Apple is competing in a broad and open market that is the point. They just choose how to do it to generate maximum profit. That is simply smart business. You need to recognize sarcasm is all. Or in my comment above... simple snakiness.
Any forum is only as good as the content posted and the level of commentary.
Silly bickering and misguided egos always can drag things down..... just look at basically any political website to see the brainiacs having a go at each other in nonsensical but predictable ways. Seems like sometimes Slashdot, on certain stories attracts such useless banter. But mostly it is fun to read and still has interesting content despite the lame commentary that seems to have surged across our society. Too many internet tough guys unleashed, but still Slashdot has great content and I will always read it.
"Apple can't compete against a broad and open market."
Wait... isn't Apple functioning in the world economy? Did I miss something about Apple being uniquely out of the free market economy now? It would an amazing achievement to make such massive profits given that they are isolated in their own narrow and closed economic system.;-P
PP receives payments for the feds for services rendered. They do not receive money from a budgetary line. They receive money for services under Medicaid and Title X, just like hospitals and doctors who see patients. Pretty certain you wouldn't classify highway building contractors, doctors, hospitals, defense industry contractors as government employees just because the government pays them for services they provide.
"Receiving public money makes your office a public space and the employees — public servants."
Not in the real world or under any law I am aware of. Where did you get that from?
Well some states will have different laws than others. Best know the law if it is not uniform across the states.
How are California wiretapping laws abuse exactly? They are designed to protect those who don't know they are being recorded from those who are recording. I would say the law protects the rights of people to not be recorded without their knowledge.
Don't break the law. If you do you will have some level of consequence in most cases. Pretty certain Delaiden knew he was breaking the law. He was willing to do what he did anyway because he fashions himself a crusader in a holy cause.
They don't receive government funding. There is no part of the budget that is tagged "PP"
What they do is provide services (Medicare and Title X) and bill the government for those services just like doctors and hospitals do. It is just that they cater to the poor across America and provide a ton of services to those who would mostly be turned away in clinical practices. They are a big provider for the underserved. They get a lot of money from services they provide that others will not.
No way to Defund Planned Parenthood" that... that is a moronic phrase.
I took the time to view some of the Full Footage. Some is really really long 5+ hours. Short videos are highly edited and from what I heard in the longer videos... there was nothing damning.
You could do the same but what I have found is that if you think PP is criminal you will hear criminality in the discourse. If you do not, then you won't. Your beliefs will always tinge the watching of videos about abortion in some way.
Multiple investigations did not find criminality. Fact checkers have found significant editing in a way to slant what has been said.
You will either look at that and say it is all wrong or not wrong based on your own beliefs. "Is PP lying? I think it's likely"
You seem to have formulated your opinion with no need for video of any kind. To each his own.
What they were doing was illegal in California under California law and the laws of many other states. States have a right to make laws the way they want and California made such activity illegal.
Their federal funding is contractual. They provide medical services to poor women and men. They bill Medicare/Medicaid.... just like your local hospital or your own doctor when they see a Medicare/Medicaid patient. Most of their funding from he government comes from contractual services for Medicaid and Title 10. AKA. Patients come for services, PP provides said services, They bill the federal government.
Charging a fee for a service rendered does not make them taxpayer funded.
There is no Keep PP running part of the federal budget. They don't get some sort of Block sum. They do get a lot of money for their services because they provide so many services nation wide.
So when people talk about "Defunding PP" They basically are talking about trying to block patients from being able to go to PP for services.
Kind of like saying we need to block your local hospital/doctor from receiving any medical money from the feds by mandating that patients not go to them.
Too much government intervention if you ask me. But then some people are comfortable with the government telling people what they can and can't do.
The allowable exceptions I found are police are able to record in the course of an investigation. Witnesses who are designated to do so by the police are able to record in the course of an investigation.
Luckily you can just go and look the videos up. You don't have to take anyones word for it. But I have looked at a bunch of the full videos and they are very very long. 5 hours plus. It will take some work on your part to do however to comb through it all. The short videos are nothing like the long ones. The long ones are really really really long and boring for the most part.
I will do the easy part for you.... but you will have to do the rest.
Or you can just pick a fact checker with the understanding that they have already sifted through all of this stuff and presented things in a verifiable manner.
Yep... and they aren't funded by the government.... they get fees from Medicare/medicaid for the services they render to poor women. Many doctors won't see patients like these because what they get paid is paltry. An zero abortions have federal funding by law. Those are private donations.
I just worry that this might be a tad premature. Using a phone to drive a desktop might cook the phone a bit. Lithium batteries tend to destabilize around heat I have heard.
Wonder if by making your phone do this you are killing off your phone earlier than it should be dead.
...as harperska presented above, the documents were on an authorized server and an authorized laptop. Perhaps stupidly placed there, but under statute not illegal and thus not criminal since a law was not broken.
I hear this debate a lot and your points seem well thought out and logical. I have yet to hear a cogent argument which would hold up in a court. Most likely there has never been a case because of the easy to understand info you have laid out.
I think my 2012 iMac was assembled at least partially here. Apple has been bringing what they can to the US where it makes sense from a business perspective I think. Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong or have other information.
It is amazing how powerful a dispassionate set of written text documenting every detail over a series of months can be. Then you take the document to your to superiors and explain that because of this harassment you feel the work place is hostile and resign.
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Apple is competing in a broad and open market that is the point. They just choose how to do it to generate maximum profit. That is simply smart business.
You need to recognize sarcasm is all. Or in my comment above... simple snakiness.
Any forum is only as good as the content posted and the level of commentary.
Silly bickering and misguided egos always can drag things down. .... just look at basically any political website to see the brainiacs having a go at each other in nonsensical but predictable ways.
Seems like sometimes Slashdot, on certain stories attracts such useless banter.
But mostly it is fun to read and still has interesting content despite the lame commentary that seems to have surged across our society.
Too many internet tough guys unleashed, but still Slashdot has great content and I will always read it.
"Apple can't compete against a broad and open market."
Wait... isn't Apple functioning in the world economy? Did I miss something about Apple being uniquely out of the free market economy now? ;-P
It would an amazing achievement to make such massive profits given that they are isolated in their own narrow and closed economic system.
Not sure who picked that name.
PP receives payments for the feds for services rendered. They do not receive money from a budgetary line.
They receive money for services under Medicaid and Title X, just like hospitals and doctors who see patients.
Pretty certain you wouldn't classify highway building contractors, doctors, hospitals, defense industry contractors as government employees just because the government pays them for services they provide.
"Receiving public money makes your office a public space and the employees — public servants."
Not in the real world or under any law I am aware of. Where did you get that from?
states rights.... that is what people want.
Well some states will have different laws than others.
Best know the law if it is not uniform across the states.
How are California wiretapping laws abuse exactly?
They are designed to protect those who don't know they are being recorded from those who are recording.
I would say the law protects the rights of people to not be recorded without their knowledge.
Don't break the law.
If you do you will have some level of consequence in most cases.
Pretty certain Delaiden knew he was breaking the law.
He was willing to do what he did anyway because he fashions himself a crusader in a holy cause.
They don't receive government funding.
There is no part of the budget that is tagged "PP"
What they do is provide services (Medicare and Title X) and bill the government for those services just like doctors and hospitals do.
It is just that they cater to the poor across America and provide a ton of services to those who would mostly be turned away in clinical practices.
They are a big provider for the underserved.
They get a lot of money from services they provide that others will not.
No way to Defund Planned Parenthood" that... that is a moronic phrase.
I took the time to view some of the Full Footage. Some is really really long 5+ hours.
Short videos are highly edited and from what I heard in the longer videos... there was nothing damning.
https://www.youtube.com/channe...
You could do the same but what I have found is that if you think PP is criminal you will hear criminality in the discourse.
If you do not, then you won't. Your beliefs will always tinge the watching of videos about abortion in some way.
Multiple investigations did not find criminality. Fact checkers have found significant editing in a way to slant what has been said.
You will either look at that and say it is all wrong or not wrong based on your own beliefs.
"Is PP lying? I think it's likely"
You seem to have formulated your opinion with no need for video of any kind.
To each his own.
Public or private is not the issue.
Two party consent is the issue.
What they were doing was illegal in California under California law and the laws of many other states.
States have a right to make laws the way they want and California made such activity illegal.
Nope.
Their federal funding is contractual.
They provide medical services to poor women and men.
They bill Medicare/Medicaid.... just like your local hospital or your own doctor when they see a Medicare/Medicaid patient.
Most of their funding from he government comes from contractual services for Medicaid and Title 10.
AKA. Patients come for services, PP provides said services, They bill the federal government.
Charging a fee for a service rendered does not make them taxpayer funded.
There is no Keep PP running part of the federal budget. They don't get some sort of Block sum.
They do get a lot of money for their services because they provide so many services nation wide.
So when people talk about "Defunding PP" They basically are talking about trying to block patients from being able to go to PP for services.
Kind of like saying we need to block your local hospital/doctor from receiving any medical money from the feds by mandating that patients not go to them.
Too much government intervention if you ask me. But then some people are comfortable with the government telling people what they can and can't do.
Except no violations by PP upon multiple politically driven "investigation", hence not criminal.
Nothing to see here.
back to you.
The allowable exceptions I found are police are able to record in the course of an investigation. Witnesses who are designated to do so by the police are able to record in the course of an investigation.
The left has no morals?
Broad brush strokes are easy.
Let me fix that for you.
Some people have no morals.
Most people have varying levels of morals
Some people are highly moral.
Doesn't have anything to do with political bent.
Luckily you can just go and look the videos up. You don't have to take anyones word for it.
But I have looked at a bunch of the full videos and they are very very long. 5 hours plus.
It will take some work on your part to do however to comb through it all.
The short videos are nothing like the long ones. The long ones are really really really long and boring for the most part.
I will do the easy part for you .... but you will have to do the rest.
Center for medical Progress videos:
https://www.youtube.com/channe...
Or you can just pick a fact checker with the understanding that they have already sifted through all of this stuff and presented things in a verifiable manner.
Yep... and they aren't funded by the government.... they get fees from Medicare/medicaid for the services they render to poor women.
Many doctors won't see patients like these because what they get paid is paltry.
An zero abortions have federal funding by law.
Those are private donations.
Who are you referring to?
I just worry that this might be a tad premature.
Using a phone to drive a desktop might cook the phone a bit.
Lithium batteries tend to destabilize around heat I have heard.
Wonder if by making your phone do this you are killing off your phone earlier than it should be dead.
From what I can glean you are not a liberal, but possibly a would fashion yourself a conservative. Would that be correct?
"Ad-Hominem attacks are the liberals concession of defeat. The more names they call you, the greater your victory."
Would you say this statement applies to all people or just liberals in particular?
...as harperska presented above, the documents were on an authorized server and an authorized laptop.
Perhaps stupidly placed there, but under statute not illegal and thus not criminal since a law was not broken.
harperska
I hear this debate a lot and your points seem well thought out and logical.
I have yet to hear a cogent argument which would hold up in a court.
Most likely there has never been a case because of the easy to understand info you have laid out.
That show is awesome and this post reminded me of that show in a tangential way.
I think my 2012 iMac was assembled at least partially here.
Apple has been bringing what they can to the US where it makes sense from a business perspective I think.
Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong or have other information.
It is amazing how powerful a dispassionate set of written text documenting every detail over a series of months can be.
Then you take the document to your to superiors and explain that because of this harassment you feel the work place is hostile and resign.