anonymous users have no write permission (read only). And then someone would as anonymous user send invalid command, which would cause a buffer overflow and corrupt the whole file system. You would not consider that a bug, because someone had just misused it by using a non-standard command?
> 1. Coca-Cola freaking tastes really good
Compared to what? When blind fold tests are done to the people, they rarely know the difference between their favorite brand and any other cheap random brand. Often the cheap brand wins.
> 2. Nike makes really good products.
Again, would you really know the difference if logos would be removed?
> I'm sure that there are people out there that are complete sheep... but there are a lot that aren't.
If you ask a sheep whether he/she is a sheep, do you really think they would know that they are? Are you sure you really like the products or are you perhaps just a perfect example of a person who thinks what marketers what people to think.
> There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of creation myths out there
Indeed, in Finnish mythology kalled Kalevala, the world was born from an egg of a bird. I don't know any Finnish person who would still bulieve in this story, but obviously they should teach this theory in US schools.
> and how would you distribute closed-source PHP code anyway?
Inside a hardware as part of the software that make the hardware work as it should.
It would help Microsoft also if people would use only the latest version of IE.
> Maybe use all those open source network analysis tools
That is a very good method. Except if the spyware is very intelligent. E.g. submit the stolen data in encypted format only when person is doing the upgrade progress. E.g. add the crypted data in POST or GET requests which are used to download the new version. One would have to be very suspicios to suspect that.
> I'm sure you audited the Firefox source code personally? Right
I did have a look at it yes. But more importantly thousands of others have looked at it also. And even more importantly everyone is able to do so if they will. Even the possibility that anyone could find the spyware you try to hide in the code makes you think twice before even trying it.
I have by the way audited the source code for several Firefox extensions and several other open source software. I've even found unlikely-to-happen memory errors while doing that (reported and fixed) which would have not probably been found in any other way except by reading the source code.
I write and use open source software more many reasons. Security is only one of them. I bulieve that all programs have problems but in open source they are more likely to be found than in other software.
> Opera doesn't have built-in spyware!
How do you know? Have you seen the source code?
I doubt that it would have. But really, how can you know without seeing the source? That is why I prefer open source.
> You managed to dismiss religious faith as "mythology"
"The word mythology refers to a body of folklore/myths/legends that a particular culture believes to be true and that often use the supernatural to interpret natural events and to explain the nature of the universe and humanity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology
Mythology sounds a lot like a synonym to religion to me.
> and "stone age views"
"the term 'Stone Age' increasingly obsolete. We now know that the changes in past societies over the millennia were complex and involved multiple factors such as the adoption of agriculture, settlement or religion"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_age
Sounds like religion was one of the views in stone age already.
> and equate moral criticism of homosexuality with irrational phobias
Without rational scientific facts, the criticism is irrational. I have not seen any rational facts, have you?
There are 3 flaws in in:
- It is not cross platform.
- It can't be compiled using open source compilers (e.g. mingw), not even on Windows.
- Obvious bugs are often rejected without a reason. I have no problem if a bug is rejected for a good reason. I won't even mind if the developer says, "you fix it". But just closing several bugs without a reason is just mean.
Should the first two be fixed, I would take part of it's development also. Should the 3rd one be fixed, I would try try push it as a default editor in my company.
> All bush did was speed up the process
That is a very nice way to say "he doubled the national debt within few years".
As in open source software anyone can usually get the latest snapshot of the application, I think the following describes better the different stages:
alpha - Doesn't have all the features the final version is expected to have.
beta - Feature complite but has bugs which must be fixed before release version.
release candidate - If nothing serious is found, this will be the same as final release
Office is the cash cow to Microsoft. Kill the cow and Microsoft has less money to be spend on fighting Google.
> I wish Slashdot editors could be real editors, and check their work.
We will see a black female president who supports communism and is a Debian core developer, before that happens.
On the Munich site they are going to move 14000 computers from Windows to Linux and they currently have:
1000 work stations migrated to LiMux
6000 work stations using OpenOffice.org
90% work stations using Firefox and Thunderbird
And in addition of using open source software, they have also written some (OOo plugin) of their own and released it as open source.
Most people probably noticed that the summary has two links. One to the latest news and one to a year old event. The actual event happened May 22rd, 2008, so the story is only a few days old.
Microsoft did.
There is already a browser for backwards compatibility. It didn't work out that well, that is why we have Firefox.
> Are you kidding? Arms races are the reason we have (relatively) easily accessible and affordable flight to most parts of the world
We could have had the same technology without wars a lot cheaper. In war we basicly hire some scientists to work with a problem and we use e.g. 1% of less of the resources to this. And 99% of the resources to build machines that will be destroyed very soon on purpose. And in addition we kill educated people who could instead of dieing do someting usefull.
If instead we would just educate and hire a lot of scientist and inventors to investigate and research some areas and then donate all their findings to the public domain, we would get much more done with less money.
Arm race itself usually indicates that there are two groups figting against each other and not sharing the information.
"Everyone benefits! Now a search engine will have a better idea of what's in those images."
What search engine? Is the information I provide to them free for anyone to use, or is it just for them?
> If so, does one of the paths of the investigation involve the police or a lawsuit option?
I hope not. Being afraid of making mistakes is a very efficient method for stopping progress. I bulieve that the people up there have enough pressures already, considering how many users they are serving. I bulieve it was a mistake that could have been made by anyone. It is always easy to notice the bug after someone points it out.
And as wikipedia says: "but as a lot of work still needs to be done[7], no firm date has yet been given on the Moonlight website."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)#cite_note-status-6
Wine is not an emulator.
Because Wine is not an emulator, it is faster and uses less memory than emulators.
How well do 3d games work with emulators?
If you run Windows on a virtual machine, you will still need Windows for that. With wine you don't.
But obviously you are free to use what ever you like and what works best for you. As wine is not ready, it is not a perfect solution, even it does have some advantages for the applications that work with it.
Solution: Global government co-operation and government funded drug research. This way you don't have to use that much money for the adverticing either.
There is actually plenty of _space_ left. Do you really think we will all be living on this planet after 50 years?