My bad for my last comment, a little research shows the 360 uses the HDD as a cache if it's there. And I agree, even if Sony were to take away BC eventually, they should do it years down the line when PS2 becomes completely obsolete (which I doubt it will happen within the lifetime of the PS3) and they'd be better off losing massive amounts money now than pulling this.
Well, they're ahead of the curve since they are mixing in a zero BC unit now. Unless of course you refer to "down the line when PS2 becomes completely obsolete" as in "Years after technically superior Hardware is made readily available on the market"... Then that counter would have started the day the Gamecube or X-box (honestly forget which launched first that week) came to market, and they would be right on time.
Your use of "crippled" suggests an extreme bias against the PS3, and is often heard within Microsoft fanboy circles... I've rarely heard "crippled" used against the Xbox 360 Core, even though the term suits it more.
I have heard the core referred to as the "gimped 360", and maybe that's what really should be said of the 40 gig PS3.
Perhaps "Crippled" IS too harsh a term, and "gimped" would be more appropriate. How would a HDD-less 360 be crippled? When referring to the 360 Core you can always buy a HDD and get the Backwords compatibility for original X-box titles. What do you buy for BC on the 40 gig PS3? You buy a PS2! (Ironically for about the same price).
For now though ignore the X-box, let's just compare all 4 versions of the PS3. the 20 gig, the 40, the 60, and the 80... Which is the best? The discontinued 60 gig. It has the most features of any other offering available, and you can always upgrade your HDD to make it a 320 gig PS3 if you like.
Seriously, Don't buy the "Gimpy" unless you have to. The 60 gig is the way to go while they last.
Sure...if there were any games worth buying for it. I've had my PS3 since four days after launch...you know how many PS3-exclusive games I have for it?
Two.
Why only two? BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY GAMES FOR IT. I don't care how much a "bargain" it is when there isn't shit out there for it. I (and many other PS3 owners, I would imagine) am quite pissed that stuff that was supposed to already be released now has a release date of mid-2008 or even simply TBA.
What a fuckin' waste.
Ok, I didn't have my PS3 since launch, but I'm in the same boat. Currently I have a "PS2 that upscales, and plays BluRay movies" while I spend my gaming time $ dollars on the Wii60.
Your "Two" wouldn't happen to be Motorstorm and Warhawk?:-)
Actually, I want to correct you on something. The article is misleading in that respect. When the guy says "memory card ports" he means the Compact Flash and SD card readers that come with the Playstation 3. To use Playstation 1/2 memory cards you have to buy an adaptor [ebgames.com]. It's really a must-have if you use your PS3 for backwards compatibility as well as playing PS3 games.
If you have a bunch of save game files from the PS2, sure it's useful as hell, but must have? Nope. The PS2 Memory card adapter is only needed if you want to upload your prior PS1/2 saves to the HDD, but if you want to simply create new save files, then you just create a "virtual memory card" within the PS3 without having to buy anything else.
Realistically, assuming people thought buying the "Top of the Line Game Console" A.K.A. NES was worth spending the equivalent of $500 (I'm using the number you did, I'm not trying to validate it), why isn't that relevant? Especially when we are discussing how much people will/won't pay for a console now?
Because everything else changed during that time and that changes how much "real value" a game system has for someone today. Many things we take for granted today simply weren't around, or mature, or prevelant in 1985 when the NES debuted. VHS tapes were hugely expensive in 1985 compared to the modern DVD prices without adding inflation. For "the Masses" the Internet basically didn't exist (yes I know the history), Hell there wasn't a prevelant install base for personal computers, broadband didn't exist for consumers (Neither did "high speed 28.8 modems), or 100's of television shows over cable, satelite or however you choose. Spotting cell phones was a rareity... Hell Google is only 9 years old... and these are just technical blurbs, not to mention the political changes...
There are just way too many new options available now and the world is very different than it was 20 years ago so a simple "inflation adjustment" can't make a valid comparison when dealing with technology then, compared to technology now. You CAN say "back in 1985 the average person made (I'm making up numbers here) $10,000 and was willing to pay $250 for this system so they were apparently willing to pay 1/40th of their salary for a NES in 1985. What you can't do (which is the case here)is take that as "a truth" and that going forward people are willing to pay 1/40th of their salary for a game system.
Thank you for the suggestion. This would probably work with most people but my wife really HATES video games. I've tried to involve her in many games over the years but she has no interest in any style computer game. She and I grew up with family board games like "Monopoly" and that's what she likes. I still like "Monopoly" too, but I also like my electronic games.
Seriously, WiiSports is THE system seller. If you can get your wife some place where it is being played it should help a lot. If she plays any of the sports (Golf, Tennis, Bowling) it also helps. My parents have never had any interest in Video games either, and currently they own their own Wii, WiiPlay and Tiger Woods golf.
They were sold on it due to WiiSports. When I set it up, they had fun making the Mii's with everyone laughing, and offering suggestions. We even had 3 generations of my family playing Bowling... We all lost to my 84 year old Grandma.:)
The Wii (and WiiSports) is just another "Family game activity" like the Monopoly night she grew up with. If you can get her in an environment where she can see the camaraderie and interaction of the players she can better understand the appeal.
Perhaps... but families like to watch movies, too. If the rumors about them hyping the Blu-Ray aspect is true, it could dovetail nicely. The PS3 is a really nice movie, streaming media, gaming, etc., box. It could sell to families as an HD movie player. Sony could keep the price at its current level but package two controllers, the Blu-Ray remote, a movie and LittleBigPlanet and move a LOT of systems.
They will move more units, but not to casuals. The PS2 hit traction when the price dropped to $200. "Casuals" aren't going to jump at a game system with "future potential" and a "maybe it takes off, maybe it doesn't movie format". Casuals don't buy $500 Game or Movie Players and Little Big Planet isn't going to change that any more than Microsoft's "Scene it?" will.
Have you noticed the PS2 (hardware) sales lately? They are still selling strong each month, and that's because of price and immediate value. Casuals buy a $130 system and $20 games, because that's what they feel it's worth. Make no mistake Sony's YEARS away from courting a casual audience, at present they need to focus on the hard core as they are the ones who will buy the PS3 now.
On a side note, I do have a PS3 and am looking forward to LBP immensely. It's the game I'm looking forward to most for 2008 (Metal Gear what?). If the community tools to create levels and upload them will are good, this game will have a lot of life to it and I can't wait to see what people come up with.
The product depreciates over time, but the cost can still be measured in terms of relative value, subject to inflation. That comparative buying power is what is being measured. (usually described as "it would cost X 2007 dollars to buy Y." Yeah, buying an NES for that amount of money now would be ridiculous, but you CAN say "People spent X% of their paycheck to buy it". That X% would be the equivalent of a certain amount today. It puts into perspective just how much people were willing to spend.
The parent was stating how the original NES was worth "adjusting for inflation" ~$500 to buy. That's where the comparison needs to stop however, it means that in today's dollars they valued the NES at around $500 in 1985. That's an interestng factoid to come up in coctail parties, but the NES's relative value in 1985 has no bearing on any other system's value going forward, which is where these comparisons go.
Ok. Playing Devil's advocate, if the PS3 were $249.99 right now what game(s) would you buy with it? (IE: on the shelf, right now not coming in 2008 ish)
The original NES was $200 or $250 (depending on the bundle) in 1985. If you add in inflation...
Stop there. Electronics aren't subject to inflation when comparing old models to new models, they get continually de-valued as time moves on. Hell a 286 cost over $2,000 at retail in the 80's not even "Adjusting for inflation..." what's the value now?
The only thing adjusting for inflation gives you is "back then they saw the value of X product was worth Y to them." It does NOT serve as a gauge to tell you what people are willing to pay on product H now.
As far as games go, the Dreamcast had (and still has!) an impressive library of games. Compared to its short lifespan, probably one of the best libraries of any console.
Unfortunately, quantity available apparently beats quality available. Last gen the Dreamcast had the highest average game score of all the systems, and the PS2 had the lowest. Actually the market leader generally has the lowest average game score due to the shovelware it attracts.
If they really want to promote the BluRay playback then a few things need to be done.
1) Make sure EVERY unit going out has Firmware version 1.80 or greater so it can scale content.
2) Include a Remote. (Seriously, when was the last time you bought a TV/VCR/DVD player that didn't come with a remote?)
3) Promote the Free movies. I know every PS3 is eligible for 5 Free BluRay movies by mail, but that should be printed on the box, along with pictures of the titles.
4) Include HDMI cables. Granted, not all HD DVD, BluRay & DVD up converters have them included, but some do and it's an added selling point that would cost them pennies to offer.
What is happening with local co-op ?
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I refuse to buy ANY game without local co-op. The first bomberman for the 360 screwed the crap out of me (though it was my own damn fault I didn't even look at the box before I bought it...) Since when does "multiplayer" omit multiple LOCAL players? My favorite console is still the N64 for that very reason.
I don't know when it started but games are omitting local co-op or multiplayer "in favor" of online modes. Both Crackdown and Motorstorm pissed me off for this reason.
Since you have a 360, and like Bomberman I highly recommend the Bomberman "Live" version. It's FAR better than ZERO, $10 and supports 8 players online or 4 players local. Also if you are a fan of Local Multiplayer you may want to consider getting a Wii (if you haven't already) since that's where it excels most. As a bonus on the VC you can get the Turbo16 Version of Bomberman '93 that supports 5 people locally (you need at least 1 Gamecube controller in the mix).
The PS3 has failed to come through with many great games so far, but they are seemingly it in for the longer haul than Microsoft.
Sony's in for a[nother] surprise of they think the console war is dictated by their schedule. If they think they can milk the PS3 for 10 years without releasing a follow up they are mistaken.
Actually from reports I read, casual gamers really liked it because it was a great interactive movie and also kind of short - just the thing hardcore gamers hate.
The parent post I think is witness of this.
The issue is that as an "interactive movie" it's overpriced. An interactive movie with little to no replay value would do better priced in the $20-$30 range, not $60.
People who bought the PS3 need to look towards the future, and Sony needs a blockbuster hit by Q2 2008 or its sunk. 2008 will make or break the PS3
Wasn't that what they said last year? "Holiday 2007 is the real fight" or something like that? I suspect that the PS3 is already relegated to "GameCube Status". It'll find it's niche this gen and stick around unlike the Dreamcast, but Sony had too many blunders already and I feel that will keep them from reaching critical mass this gen. Today we have the Wii over the 360 over the PS3 and it'll probably play out that way for the rest of this gen. Who knows though; if BluRay gets established as the de facto HD Movie format, maybe Sony's good with that.
20-25 hours in a week isn't that hard.
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Dude, you have way to much free time on your hands! 20-25 hours in a week? That's half a regular work week. Actually, isn't that how many hours people put in at a part-time job? Sounds like you need to get out or get yourself a job man.
How much Television do you watch? Some people are movie buffs, and could watch 1 movie a day. Hell I could set aside a full Sunday to watch all 3 football games depending on who's playing. Not everyone can do that (especially if they have kids) but 2-3 hours per night (in addition to full time employment) is very possible depending on your responsibilities and other habbits.
Moving on to "the next disc" after 10-15 hours of play doesn't bother me. It worked for all the Final Fantasies of the PS1 era, so meh... whatever. What DOES bother me, is why are they STILL doing CG cutscenes? With the in game quality of Lost Odyssey, or any other "Current Gen game" why not use the in game engine to run them? It not only saves space, but makes the experience less jarring/ more immersive.
Hopefully it's a system level issue...
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...if the control issue is the fault of the game developer or the hardware? Are there other games that use the sixaxis feature with precision, or is it just a clunky piece of hardware they tacked on to the PS3 "because Nintendo is doing it?"
It was a peice of hardware bolted on since "Nintendo was doing it", but I don't think it's the Hardware per se. Lair by all accounts controlled badly, and no game I played (Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Motorstorm, or The Super-Rub-a-dub demo) handle with the correct ammount of sensitivity and I end up turning it off whenever possible. Heavenly Sword's "Twing Twang" sections were far more playable using the analog stick, and Warhawk even has the motion controls disabled by default if that's any indication for you.
Not to sound trollish, but It can be done if you look over at the Wii side. Nintendo can get very accurate and sensitive readings from the motion controller over BlueTooth, so there really is no reason why Sony can't.
Maybe Sony went cheap on the motion chip in the SixAxis, or maybe it's the developers not using the tools properly, or issues with how the system itself receives and sends the signals from the chip. Since this seems to be the case across games I'm betting (and hoping) it's a Sony issue with how they interpret commands. I'm hoping it's their problem not because "It's more egg on their face" but because they could fix it in a firmware update and fix the problem for all these games.
If you want to compare both, you need to play both. I do recommend BioShock first however since Metroid simply controls better than any Dual analog FPS could. If you play Metroid first you may you might deduct points on BioShock for a control scheme that was natural before, but now feels "clunky". For the record, I prefer Metroid Prime 3 controls over Dual Analog & PC FPS's.
While mouse sensitivity is still greater than the Wiimote (at least here, but it is a narrowing margin) The Analog stick kicks the shit out of WASD.
Both are stellar games however, if you own a Wii60, buy both.
I think the bigger question is: "Is $200/year towards F@H better spent than $200 towards the Cancer foundatation, or the ACLU, the Red Cross, or whatever your favorite charity is... if you think it is, then fine. But if you haven't asked the question because you assumed the cost was negligible then you really should. F@H shouldn't be receiving your donations simply because you erroneously thought it didn't cost anything.
An excellent point. I personally consider F@H a "targeted donation". I know how much it costs (approximately) and I know what the money is being used for specifically, so it is something I want to support. It's kinda like deciding to donate to the SPCA but instead of giving them a $200 check, you give them $200 worth of dog food, Cat litter and pet treats. Both are helping equally, but you are deciding where the donation goes.
The PS3 apparently runs a sustained 200W running folding @ home. That's 140kWh per month. Assuming a 0.12 kWh rate, you'll be paying ~$200 per year in electricity for folding at home..12 cents isn't high; its much higher in some places (Alaska, California, New York,...), and lower in others like most of Canada, Tenessee, Iowa, etc...)
But running with a.12 kWh, and assuming the "33,000 CPUs" for PS3s means indiviual PS3s, then that's over $7 million in 'donated' electricity PS3's are using for this project.
Now whether $200 represents a good value on the amount of science that's getting done with it is your call to make. Its a good cause, and I have no issue with it.
But for myself, I think there's more efficient/productive uses for the money. Plus I prefer to donate directly and get a tax deduction.
And it irks me that these projects are marketed as using the idle time of your console as if it were free. $100 - $500 a year to participate, depending on power rates where you live is a significant "hidden" cost.
The Folding@Home FAQ does mention it runs the PS3 at 200w while running, but thank you for itemizing what that actually means, so people better understand their contribution. However even if you didn't look it up I don't suppose anyone thought it ran on our belief in Faeries. Also if someone hooked their PS3 up to an alternate fuel source (wind, solar, etc...), you can bet they are in the minority.
So part of the question is "should we work to save humanity, or the environment"? I consciously chose humanity as we should outlive this planet anyway. Even if we don't use up all the resources, or over pollute it at our rate of reproduction we will overcrowd it in a few hundred years anyway, and need to leave.
Now, until they come up with a way to use my Wii to fold proteins (and Dr. Baker has a great lab doing that here at the UW), I'll just use it to play Wii Sims instead.
On a processor level, I must admit the literal hardware of the PS3 is vastly more suited for the calculations involved in folding proteins, so it might be a while, even if there are many more Wii systems being sold.
Agreed. Since the Wii was actually designed to be left on 24/7 I think it would be a great candidate despite being a slower machine.
Not to discredit what Sony has done however. In a year of Stupid decisions, this is one of the shinning examples of a good idea that floated to the top. I hope they encourage its' use by setting milestones (100 WU, 500 WU, 1000 WU etc...) and offer Trophys in Home.
I've only had a PS3 for about 1 month and I keep it on pretty consistantly to fold. About once a week I give it "the night off" (since that system fan is spinning constantly). Since I noticed the Background downloads still work while folding I got to thinking that even when using the system Folding could take please (even at a slower rate). I have a 60 gig PS3 with the EE chip. When playing a PS2 game it is using that chip to play the game so the Cell would be practically dormant. Why not let it "background fold" ? How about a DVD, or a BluRay movie? Playing music of the HDD?
I can't imagine anything shy of a PS3 game (and a big one at that) would be running the Cell full tilt, so why not Add a "Folding@Home" option in system settings and let me chose to add it as a background task?
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Well, they're ahead of the curve since they are mixing in a zero BC unit now. Unless of course you refer to "down the line when PS2 becomes completely obsolete" as in "Years after technically superior Hardware is made readily available on the market"... Then that counter would have started the day the Gamecube or X-box (honestly forget which launched first that week) came to market, and they would be right on time.
I have heard the core referred to as the "gimped 360", and maybe that's what really should be said of the 40 gig PS3. Perhaps "Crippled" IS too harsh a term, and "gimped" would be more appropriate. How would a HDD-less 360 be crippled? When referring to the 360 Core you can always buy a HDD and get the Backwords compatibility for original X-box titles. What do you buy for BC on the 40 gig PS3? You buy a PS2! (Ironically for about the same price).
For now though ignore the X-box, let's just compare all 4 versions of the PS3. the 20 gig, the 40, the 60, and the 80... Which is the best? The discontinued 60 gig. It has the most features of any other offering available, and you can always upgrade your HDD to make it a 320 gig PS3 if you like.
Seriously, Don't buy the "Gimpy" unless you have to. The 60 gig is the way to go while they last.
Ok, I didn't have my PS3 since launch, but I'm in the same boat. Currently I have a "PS2 that upscales, and plays BluRay movies" while I spend my gaming time $ dollars on the Wii60.
Your "Two" wouldn't happen to be Motorstorm and Warhawk? :-)
If you have a bunch of save game files from the PS2, sure it's useful as hell, but must have? Nope. The PS2 Memory card adapter is only needed if you want to upload your prior PS1/2 saves to the HDD, but if you want to simply create new save files, then you just create a "virtual memory card" within the PS3 without having to buy anything else.
Because everything else changed during that time and that changes how much "real value" a game system has for someone today. Many things we take for granted today simply weren't around, or mature, or prevelant in 1985 when the NES debuted. VHS tapes were hugely expensive in 1985 compared to the modern DVD prices without adding inflation. For "the Masses" the Internet basically didn't exist (yes I know the history), Hell there wasn't a prevelant install base for personal computers, broadband didn't exist for consumers (Neither did "high speed 28.8 modems), or 100's of television shows over cable, satelite or however you choose. Spotting cell phones was a rareity... Hell Google is only 9 years old... and these are just technical blurbs, not to mention the political changes...
There are just way too many new options available now and the world is very different than it was 20 years ago so a simple "inflation adjustment" can't make a valid comparison when dealing with technology then, compared to technology now. You CAN say "back in 1985 the average person made (I'm making up numbers here) $10,000 and was willing to pay $250 for this system so they were apparently willing to pay 1/40th of their salary for a NES in 1985. What you can't do (which is the case here)is take that as "a truth" and that going forward people are willing to pay 1/40th of their salary for a game system.
Seriously, WiiSports is THE system seller. If you can get your wife some place where it is being played it should help a lot. If she plays any of the sports (Golf, Tennis, Bowling) it also helps. My parents have never had any interest in Video games either, and currently they own their own Wii, WiiPlay and Tiger Woods golf.
They were sold on it due to WiiSports. When I set it up, they had fun making the Mii's with everyone laughing, and offering suggestions. We even had 3 generations of my family playing Bowling... We all lost to my 84 year old Grandma. :)
The Wii (and WiiSports) is just another "Family game activity" like the Monopoly night she grew up with. If you can get her in an environment where she can see the camaraderie and interaction of the players she can better understand the appeal.
They will move more units, but not to casuals. The PS2 hit traction when the price dropped to $200. "Casuals" aren't going to jump at a game system with "future potential" and a "maybe it takes off, maybe it doesn't movie format". Casuals don't buy $500 Game or Movie Players and Little Big Planet isn't going to change that any more than Microsoft's "Scene it?" will.
Have you noticed the PS2 (hardware) sales lately? They are still selling strong each month, and that's because of price and immediate value. Casuals buy a $130 system and $20 games, because that's what they feel it's worth. Make no mistake Sony's YEARS away from courting a casual audience, at present they need to focus on the hard core as they are the ones who will buy the PS3 now.
On a side note, I do have a PS3 and am looking forward to LBP immensely. It's the game I'm looking forward to most for 2008 (Metal Gear what?). If the community tools to create levels and upload them will are good, this game will have a lot of life to it and I can't wait to see what people come up with.
The parent was stating how the original NES was worth "adjusting for inflation" ~$500 to buy. That's where the comparison needs to stop however, it means that in today's dollars they valued the NES at around $500 in 1985. That's an interestng factoid to come up in coctail parties, but the NES's relative value in 1985 has no bearing on any other system's value going forward, which is where these comparisons go.
Ok. Playing Devil's advocate, if the PS3 were $249.99 right now what game(s) would you buy with it? (IE: on the shelf, right now not coming in 2008 ish)
Stop there. Electronics aren't subject to inflation when comparing old models to new models, they get continually de-valued as time moves on. Hell a 286 cost over $2,000 at retail in the 80's not even "Adjusting for inflation..." what's the value now?
The only thing adjusting for inflation gives you is "back then they saw the value of X product was worth Y to them." It does NOT serve as a gauge to tell you what people are willing to pay on product H now.
Unfortunately, quantity available apparently beats quality available. Last gen the Dreamcast had the highest average game score of all the systems, and the PS2 had the lowest. Actually the market leader generally has the lowest average game score due to the shovelware it attracts.
1) Make sure EVERY unit going out has Firmware version 1.80 or greater so it can scale content.
2) Include a Remote. (Seriously, when was the last time you bought a TV/VCR/DVD player that didn't come with a remote?)
3) Promote the Free movies. I know every PS3 is eligible for 5 Free BluRay movies by mail, but that should be printed on the box, along with pictures of the titles.
4) Include HDMI cables. Granted, not all HD DVD, BluRay & DVD up converters have them included, but some do and it's an added selling point that would cost them pennies to offer.
I don't know when it started but games are omitting local co-op or multiplayer "in favor" of online modes. Both Crackdown and Motorstorm pissed me off for this reason.
Since you have a 360, and like Bomberman I highly recommend the Bomberman "Live" version. It's FAR better than ZERO, $10 and supports 8 players online or 4 players local. Also if you are a fan of Local Multiplayer you may want to consider getting a Wii (if you haven't already) since that's where it excels most. As a bonus on the VC you can get the Turbo16 Version of Bomberman '93 that supports 5 people locally (you need at least 1 Gamecube controller in the mix).
Sony's in for a[nother] surprise of they think the console war is dictated by their schedule. If they think they can milk the PS3 for 10 years without releasing a follow up they are mistaken.
The issue is that as an "interactive movie" it's overpriced. An interactive movie with little to no replay value would do better priced in the $20-$30 range, not $60.
Wasn't that what they said last year? "Holiday 2007 is the real fight" or something like that? I suspect that the PS3 is already relegated to "GameCube Status". It'll find it's niche this gen and stick around unlike the Dreamcast, but Sony had too many blunders already and I feel that will keep them from reaching critical mass this gen. Today we have the Wii over the 360 over the PS3 and it'll probably play out that way for the rest of this gen. Who knows though; if BluRay gets established as the de facto HD Movie format, maybe Sony's good with that.
How much Television do you watch? Some people are movie buffs, and could watch 1 movie a day. Hell I could set aside a full Sunday to watch all 3 football games depending on who's playing. Not everyone can do that (especially if they have kids) but 2-3 hours per night (in addition to full time employment) is very possible depending on your responsibilities and other habbits.
I think the developers at Bethesta would disagree. They fit Oblivion on a DVD9.
You say that as if it's a new thing. Every developer works around a systems' strengths and limitations.
Moving on to "the next disc" after 10-15 hours of play doesn't bother me. It worked for all the Final Fantasies of the PS1 era, so meh... whatever. What DOES bother me, is why are they STILL doing CG cutscenes? With the in game quality of Lost Odyssey, or any other "Current Gen game" why not use the in game engine to run them? It not only saves space, but makes the experience less jarring/ more immersive.
It was a peice of hardware bolted on since "Nintendo was doing it", but I don't think it's the Hardware per se. Lair by all accounts controlled badly, and no game I played (Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Motorstorm, or The Super-Rub-a-dub demo) handle with the correct ammount of sensitivity and I end up turning it off whenever possible. Heavenly Sword's "Twing Twang" sections were far more playable using the analog stick, and Warhawk even has the motion controls disabled by default if that's any indication for you.
Not to sound trollish, but It can be done if you look over at the Wii side. Nintendo can get very accurate and sensitive readings from the motion controller over BlueTooth, so there really is no reason why Sony can't.
Maybe Sony went cheap on the motion chip in the SixAxis, or maybe it's the developers not using the tools properly, or issues with how the system itself receives and sends the signals from the chip. Since this seems to be the case across games I'm betting (and hoping) it's a Sony issue with how they interpret commands. I'm hoping it's their problem not because "It's more egg on their face" but because they could fix it in a firmware update and fix the problem for all these games.
While mouse sensitivity is still greater than the Wiimote (at least here, but it is a narrowing margin) The Analog stick kicks the shit out of WASD.
Both are stellar games however, if you own a Wii60, buy both.
Perhaps you would feel differently if you saw a loved one succumb to cancer.
An excellent point. I personally consider F@H a "targeted donation". I know how much it costs (approximately) and I know what the money is being used for specifically, so it is something I want to support. It's kinda like deciding to donate to the SPCA but instead of giving them a $200 check, you give them $200 worth of dog food, Cat litter and pet treats. Both are helping equally, but you are deciding where the donation goes.
The Folding@Home FAQ does mention it runs the PS3 at 200w while running, but thank you for itemizing what that actually means, so people better understand their contribution. However even if you didn't look it up I don't suppose anyone thought it ran on our belief in Faeries. Also if someone hooked their PS3 up to an alternate fuel source (wind, solar, etc...), you can bet they are in the minority.
So part of the question is "should we work to save humanity, or the environment"? I consciously chose humanity as we should outlive this planet anyway. Even if we don't use up all the resources, or over pollute it at our rate of reproduction we will overcrowd it in a few hundred years anyway, and need to leave.
Agreed. Since the Wii was actually designed to be left on 24/7 I think it would be a great candidate despite being a slower machine.
Not to discredit what Sony has done however. In a year of Stupid decisions, this is one of the shinning examples of a good idea that floated to the top. I hope they encourage its' use by setting milestones (100 WU, 500 WU, 1000 WU etc...) and offer Trophys in Home.
I've only had a PS3 for about 1 month and I keep it on pretty consistantly to fold. About once a week I give it "the night off" (since that system fan is spinning constantly). Since I noticed the Background downloads still work while folding I got to thinking that even when using the system Folding could take please (even at a slower rate). I have a 60 gig PS3 with the EE chip. When playing a PS2 game it is using that chip to play the game so the Cell would be practically dormant. Why not let it "background fold" ? How about a DVD, or a BluRay movie? Playing music of the HDD?
I can't imagine anything shy of a PS3 game (and a big one at that) would be running the Cell full tilt, so why not Add a "Folding@Home" option in system settings and let me chose to add it as a background task?