I've been a Fedora user since Fedora Core 3. It's my only OS, and most of my time is spent in front of it (for work and leisure). I was shocked when I discovered Gnome 3 and all the things it "broke" for me and the way I interact with my computer. I felt like my computer had suddenly lost a lot of its value and functionality.
I tried to get used to it, I tried add-ons, I tried Cinnamon, Xfce, Lxde... But nothing felt right. Until I tried KDE. I was shocked to find that it was -or could be made to look and feel- exactly like Gnome 2, but more modern and with a ton of options and cool features Gnome2 didn't have. I'm not going back to Gnome 2.
Or perhaps, just perhaps, people get grossed out whenever you make them sniff a vial of something they recognize as bodily fluids, no matter what kind they are.
As a web developer with more than ten years experience who doesn't use any kind of "IE only" hacks and code, I disagree.
IE wastes time, because it's the only browser that needs extra care, but when you know what it can and can't do properly, you know how to code css that just works on every browser, IE 6 included, without hacks and without extra CSS files for IE.
Writing extra IE-only css code is a sign of incompetence.
Javascript is a different matter, but jQuery takes care of that problem just fine (mostly).
I don't know about lesbians but as for atheists not saying "god damn it" or "go to hell", it's quite easy to find as it's mostly dependent on the language and culture, not the religion. These expressions exist in french too for instance, but they aren't commonly used and sound quite ridiculous and outdated.
- amsn supports video/audio chats under linux. With EXTRA features. (like recording video chat sessions...) - a big part of casual users are not young gamers and do not care about games, especialy people 40 and older, like is the case of my mother.
I'm pretty sure there's nothing more "casual" a computer user than my dear mother, nevertheless, she's been using Ubuntu for more than a year now at home (Installed by my younger brother following my advice on the phone, because he had no clue what Ubuntu was at the time...).
So why the hell do people still wonder if linux is ready for the casual user... IT CLEARLY IS and has been for a while now, mostly thanks to Ubuntu (I'm a Fedora user myself, so no fanboyism here...).
It's not ready for gamers however, but neither is the hardware config most "casual" "mass" people buy.
I switched my mum to Ubuntu (I'm a Fedora user myself, but I find ubuntu to be easier for beginners) a few months ago and she's perfectly happy with it. I gave her a ten minute training over the phone (I live in a different country) and she didn't require any further help.
She barely knew how to use windows so it wasn't difficult for her to try something different.
Last time I had her on the phone she was proud to have managed to rip* a cd and find "the Word thingy" to type her letters, all by herself.
* oh boy, I hope the RIAA won't go all the way to France to sue her ass now...
As a relatively new linux user, I can say that I've seen significant progress in the ease of use and functionality in just one year.
I started with Fedora Core 5, got jealous of some of the functionality of my girlfriend's Ubuntu, and I'm now extremely satisfied of Fedora Core 6 which brought all the functionality it lacked and even great extras I didn't know I needed like the desktop effects (xgl/compiz).
I rolled out linux on my computer illiterate mum's computer, from another country, on the phone, by telling my windows-only using little brother how to download and install Ubuntu (no dual boot, of course).
Cost of the operation => 0 (I don't pay for the phone) Happy linux users => +1
Seeing how awfully slow firefox was on FC5, seeing how awfully late the updates came for it... I switched to Swiftfox, which is an optimized build of firefox... it also has a better logo:p
I'm an experienced web developper (more than 5 years). For 4 years I produced dirty, ugly non standard compliant html using dreamweaver.
Now I've LEARNED what standard compliant Xhtml and CSS code is, the clean one, the one without css mixed with your xhtml... and there's no way I could do anything like that with dreamweaver. The real standard compliant code can only be produced with an experienced web developper and a basic editor that doesn't write the code for you.
Ps : Just because it validates as standard compliant code doesn't mean it's acceptable, clean, semanticaly correct code.
I installed Bad Behavior a few months ago on a community website... for three days. During three days I logged a lot of actual (and logged in) users being blocked... then I tried to spam my own site by using opera and a fake user-agent + elite proxy and I had no problem doing that...
So yes, I guess it has the qualities required to be a good microsoft product.
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I've been a Fedora user since Fedora Core 3. It's my only OS, and most of my time is spent in front of it (for work and leisure). I was shocked when I discovered Gnome 3 and all the things it "broke" for me and the way I interact with my computer. I felt like my computer had suddenly lost a lot of its value and functionality.
I tried to get used to it, I tried add-ons, I tried Cinnamon, Xfce, Lxde... But nothing felt right. Until I tried KDE. I was shocked to find that it was -or could be made to look and feel- exactly like Gnome 2, but more modern and with a ton of options and cool features Gnome2 didn't have. I'm not going back to Gnome 2.
Or you could just use Google Translate and Google Books (to browse dictionnaries). :p
It worked for me and Atramenta
Or perhaps, just perhaps, people get grossed out whenever you make them sniff a vial of something they recognize as bodily fluids, no matter what kind they are.
No, I haven't. I stay away from german porn.
As a web developer with more than ten years experience who doesn't use any kind of "IE only" hacks and code, I disagree.
IE wastes time, because it's the only browser that needs extra care, but when you know what it can and can't do properly, you know how to code css that just works on every browser, IE 6 included, without hacks and without extra CSS files for IE.
Writing extra IE-only css code is a sign of incompetence.
Javascript is a different matter, but jQuery takes care of that problem just fine (mostly).
I was trying to find your website's footer you blistering idiots !
I don't know about lesbians but as for atheists not saying "god damn it" or "go to hell", it's quite easy to find as it's mostly dependent on the language and culture, not the religion. These expressions exist in french too for instance, but they aren't commonly used and sound quite ridiculous and outdated.
Exactly... Why go through the painful technical process of shaping P2P traffic when you can just shape the fuckers face with your foot.
Don't point that to me bro !
- amsn supports video/audio chats under linux. With EXTRA features. (like recording video chat sessions...)
- a big part of casual users are not young gamers and do not care about games, especialy people 40 and older, like is the case of my mother.
I'm pretty sure there's nothing more "casual" a computer user than my dear mother, nevertheless, she's been using Ubuntu for more than a year now at home (Installed by my younger brother following my advice on the phone, because he had no clue what Ubuntu was at the time...).
So why the hell do people still wonder if linux is ready for the casual user... IT CLEARLY IS and has been for a while now, mostly thanks to Ubuntu (I'm a Fedora user myself, so no fanboyism here...).
It's not ready for gamers however, but neither is the hardware config most "casual" "mass" people buy.
Stellarium can do that.
No linux version...
I switched my mum to Ubuntu (I'm a Fedora user myself, but I find ubuntu to be easier for beginners) a few months ago and she's perfectly happy with it.
I gave her a ten minute training over the phone (I live in a different country) and she didn't require any further help.
She barely knew how to use windows so it wasn't difficult for her to try something different.
Last time I had her on the phone she was proud to have managed to rip* a cd and find "the Word thingy" to type her letters, all by herself.
* oh boy, I hope the RIAA won't go all the way to France to sue her ass now...
As a relatively new linux user, I can say that I've seen significant progress in the ease of use and functionality in just one year.
I started with Fedora Core 5, got jealous of some of the functionality of my girlfriend's Ubuntu, and I'm now extremely satisfied of Fedora Core 6 which brought all the functionality it lacked and even great extras I didn't know I needed like the desktop effects (xgl/compiz).
1498 actually, I've done my girlfriend too ! (yeah, both meanings :p)
I rolled out linux on my computer illiterate mum's computer, from another country, on the phone, by telling my windows-only using little brother how to download and install Ubuntu (no dual boot, of course).
Cost of the operation => 0 (I don't pay for the phone)
Happy linux users => +1
So cut the crap already great britain !
OH NOES, look what they've done ! Now all those poor lizards have shorter legs, judgment day is close brothers and sisters !!!
Seeing how awfully slow firefox was on FC5, seeing how awfully late the updates came for it... I switched to Swiftfox, which is an optimized build of firefox... it also has a better logo :p
I'm an experienced web developper (more than 5 years). For 4 years I produced dirty, ugly non standard compliant html using dreamweaver.
Now I've LEARNED what standard compliant Xhtml and CSS code is, the clean one, the one without css mixed with your xhtml... and there's no way I could do anything like that with dreamweaver. The real standard compliant code can only be produced with an experienced web developper and a basic editor that doesn't write the code for you.
Ps : Just because it validates as standard compliant code doesn't mean it's acceptable, clean, semanticaly correct code.
I installed Bad Behavior a few months ago on a community website... for three days.
During three days I logged a lot of actual (and logged in) users being blocked... then I tried to spam my own site by using opera and a fake user-agent + elite proxy and I had no problem doing that...
So yes, I guess it has the qualities required to be a good microsoft product.