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Firefox Download Day To Start At 1 p.m. EST
boustrophedon writes "Starting at midnight in their local timezones, downloaders have been asking when Firefox 3 will be ready for Firefox Download Day, June 17, 2008. Mary announced on the Spread Firefox Forum that downloads will commence at 10 AM PST." That means 1 p.m. East Coast time, and, in Justin Mason's view, some pretty annoying times of day for many parts of the world.
Reader CorinneI supplies a link to PC Magazine's (very positive) overview of the new version's features, which praises the "speedy performance, thrifty memory usage, and, in particular, the address bar that now predicts where you want to go when you start typing (what Mozilla insiders refer to as the Awesome Bar)." FF3, even in Beta and RC form, and even with the extension incompatibilities I've run into, has quickly replaced FF2 as my preferred browser — for me, the improved drop-down autocomplete behavior alone is enough to justify the switch.
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will this automatically update in my linux distro?
be downloading FF!
IE 5 is good enough for me!
You can get it already: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US well, at least the windows, us-en version.
I will be happy if they have controls... to enable and disable the color profile management.
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Why's he moaning about what time it starts at when people have a whole twenty-four hours to find a suitable time to download the thing? It's not like we all have to sprint to our computers and start it on the minute.
yum install firefox
Rack up a few hits on their server. On a serious note, I wonder if the more streamlined distribution process of Linux has anything to do with the lack of perceived demand? Probably not, as only major projects are in the repository but it's a thought.
I've been using FF3 for a while as my main browser, BUT hasn't the "awesome bar" basically been a feature of Safari since... like forever?
I thought we were in Daylight Saving Time until November?
I'll create an amusing sig when I have something meaningful to post.
Is 1pm EST, 12 PM EDT? Which is what most of the east coast of the US is on? Current Time
I've been using the RC releases, and while I do like the new browser, the memory footprint is still a monster. Currently, it's using over 175MB of ram for the windows I have open (21 different pages) - and that seems excessive to me.
The new address bar - it's different, but I hadn't noticed that it's any better or worse than FF2.
However, I've run into no lockups, which I did often with FF2. The browser seems a bit more responsive as well. Overall, it's definitely an improvement and pretty much a required upgrade for those using FF2, since it improves on FF2 and doesn't seem to introduce any unwanted features, except perhaps the handling of bookmarks.
It's a cruel and senseless waste of binary.
Here is how to get more or less the old behavior. Go to about:config and set browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped to true and browser.urlbar.richResults to false. Then restart.
Anyone else experiencing record packet loss and routing issues? On an AT&T MPLS here, and can't get anywhere. Getting rerouted all over the US... Can this be attributed to Firefox day?
If at first you don't succeed... How does that go again? Ah, forget it.
For those who still don't know, Mozilla is trying to enter GUINNESS
for most software downloads in a 24-hour period. Check it here:
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/worldrecord/
Everybody is asked to participate by downloading one single copy of
Firefox 3.0 today, June 17th!
ONLY FULL DOWNLOADS ARE CONSIDERED!
So, go to the Firefox site and get one FULL COPY!
http://www.getfirefox.com/
If I clone myself, can I call it a thread?
If a girl winks to us, can I call it a race condition?
When I go to the site I get:
The connection was reset
The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
And this was with FF 2.0.0.14, so they can't blame my client.
Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle, and quick to anger.
What's that in European? I can't calculate in US Dollars...
I hope they got their ducks in line 'cuz they are ASKING for a /.ing.
Obama's legacy: (N)othing (S)ecure (A)nywhere and (T)error (S)imulation (A)dministration
It is clearly the superior browser.
(kidding, people)
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB
I guess I know now to wait until midnight to ask the question. How silly of me it was to have asked early.
Oh BTW you can't download until 17:00 UTC ...
[later this week]
HawaiiDude: I just can't figure out why we didn't have more Firefox downloads. I mean, we gave people ALL DAY to get it!
For those of us who don't like how the "awesomebar" looks by default, remember that the oldbar extension can save you from becoming insane.
When Adblock releases a version that works for it.
The greatest revenge in life is massive success.
Will my FF 2.0.0.14 automatically get updated to FF 3?
Love me or leave me. Hey, where's everybody going?
Otherwise all this hype will not convince corps to switch.
Why MSI?
-it's a corp standard.(STD switches, behavior)
-It's customizable without changing the original package
-It is designed from the ground up to run unattended or silent regardless if it's an upgrade or a new install.
And Frontmotion (www.frontmotion.com/) != Mozilla
It's a trust issue. Corps want "warm and fuzzies" and not what they will view as a hack.
If Mozilla doesn't want to make an MSI package but still wants to entice the Corps to switch, host Frontmotion's MSI from the Mozilla site.
Having GPO support or preinstalled Addons are gravy at this point.
Obama's legacy: (N)othing (S)ecure (A)nywhere and (T)error (S)imulation (A)dministration
For those for which the universe does not revolve around the USA, EST = GMT -5. Therefore the firefox download "day" would start at 6:00pm in Great Britain.
Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
Mozilla's FTP is overloaded, but the 3.0 (non-RC) download was available as early as 7am Mountain today. You can hit it from a mirror via: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US (change os=linux or os=osx if required).
Is it me, or does Firefox 3 not keep your old cookies and passwords etc? I seem to have to relogin to every website.
Memory handling doesn't seem to be much better - it's up to 220Mb already and I've only been using it 10 minutes. It's definitely faster though! The javascript engine seems WAY quicker on my own sites at least.
See http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php
1. Why did this not start on GMT so it was the 17th for the whole world at the normal time. 2. Why was it so hard to find a Mozillia definition of the 17th ;-)
Smart guys and gals could have made this simpler.
Google Sync though, it made it easy to keep all my systems in umm... sync.
Si vis pacem, para bellum! For evil to succeed good men need only do nothing!
How will FF 3.0 behave ?
Will it leave version 2.x on the system or will it remove it ?
I'd like to make privacy checks first before I use it as default browser on my system.
In FF2 I had to reconfigure file access for cookies and access to RSS feed images (which are loaded from typical ad providers). I had to remove support for dom.storage.enabled and network.http.sendRefererHeader
I'm interested into such privacy related things before I install it.
Anyone ?
Is it possible to install Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 simultaneously? I would like to retain an old working version that I'm comfortable with for one thing. Is it possible to have separate cookies, sessions, etc? Maybe I would have FF2 locked down and FF3 with flash installed. Is this possible? I like having multiple browsers.
it hasn't been released for firefox 3 has it? when will it?
Why do slashdot use obscure timezones like PST EST XST when there is a standard UTC?
I am in the same position, especially because I like developing web content using Firebug. I have no idea if Firebug will still work with FF3, so I was hoping to keep FF2 around long enough to find out.
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=af
So what's EST in Olde English??
in FF3 released version; slashdot being JavaScript powered as it is.
Expect the "omg! phirst!!1one!1!" people to be quicker off the mark.
throw new NoSignatureException();
Ad block and no script are the only addons functioning.
and while I like many parts of this new release I know a few others who have already renamed "awesome bar" into "annoying bar"
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
Why? Because I'm just that kind of bastard.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
For those who aren't fans of the Awful Bar, there is an add-on to bring back the old bar.
www.timcoleman.com is a total waste of your time. Never go there.
See this empirical ff3 memory usage study on linux for ... kind of confirms your feelings.
http://www.mininglabs.com/2008/06/16/firefox-3-an-empirical-performance-study/
Even the Firefox world record page doesn't specify the start time, much less whether it's PDT or PST. Do they think we have nothing better to do than refresh their pages, wondering which page we should be looking at?
Simply autonavigate to quality free porn sites...DONE!
Firefox just got a lot of supporters very PISSED OFF because they announce something like "World" Download Day, and donÂt even know how to use UTC (Universal Time, Coordinated). So sorry, but know I started to think that you are a bunch of morons that think your local time is suitable for a World Download Day. Why donÂt you choose, USA Download Day?
As you can see, IÂm REALLY REALLY REALLY disapointed with you Mozilla guys.
Ps.: Last time I checked, USA had ONLY 210k subscriptions from 1.740k. That is, only 12% of subscriptions understand that time format. The others 88% doesnÂt really matter.
1 PM EST time means 17:00 GMT.
Come on, Slashdot, this is supposed to be an international event ! The biggest slashdoting ever, you could try harder to synchronize !
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
Yes it does!
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/2438
Check your Official Firefox Release local time here:
http://tinyurl.com/4e7fv5
If I clone myself, can I call it a thread?
If a girl winks to us, can I call it a race condition?
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't any starting time going to be a pretty annoying time of day for many parts of the world? Or is there some time of day which is convenient for everyone?
It's Beer O'Clock, time to download Firefox!
Chelloveck
I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
It is kind of interesting how torrent sites like Isohunt are trying to offset some of the demand on servers that are hosting firefox, but really are screwing over the record attempt....
Orbis terrarum est non altus satis
Windows -> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe OSX -> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/mac/en-US/Firefox%203.0.dmg
I am a Firefox user, but it absolutely _astounds_ me that the devs still can't manage to make their browser work well with Adobe's PDF plugin in Windows. In this day and age, trying to open a PDF should not take 30 seconds - 1 min to render, and even if it does it also shouldn't freeze the rest of the browser up.
I have had to go into my task manage and kill the Acrobat plugin in order to save my browser session many times. This problem has been present in Firefox all the way back to its Netscape days, and on every computer and installation of Adobe I've ever used. It has never been present in IE.
How is it that even with PDF becoming an ISO standard, the dev team _still_ can't make their browser play nice with Acrobat?
---- I'll take you in a Hunt deathmatch any day.
These days a lot of pages are dynamically generated or have long and cryptc URLs that provide no info about what you are trying to access. I enjoy being able to type up one or two key words and get relevant matches. I already know the shortcut to start typing in the URL bar and use it more frequently than my bookmarks since it's the quickest way to get to a site when I don't want to take my hands off the keyboard.
Twinstiq, game news
Opera 9.5 is out for OSX! When will you flaming foxes get the hint?
This is ridiculous. Waiting for whatever hour to download the new Firefox is like camping out in front of the store and waiting in line all night to buy a Playstation the first minute it appears on a shelf, or worse yet, paying out the nose for one on eBay when all you have to do is wait a few weeks and get one at retail price without all this nonsense. Why bombard the server to download it at the first moment of its availability? Like I said, totally ridiculous, and I'm not saying this to start a flame war.
McCain/Palin '08. Now THAT's hope and change!
Oh come off your high horse. How many people do you think will read this thread the 2 hours between when it was posted and when FF3 is officially released? Compare that to the number of people who will have FF2 auto-update to FF3.
Way to try to spoil the fun for a bunch of people though.
Can't they schedule their servers to start the download day at 00:00 UTC and make it more neutral and easier to everyone?
Anyone know why firefox.com is redirecting to http://www.mozilla-europe.org/ru/products/firefox?
Exactly, am I supposed to convert from EST or EDT? Why can't they just give us zulu time and let us all work out our own offsets.
All i want to do is download FF3 and be on internet nirvana. Why, Why, why do I have to wait till 10:00 A.M. PST. ---- Why is my name Florida, thats the name of a state
Then you can pick it up about a month ago.
Having Yahoo email, hotmail, and Pandora open, as well as one other tab for various browsing, would regularly net my memory usage to 270 - 400 MB of RAM. With FF3 RC, my memory usage with the same pages is 130 - 160 MB. That's a WORLD of difference. It's significantly faster, too.
Your point makes perfect sense so long as your browser is the ONLY application you run! Imagine if EVERY application munched RAM as much as firefox...
I think the point that people are annoyed about is that there are other fast browsers out there which DON'T eat all your RAM, so why does firefox need to?
Regarding your last sentence - yes, it would be nice if programs would all try and use RAM if there's loads free, but free it up again as soon as anything else needed it... For that you'd need some kind of "low priority" indicator when you reserved that RAM - indicating it's only a cache of something and should be paged out first if it's needed by another app.
So, please don't install 30-50 copies of FF 3 at the same time on your friend's internet cafe machines (if you want to keep your friend). If you need to do that then turn off (for a while) the anti-phishing protection via the Tools->Options->Security tab
Andy
Am I just being picky, or is it a bit dumb that they didn't make it available for download at 2008-06-17 00:00 ?
For anyone outside the US, we have to wait most of the day before being about to download. Personally, I'm going to leave it a few days in protest at such nonsense.
I had a HUGE video issue with the RC. In Firefox 2 with all of the latest updates, video (youtube, comedy central, gametrailers, etc.) ran smoothly and perfectly. With Firefox 3 RC, however, ALL videos stuttered horribly, and pages would frequently hang.
My system:
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev 1.0 with F4 Bios
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+
4 gigs Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 RAM
ATI HD3200 On-Board video card
3 500 gig Maxtor SATAII hard drives, two of which are in a 1 TB raid
As you can see, my system (while not top of the line by any stretch of the imagination) has more than enough power to stream some simple video...and again, Firefox 2.0.0.14 gave me no issues, but Firefox 3 RC gave me massive video problems.
Anyone have any insight as to what is going on? I'm REALLY hoping that the full version of Firefox 3 works well in my system...
Living With a Nerd
Better late than never... the article was posted 23:28 Hong Kong time, and now we're already almost an hour into the 18th of June. For Japanese readers it will have been even worse.
For people like me in Australia the download day doesn't even start on the 17th - it is starting on the 18th at 3am...
It is on!!!
[nit-picking soapbox] I'm guessing that the download day will start at 1 PM EDT, not EST. Daylight savings time is in effect until November. Seriously, if you can't remember whether it's EDT or EST just put ET, as that's correct 12 months of the year. [/nit-picking soapbox] I don't know why that bugs me so much, but it does. Probably because I live somewhere that until recently didn't observe DST.
. . . and the servers DIAF. Surprised?
Mon chien, il n'a pas du nez. Comment scent-il? TrÃs mauvais!
Does Google Browser Sync support FF3 yet? I can't live without my Browser Sync anymore... I use FF on 4 computers, and there's no way I'm going to keep all my settings synced across them manually.
I do like the new features (the lower RAM usage more than anything else), but I can't live without my Sync.
"I will trust Google to 'do no evil' until the founders no longer run it." Hello Alphabet.
The site seems to be bogged down for some reason...
life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think
Just tried to get to www.mozilla.com and get "http1.1/service unavailable". Looks like they slashdotted themselves!
and it looks like the site is already hosed!
Here it is:
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/
I'm really bummed that there will be no Google Browser Sync, as this REALLY made using FF2 on multiple computers a dream. But at least we have the likes of the Foxmarks add-on.
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
well it's 1700 UTC now and all firefox sites are timing out, great
mozilla really planned this one well
As of FireFox 3.0b3 browser.urlbar.richResults no longer works. The ability to chose your own search results style was removed by the Mozilla developers as part of bug #407836. They're illogical viewpoint is explained in bug #403159.
And, for the record, Oldbar does not fix the problem. It does not disable the searching style introduced by FF 3.0. It only makes the results look a little more like 2.0.
According to this article browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped no longer works either. The value of browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped is now ignored.
It's not the GP's fault either. Dozens of articles have been published in the past few months that have old, outdated information. Even Redhat put it in their Knowledgebase on 6/4. The sheer number of articles attempting to help people disable the "awesome bar" should make the developers realize that this is not a "feature" that everyone wants. I agree with the GP. I too HATE the awesome bar. It's a shame too because I would love to have the fixes for the memory leaks in FF 2.0 that don't exist but FF 3.0 addresses anyway.
Have Mozilla not prepared for thousands of people to hit their website at the same time?
Oops.
Not going to happen. The whole project is being discontinued.
What better way to make sure your servers will all crash than to state a specific time for everyone to download the new version!?!?!?!?
Personally I'm going to wait for a few days just to ensure that no reported problems surface.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
They didn't prepare for this very well now, did they? Someone dropped the ball. Site's been down since like 12:56
has been slashdotted!
The servers, the servers, the servers are on fire.
The servers, the servers, the servers are on fire.
We don't need to download let the motherf***ers burn.
Burn motherf***ers, burn.
Since I downloaded Firefox 4 last week. Apparently it is a special non-bloated version, too.
Not due to slashdot only, of course.. but I've been trying to load up getfirefox.com since 1:00pm, and it appears to be bogged down.
Really sad indeed... :-(
Test server
Production Server
Never the twain shall meet
Firefox servers are overloaded and people are resorting to torrents.
I believe they will attempt the world record for the largest, willing, Distributed Denial of Service Attack.
:)
Well, what the hell, lets help bury their servers
what about bittorrent since the server is already hammered
People in Arizona and Hawaii don't care about daylight savings time, you insensitive clod!
1 minute past and they have melted.....
Be gone from my sight or prepare to feel my flaming wraith!
The server to download FF is down. Is anyone surprised?
As the official time got closer and closer, loading times for their website got slower and slower. The release time finally hit and now the page won't load. :-) And when that happens, people look elsewhere to download...
And pirate bay already has several torrents up. I think it is really hard to track actual downloads these days. Especially where there are torrents and proxies.
I refreshed the web page once the countdown hit zero and a million slashdotters came out of the shadows it seems; the server destroyed by madness, starting hysterically downloading.
Oh well. Maybe later then. Now for food.
"Three eyes are better than one" -- Lieutenant Columbo
This reinforces my rejection of religious fervor, even when the religion has nothing to do with supernatural forces.
Your truly, a proud Gentoo / Ubuntu / Mandriva / DSL / OpenWRT user.
Awesome ... 9 minutes after they open the gates and the site is already offline ... I guess its good they make web browsers and not web servers.
Persistent Volume manager for Kubernetes - https://github.com/dwimsey/openshift-pvmanager
Rename that "Down Day". Mozilla.org is quite crushed right now. Nothing but reset connections and "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable"
As this scale of DDoS attack, What load-balancer they are using ? I'm curious a lot :)
...most FAILED download ATTEMPTS. SIGH /.'ed indeed.
If at first you don't succeed... How does that go again? Ah, forget it.
Has anyone reported a successful download of firefox 3 since 10am PST (1pm EST)?
Let's get a grip on reality, dude. Slashdot isn't anywhere near as big 'n' important as you geeks want like to think it is. How many active slashdot accounts are there?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but in accounting terms, you guys would be considered a rounding error.
It's sort of like the Slashdotter's version of the Drake equation:
N = (Number of slashdotters) x (Number of active Slashdot accounts) x (Time since world record attempt was announced) x (Number of Slashdotters that even use Firefox) x (Number of slashdotters that actually give a shit if Mozilla breaks the record.)
That last one weeded me out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know - I'll take my troll mod now. Thank you, sir. May I have another?
They invited the world to download several Mb of data from their servers.
They are Masochistic...
I honestly have to ask if they even thought of the ramifications before hand.
1+2+1+1 || 1+2+2+1
The site's already been Firefoxededed
Itâ(TM)s just been a bad joke - and has backfired badly. Here at 6pm UK time, in theory the build should be out (since its now 10am in West Coast USA), but unsurprisingly the serverâ(TM)s are DOSâ(TM)ed and unreachable and much of the world that couldâ(TM)ve been downloading (i.e. East of the UK) are now asleep.
Really badly organised Mozilla. Why on earth didnâ(TM)t you publish what time (and time zone) itâ(TM)d be available in.
Mike
Linux fan and Win32 developer
After a 15 minutes of trying, I got a 25mbit download rate!! w00t
It is now 11 minutes past release time for the download of FireFox 3 and I have been trying for the last 10 minutes to get to the website. It seems that mozilla.com, mozilla.org, and getfirefox.com are all being overwhelmed. I can occasionally get a page to load, briefly, but it takes a few minutes. Also they still haven't posted a link for it yet. Anyone else experience this? Is the slashdot community crashing their servers (joking!)? Is Microsoft trying to sabotage the world record attempt (possibly, though unlikely)? Have a good day all and good luck downloading.
The Mind Is Speculative and Interpretive. So speculate all you want and interpret this 00101101 01001110!
If you are going to try to get people to download all at once, use a CDN.
Because http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ is not working right now.
Test your net with Netalyzr
The only thing holding me back is getting a copy of Venkman that won't crash in FF3. It works perfectly up until the release candidates, so I'm still on FF3 beta 5.
Now with even MORE Fail. Servers are plowed under. Well done! Ask for abuse, and then fail to handle it.
Sigh. Off to find a torrent.
(This is also -1 Flamebait, btw).
Unless you're an astronomer, nobody cares about the technical difference of stating EDT vs. EST times during the daylight savings time period. Everybody just assumes and forgets to state the correct abbreviation.
We have a whole 24 hours to make the download count. I might try back in a couple hours (are there any other options =P).
... but all the publicity it got is worse than the /. effect.
www.spreadfirefox.com is down at this time, in Spain and Portugal
As is typical of /. all the ff websites listed are simply _not_ responding at all
it's 1:10 pm EST...
i wonder how long it will be until the traffic slows down a bit to allow people to actually get this download started
and _why_ are they doing this when only RC3 of the software is ready????
wouldn't it make a tiny bit more sense to wait until its actually 'done'?
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/outages.html
The one time I try to RTFA, the one time....
1. Get millions of people to pledge to download on a specific day
2. Be unprepared for millions of hits to your website
3. ???
4. Break record for most downloads!
The most fully Slashdotted sight ever! I can't get any http://mozilla.org/ sight to respond.
Quite humorous.
As a different way to advocate and to celebrate Firefox 3, the french community of beauty technicians has set a challenge up.
It is open to anyone. You just need to feature the Firefox logo with nail art, tattoos, body painting, make up, hair design, hand-made jewels...
More about the Firefox beauty tech challenge : http://forum.manucure.info/firefox-day/en/
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I've reached http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ several times since 1pm, and it's still showing the download for Firefox 2, not 3.
And that makes we wonder, is it just the "download day" that starts at 1pm, or are they actually releasing it at 1pm? the wording in the summary is vague.
This is the link to FTP site: ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/ Not sure if downloading from here will contribute to the counter.
"You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time."
Downloads from the releases.mozilla.org site won't count toward the world record. Same for other FTP and HTTP mirrors. :(
I sure wish they'd opted to serve all this from Amazon S3 or something to keep up with demand.
--Nik
I guess Spain isn't invited to the download day. I keep going to their page and it keeps trying to get me to download FF2 :(
Anyone else in Europe having the same problem?
p.s. yes i'm sure i could find the FF3 download somewhere but that isn't really my point.
http://greenobyl.com/ please.... think of the children!!
that's RC3
http://mozilla.isohunt.com/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/
It is supposed to STILL COUNT for the record... give it a go in other places, but the site says for canada only.
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--- Tao
In all seriousness folks... This is dumb. None of the mirrors have Firefox 3 and mozilla's own servers are totally slammed but showing only Firefox 2 in any case... Someone really blew it.
No-one makes correct code on the first attempt. If you've got a bug-free application on the first try, you have undocumented bugs. True story.
The mozilla.com site hasn't even posted FF3... only rc3 is out.
Epic fail.
Most people aren't thought about after they're gone. "I wonder where Rob got the plutonium" is better than most get.
As expected, server is not responding. Always thought it to be a stupid idea. Its like self sabotage.
Got the page to load... It still links FF 2.0.
Julie Moult is an idiot.
1) now when I try to go to my favourite paragliding site, all sites with "Para" in the get proposed, including those that don't have para in the hostname
2) the bar has decided once and for all that I have 9 unread mails in my gmail inbox
3) the "handle all files like this one from now on" bug/design flaw is still there, since 0.xx
Overloaded servers after a month or so of lining up a few million users to pounce on them all at the same time today.
Who knew?
After hitting refresh a couple of times, I get http://getfirefox.com/ to respond and it brings up the download page for... Firefox 2.
Is this no longer a valid place to download Firefox?
I certainly hope they win, but this is screwy, can't even get to addons.mozilla.org to get updated addons that work with this new version. Sad really, now I have to downgrade to 2.x.
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0
;)
Looks like they are running a bit behind.
Here's what mozilla is saying from their ftp server site: ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/mac/index.html We're not quite ready yet! We're just as excited as you are for our upcoming release, but we're still putting the finishing touches on Firefox 3: preparing the new mozilla.com website, getting our severs ready for downloads, and doing our final pre-launch checks. You can follow our progress if you'd like! The files in this directory are - for now - only meant to be used by our testers. Downloading them directly can harm our ability to distribute Firefox efficiently, and will also not be counted as part of our attempt to set a Guiness World Record for the most software downloads in a day. If you'd like to be notifed the minute that we launch, please go to sign up for Download Day. Or just head over to getfirefox.com on Tuesday, June 17th after 10am PDT.
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4243942/Firefox_3.0_final_for_Linux_(en-US).4243942.TPB.torrent http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4243947/Firefox_3.0_final_for_Windows_(en-US).4243947.TPB.torrent Finally, a use for thepiratebay! It's the only tracker I could find with any number of people on it. I have capacity to seed about 50 megabits right now...so use these!
1PM EST is 2PM east of Quebec, and 2:30 in Newfoundland! (They're easily confused, eh?)
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Nothing could beat complete denial
- Emily Haines
The idea of having the largest one day download was a Microsoft hoax designed to create a DOS attack on Mozilla.
Keep hitting that "refresh" button to try and get to the Download site. I'm pretty sure that will help out the slashdot effect!
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
download firefox 3?
All the server's are getting bombarded (GEE YOU THINK THIS MIGHT HAPPEN?) and I want to participate!
I was hoping mozilla group would have had enogh sense to anticipate so many connections, considering this is an international download record being set. GUESS NOT.
Change two values
browser.urlbar.maxRichResults
Set this to 0 (zero)
browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped
Set this one to true
I had to use the direct link http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US to download FF3. Otherwise I got "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." and "The server at www.spreadfirefox.com is taking too long to respond." from Mozilla http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/?from=getfirefox and Spread Fire Fox respectively.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0
ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/
For Great Justice.
The Mozilla Org / Firefox has failed miserably at this whole world record attempt. Firstly, they start at a cockeyed time instead of 00:01 UTC so half of the world has far less than a day to download. Then, they are incapable of having the servers perform even for the first minute and if you do get a response the website is still showing version 2 as the latest! So, in an effort to spread the love, I tell my non-technical friends to go download firefox 3. First they get no reponse from the site so their reaction is, "hmmm, firefox is shit ... I can't get it." The lucky ones get a response and are served up version 2 which doesn't count for the record and is inferior to version 3.
What a disaster.
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The FTP links that have been posted DONT COUNT towards the download day stats.
:-)
The official links from download.mozilla.org are:
Win32 (exe):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US
Linux (tar.bz2):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
OS-X (dmg):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=osx&lang=en-US
happy downloading
Their web servers are toasted. When you try to do something like set a download record, perhaps you should ensure your IT infrastructure can handle it as well as your PR infrastructure can.
Prevent linux based DDOS's!
http://linux.denialofservice.org/
I was able to download the release by going to the Google cache of the mirrors list. A little navigation required, but at least the server wasn't dead.
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:_PnqbgP1GpIJ:www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html+firefox+3+download+mirror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
The download from ISC - San Francisco for me was lightning fast.
Here's the link at ISC for the en-US release:
http://pv-mirror01.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
This signature is far too complex to have been created by chance.
The FTP no longer has the "not ready!" index.html file anymore.
Huzzah!
http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html
Most people aren't thought about after they're gone. "I wonder where Rob got the plutonium" is better than most get.
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I tried to access the site http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/ in order to contribute to the "World Record" and I got a Network Timed Out error.
It just occurred to me this is a like a open invite to a albeit "Unintentional" Denial Of Service Attack.
Asking people to access a site within a given time frame. This is how the DOS attack used to be carried out in the good old days, when bots were not a craze.
For now I am just waiting for my chance to download FF3 and contribute to the "record".
GO OPEN SOURCE!!
Does FF3 include OSX Keychain Support? I heard from earlier releases that this was to be included, but I can't seem to find it in the final version. Perhaps it requires some about:config option to be set...
Does anyone know if this is possible?
Cheers
I was sort of interested in helping them boost the download stats, but due to the mismanagement of this event I've mostly lost interest. When I woke up this morning I expected it to be available but it wasn't. By 10am there was still no real official word as to when this whole shindig was supposed to take place. If you're going to have an event, it would be good to give people advance notice as to when it begins. I didn't even know when it starts until 45 minutes after it began. Now trying to download, it's obvious they weren't even prepared for it because the page is down.
Because I'm using Linux (Ubuntu) it's more convenient for me to wait until the most recent version is in the repositories, I'm not going to sit around and hope their download page starts working.
I don't have mod points but this sums up the problems of the new URL bar very nicely.
I've been using FF3 since the betas. I hate the new URL autocomplete. It is unbearably slow (and I have a modern, dual-core machine). Going back to FF2, installed on another machine, is like a dream.
Sorry people - I meant to hit DOWNLOAD, but accidentally hit DOS ATTACK.
Boy is my face red.
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I'm running Firefox 3.0 now! My god, the net has never looked so beautiful! I think I'm going to cry... *sniff* *sniff*
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It's the same binary than FF3RC3.
faco
When I first started using FF 3.0b*, I hated the awesome bar too: it ruined my nice setups to quickly hit wikipedia articles or whatnot.
Then I used it for a while. It grows on you. I need to go to the bug talking about threaded view issues, but I just can't remember which number that was. Solution: "bug thread..." oh look, there it is!
Now what was that DOM spec? w3.org/TR/... er...; now it's w3c dom, oh look, there it is!
Remember that page linked to from slashdot about the watchmacallit. Under the old searchbar, you have to try to remember which site it came from; the new one allows you to use the title. I must tell you, there were more than a few times when I wanted to search the title when looking for an old link in FF 2.
So, if you hate it, suck it up, use it for a few weeks, and then reevaluate your opinions.
http://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/
The linux release is dated 6-11. Win release is 6-17.
Way to go Mozilla, how are you supposed to make any sort of record when your website is completely down. Even if mirrors of the download pop up, there will no longer be a good way to track it.
"During My Service In The United States Congress, I Took The Initiative In Creating The Internet." -Al Gore
First, the time zone thing, I waited all day yesterday, and earlier today when the ftp went up, I had an opportunity to download, but I didn't, they had a little readme asking people not to as it would overload their server, so I waited for the proper time, and it's slashdotted, this is great, just show how organized the project is. I really enjoyed using Firefox whenever I'm in windows, but on OSX, I hardly ever uses it, and last week, I got Opera 9.5 and I haven't looked back since, I'd still friends and family to install Firefox on windows, but due to this enourmous cockups on this day, the experience has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
When browsing with Lynx.it still shows Firefox 2
/=search [delete]=history list
:
lynx http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html
Download Firefox
Download Firefox (English)
* Download Now - Free Windows (2.0.0.14, English (US), 5.7MB)
* Download Now - Free Linux (2.0.0.14, English (US), 9.2MB)
* Download Now - Free Mac OS X (2.0.0.14, English (US), 17MB)
Release Notes - Other Systems and Languages
Download Thunderbird (English)
* Download Now - Free Windows (2.0.0.14, English (US), 6.4MB)
* Download Now - Free Linux (2.0.0.14, English (US), 11MB)
* Download Now - Free Mac OS X (2.0.0.14, English (US), 19MB)
Release Notes - Other Systems and Languages
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
Other languages:
[English (US)_______________________________________]
Go
Copyright 005-2008 Mozilla. All rights reserved.
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Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back.
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When i go to firefox.com it still show ff2 to d/l
"Http/1.1 Service Unavailable" from www.mozilla.com- ain't popularity a biatch? :)
I had rather hoped that they had some industrial-grade uberserver farm ready to roll for this one. Having looked after a 50 million users/day site myself for a few years, I do have some sympathy however..
Downloads are taking so long and resulting in so many errors, i have to wonder if asking the subset of computer users with the most bandwidth (geeks) to all download a file at the same time without massively building out to handle the scale was a clever idea. And by "i have to wonder", i'm thinking more "all aboard the fail boat"
3.0 is still not released - just RC3. People will just have to re-download the real thing later....
And why not push bittorrent downloads? Much more efficient. I don't see it mentioned anywhere.
--Neal
Go IETF!
So.. What is this? It seems like something is counting downloads from somewhere? http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=osx&lang=en-US
I find it rather counter-productive that it's been "officially" released (meaning it counts toward the countdown) for just over an hour now and the Firefox page at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ still lists 2.0.0.14 for download. Sure, there's a link for a "sneak peak" (i.e., 3.0 RC3), but nothing for the full release?
Why not? 'Cause that would have made sense.
Julie Moult is an idiot.
Mozilla servers are crashing right as I write this comment. I am so disappointed. They should have made downloads available on a lot more servers with random download-links that would direct people to mirror servers.
And the site is down......... Http/1.1 Service Unavailable It was a nice try though.
While I, like many Slashdotters, support the widespread adoption of Firefox, I also find it dumb to have this kind of download goal. I thought we wanted bandwidth shared - a la bittorrent - and not bolluxed up by having to all hit the same server.
Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
Well it's Slashdotted good for me. Well I think I can wait a little longer for it.
See the Pictures of the Flood of '08
Probably one of the silliest marketing "stunts" ever pulled by open source projects.
Kinda perpertuates the stereotype of nerds in a room high fiving each other cheering over some silly "achievment".
"Go forth, and be excellent to each other" --Bill & Ted
Why does Firefox 3 seem to ship with the back and forward buttons turned off?
I doubt very many people know the keyboard shortcuts for these (and even if the do KNOW them, it's unlikely most people actually use them very often (and yes I know SOME people use keyboard shortcuts so please don't post saying you use them because I don't care)).
http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/06/17/firefox-3-coming-soon/ "The outpouring of interest and enthusiasm around Firefox 3 has been overwhelming (literally!). Our servers are currently feeling the burn and should be back to normal shortly. Download day will officially commence once the site goes live. The 24 hours period will be clocked from that moment. Thanks for your continued support." Posted by Melissa Shapiro There we have it... We helped slashdot Mozilla. :P
Julie Moult is an idiot.
When I eventually got on to Mozilla Europe...
The button says v3...
The download... v2.0.0.14
Oops!
http://media.buzzhumor.com/7/1197615060_1184265009_Megan_Fox_35b99310.jpg
So, they go live, someone posts it here and on all the other forums monitoring it and whoosh, the server bursts into flames again. How many times do you think we can make it two..
at least I can get WINE today.
Were that I say, pancakes?
Sites been down for awhile. Maybe the Mozilla team can get the Guinness Book of World Record's "Most effective self inflicted denial of service attack."
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Contents of email from the download day site: "Are you ready to make history? Are you ready to set a World Record? Today is Download Day. To become part of the official Guinness World Record you must download Firefox 3 by 17:00 UTC on June 18, 2008, or roughly 24 hours from now." 17:00 UTC? That's 1:00 PM *tomorrow*.
Right now on http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday there's a SVN merge conflict. You would have thought they would prepare for this event a bit more solidly...
Lets see if we can't help Mozilla along by not slashdotting it some more? :P
Someone should update the original article and say Mozilla is down.
Julie Moult is an idiot.
Organic Software??? Hmmm...
The mozilla.com homepage is redirecting to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html Maybe the RC3 is actually the final version.. The page is taking forever to load though. Also of interest, Germany is downloading over 800 copies a minute and growing. The US is at 500 and dropping. http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/
Why it is 11:20, an hour and 20 minutes after the start time, and their website still only provides Firefox 2?
GetFirefox.com is down (understandably)
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/ has a link to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday which shows FireFox 2 only. The FireFox3 sneak peek shows only the rc3 download. Where http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US came from I have no clue. If I visit download.mozilla.com it shows FireFox 3 but the download list is entirely 2.0.0.14.
They blew it. Nearly half a million downloads registered on their world map - half a million morons who downloaded FireFox 2 apparently.
GREAT JOB!
When I go to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ is says Firefox 3 but the file downloaded is 2.0.0.14 and the styling is whacked.
For attempting to set a record, it sure isn't setup well.
The main page has changed to Firefox 3, but all the download links are still 2.0.0.14
Download Mac OS X Version
I like how they have a source control conflict on the home page currently. Work FASTER! *crack whip*
The above is not worth reading.
In their rush to get the site updated they've forgotten to remove the revision markers from the HTML after an auto-merge from the repository :) The GetFirefox page finally loaded for me and at the top:
.mine ======= >>>>>>> .r15918
:)
<<<<<<<
I feel their pain. Glad I'm not the only one who has done this
http://firefoxvista.com/more firefox tips
I finally got the spreadfirefox site to come up and clicked on the Download Firefox 3 link which directed me to the Mozilla site. Looking at the download link it's sending me to download FF 2.0.0.14 not 3.0! Below is the link to a screen shot of the D/L link.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1466/wrongfirefoxmm4.png
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/
Some problems with this:
My old FF3 rc-build tells me that it's 3.0, but doesn't mention anything about rc, so there's a risk that novice user doesn't know he's using rc-build.
And if you know that there's going to be a shitloads of people trying to download the browser why don't you make sure your servers can handle it.
And lastly, when the download page loads, why does it give me FF2, I thought it was FF3 download day?
Anyone notice this at the top of the page? .mine ======= >>>>>>> .r15918
<<<<<<<
Someone screwed up a merge over at Mozilla.org.
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/
I managed to finally get to their page but it only lists a bunch of localized builds of Firefox 2.0.0.14 and a couple of builds of 3.0rc3 that are listed as beta. This is at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html which is where I automatically get redirected when I go to mozilla.com.
So where are we supposed to get FF3 from?
If this fooks with my Netflix streaming, the hurt will be distributed in copious amounts.
And whoops... the link to download 3.0 is going to version 2.0.0.14
I'm beginning to think that they need to just concede today, take a step back and try again. What a mess.
Mozilla.com now exhibits a uncool HTTP/1.1 Service Unavailable. They could use Bit-torrent...
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http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla/topics/why_cant_i_download_firefox_3
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I'd say the manner in which this release was publicized and rolled out (which I'm sure will happen at some point) was dismal. I'm able to get to the download page, where the graphic boasts Firefox 3, but the small type underneath says 2.0.0.14 and links to that version. Not to mention, we're a good hour and-a-half behind the advertised release time. Not the best advert of open-source - makes you think about the expression, you get what you pay for. :(
In the meantime... Opera 9.5 is nice and fast... as is Safari (Konqueror for windows, essentially) Oh, and the IE8 beta is fun - I'm not saying it works, but it can be thoroughly amusing with its renders (eg. maps.google.com)
There are no uninteresting things. There are only uninterested people.
the main mozilla page makes lots of noise about Firefox 3, yet the direct download links on that page are for v2.0.0.14, I wonder how many others are downloading what they think is the latest...
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
"The Best Firefox Yet
:/
With more than 15,000 improvements, Firefox 3 is faster, safer and smarter than ever before.
* Free Download 2.0.0.14 for Windows English (US) (7.8MB)"
Ummm... is it just me, or does that download link seem eerily familiar?
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"I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole
I've just received my notification to download Firefox and contribute to the record. When I happily click on the link, the target site says FireFox 3 (2.0.0.14 for Windows). Ok, maybe it's my regional settings, so I head to other systems and languages, to find out that every release is 2.0.0.14
Oh very nice. It says 3 on the site now, but the version is still 2.0. The download link itself is rather amusing.
URL: http://www.getfirefox.com/
Response: Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
Even though it's 1 hour 40 min past when it was supposed to go live, the main link on www.getfirefox.com still links too 2.0.0.14 even though the image says Firefox 3. WTF?
I get out of high school at 2:00PM EST, so now, just one hour and 37 minutes after it started, I finally get home, excited to use the new FF, and get: HTTP 1/1: Service Unavailable. Now its loading, but so slowly... and it seems they are editing the web pages to use very basic HTML (no fancy stuff, or even backgrounds) to help suppress the server loads... but they are still working on the Firefox page.
Like someone else noticed the link that said Firefox 3 was for awhile reading 2.0.0.14 in the fine print and the URL was parsed for that version.
They did update that. Though it is still being stupidly slow.
Here is the corrected link:
http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US
This will be as successful as giving out free beer in Times Square on New Years Eve....with one tap.
Please take a number and catch a train to the end of the line.
Got it! It's up, the button says 3.0 and it links to one of multiple places that have it. Looks like they are using some bittorrents too.
Julie Moult is an idiot.
Mozilla - dotted :)
Site is refusing to respond. Apparently it's been brought to it's knees by multiple thousands of continuous hits.
--==>>BobT>
Yay! I got one! A FF3 download complete.
I feel like one of those parents that beats the crap out of other parents on Christmas Eve for the last Furby in Walmart.
Play me online? Well you know that I'll beat you. If I ever meet you I'll "/sbin/shutdown -h now" you. -Weird Al, kinda.
what is the point of trying to set a 'download record'? (am I the only party-pooper here? :-P)
It looks like the 3.0 release is available at all the usual mirrors. The only thing I'm unsure of is that the 3.0 install file is dated June 11th. Has this thing really been done for a week? Or maybe that's just the Win32-US-English version and they had to work on the other versions to have a simultaneous release?
Anyway, here's the link for mirrors: http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html
wouldn't firefox3 be an excellent opportunity to demonstrate how effective a bittorrent can be for distributing files. seems like it woulda been a good "legal" demonstration to the non-linux types. yes just about every distro is distrubted through that means, and the same for most VMware appliances; but here's an example mom and pop could have enjoyed.
anyhow..
"Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" ~Frank Zappa
EdelFactor
Does anyone have a list of MD5s or SHAs for Firefox? Specifically, right now I'd like to check the en-GB Windows .exe version.
I did it! I saw a glimpse of the new website before it died again! I am not lying guys, I swear! Now if only I can download the damn thing then I can go to bed and prepare myself for explaining why firefox download was more important than meeting the project deadline.
Politicians and Pedophiles: Two groups of exploitive bastards who are most dangerous when they're thinking of children.
What's the correct download?
I've got one windows install file that is 5.75Mb, and another that's 7.14Mb, both claiming to be Mozilla version 4.42.0.0. The page itself alternately claims the executable was FireFox 3 (version 2.0.0.14), or FireFox 2 (version 3.0) or some other equally doubtful combination, depending on when the page was refreshed...
Getting it at a crappy 10-12 kbps after a bunch of site refreshes -> Screencap
Erm, don't ask why I thought I should take a screencap. I am going with the flow here.
Politicians and Pedophiles: Two groups of exploitive bastards who are most dangerous when they're thinking of children.
Direct links to win32, en-US, from the official mirrors:
http://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://pv-mirror01.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://mozilla2.mirrors.tds.net/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://pv-mirror02.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://mozilla.mirrors.easynews.com/mozilla/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
Other international sites (navigate to appropriate OS and lang)
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
http://mozilla.ftp.iij.ad.jp/pub/mozilla/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
http://mozmirror01.true.nl/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
For more, see google cache of mirror list here:
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:_PnqbgP1GpIJ:www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html+firefox+3+download+mirror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
This signature is far too complex to have been created by chance.
I think the internets may be down.
I'm sure this has been posted a million times but I just finished downloading it from:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday
Reviewing just the first hour of video games.
About how it's just as hard for you to convert from UTC to your local timezone as it is to convert from one local timezone to another?
Look, in case you don't realise, to convert from UTC you how to know only one timezone - yours. Not so with converting from PST/EST/PDT/EDT...
This is exactly like metric/English dichotomy - using UTC is much easier for THE WHOLE FVCKING WORLD vs. straightforward to you and much more complicated for the rest of the word.
(and actually I'm slightly surprised if Mozilla went with US-centric timezone, seeing as US is NOT their biggest market)
One that hath name thou can not otter
I wish you could remove the bookmarks toolbar thing from the Bookmarks menu. I hate all those extra options in there that I never use.
I can delete the 'recently visited' one and things like that, but then I can't get rid of the horizontal bars that are dividers between where they used to be. So now I have the useless "bookmarks toolbar" folder and three horizontal lines in a row that I cant move before my bookmarks start.
Other than that, it seems like Firefox - quick and solid.
I would like to say that this post was made by me using FF3. Posting has never looked so beautiful. When I first opened up the browser angels came out of my screen and started to sing.
I'm trying to do a reinstall on a workstation that was having problems, and when I went to install the browser extensions... the addons site is down. I bet this is why: everybody's upgrading to 3.0 and has to upgrade all their extensions and themes to match.
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
They could have saved users a ton of grief by giving us the option of having all their UI bullshit, but frankly, this reeks of Pidgin.
In fairness, the new engine works great and is not leaking memory like a sieve, and I like that all new bookmarks go to an uncategorized category instead of one giant list. The whole new bookmark management is quite nice. A+ for fixing the bugs. D for the turd of a UI.
I kept refreshing the whole day but no FF3 on site. And no sign of FF3 on homepage
if all those idiots who said they'd queue up scripts to keep downloading firefox3 over and over again would QUIT ALREADY, i might actually be able to download the dang thing before 3.0.0.1 comes out.
Total execution time: 32,393.8ms +/-6.4% - Full Result
Total execution time: 5,442.2ms +/-2.4% - Full Result
Total execution time: 57,794.6ms +/-8.1% -
When installing, make sure the install directory does NOT say "Beta 4" or "Beta 5" after it. I believe the actual release should just read Firefox 3. All the above linked addresses do are forward you to mirrors which MAY or MAY NOT have the correct install on them.
I truly believe the Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The download page finally links to version 3 instead of version 2 (for a while the graphic said 3 but the link was to 2).
An alternative is the Coral Cache copy of the new page.
n/t
As an open source project with high end developers I would expect them to make a tiny getfirefox.exe/.bin/.app which will download firefox over torrent protocol, share up to 1/1 and delete itself while exiting. I get the idea from Blizzard's stuff.
It could also count as download or better, it could send "I am done" signal to server. As all in open source, open protocol nobody would get paranoid too.
We all guess Apple etc. reasons not to embrace p2p, what is Mozilla's reason?
At least it proves even a gigantic organisation like Mozilla can't stand to old fashion file serving.
The servers are responding again, and mozilla.com gives me this button:
* Download Firefox - Free
3.0 for Linux i686
English (US) (9.2MB)
but when I click it, I get a 8.7MB file that is an exact match (diff) to the RC3 I downloaded last week.
Intentional? Mirrors that haven't updated?
Why? Who cares?
So a bunch of conceited idiots can say "Look how good this software is. It must be great because we broke a download record" or "Ha, Microsoft take that! Your software sucks. We must be so much better than you because we broke a download record" or "Open source rules the world. It must be the greatest, it broke a record."
Is Steve Jobs running Mozilla? A marketing ploy is all this is.
**INSERT FANCY JINGLE HERE**
"We must be the greatest, we must be the best. Our download record proves it, we passed the test"
I'll try anything once. Twice if it tastes good
Could this be more stupid? All you idiots downloading the same file over and over have fun.
OK, so everyone is downloading the latest version of Firefox today to help beat the world record. I, like many of you, contributed my fair share by downloading a copy for Windows. But where is the official download count?
This is Microsoft's only advantage over Mozilla - they know all about marketing.
I downloaded about 2:00 p.m. CDT with no problems. The bitrate was a tad slow...about modem speed, ranging from 34k to 60k, but no biggie.
Installed just fine, imported FF2 and IE7 bookmarks (2 machines) with no issues.
Speed seems very good, although only an hour in and still at work, I haven't stressed it much yet.
I am my own gestalt.
Has anyone noticed that JavaScript performance has actually decreased compared to RC2? Shouldn't it be the other way round because they remove debugging code in the final release? Look at my Sunspider benchmark results (the faster one is the RC2):
TEST COMPARISON FROM TO
TOTAL 1.22x as slow 3012.4ms 3666.6ms
3d: 1.12x as slow 372.6ms 415.6ms
cube: 1.14x as slow 139.2ms 158.4ms
morph: 115.2ms 115.2ms
raytrace: 1.20x as slow 118.2ms 142.0ms
access: 1.12x as slow 436.8ms 487.2ms
binary-trees: 2.14x as slow 54.0ms 115.8ms
fannkuch: 160.8ms 159.6ms
nbody: 165.8ms 154.6ms
nsieve: 56.2ms 57.2ms
bitops: 1.21x as slow 290.8ms 350.6ms
3bit-bits-in-byte: 1.75x as slow 46.8ms 82.0ms
bits-in-byte: 1.35x as slow 73.2ms 99.0ms
bitwise-and: 1.03x as fast 79.4ms 76.8ms
nsieve-bits: 91.4ms 92.8ms
controlflow: 2.77x as slow 39.0ms 108.2ms
recursive: 2.77x as slow 39.0ms 108.2ms
crypto: 1.53x as slow 183.6ms 280.8ms
aes: 1.33x as slow 71.2ms 94.8ms
md5: 1.69x as slow 56.0ms 94.4ms
sha1: 1.62x as slow 56.4ms 91.6ms
date:
from the to-stupid-for-words dept.
You can get to the FireFox 3 download here:
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/
It is the English (British) version... but hey you can still download it for the day.
Spreadfirefox still seems to be down, although I saw it (and the world map) about an hour ago. Sadly, the "download firefox 3" button pointed to the 2.0.0.14 download!
(19:50 UTC - mozilla.com is up and live).
Andy
...remember that:
1. Mozilla is a profit-making corporation just like Microsoft, with income in the tens of millions through Google's start page - but, unlike Microsoft, it doesn't create a non-profit "Foundation" to give the impression that it's some charity reliant on donors and cheerleaders(*);
2. Yes, adherence to web standards is better than IE7, but worse than Safari3.1 (much worse, before FF3) - it's just another browser, guys;
2. Installation of Firefox 3.0 is dependent upon agreeing to a compulsory EULA with terms just as draconian as some of old Bill's - hopefully you've read it all before installation, but my favourite is paragraph 4, which warns that a privacy policy exists which may be changed arbitrarily, so you are to check the web site for updates at regular intervals.
(*) Well, OK, there is the B&M Gates Foundation, but that ploughs hundreds of millions into AIDS research etc., and isn't a revenue generating arm for Microsoft.
Will there be (is there?) a natively supported 64-bit version of FF3? I haven't been following the beta releases very close so I'm not sure if it has been suggested/discussed/quashed. With FF2 I know there was a non-official release that someone threw together for 64-bit, but it had issues with flash and other embedded content.
Launch every sig.
... so much for mindless dragging, dropping and running.
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I do like firefox 3.0 - but one annoying thing makes it quite unusable for me. I used to keep selections of webpages - by printing them with kde's kprinter to pdf (cups pdf works too - but it has some smaller problems - where kprinter's pdf is a lot more relyable). So i had to switch back to 2.x or opera to be able to continue doing as i'm used too. And that's sad! It seems there are a few linux users missing this feature but not a lot... If it's the oposite - it may be right to request this feature back - and the way it's implemented in Opera! Just the way i like it! Let them hear it!!! It's important that the mozilla team gets good info of what we need and what we don't. Sad that this isn't into firefox - that they just had no time to implement a very nice linux feature like this ( i have something against .net - not against gnome - and i do not like mr. De Icaza, because of his blind adoration for microsoft... - and that's under understatement... )
Hey, who let the RIAA guy in?
Space game using normal deck of cards: http://BattleCards.org
or nearly 3 and half hours since this was supposed to start, and mozilla.com still shows 2.0.0.14 for download.
Pretty disorganized.
I did a sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 and installed it on my laptop, I wonder if this still counts towards the record?
I am reserving judgment until I confirm that, after 24hrs, it is taking up LESS than 1GB of memory...
i remember there being one . . .
# ./firefox
Error: in (function call): procedure or syntax required but got: Error: fatal: looped fatal error
I guess there is a plugin or setting error, or something. A google search for this generates a lot of people with the same problem but no solution.
This works for me : http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/
http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/ As of this post ~1.15 million downloads, at ~7550 per minute. I'd say their goal well in hand.
Well, Steve just walked in and told me to download it and evaluate the competition. What with the slashdotting, and heavy weight of chairs in this cubicle, my life might actually be in jeopardy.
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
Yes, IN THEORY. It'd have been truer like this:
Break A Record == Press == People Hearing About It == More Browser Market Share == Death of MS.
I mean, = is a little strong to suggest that all of what you stated is inherently true, though you are probably correct, it is not completely accurate.
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
db
I am literally 3000 tokens away from the chaotic crossbow --Stephen
"Is this..... What day is it?"
"Get a JOB, SIR!"
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
In Scotland you have to give up your first born child, just for a FF 3.0 d/l.... You don't WANT to know the price of a hamburger!!
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
What about the fiftieth try? One should think Mozilla-Netscape-Mozilla-Firefox could have most of the bugs ironed our of it after a decade or so...
Guess not, apparently.
Looks like Google decided to abandon GoogleBrowserSync . Nothing has all of the current features. FoxMarks does bookmarks and Weave will have them in a future release, but the google sync was easy.
well that seems fixed now.
USA time, USA time, AND UTC.
This isn't Highlander - there can be MORE THAN ONE.
Question is, am I supposed to download it yet? I have no idea.
No sig today...
Go to about:config Add this as boolean 'extensions.checkCompatibility' with value false. Restart
Mac Operating Systems
* Mac OS X 10.4 and later
This makes me cry a little inside. (Running 10.3.9)
What, me Tweet?
According to the forum here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&p=3435575
RC3/RC2 and the 3.0 release are all the SAME for windows and linux. It just got respun for OSX (only) for an OSX bug(!)
So under windows the about: page should read:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0
-WolfWithoutAClause
"Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"Windows Firefox 3 runs fine under Wine 1.0 though.
I've been using the final version since March 2008. It came with $5 Windows XP Pro disk from Asia. WTF !?!
And then I had to uninstall and go find FF2 because AdBlock, AutoCopy, and AllInOne Gestures don't have updates. Unfortunately I chose to "find updates for extensions" during install. So I had to go find the old versions of the four extensions that did update and are not forward compatible. You think I would've learned: same thing happened with the 1.5>2.0 switch. For FireFox 4 I will try to remember to backup my profile folder first...I really need a place for long-term notes.
damaged by dogma
The servers will be hammered enough trying to handle everyone downloading to break the world record
Now this story has been posted on Slashdot they've got no chance!
"We live in a global world" - Harvey Pitt, former Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman
Granted, situations like the Debian ssh/ssl mess can and do slip through the mostly-anarchic seti-at-home-like distributed-audit that many of us engage in. Nothing's perfect and there are no silver bullets for software development. Nevertheless, having the code increases the chance that some of us will stumble across and help fix more problems. Just because something isn't perfect, that doesn't mean its not better than the alternatives. I am reminded of a nifty story about Ken Thompson's login hack. The idea (in Ken Thompson's supposed hack) that the compiler can "recognize" the code for itself and for login is silly in today's world. It can work for very limited versions of "recognize", but beyond that, it devolves into an exercise in futility and/or magical thinking. AI isn't that good yet, and even if it were, the amount of code required to actually recognize source for a compiler that is under constant modification would be so large that it couldn't possibly hope to be hidden for long.
Many years ago, I built GCC using a C interpreter, and then used the interpreted version of GCC to rebuild the compiler. It took a long time (and I mostly did it to exercise the interpreter), but the result was a binary that was identical to one built with a compiled version of GCC. Ken Thompson's hack may still live somewhere (assuming it ever really did exist anywhere), but it isn't on GCC-based systems (like Linux). And, until the Singularity, yes, we pretty much can prove it.
I was amazed that I got through at all though. I figured it would be DDOS'd for the whole day! As it was it took me about an hour to finally get through. I am missing 3 or four extensions and about as many themes,but fortunately the most important to me,Noscript and Adblock and Download helper all are working perfectly out of the box. I have to say the new Firefox is really nice and surprisingly not bloated. If any FF developers read this: Great Job Guys!
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
I got that earlier, but it's working now. This is posted with 3.0.
duh!
No sig today...
Let's make a single download into multiple downloads/installations/troubleshoots.
No sig today...
It looks as if they will not only set the Guiness record, it may even crack 100-times the record!
Firefox FTW!
(Disclaimer: Current record == 0)
It does appear that the Ubuntu repos are updated with FF3, does pulling from here 'count' as part of their 'download day' thingy?
I really don't care either way, just curious. I'm also pulling a bunch of OOo updates and Wine 1.0 final from the WineHQ repo.
I look back at the days of trying to keep up with software updates with Windows and just laugh. Apt has made such chores child's play, and something I no longer dread. 4 commands from the prompt or a simple GUI tool, and every bit of software on my machine is updated.
When the most usable theme I can find for it is one with cats in it. The only other choices are the godawful default theme (who thought those tabs were good looking?) or ten dozen more who think all windows should either be black or look like a Mac.
How's this for a radical idea: A theme which looks like the rest of the operating system it's running on?
On Firefox 2 there was "winestripe" but that's dead now.
No sig today...
You sound like my CEO
Advanced users are users too!
wget --timeout 2 -c "http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US"
rm firefox-3.0.*
It'll break your add-ons. Well, not all of them, but enough to produce problems. You can't install 3.0 alongside your 2.0 browser - there is some weird and stupid interaction which means even if you install it in separate directories, it will still kill your extensions. The new 3.0 extensions won't work if you try and start or retrograde to 2.0. I'm unimpressed. Hey developers: What is your obsession with breaking Add-ons? PS. It'll also log you out of all your web sites. What a complete pain in the ass!
I knew Mozilla was attempting to beat the world record, so wondered to myself why they didn't make it an automatic update from firefox2 -> firefox3. I then found out it would not be compatible with all OS, including windows 98, and some of the plug-ins (as I have personally experienced) will not work without a few tweaks, if at all. It is a pain in the ass they didn't but I guess that is how it is. As a web developer it is the bane of my existence to ensure that a website looks and functions correctly in ie5, ie6, ie7, opera, safari and firefox .. now I have to worry about firefox2 and firefox3 .. *sigh*
Mozilla Firefox site not responding in India due to high load on the server I guess,how can one possibly download in this case.I guess they would have expected this and thought they would have sufficient server backup strength.
so, if you managed download at the very beginning 76min, you may need to re-download it to get count in.
What does the scouter say about the number of downloads at 10:01 AM PST?
Seems to take a long time while displaying the following on the status bar:
... ...
1. Connecting to
2. Waiting for
Page rendering, itself, does seem to be quicker than 2.0 though.
IE 6.0 on the same machine is significantly faster downloading web pages. Neither browser is using a proxy either.
Not very impressed yet... I guess I'll have to try an uninstall and clean re-install.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/firefox/3.0/1.fc9/i386/firefox-3.0-1.fc9.i386.rpm
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/xulrunner/1.9/1.fc9/i386/xulrunner-1.9-1.fc9.i386.rpm
You can update to them now:
rpm -Uvh http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/firefox/3.0/1.fc9/i386/firefox-3.0-1.fc9.i386.rpm http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/xulrunner/1.9/1.fc9/i386/xulrunner-1.9-1.fc9.i386.rpm
way to own up the middle east with dls. Almost as much as Canada... Tho i suppose Iraq might have had a chance if they had any infrastructure left... 102 as of now from a nation that had what 20mill?
They are actually advertising Firefox in Japan. I never thought I would see the day a free, open source, program was advertised on TV.
AS for the privacy guide, this is in almost ANY properly written privacy guide, and a legal requirement in this day and age.
For example, if a new government law came into place, regarding privacy and information stored, Mozilla will be forced to comply. Therefore, it is unrealistic, and unlawful to claim an unchanging privacy policy.
Have a nice day!
1. Setting up a for-profit subsidiary and having a for-profit parent are simply two alternative ways of avoiding taxation and restrictions on revenue-generation and distribution of income. It certainly doesn't matter that money doesn't go to stockholders - neither does it for any privately owned business. The legitimate reason for a company to have for-profit and non-profit parts is the setting up e.g. of a charity that's sponsored by that company - dividing tasks so you can avoid tax when you need to and operate like a normal business when you need to is not. Ask yourself: if Mozilla is operating legitimately as a non-profit, why does it need a for-profit subsidiary?
2. Which web standards? Yes, Safari scores higher in "Acid 3". but in the real world Firefox does do better than Safari (both are generally better than IE). Take this from a developer. You ought to look at an unusually complex page like, uh, google.com on FF3 under OS X - if it can't vertically align text properly with radio buttons and squashes action buttons up against the text field on the most popular page on the web, I think I already give up on Firefox's "real world" performance.
And yes, as you say, it also does worse vs Firefox in benchmarking tests such as Acid 3. But everything does better than IE
3. The code behind it is available under a far more permissive GPL/MPL/LGPL license, and alternative binaries can be obtained for with that license (eg IceWeasel, to name one). Can you do that with Safari/Opera/IE? I don't care if I can obtain alternative binaries under alternative licenses for a different build of a non-identical piece of software. One can also build Safari-like browsers from the WebKit source if desired. AS for the privacy guide, this is in almost ANY properly written privacy guide, and a legal requirement in this day and age. It is a legal requirement in the UK to be subjected to a privacy policy when installing software that may be changed at any time and that it's my responsibility to frequently check for any changes? Erm.. no. I reserve all my rights under the Data Protection Act, and if the government amends the Act in such a way as to force particular organisations to collect particular data then of course they must comply (if they wish to remain within the law) - and to suggest that the reason for that comment on privacy policy is merely in anticipation of an overarching change in law, rather than to give the organisation the opportunity to change its policy voluntarily, is intellectually dishonest.
As a software author I might as well include half a dozen terms "anticipating" any number of laws that might be introduced by giving me excessive authority in advance in case I need help with compliance.