Alright, so having a lifetime of experience with this subject compels me to comment.
This article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception is pretty in depth. (Wow, I totally did write that before I realized the pun)
I developed a cataract in my left lens at 6 months old. At the time, lens transplant surgery was not approved for those under the age of 60. As a result, my brain never learned to utilize that eye. More importantly, it never learned binocular vision. Hence, unless there are some staggering improvements in neurosurgery, I will always be without it.
Of course, having never had the experience I don't really miss it. I assure you, however, that I can tell how far away something is. In reality the only part of depth perception that depends on binocular vision is your brain's own special version of triangulation. All of the other visual cues are more than enough for the brain to process depth.
Lets play table tennis sometime and I'll prove my point.
All that being said: I think that 3d gaming would be conceivable in a program that used 3d models for everything on screen. I don't think I have to tell the Slashdot community how unlikely this is. Or why. And even if it does happen, I'll still be up a creek unless they display it in a way that doesn't require tricking binocular vision.
P.S.- I have a problem: When trying to picture how this would work, all I conjure is my Troll running through the Hinterlands.
Show me where a Linux-related entity created something, within a reasonably short time before they updated their distro/kernal, and it wasn't supported in said update.
That's what we're talking about. Company A has one ubiquitous product that is hugely popular, for years they talk of updating it. In the meantime, Company A creates another product, which can only work as intended with the help of their core product. Is it not reasonable to assume that they, having worked on the core product update for years, would make the new product compatible?
The evidence just keeps piling up. This is not a paradigm shift for Microsoft. Nay, I smell conspiracy!
First they set about programming a more secure OS They are making hardware that doesn't work with their DRM They don't support their online music store They team up with Novell
Watch your backs Geek-America! This is not but an elaborate ruse, meant to lull you into a false sense of security. (No pun intended)
Before you know it you'll be lying on your back, strapped to a Rube Goldberg-esque torture device. But listen carefully, he'll tell you the real plan just before he leaves. Escape and save us all before the one inept gaurd finishes you off with that chair!
I'm glad to see a Blizzard employee frankly address the Linux community in WoW.
Having said that, I don't know that a community moderator really has the authority to make such a claim. Please don't think that I am knocking the CMs. They provide an invaluable service to Blizzard's customers and my heart leaps at the sight of blue in the forums.
Blizzard's real responsibility is to Vivendi, and Vivendi's responsibility is to their shareholders. That's it, end of story, no argument.
"But the customers are what brings share value to the company!" you say.
This is true, but look at it this way: The vast majority of WoW players run Windows or OSX; players are happy partly because there is a stable economy, relatively unaffected by cheaters; the in-game economy determines fairness throughout all levels because it maintains a direct correlation between time spent and rewards; in order to keep the economy stable, Blizzard must work hard to eliminate cheating; If Warden (Blizzard's anti-cheating program) looks at your system and comes back with questions, it is in the company's best interest to ban that account.
If we accept all those things as true, the outcome is inevitable. Because Linux users are a fractional minority of their customer base, losing them all today would not have a drastic effect on Vivendi's bottom line.
I'm certain that Blizzard will make some kind of effort to rectify any error they have made. Hey, we might even feel some love from OSS-friendly people amongst the programming staff. After all, those servers we all know and love are running... wait for it... Linux.
I love WoW, I've been a loyal Blizzard customer since Orcs and Humans. I truly do appreciate the service provided by the CMs, I find them to be a wonderful resource (Yes, even as a hunter.) I just know that the Linux community is not in any way a priority for Blizzard, I feel that it's a point anyone who cares to read this thread should realize.
If it's a success and has good software, it'll be sold out for a year before you can get one. If it's a failure, you'll be able to get one, but the software you bought it for will never materialize.:(
I just want to play FFXIII...
Oh wait, by the time that game comes out they'll have a cheaper, more available console. Yay! At least Assassin's Creed is coming out for 360.
Mexico is never going to be a better place to be a citizen of than the USA. The corruption is so rampant at all levels of civil service that it no longer matters what pressure we put on them as a state.
Even the citizens of D.F. (Mexico City) are stereotyped throughout the country as swindling charlatans.
The real way to stop the massive influx of immigrants is to make the USA an uncomfortable place for non-citizens.
We don't punish people who break the law by illegally entering our country. We don't punish the people who hire these criminals to staff their farm/fast-food joint/household/Home Depot parking lot. We provide for them and their children when they realize that, even in this great country, McDonald's doesn't pay the bills. We school them, treat them, feed them, and house them. It's no wonder we have an illegal immigration problem, we practically have a sign that says "Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos."
These things are never going to change, and here's why:
The people that make the decisions for all of us want them here.
The Democrats want them here because they've taken the side of "Minority Friendliness," and they want those votes. The Republicans want them here because the majority of Mexicans are Roman Catholics, with Roman Catholic values, and they want those votes.
And they both want them here because after they've bred, they and their progeny become bright and shiny American Citizens. Once they've whored out the middle class enough to create one soiled writhing proletariat we will all be equally put-upon taxpayers. And those taxes go to support the only livelihood politicians have, self-promoting bureaucracy.
I'm kind of surprised that two people wasted mod points to get my post to -1. Zero just wasn't cutting it?
I guess I have to spell it out for people.
1) NVidia's eternal beta drivers for *nix are a joke. 2) They never have the full functionality (even compared to running Windows software in OpenGL 3) On that note, its claim to fame is being the first DX10 compatible card. Whoop-dee-friggin-do. Never going to have a *nix driver for that are ya fellers?
Not that I'd ever play for 24 hours straight, but I PAY for 24/7 access to their servers. Putting a limit on time you could be online reduces the value of the service I'm paying for. Even if I don't use the service I've paid for to its fullest, I did pay for it.
Also people normally have much more experience with Windows. That means they have had some basic training at least. Look for people who have never worked with a PC and ask them to install Windows and Linux and see what is better.
No, you won't learn how to manually configure your box if you use this, nor will you really know what was done.
Hint: 99% of users don't CARE, or WANT to do/know these things
The Ubuntu forums are the best community support I've ever seen.
System + Ubuntu + Automatix = Box that does more than your average home system, with an intuitive GUI that is in most ways identical to Windows.
It's not for geeks, but hey, if the world was all geeks we'd already be running Linux everywhere.
3 just seemed like overkill to me. I understand the business sense in releasing a "Collectors Edition." Software companies have been really smart in catering to gamers' need for a bigger cyber-penis. If they release a slightly more expensive version with some shinies they can increase margin, good for them. But 3 versions? Come on now, you don't see that as just a little excessive? Halo 3 Mach Turbo Pwnzor Extreme!! Now with 9 blades!!
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I'm glad someone else's mind went to resonant frequency on this one.
"My new hoverboard was a lot of fun, until my duodenum imploded."
"Lo Wang rather kick ass then solve stupid puzzle."
/Nostalgia
Yeah... me too.
I'm still waiting for 3dRealms to make a sequel to Shadow Warrior...
I thought that they had just forgotten to convert back to metric...
That's it Bill O'Reilly! -1 Flamebait for you!
While we're at it, -50DKP!
Ya Rly.
Alright, so having a lifetime of experience with this subject compels me to comment. This article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception is pretty in depth. (Wow, I totally did write that before I realized the pun) I developed a cataract in my left lens at 6 months old. At the time, lens transplant surgery was not approved for those under the age of 60. As a result, my brain never learned to utilize that eye. More importantly, it never learned binocular vision. Hence, unless there are some staggering improvements in neurosurgery, I will always be without it. Of course, having never had the experience I don't really miss it. I assure you, however, that I can tell how far away something is. In reality the only part of depth perception that depends on binocular vision is your brain's own special version of triangulation. All of the other visual cues are more than enough for the brain to process depth. Lets play table tennis sometime and I'll prove my point. All that being said: I think that 3d gaming would be conceivable in a program that used 3d models for everything on screen. I don't think I have to tell the Slashdot community how unlikely this is. Or why. And even if it does happen, I'll still be up a creek unless they display it in a way that doesn't require tricking binocular vision. P.S.- I have a problem: When trying to picture how this would work, all I conjure is my Troll running through the Hinterlands.
... The one eyed man is up a creek
You forgot about giving violent video games to depressed teenagers. ;-)
Yeah, 3rd party hardware and software.
Show me where a Linux-related entity created something, within a reasonably short time before they updated their distro/kernal, and it wasn't supported in said update.
That's what we're talking about.
Company A has one ubiquitous product that is hugely popular, for years they talk of updating it.
In the meantime, Company A creates another product, which can only work as intended with the help of their core product.
Is it not reasonable to assume that they, having worked on the core product update for years, would make the new product compatible?
The story would be completely in the right if Linus or a Distibutor created a piece of hardware to be released scant weeks before the next kernal.
As evidenced by this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topi cId=47138796&sid=1/
When God, when will you stop the torment of your unix-based children?
But does it run in Linux? Yellow Dog anyone? (If you run it in Cedega, do you get banned?)
The evidence just keeps piling up. This is not a paradigm shift for Microsoft. Nay, I smell conspiracy!
First they set about programming a more secure OS
They are making hardware that doesn't work with their DRM
They don't support their online music store
They team up with Novell
Watch your backs Geek-America! This is not but an elaborate ruse, meant to lull you into a false sense of security. (No pun intended)
Before you know it you'll be lying on your back, strapped to a Rube Goldberg-esque torture device. But listen carefully, he'll tell you the real plan just before he leaves. Escape and save us all before the one inept gaurd finishes you off with that chair!
I'm glad to see a Blizzard employee frankly address the Linux community in WoW.
Having said that, I don't know that a community moderator really has the authority to make such a claim. Please don't think that I am knocking the CMs. They provide an invaluable service to Blizzard's customers and my heart leaps at the sight of blue in the forums.
Blizzard's real responsibility is to Vivendi, and Vivendi's responsibility is to their shareholders. That's it, end of story, no argument.
"But the customers are what brings share value to the company!" you say.
This is true, but look at it this way:
The vast majority of WoW players run Windows or OSX; players are happy partly because there is a stable economy, relatively unaffected by cheaters; the in-game economy determines fairness throughout all levels because it maintains a direct correlation between time spent and rewards; in order to keep the economy stable, Blizzard must work hard to eliminate cheating; If Warden (Blizzard's anti-cheating program) looks at your system and comes back with questions, it is in the company's best interest to ban that account.
If we accept all those things as true, the outcome is inevitable. Because Linux users are a fractional minority of their customer base, losing them all today would not have a drastic effect on Vivendi's bottom line.
I'm certain that Blizzard will make some kind of effort to rectify any error they have made. Hey, we might even feel some love from OSS-friendly people amongst the programming staff. After all, those servers we all know and love are running... wait for it... Linux.
I love WoW, I've been a loyal Blizzard customer since Orcs and Humans. I truly do appreciate the service provided by the CMs, I find them to be a wonderful resource (Yes, even as a hunter.) I just know that the Linux community is not in any way a priority for Blizzard, I feel that it's a point anyone who cares to read this thread should realize.
You know, the first time I saw this joke I ignored it.
The second time, I giggled.
Now that it's been several times I just have to comment.
If your mother was giving you wet enough kisses to get saliva into your system, you had bigger problems than a boo-boo.
If it's a success and has good software, it'll be sold out for a year before you can get one. :(
If it's a failure, you'll be able to get one, but the software you bought it for will never materialize.
I just want to play FFXIII...
Oh wait, by the time that game comes out they'll have a cheaper, more available console. Yay!
At least Assassin's Creed is coming out for 360.
Mexico is never going to be a better place to be a citizen of than the USA. The corruption is so rampant at all levels of civil service that it no longer matters what pressure we put on them as a state.
Even the citizens of D.F. (Mexico City) are stereotyped throughout the country as swindling charlatans.
The real way to stop the massive influx of immigrants is to make the USA an uncomfortable place for non-citizens.
We don't punish people who break the law by illegally entering our country. We don't punish the people who hire these criminals to staff their farm/fast-food joint/household/Home Depot parking lot. We provide for them and their children when they realize that, even in this great country, McDonald's doesn't pay the bills. We school them, treat them, feed them, and house them. It's no wonder we have an illegal immigration problem, we practically have a sign that says "Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos."
These things are never going to change, and here's why:
The people that make the decisions for all of us want them here.
The Democrats want them here because they've taken the side of "Minority Friendliness," and they want those votes.
The Republicans want them here because the majority of Mexicans are Roman Catholics, with Roman Catholic values, and they want those votes.
And they both want them here because after they've bred, they and their progeny become bright and shiny American Citizens. Once they've whored out the middle class enough to create one soiled writhing proletariat we will all be equally put-upon taxpayers. And those taxes go to support the only livelihood politicians have, self-promoting bureaucracy.
I'm betting the first worm is already out there, on someone's harddrive, waiting for the day Vista ships Public.
It's always going to be the same:
The only way your computer is secure is dissembled in a lead box.
I'm kind of surprised that two people wasted mod points to get my post to -1. Zero just wasn't cutting it?
I guess I have to spell it out for people.
1) NVidia's eternal beta drivers for *nix are a joke.
2) They never have the full functionality (even compared to running Windows software in OpenGL
3) On that note, its claim to fame is being the first DX10 compatible card. Whoop-dee-friggin-do. Never going to have a *nix driver for that are ya fellers?
I wish I had mod points so I could give you +1 funny.
Yeah...
Not that I'd ever play for 24 hours straight, but I PAY for 24/7 access to their servers. Putting a limit on time you could be online reduces the value of the service I'm paying for. Even if I don't use the service I've paid for to its fullest, I did pay for it.
I think what the article means is that you have to be a firmware expert. And even that isn't true.
Also people normally have much more experience with Windows. That means they have had some basic training at least. Look for people who have never worked with a PC and ask them to install Windows and Linux and see what is better.
QFT
Ya rly
Ok, I know I'm going to get flamed to all hell for this; but, it needs to be said.
http://www.getautomatix.com/
There, I did it, commence with the flames.
I'll address a few of them preemptively:
No, it doesn't use force-yes.
No, you won't learn how to manually configure your box if you use this, nor will you really know what was done.
Hint: 99% of users don't CARE, or WANT to do/know these things
The Ubuntu forums are the best community support I've ever seen.
System + Ubuntu + Automatix = Box that does more than your average home system, with an intuitive GUI that is in most ways identical to Windows.
It's not for geeks, but hey, if the world was all geeks we'd already be running Linux everywhere.
Wow, so angry.
3 just seemed like overkill to me. I understand the business sense in releasing a "Collectors Edition." Software companies have been really smart in catering to gamers' need for a bigger cyber-penis. If they release a slightly more expensive version with some shinies they can increase margin, good for them. But 3 versions? Come on now, you don't see that as just a little excessive? Halo 3 Mach Turbo Pwnzor Extreme!! Now with 9 blades!!