I mangled that post. Left out "timing attacks", i.e. a modified firmware may use shorter/longer time on certain function (games will likely be executed from HDD, so there will be opportunities to see if things happen too fast or slow.)
My main point however was that Sony needs an effective way of banning consoles without hurting legitimate users. If console IDs can be spoofed then Sony might not have the luxury of banning.
Isn't this easier to detect than the compromised key of PS3 ?
The compromised key is not enough to play pirated games. You will also need modified firmware, and while modified firmware can hide that it's modified, it’s not entirely trivial. Sony will probably be looking into ways of detecting modified firmware.
And do they have any legal stand that forbids you from running homebrew ?
I do not think they can legally disable your console, but they can legally ban you from PSN (whenever you mod your console or not).
I can think of some ways to detect pirated games, but i think it would be far fetched.
Blue-ray disk may have unique serials, if so they can detect if multiple consoles use the same serial.
you almost certainly won't be doing online play on pirated games
From the summary: "Sony won't be able to easily detect hacked consoles".
To prevent online play Sony will need to determine if the console is compromised. This isn't entirely trivial. MS manages somehow but I believe it takes about month or so before they catch you.
Note that if you hack a Xbox 360 to play pirated games, and then play a legal game online, you'll still be blocked/banned if discovered.
Children can suffer things like "lazy eye" and neither Sony or Nintendo wants to be hit by a lawsuit indicating that their newfangled product was responsible, even if it isn't the case. Thus they preemptively warn about letting developing children use the product.
It's in a similar vein to how radio enthusiasts set up their antennas unpowered at first so that they can tell "radio sensitives" where to show it.
My concern was on the use of the term Macro-evolution. I don't have any interest in convincing you of my POV. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
For my beliefs, I stared out as a Christian protestant. Went through "Confirmation" (I'm not English so I'm not sure if that's what you call it), and come to think of it I'm still a member of the state church.
It wasn't until my twenties that I put any real thought on the matter however. I can't say when I made the transition, as it wasn't a life changing moment for me, but at some point someone ask me if I was Christian and I said no.
It wasn't "evolution" or any specific thing I can point at as the foundation for my beliefs. I've read science related articles from before my first day at school but I've only found real interest in evolution in the last two years or so.
One thing I can say for certain is that I don't believe in an afterlife. Even when I was Christian (or at least called myself that) I didn't believe in an afterlife. Perhaps that's the main reason I've left the religion, an afterlife doesn’t make sense to me. Why cry at funerals, for instance, if you're just going to meet up with them later?
I loved those little sound clips. "Harkonnen unit approaching" cue battle music. "Atreides building destroyed". Me stresses sending tanks to get those rocket launchers while keeping the line intact from siege tank attacks.
C&C and later games never quite captured those moments.
That's a good point. I played Keen4 after SMW, but the games were actually released around the same time. Had I played Keen4 first my opinion might have differed, SMW is a longer game though and has a nicer ending and end boss.
Same as you I found the Alex Kids and Sonic games less enjoyable than Keen4.
What did blow me away, however, was Keen 4 (Secret of the Oracle), which came out a year later. This was a huge leap forwards in terms of graphics and sound.
Yeah. It wasn't quite as good or pretty as Super Mario World (had a SNES) but close enough. Jazz Jackrabbit was another good one, though I've only played the demo.
Take a look at the episodes from the "full" version that I never saw in my youth.
Don't. Haven't played them myself but the consensus seems to be that they're not as good.
I don't want to move onto the topic of gradual evolution; would have to start digging up articles on "common decent" etc.:-) So I'll ignore that. It is a fun topic though.
Anyway, the bigger point here (I think) is that you see a hole in the explanation and wonder why we atheists either don't see them or don't balk on them.
On the latter it's because we (or some of us at least) are fully ready to accept that no theory, whenever about evolution or gravity, will ever be perfect/complete. There will always be some aspect, some happenstance/datapoint that we can't fit or make sense of. Perhaps in a hundred years someone will come up with an explanation, perhaps not, we're fine either way.
I'm not seeing any link posting ACs, but I'm using IE8 and Slashdot is awful on that browser. (IE remembers my Slashdot password, I don't:-)
I see your point of me not providing sources, very much so. I've been reading science related articles from before I could truly read, but I don't keep links or magazines handy. This is the first time I've debated religion on the internet:-)
I find it odd that based your atheism on the ability to understand everything, but I don't mind that you and many others find comfort in your beliefs.
On the xbox 360 they hack the DVD drive as, AFAIK, it's not jailbroken yet.
Now that ARM CPUs is starting to support virtualization I expect to see tougher protection on cell phones, similar to what's on the PS3 and 360, though it's a bit expensive since you need to embed a ROM on the CPU.
I'm currently at work. Not a good excuse but this is just a Slashdot discussion:-)
Best boss I’ve had was actually one of those weird super Christians that travel to power sharing meetings and whatnot, it was hilarious to debate/rill her up about evolution and faith as she was never angry long.
It’s too bad there’s not more redundancy in genes regulating cell death. Anyway you see a system and think "since everything falls apart if I change one thing it could not possibly have evolved."
This is a common anti-evolution claim, and it is not ignored or hidden by “micro-evolutionist propaganda”. I have read articles tackling just this issue, i.e. how complex systems can evolve into a state where removing even a single piece makes it break.
The crux hoverer remains. You see these processes as too complex to have evolved through what you call micro evolution, whereas others disagree. Those that disagree aren't macro-evolutionist however as they don't advocate the macro-evolutionary theory as feasible.
On another note I read my earlier posts. I apologize if I came off as rude, that wasn’t my intent.
I agree. karolbe, who I responded to, claimed that one could download an exe from the Android Market and then dl the rest of the data afterwards (from somewhere else). On appstore all data is stored on Apple's servers, which is what JC wants.
You can distribute only the exe through the Market which will download (during the first run) rest of application data to SD card.
The rest of the data still has to be served somewhere, somehow. Different methods may yield better result but does not solve the fundamental problem JC touched on.
In order for any morphological feature to "evolve", there have to be a large number of new genes that simultaneously created.
This statement is perhaps the crux of the issue between us. Evolution work by small increments, we agree on that, evolution don't work on big increments, we also agree on that, but you are of the opinion that there are genetic structures that could only be achieved through large increments (i.e. macro evolution) while the people you bill as "macro evolutionists" don't agree – and I'm objecting to you calling them "macro evolutionists".
there have to be a large number of new genes that simultaneously created
No it does not. Delete the word simultaneously and we're in agreement.
Defining what can and cannot be a new species is not a trivial affair, but generally one can say that species can't interbreed. Anyway I've seen the "ALWAYS achieved by deletion or disabling" claim before and I've also seen it debunked. I.e. added/enabled instead of just deletion/disabled.
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I mangled that post. Left out "timing attacks", i.e. a modified firmware may use shorter/longer time on certain function (games will likely be executed from HDD, so there will be opportunities to see if things happen too fast or slow.)
My main point however was that Sony needs an effective way of banning consoles without hurting legitimate users. If console IDs can be spoofed then Sony might not have the luxury of banning.
The way I think it can happen is:
1. Sony finds some way to detect that your firmware is modified.
2. Consoles are banned.
3. Hackers respond.
Then it cycles back to 1.
Though this only has value if hackers can't easily fake the uinique ID of the console.
Isn't this easier to detect than the compromised key of PS3 ?
The compromised key is not enough to play pirated games. You will also need modified firmware, and while modified firmware can hide that it's modified, it’s not entirely trivial. Sony will probably be looking into ways of detecting modified firmware.
And do they have any legal stand that forbids you from running homebrew ?
I do not think they can legally disable your console, but they can legally ban you from PSN (whenever you mod your console or not).
I can think of some ways to detect pirated games, but i think it would be far fetched.
Blue-ray disk may have unique serials, if so they can detect if multiple consoles use the same serial.
you almost certainly won't be doing online play on pirated games
From the summary: "Sony won't be able to easily detect hacked consoles".
To prevent online play Sony will need to determine if the console is compromised. This isn't entirely trivial. MS manages somehow but I believe it takes about month or so before they catch you.
Note that if you hack a Xbox 360 to play pirated games, and then play a legal game online, you'll still be blocked/banned if discovered.
I think it's more likely that your sex drive goes down when you yourself cries. It's not like you're sniffing the poor gal's tears, right?
"stow it" or "shove it", but not "show it".
Hehe. Sorry. In my defense that language of yours is full of similar words with similar spelling.
I will admit that I'm not up to date on the xbox scene, but I believe hacks like that can be engineered away (with future xbox revisions).
This PS3 exploit is final (assuming I read the article correctly). I.e. the security is fully broken. You don't even need to do any hacking.
Children can suffer things like "lazy eye" and neither Sony or Nintendo wants to be hit by a lawsuit indicating that their newfangled product was responsible, even if it isn't the case. Thus they preemptively warn about letting developing children use the product.
It's in a similar vein to how radio enthusiasts set up their antennas unpowered at first so that they can tell "radio sensitives" where to show it.
Cracking the keys was inevitable, but Sony should be recognized for making it more difficult than anyone else :)
The xbox 360 has yet to be fully cracked. They got firmware hacks for the DVD but they don't have "the keys" allowing you to sign xbox software.
;)
I.e. they have not made it more difficult than anyone else
My concern was on the use of the term Macro-evolution. I don't have any interest in convincing you of my POV. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
;-)
For my beliefs, I stared out as a Christian protestant. Went through "Confirmation" (I'm not English so I'm not sure if that's what you call it), and come to think of it I'm still a member of the state church.
It wasn't until my twenties that I put any real thought on the matter however. I can't say when I made the transition, as it wasn't a life changing moment for me, but at some point someone ask me if I was Christian and I said no.
It wasn't "evolution" or any specific thing I can point at as the foundation for my beliefs. I've read science related articles from before my first day at school but I've only found real interest in evolution in the last two years or so.
One thing I can say for certain is that I don't believe in an afterlife. Even when I was Christian (or at least called myself that) I didn't believe in an afterlife. Perhaps that's the main reason I've left the religion, an afterlife doesn’t make sense to me. Why cry at funerals, for instance, if you're just going to meet up with them later?
Enjoy life. It's all you have
I loved those little sound clips. "Harkonnen unit approaching" cue battle music. "Atreides building destroyed". Me stresses sending tanks to get those rocket launchers while keeping the line intact from siege tank attacks.
C&C and later games never quite captured those moments.
"Fremen units approaching"
LOL. Sends the harvesters to squash em'
"Saboteur approaching"
Oh shit. Checks if my walls are intact
"Nuclear launch detected"
Crosses fingers
That must have been painful. Played Dune 2 on a 386sx 16Mhz and the last mission ran like an old grandma with arthritis.
That's a good point. I played Keen4 after SMW, but the games were actually released around the same time. Had I played Keen4 first my opinion might have differed, SMW is a longer game though and has a nicer ending and end boss.
Same as you I found the Alex Kids and Sonic games less enjoyable than Keen4.
What did blow me away, however, was Keen 4 (Secret of the Oracle), which came out a year later. This was a huge leap forwards in terms of graphics and sound.
Yeah. It wasn't quite as good or pretty as Super Mario World (had a SNES) but close enough. Jazz Jackrabbit was another good one, though I've only played the demo.
Take a look at the episodes from the "full" version that I never saw in my youth.
Don't. Haven't played them myself but the consensus seems to be that they're not as good.
I don't want to move onto the topic of gradual evolution; would have to start digging up articles on "common decent" etc. :-) So I'll ignore that. It is a fun topic though.
:-)
Anyway, the bigger point here (I think) is that you see a hole in the explanation and wonder why we atheists either don't see them or don't balk on them.
On the latter it's because we (or some of us at least) are fully ready to accept that no theory, whenever about evolution or gravity, will ever be perfect/complete. There will always be some aspect, some happenstance/datapoint that we can't fit or make sense of. Perhaps in a hundred years someone will come up with an explanation, perhaps not, we're fine either way.
I'm not seeing any link posting ACs, but I'm using IE8 and Slashdot is awful on that browser. (IE remembers my Slashdot password, I don't
Cheers
Sorry, didn't see this response for now.
:-)
I see your point of me not providing sources, very much so. I've been reading science related articles from before I could truly read, but I don't keep links or magazines handy. This is the first time I've debated religion on the internet
I find it odd that based your atheism on the ability to understand everything, but I don't mind that you and many others find comfort in your beliefs.
For what it's worth, God bless you too.
On the xbox 360 they hack the DVD drive as, AFAIK, it's not jailbroken yet.
Now that ARM CPUs is starting to support virtualization I expect to see tougher protection on cell phones, similar to what's on the PS3 and 360, though it's a bit expensive since you need to embed a ROM on the CPU.
I'm currently at work. Not a good excuse but this is just a Slashdot discussion :-)
Best boss I’ve had was actually one of those weird super Christians that travel to power sharing meetings and whatnot, it was hilarious to debate/rill her up about evolution and faith as she was never angry long.
It’s too bad there’s not more redundancy in genes regulating cell death. Anyway you see a system and think "since everything falls apart if I change one thing it could not possibly have evolved."
This is a common anti-evolution claim, and it is not ignored or hidden by “micro-evolutionist propaganda”. I have read articles tackling just this issue, i.e. how complex systems can evolve into a state where removing even a single piece makes it break.
The crux hoverer remains. You see these processes as too complex to have evolved through what you call micro evolution, whereas others disagree. Those that disagree aren't macro-evolutionist however as they don't advocate the macro-evolutionary theory as feasible.
On another note I read my earlier posts. I apologize if I came off as rude, that wasn’t my intent.
Not sure how you're reading that from my posts. I wasn't advocating karolbe's solution.
I think of a fox that's ON FIRE and nothing else. Damn pandas.
I agree. karolbe, who I responded to, claimed that one could download an exe from the Android Market and then dl the rest of the data afterwards (from somewhere else). On appstore all data is stored on Apple's servers, which is what JC wants.
You can distribute only the exe through the Market which will download (during the first run) rest of application data to SD card.
The rest of the data still has to be served somewhere, somehow. Different methods may yield better result but does not solve the fundamental problem JC touched on.
In order for any morphological feature to "evolve", there have to be a large number of new genes that simultaneously created.
This statement is perhaps the crux of the issue between us. Evolution work by small increments, we agree on that, evolution don't work on big increments, we also agree on that, but you are of the opinion that there are genetic structures that could only be achieved through large increments (i.e. macro evolution) while the people you bill as "macro evolutionists" don't agree – and I'm objecting to you calling them "macro evolutionists".
there have to be a large number of new genes that simultaneously created
No it does not. Delete the word simultaneously and we're in agreement.
Defining what can and cannot be a new species is not a trivial affair, but generally one can say that species can't interbreed. Anyway I've seen the "ALWAYS achieved by deletion or disabling" claim before and I've also seen it debunked. I.e. added/enabled instead of just deletion/disabled.