With the way things are going many other places (especially given recent court battles here in the US about children online and privacy and protection), How long until we see tactics like this on THIS side of the Pacific?
With the COPA in the works? Well, I'd say in about 3..2..1..
Seriously though, I'd say you're not being too tinfoil-hattish. The internet is still a privacy haven, and wherever there is privacy, there will always be the potential for those doing or planning something nefarious. As far as the OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! crowd are concerned, this is a serious hole in society.
It would be tinfoil-hattish to say that this will turn us into a police state.
I'm speaking as a moderate liberal. I believe in civil liberties, but I also believe that the law needs to limit these liberties somewhat. The GP obviously doesn't like the law doing this. It's a standard liberal argument to say "raise your kids up with values", but this is the first time I've heard it applied to all law.
Oh man, so you're telling me you invented the "call people sheep/stupid for having a certain opinion" post? I thought you were just another boring copycat, but you seem to be against parroting out the same old crap. You must have invented it!
...an airport that regularly checks wireless credit cards from walking through the door, to boarding the plain.
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Not only that, he also seems to have a keen musical talent. Not just his use of rhythm. For example, listen to the use of harmony in "Hardware Store" on his MySpace page It's an original song and it's fantastic IMHO.
The real mistake was Apple allowing their contractors to use unprofessional tools. In the future hopefully they'll insist on the use of Macs or Linux, or embedded systems.
Bear in mind that iPods still have to run through iTunes through Windows PCs. They can be excused for testing out their release platforms. The real question is, why didn't they take measures to make sure their machines are virus free?
Imagine having to have your fingerprints taken just to enter a pub!! WTF
You're just not thinking far enough ahead!
Imagine that you walk into a bar. You ask the barman for a drink. He produces a biometric scanner to scan your fingertips. The scanner then searches for your fingerprint in a database of customers. Then a robotic arm in a big vending machine produces the glass you used when you last drank at that pub! And since it's only been used, it only gets rinsed, rather than washed with detergent! Think of all the detergent you could save!
See, wasn't it worth that teeny-weeny bit of privacy you gave up?
I agree with you. To drink is still a choice. A difficult choice to say "no" to in some circumstances, but still a choice. And while they have the choice to drink or not drink, I believe they should completely accept the consequences of engaging in a potentially damaging activity. If they don't want the risk the possibility of accidentally drinking too much, and then doing something worse, then they don't drink.
Unfortunately, the alcohol culture is very old and very strong. I don't see full responsibility for crimes committed under the influence becoming standard anytime soon. However, the alcohol culture, like the tobacco culture, is slowly declining with legislation such as this.
I am, however, more than a little concerned at the privacy violation. As they acknowledged, this system has a psychological effect on drinkers. This effect is the same effect that affects anyone who's privacy is infringed. I'm disturbed by the fact that the negative side effect of privacy infringement on people is not a bug, but a feature.
Spoken like a true liberal. To an extent, you're right: the law is a patch-all for society. However, it also sets standards for all citizens to abide by. For example, I could teach my kid to get what he wants, when he wants, at any cost. That's a "value", isn't it? Most of society would disagree, which kinda misses the point of society: working together to change the environment to our favour.
If we can't have standards, then we would accomplish nothing, as we don't know what we value, and we don't have any specific goals. For example, I could really want a house to live in during the snowy winter, but some environmentalist may think that I shouldn't. I could build, he could knock down immediately afterwards. If society had no system of deciding these kind of matters, we would endlessly bicker over such matters, and society would fail.
Got a problem with something, just get together with some of your friends and write a law against it.
IMHO this is the way things should be. Don't like something about society? Propose a law! If you have enough support, it will be so! Isn't that democracy in progress?
Do your christian friends like to push their right-wing beliefs on you?
No. They're quite humble about it actually. Which makes them a damn sight better than the great-grandparent post who is trying desperately to push his beliefs on us.
I am washed and informed about Linux, yet I still use windows. I wonder why? Could it be that such a paradox is causing the space-time continuum to collapse in on itself? Or could it be that Linux has certain compatibility issues with most software and hardware?
Oh, and BTW, some of my friends are Christian. They especially like the community they get with their church group. They get good, polite people (in accordance with "Love thy neighbour"). You might say they are ignorant (assuming you can actually disprove the existence of God), or you might say they are harmlessly ignorant. How exactly does their ignorance adversely affect their lives? And who are you to judge?
That's the sad thing. I have read up about it. And from an old high-school chemistry textbook. It's the truth. The chlorofluorocarbons/bromochlorofluorocarbons diffuse into the stratosphere, where one or more C-Cl/C-Br bond breaks, leaving a Cl/Br radical. Now, from memory, these radicals react with some molecules/radicals in the air, which incorporates the the halogen in a relatively stable radical. However, due to some process in the Antarctic region, with snow in high-speed winds working as a surface catalyst, these radicals break down, and chlorine radicals are released (hence the hole that occurs over Antarctica). I don't know how these radicals permanently escape the ozone layer or permanently stay as harmless radicals, but I do know that the ozone layer will eventually be restored. First of all, we need to wait for the CFCs to do their damage.
We, the human race, are disposed towards creating abominations of ourselves. Abominations that mimic our values enough to complete a purpose, but lack safeguards that we humans rely upon (such as pain, emotion, flexibility, etc). In the Terminator, it's robots. In real life, it's corporations, bureaucracies, and a rigid legal system. They are heartless, they feel no pain, and they have very few weaknesses. But, most frightening of all, they can adapt terrifyingly quickly.
This the reasons why democracy doesn't work for the people. It's not that we don't get what we want, it's that our society is based around powers that have the capacity to dictate what we want.
I won't get concerned until the "Respect for Intellectual Property" badge becomes Eagle-required. At which point I'll personally go down to headquarters and find out what the hell's going on, and tell them to get back to their proper (ie, founding) values.
According to what I read on scout law, this isn't a problem. Look at number 2:
A Scout is Loyal to the King and to his officers, and to his country, and to his employers.
and number 10:
10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed.
Number 2 implies adherence to law (loyalty to country and officers), while number 10 implies adherence to moral code. Moral code, since unspecified, can only be assumed to be the law (the only moral code extensively documented and that applies to an entire country). Basically, scouts promote legal activities. And copyright infringement is certainly not that.
CFCs need to leech from the troposphere to the stratosphere. The troposphere is very easy to travel through, as temperatures decreases as you approach the stratosphere. This allows for the warmer air near ground level to rise to the top of the troposphere, where it cools and sinks back to the ground (which then warms again, etc). This makes sure that pollutants such as CFCs travel very well throughout the troposphere.
However, the stratosphere warms as you go higher. The cooler air down below sinks back into the troposphere, making it hard for pollutants to enter it. The stratosphere is where the ozone is. The only way for the gas to get into the stratosphere is to diffuse very slowly into it, where it can do its damage.
This is why there is such a big hole now. Diffusion into the stratosphere takes many years. Scientists have predicted a peak in CFC levels in the stratosphere around about now. Slowly, all the CFCs we've produced will diffuse, react to become relatively harmless free radicals, and the ozone layer will be restored. Until then, sit tight.
And Bootcamp was absolutely BRILLIANT (bet that will win over a LOT of Windows users and gamers).
And that's it isn't it?
Better looking cases? I didn't care about. Falling prices? I can ignore. Better operating system? I could live without. More security? I could make do. But now that there's boot camp, there is no doubt that the next computer I get will be a mac.
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Seriously though, I'd say you're not being too tinfoil-hattish. The internet is still a privacy haven, and wherever there is privacy, there will always be the potential for those doing or planning something nefarious. As far as the OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! crowd are concerned, this is a serious hole in society.
It would be tinfoil-hattish to say that this will turn us into a police state.
I'm speaking as a moderate liberal. I believe in civil liberties, but I also believe that the law needs to limit these liberties somewhat. The GP obviously doesn't like the law doing this. It's a standard liberal argument to say "raise your kids up with values", but this is the first time I've heard it applied to all law.
Oh man, so you're telling me you invented the "call people sheep/stupid for having a certain opinion" post? I thought you were just another boring copycat, but you seem to be against parroting out the same old crap. You must have invented it!
In North Korea, you crush memes in the attempt not to starve to death
Oh, what? This didn't make it on the list of obligs?
...an airport that regularly checks wireless credit cards from walking through the door, to boarding the plain.
Not only that, he also seems to have a keen musical talent. Not just his use of rhythm. For example, listen to the use of harmony in "Hardware Store" on his MySpace page It's an original song and it's fantastic IMHO.
First, we block out distracting speech
Then, we block out political speech
Then, we block out negative political speech
Finally, the government makes them mandatory
Lo and behold, no free speech.
Not quite NIL interest...
Imagine that you walk into a bar. You ask the barman for a drink. He produces a biometric scanner to scan your fingertips. The scanner then searches for your fingerprint in a database of customers. Then a robotic arm in a big vending machine produces the glass you used when you last drank at that pub! And since it's only been used, it only gets rinsed, rather than washed with detergent! Think of all the detergent you could save!
See, wasn't it worth that teeny-weeny bit of privacy you gave up?
I agree with you. To drink is still a choice. A difficult choice to say "no" to in some circumstances, but still a choice. And while they have the choice to drink or not drink, I believe they should completely accept the consequences of engaging in a potentially damaging activity. If they don't want the risk the possibility of accidentally drinking too much, and then doing something worse, then they don't drink.
Unfortunately, the alcohol culture is very old and very strong. I don't see full responsibility for crimes committed under the influence becoming standard anytime soon. However, the alcohol culture, like the tobacco culture, is slowly declining with legislation such as this.
I am, however, more than a little concerned at the privacy violation. As they acknowledged, this system has a psychological effect on drinkers. This effect is the same effect that affects anyone who's privacy is infringed. I'm disturbed by the fact that the negative side effect of privacy infringement on people is not a bug, but a feature.
If we can't have standards, then we would accomplish nothing, as we don't know what we value, and we don't have any specific goals. For example, I could really want a house to live in during the snowy winter, but some environmentalist may think that I shouldn't. I could build, he could knock down immediately afterwards. If society had no system of deciding these kind of matters, we would endlessly bicker over such matters, and society would fail.
IMHO this is the way things should be. Don't like something about society? Propose a law! If you have enough support, it will be so! Isn't that democracy in progress?
I am washed and informed about Linux, yet I still use windows. I wonder why? Could it be that such a paradox is causing the space-time continuum to collapse in on itself? Or could it be that Linux has certain compatibility issues with most software and hardware?
Oh, and BTW, some of my friends are Christian. They especially like the community they get with their church group. They get good, polite people (in accordance with "Love thy neighbour"). You might say they are ignorant (assuming you can actually disprove the existence of God), or you might say they are harmlessly ignorant. How exactly does their ignorance adversely affect their lives? And who are you to judge?
That's the sad thing. I have read up about it. And from an old high-school chemistry textbook. It's the truth. The chlorofluorocarbons/bromochlorofluorocarbons diffuse into the stratosphere, where one or more C-Cl/C-Br bond breaks, leaving a Cl/Br radical. Now, from memory, these radicals react with some molecules/radicals in the air, which incorporates the the halogen in a relatively stable radical. However, due to some process in the Antarctic region, with snow in high-speed winds working as a surface catalyst, these radicals break down, and chlorine radicals are released (hence the hole that occurs over Antarctica). I don't know how these radicals permanently escape the ozone layer or permanently stay as harmless radicals, but I do know that the ozone layer will eventually be restored. First of all, we need to wait for the CFCs to do their damage.
We, the human race, are disposed towards creating abominations of ourselves. Abominations that mimic our values enough to complete a purpose, but lack safeguards that we humans rely upon (such as pain, emotion, flexibility, etc). In the Terminator, it's robots. In real life, it's corporations, bureaucracies, and a rigid legal system. They are heartless, they feel no pain, and they have very few weaknesses. But, most frightening of all, they can adapt terrifyingly quickly.
This the reasons why democracy doesn't work for the people. It's not that we don't get what we want, it's that our society is based around powers that have the capacity to dictate what we want.
What, me? A dirty joke? Never!
and number 10:
Number 2 implies adherence to law (loyalty to country and officers), while number 10 implies adherence to moral code. Moral code, since unspecified, can only be assumed to be the law (the only moral code extensively documented and that applies to an entire country). Basically, scouts promote legal activities. And copyright infringement is certainly not that.
Here's a brief explanation:
CFCs need to leech from the troposphere to the stratosphere. The troposphere is very easy to travel through, as temperatures decreases as you approach the stratosphere. This allows for the warmer air near ground level to rise to the top of the troposphere, where it cools and sinks back to the ground (which then warms again, etc). This makes sure that pollutants such as CFCs travel very well throughout the troposphere.
However, the stratosphere warms as you go higher. The cooler air down below sinks back into the troposphere, making it hard for pollutants to enter it. The stratosphere is where the ozone is. The only way for the gas to get into the stratosphere is to diffuse very slowly into it, where it can do its damage.
This is why there is such a big hole now. Diffusion into the stratosphere takes many years. Scientists have predicted a peak in CFC levels in the stratosphere around about now. Slowly, all the CFCs we've produced will diffuse, react to become relatively harmless free radicals, and the ozone layer will be restored. Until then, sit tight.
You really, must be new here.
Better looking cases? I didn't care about.
Falling prices? I can ignore.
Better operating system? I could live without.
More security? I could make do.
But now that there's boot camp, there is no doubt that the next computer I get will be a mac.
"Exposed", huh? Shouldn't that be "unveiled", or something like that? Exposing should be reserved for scandles and strippers.
Aww, don't be so harsh. They laid off three directors. They're sorry, and they will, quite obviously, never do anything like that ever again.
...for someone who knows they're so smart, you don't seem to realise that people can have their own opinions and aesthetic tastes.