I'm amazed anyone would be naive enough to expect Linux users to pay for software. Everyone is quick to advocate all the Good Things about open source, but let's face it, most Linux users just want something for nothing.
I think there's even a type of Linux zealot who feels/insulted/ that people will try and contaminate the work of the sainted Linux by demanding money for software.
I applaud all the people with a mature enough attitude to have bought these games, and in doing so supported a delicate fledgling industry. To the rest however, leave Unix to the banks and the Universities and keep on trading WaReZ for the PC your parents bought you.
First off - my PERL is rubbish, but I've been using PHP since 2.0beta.
Seems to me the speed of mod_perl and PHP is effectively equivalent. If you're doing a lot of hard work with a database then the bottleneck is never in the query or processing the data, it's in rendering a great big table in the user's browser.
One may be faster than the other (my money is tentatively on PHP because it's so much more lightweight and written solely for the task) but I think any benefit is lost in either shoving the data down a wire to the client, or the client working with that data.
I'm more comfortable with PHP, so I use it. It's as simple as that.
No, it's not just you. I'm continually staggered by the level of anal-retentiveness over licenses.
If I can download something, play around with it and not have to pay for it then I'm more than happy. But then, I'm easily pleased.
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Very true. Not to belittle his work in relativity and photoelectricty, but how much of his own and other people's time did Einstein waste with his misdirected GUT work, the cosmological constant, and arguing against quantum mechanics?
Everything Einstein ever said or wrote is treated as sacrosanct. Why should his political and sociological views have been more valid than anyone else's because he derived E=mc^2?
Einstein was a great scientist of course, but well known and feted probably because of his memorable physical appearance. We're seeing the same thing with Stephen Hawking today.
To return to the original article though, am I the only one pleasantly surprised that the crank didn't just/eat/ the brain?
There's not really a lot that needs to be said about this article - it's just plain ill-informed.
About 10,000 other people have no doubt already pointed out that Linux holes are plugged more quickly; that MS don't publish vulnerabilities until a) someone else has made them public and b) they have a fix; that modern Unix security holes are usually obscure buffer overflow exploits; that sys-admins tend to pare-down Unix boxes so that it's unlikely they will even be running the programs with the vulnerabilities etc. etc.
But of course Linux people are so/precious/ about their OS that there's no doubt some kind of fatwa out on the guy who wrote this article.
Come on people: he's got the wrong end of the stick. Politely correct him and forget about it.
I'm not really a linux person, but I don't get the big deal about distributions. Aren't they all using the same kernel, the same desktop, the same compilers and, really, the same everything?
Once you've got around the install procedure, what's the difference in, say, Red Hat and Debian?
I pretty much agree with the article. The cross-platform development thing has always seemed pointless to me. No one will ever write anything with it because, as we all known most people use, and will continue to use, IE. Most people don't want the stuff that's held Mozilla up for so long - they just want a quick and reliable browser.
Seems to me someone should rip out the good, core browser parts and build a fast, compliant bare-bones browser. No mail, no news, simple GTK (for instance) interface. Make it as fast and stable as possible and people will love it.
When that's out of the door, then add the "cool" stuff as additional modules/plug-ins. If people want them, they will use them. If not then they don't incur the code bloat or the associated reliability and performance problems.
I've only been playing with it for a couple of days, but Konquerer, which has magically appeared as if from nowhere, seems to blow Mozilla out of the water.
I hope I'm wrong and that Mozilla ends up being the killer app we all hoped it would. But with the best will in the world I can't see it.
How many million lines of code are supposed to make up Windows 2000? By the time they've got something equivalent to NT4 we'll all be using Windows 3000 or something.
Perhaps the salient point though, is "why bother"? There's an old saying that "you can't polish a turd" which seems very applicable here. Come on guys, find something more worthwhile to spend your time on!
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> You suppose that it should be done without
> showing any obvious reason, or what the benefit
> would be?
Err, joke?
So who's going to put Mozilla into the kernel?
I'm amazed anyone would be naive enough to expect Linux users to pay for software. Everyone is quick to advocate all the Good Things about open source, but let's face it, most Linux users just want something for nothing.
/insulted/ that people will try and contaminate the work of the sainted Linux by demanding money for software.
I think there's even a type of Linux zealot who feels
I applaud all the people with a mature enough attitude to have bought these games, and in doing so supported a delicate fledgling industry. To the rest however, leave Unix to the banks and the Universities and keep on trading WaReZ for the PC your parents bought you.
Wow. Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things. Sorry.
I can't believe they called it a Leage and not a Kouncil, a Konfederation, or a Ko-operative.
BTW, I know this is OT, but am I the only one who's a little bit disappointed with KDE-2.0?
better than CygnusEd? I got to get me one of these! Now if only I could run it on a better OS than Workbench...
So where can I get it?
First off - my PERL is rubbish, but I've been using PHP since 2.0beta.
Seems to me the speed of mod_perl and PHP is effectively equivalent. If you're doing a lot of hard work with a database then the bottleneck is never in the query or processing the data, it's in rendering a great big table in the user's browser.
One may be faster than the other (my money is tentatively on PHP because it's so much more lightweight and written solely for the task) but I think any benefit is lost in either shoving the data down a wire to the client, or the client working with that data.
I'm more comfortable with PHP, so I use it. It's as simple as that.
No, it's not just you. I'm continually staggered by the level of anal-retentiveness over licenses.
If I can download something, play around with it and not have to pay for it then I'm more than happy. But then, I'm easily pleased.
Very true. Not to belittle his work in relativity and photoelectricty, but how much of his own and other people's time did Einstein waste with his misdirected GUT work, the cosmological constant, and arguing against quantum mechanics?
/eat/ the brain?
Everything Einstein ever said or wrote is treated as sacrosanct. Why should his political and sociological views have been more valid than anyone else's because he derived E=mc^2?
Einstein was a great scientist of course, but well known and feted probably because of his memorable physical appearance. We're seeing the same thing with Stephen Hawking today.
To return to the original article though, am I the only one pleasantly surprised that the crank didn't just
cool - I'm working on the PERL script now
This story has absolutely nothing to do with Napster, Linux or software licensing issues, and provides practically /no/ trolling potential.
I am apalled.
I liked the line about "little companies like Sun Microsystems" too. Whatever happened to them?
can I put it into hexadecimal mode and make it say "b0ll0c5"?
i) does it have a battery backed clock?
ii) will it tell the correct time after 2038?
iii) how much pr0n can I fit on it?
How long till Microsoft change it?
I mean, once you've installed Linux and Napster, you can't fit much pr0n on a 340Mb hard disk.
There's not really a lot that needs to be said about this article - it's just plain ill-informed.
/precious/ about their OS that there's no doubt some kind of fatwa out on the guy who wrote this article.
About 10,000 other people have no doubt already pointed out that Linux holes are plugged more quickly; that MS don't publish vulnerabilities until a) someone else has made them public and b) they have a fix; that modern Unix security holes are usually obscure buffer overflow exploits; that sys-admins tend to pare-down Unix boxes so that it's unlikely they will even be running the programs with the vulnerabilities etc. etc.
But of course Linux people are so
Come on people: he's got the wrong end of the stick. Politely correct him and forget about it.
I'm not really a linux person, but I don't get the big deal about distributions. Aren't they all using the same kernel, the same desktop, the same compilers and, really, the same everything?
Once you've got around the install procedure, what's the difference in, say, Red Hat and Debian?
Isn't Linux just Linux?
> Is it a joke ?
Yes! Well done!
As usual I can't get the damned thing to run under Solaris.
Another gripe is that though it's fast, stable, full of useful tools, it's still got that too chunky "my first computer" look about it.
GNOME's slower and much less stable but boy it looks good. Come on KDE people, get your priorities right!
I pretty much agree with the article. The cross-platform development thing has always seemed pointless to me. No one will ever write anything with it because, as we all known most people use, and will continue to use, IE. Most people don't want the stuff that's held Mozilla up for so long - they just want a quick and reliable browser.
Seems to me someone should rip out the good, core browser parts and build a fast, compliant bare-bones browser. No mail, no news, simple GTK (for instance) interface. Make it as fast and stable as possible and people will love it.
When that's out of the door, then add the "cool" stuff as additional modules/plug-ins. If people want them, they will use them. If not then they don't incur the code bloat or the associated reliability and performance problems.
I've only been playing with it for a couple of days, but Konquerer, which has magically appeared as if from nowhere, seems to blow Mozilla out of the water.
I hope I'm wrong and that Mozilla ends up being the killer app we all hoped it would. But with the best will in the world I can't see it.
Great! An OS just like Windows, only worse!
How many million lines of code are supposed to make up Windows 2000? By the time they've got something equivalent to NT4 we'll all be using Windows 3000 or something.
Perhaps the salient point though, is "why bother"? There's an old saying that "you can't polish a turd" which seems very applicable here. Come on guys, find something more worthwhile to spend your time on!
oh crap - i made a cheese sandwich earlier and I left the block of cheese in a roughly cube-like shape. Please nobody tell Cobalt.
why isn't there a moderation option of "painfully unfunny adolescent"?