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my own kernel, again. --sigh-- Or at least no more kernel patches until I get a change to review just how much cruft got shoved for Android Support. Fucking Google.
Ok, well I will start by killing you so I can have your job. That takes care of the adapting part. As to the rest...
What your Darwinian argument fails to take into account is rate of change. Evolution takes millions of years, what we are seeing now is happening in less then a single generation. Now you can try an compare that to say the auto industry but because those factories were run by lots and lots of people, there was time for the buggy whip makers and dung collectors to adapt wince it just basically moved the work force from one industry to another. That is not happening here.
First of all it is not a "blueprint" for the device, it is a specification for a very secure device.
Second of all no place in the document does it say, "this device uses android"
The references to Android are as follows, all of them:
Requirements Description DC.1 "The Device Configuration and Policy Management service shall be able to determine the configuration of the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2."
Requirements Description DC.3 "The Device Configuration and Policy Management service shall be able to configure the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2."
Requirements Description DC.4 "The Device Configuration and Policy Management service shall be able to configure policy settings for the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2."
Requirements Description RR.1 "The Remediation service shall be able to remediate the configurations
of the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g.,
Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2.
"
Requirements Description LT.1 "The Location Tracking service shall be able to track the device types
and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with
Android 2.2.
"
Requirements Description W.1 "The Secure Disable and Wipe service shall be able to request audit
reporting from the device types and operating systems identified for
use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2.
"
Requirements Description D.AC.1 "The Device Audit Collection service shall be able to request audit
reporting from the device types and operating systems identified for
use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2..
"
So Sorry Android Fan boys and girls nothing in this document requires of specifies ANY Phone running ANY particular OS it simply references some of the features of the Motorola Droid Pro running Android 2.2
The problem with JavaScript, Perl, Python, C++, C#, F# all of them is that they bypass the most fundamental elements of programming and obfuscate almost all of the nuts and bolts in objects and libraries for everything
Take your even above average web monkey and ask them the difference between 16 and 32 bit numbers and they will think you are speaking Latin.
The DOM is one of the worst, if not the very worst, POS to come down the pike and is not for anyonelearning how to program from the ground up. If you want to teach people how to be web monkeys then do that, just don't call it programming.
Step away from objects, step away from GUI's and actually TEACH them how to program, how loops work and interact and how storage works, the concept of variables, when and why and how to use them, global, local, the reasons for and against. The concept of lists, trees, and the things that actualy make all this "pretty" crap work.
Wow that great! All the utility of an actual piece of software with 10 tons on pure garbage behind it.
HTML / CSS just really don't work. You can make flashy pretty things but the problem is they are brittle. Come to think of it I would rather have my eyes boiled out of their sockets with live steam then try and write an actual business app that needs:
A rendering engine that will change based upon the whims ( yes whims ) of a bunch of academics who have more then likely never written production code to do actual work in their entire lives.
An interpreter for JavaScript which is a pretty screwed up language in and of itself and is implemented differently by different browser makers.
The combination of the DOM and JS which has such a fucked up development path that we cannot get the god damn committee to change the spec so that a checkbox returns a simple true or false value instead simply not existing if it is not checked or to get them to classify a text area as an actual text element.
The syntax of CCS is so utterly fucked up that you can create CSS and are quite often forced to, this is so unreadable that it is just as fucked as a regex string that is 300 characters long written by a strung out junky who somehow managed to grok perl and left no documentation and had variables names like $a, $a1, $aa, $aa1.
And people wonder why business is starting to shy away from the whole fucking balls of worms. Standard U/I elements are fine for business and X.Y. positioning works just great as well and that is where we are going back to.
I pray HTML5 manages to become a capable and dominant platform for the sake of both users and developers.
You may pray but your prayers wont be answered. Well they might, but I seriously doubt it. The problem with whole web thing is that it is stateless. It is really as simple as that. There are tons of kludges to try an imitate a statefull connection but they are all hap hazard and only barely effective. The other problem are actual data aware components. Sadly even html5 does not address this. There should be a control type that accepts a mask like almost every U/I control built into every OS be it, windows common controls or its equivalent on a mac. There should be grid controls that handle data sources directly.
Sadly none of what is really needed is there. There should be a mode to simply ignore CSS and have things all X,Y addressable and don't act like you are trying to re-paginate a word processing document every time the window is re-sized. The most successful company thus far at leveraging every bit of the capabilities of a browser is sales force and I am here to tell ya there stuff looks pretty rough around the edges.
What needs to happen is that the DOM needs to be fundamentally redesigned to a true object api that instantiates controls and what not. A great example is the OWL api.
So unless Apple has some new superstar designer who can crack the whip of conformity and beat down dissenters across its product line going forward...
Oh I am sure that someone will be cracking the whip. I would bet my fucking house that Steve left someone that he AND the new CEO trusted in charge of this. Apple does not do things by committee as many other places do and do so to their determent.
Your missing the point and failing to understand why "punishment" exists int he first place. First of all lets all take the mindset the piracy of copyrighted work is "bad" so:
If I pirate on single copy of some work then would should be the consequence?
Being made to pay the face value of the work?
Being made to pay the face value of the work and some additional fine?
If I place a "pirated" copy of a copyrighted work on a publicly reachable server and then seed a torent site with pointers to said work then what should be the consequence?
Being made to pay the face value of the work?
Being made to pay the face value of the work and some additional fine?
Since the work can be obtained by anyone and I don;t keep records of just how many time the work was downloaded should I be made to pay the face value of n copies of the work? Just how would you go about estimating n?
Should the "punishment" be formulated to attempt to convince me from doing it again?
In the GPL world in which I am a contributor, I say you may freely use and distribute my work providing that:
You do not remove my attribution ( my copyright notice under the general terms of GPL).
You do not sell my work without my expressed written permission.
You MUST return to me, the copyright holder, all code that changes my code so that I may decide to whether or not to include it in my original code.
If someone violates those conditions what should the consequences be?
Throughout time we have made agreements that dictate the norms of social behavior and we as a society have enforced those agreements with forms of, punishment, retribution, etc. Everything from the scarlet "A" to getting you right hand "removed" to killing the person. I think that for the most part in our modernity we have strove to use the threat of punishment as a deterrent to keep people from breaking those social contracts.
So the question is how do we as a society deter these sorts of violations and what kind of threat is sufficient enough to prevent anyone from doing it? Simply saying he "pirating" of copyrighted works is not against social norms will be rejected out of hand because in point of fact it is because someone worked hard to produce that work or funded its creating as an investment ad deserves the opportunity to realize a return for their investment and labor, if they so choose, without that opportunity being taken from them before the term of the protection from such taking has expired.
The document should have been on the street before it was released.
Google like Microsoft has no style or taste. They are a bunch of really smart programmers but damn few of them know diddly shit about U/I interfaces much less standards.
Android will never have the polish that iOS has and that may be a hard fact for the Android loyalists, but it is a fact never the less.
Every piece of Apple software has a beautifully designed U/I and that is because Steve Jobs had taste and style and that will carry on because he trained his designers to look at history to look at beautiful manuscripts and books.
Good grief who mod'd this insightful and Informative.
it is in point of fact redundant to the post they are commenting on.
If I am the copyright holder of a work, then it is my right to distribute, not distribute, charge outrageous prices for, give away for free or use the manuscript to wipe my if I so choose and no one else's for the term of the copyright.
In the case of a patent then it is my right to manufacture, not manufacture, charge outrageous license fee's, charge no license fee, give away as I so choose and no one else's for the term of the patent.
The tradeoff is that after such term of patent or copyright has expired, then and only then can someone else, in point of fact anyone else, do what they like with it.
Do I like what copyright has been perverted into? emphatically NO Do I like that your can be granted a patent for a business process, once again emphatically NO! Do I like the the fact that you can patent software, yet again emphatically NO!
Is it the law of the land? Emphatically YES! Do I write and e-mail my senators and my congressman making sound and reasoned arguments to get this changed, once again emphatically YES!
Does this do anything towards correcting this abomination? Not so far. Will I keep trying, yes.
I hate to break it to you but your wrong. -5 points you lose!
Most all of the Boeing fleet is mechanical linkage of the yoke to hydraulic proportioning vales. The 777 and on are fly by wire, but hydraulics still move the control surfaces and the proportioning vales are controlled by servo motors that are controlled by the electronic signals from the joy stick.
Was invented by Phillipe Kahn. Say what you will but the man was ahead of his time. Borland made great products and was only defeated by skulduggery by Microsoft and an out and out fraudulent lawsuit brought by Lotus.
I don't see why Android patches that aren't more or less universal...
The more or less part is the bit that worries me. When Novell or Redhat or anyone else submits kernel enhancements or patches they are doing so in concert with many other stake holders. What Google and other less reputable entities want to do is back rev the kernel to support Android specifically an OS unto itself if you will and thus will be Android specific. Android has shown itself to be both pretty buggy and having security issues, even in Ice Cream Sandwich.
No it is most assuredly not! Google does not give a rats ass about the cruft they kluge in as long is makes Android look superior to iOS which it is most certainly not.
I for one don't want half baked Android ( hurry push it out so we can one up Apple's IOS ) garbage in my Linux Kernel thank you.
Android is being pushed by god alone knows how many companies doing their own patches and coordinating with no one. While I am perfectly comfortable with them doing their own thing on their own devices I don't want their kludges to drift back into my server or desktop kernel.
I can only hope and pray that Linus sees his and just tells them to fuck off.
Getting the blueprints is not the hard part, they are easy enough to find. There are multiple Merlin engines in museums and there are current working Merlin's for sale. Getting one of these beasts made as a one off would cost you huge. Bringing up a production line would cost a small fortune.
There is a guy in Northern California who actually purchased the type certificates for the airplane and will build, from scratch, from factory plans and brand new P-51D. You have to find a registration plate for it though. People comb Europe to find them off of wrecked ones since there is a loophole in the FAA regs that allows him to put the placard on the new airframe.
And you don't know what the fuck your talking about you god damn moron!
In the entire state of California there are two (2) airports that have that capability, LAX & SFO that its.
It takes VERY specialized equipment for an airplane to Auto-Land, and no GPS isn't it. Both the ILS and the MLS must be upgraded far beyond the standard for normal IFR approaches with a decision height of say 300 feet.
You don't know what you are talking about so STFU!".
Control Lightning? Really! Control fucking lightning?
I am about as liberal as you can get when it comes to funding science but this rates right up there with Paranormal Research.
We built a 4 foot tall one of these when I was in High School. We used window glass and sheet metal for the capacitor and two pennies for the spark gap and it created a wonderful halo of radiated electricity, lit all the florescent bulbs in the room and it was cool, but a 100' tall version? Just say no. We have just a few more important things to spend our money on eight about now.
You average point -n- shoot has a cheap plastic lens that is just horrible.
Spend your money on the best lens you can afford. You want the fastest lens you can afford, the lower the F number of the lens the more light it will capture.
Most any of the lower priced models of either Cannon or Nikon will be just fine. As your skill in composition and technique grow you can move up to a better body and the lens will move with you.
Well that is not particularly true. OpenSuse has always been their own deal, they just get sponsorship dollars from from Novell, not to mention code. And if you go to the website, is still has Novell's logo on the bottom (c) 2008 and the words "Founded By Novell" I still login with my Novell credentials.
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my own kernel, again. --sigh-- Or at least no more kernel patches until I get a change to review just how much cruft got shoved for Android Support. Fucking Google.
The problem are parents! Plain and simple, you don't have to debate it.
You either make the time and are involved in your child's education process are you are not.
If you don;t involve yourself and teach them that education is valuable from the beginning you are a failure as a parent.
Its just that simple.
Ok, well I will start by killing you so I can have your job. That takes care of the adapting part. As to the rest...
What your Darwinian argument fails to take into account is rate of change. Evolution takes millions of years, what we are seeing now is happening in less then a single generation. Now you can try an compare that to say the auto industry but because those factories were run by lots and lots of people, there was time for the buggy whip makers and dung collectors to adapt wince it just basically moved the work force from one industry to another. That is not happening here.
First of all it is not a "blueprint" for the device, it is a specification for a very secure device.
Second of all no place in the document does it say, "this device uses android"
The references to Android are as follows, all of them:
Requirements Description DC.1 "The Device Configuration and Policy Management service shall be able to determine the configuration of the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2."
Requirements Description DC.3 "The Device Configuration and Policy Management service shall be able to configure the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2."
Requirements Description DC.4 "The Device Configuration and Policy Management service shall be able to configure policy settings for the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2."
Requirements Description RR.1 "The Remediation service shall be able to remediate the configurations of the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2. "
Requirements Description LT.1 "The Location Tracking service shall be able to track the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2. "
Requirements Description W.1 "The Secure Disable and Wipe service shall be able to request audit reporting from the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2. "
Requirements Description D.AC.1 "The Device Audit Collection service shall be able to request audit reporting from the device types and operating systems identified for use, e.g., Motorola Droid Pro with Android 2.2.. "
So Sorry Android Fan boys and girls nothing in this document requires of specifies ANY Phone running ANY particular OS it simply references some of the features of the Motorola Droid Pro running Android 2.2
Teach them how to program first.
The problem with JavaScript, Perl, Python, C++, C#, F# all of them is that they bypass the most fundamental elements of programming and obfuscate almost all of the nuts and bolts in objects and libraries for everything
Take your even above average web monkey and ask them the difference between 16 and 32 bit numbers and they will think you are speaking Latin.
The DOM is one of the worst, if not the very worst, POS to come down the pike and is not for anyone learning how to program from the ground up. If you want to teach people how to be web monkeys then do that, just don't call it programming.
Step away from objects, step away from GUI's and actually TEACH them how to program, how loops work and interact and how storage works, the concept of variables, when and why and how to use them, global, local, the reasons for and against. The concept of lists, trees, and the things that actualy make all this "pretty" crap work.
Wow that great! All the utility of an actual piece of software with 10 tons on pure garbage behind it.
HTML / CSS just really don't work. You can make flashy pretty things but the problem is they are brittle. Come to think of it I would rather have my eyes boiled out of their sockets with live steam then try and write an actual business app that needs:
The combination of the DOM and JS which has such a fucked up development path that we cannot get the god damn committee to change the spec so that a checkbox returns a simple true or false value instead simply not existing if it is not checked or to get them to classify a text area as an actual text element.
The syntax of CCS is so utterly fucked up that you can create CSS and are quite often forced to, this is so unreadable that it is just as fucked as a regex string that is 300 characters long written by a strung out junky who somehow managed to grok perl and left no documentation and had variables names like $a, $a1, $aa, $aa1.
And people wonder why business is starting to shy away from the whole fucking balls of worms. Standard U/I elements are fine for business and X.Y. positioning works just great as well and that is where we are going back to.
ahhh yes do I reply or do I mod... Damit!
I pray HTML5 manages to become a capable and dominant platform for the sake of both users and developers.
You may pray but your prayers wont be answered. Well they might, but I seriously doubt it. The problem with whole web thing is that it is stateless. It is really as simple as that. There are tons of kludges to try an imitate a statefull connection but they are all hap hazard and only barely effective. The other problem are actual data aware components. Sadly even html5 does not address this. There should be a control type that accepts a mask like almost every U/I control built into every OS be it, windows common controls or its equivalent on a mac. There should be grid controls that handle data sources directly.
Sadly none of what is really needed is there. There should be a mode to simply ignore CSS and have things all X,Y addressable and don't act like you are trying to re-paginate a word processing document every time the window is re-sized. The most successful company thus far at leveraging every bit of the capabilities of a browser is sales force and I am here to tell ya there stuff looks pretty rough around the edges.
What needs to happen is that the DOM needs to be fundamentally redesigned to a true object api that instantiates controls and what not. A great example is the OWL api.
So unless Apple has some new superstar designer who can crack the whip of conformity and beat down dissenters across its product line going forward...
Oh I am sure that someone will be cracking the whip. I would bet my fucking house that Steve left someone that he AND the new CEO trusted in charge of this. Apple does not do things by committee as many other places do and do so to their determent.
Your missing the point and failing to understand why "punishment" exists int he first place. First of all lets all take the mindset the piracy of copyrighted work is "bad" so:
If I pirate on single copy of some work then would should be the consequence?
If I place a "pirated" copy of a copyrighted work on a publicly reachable server and then seed a torent site with pointers to said work then what should be the consequence?
In the GPL world in which I am a contributor, I say you may freely use and distribute my work providing that:
If someone violates those conditions what should the consequences be?
Throughout time we have made agreements that dictate the norms of social behavior and we as a society have enforced those agreements with forms of, punishment, retribution, etc. Everything from the scarlet "A" to getting you right hand "removed" to killing the person. I think that for the most part in our modernity we have strove to use the threat of punishment as a deterrent to keep people from breaking those social contracts.
So the question is how do we as a society deter these sorts of violations and what kind of threat is sufficient enough to prevent anyone from doing it? Simply saying he "pirating" of copyrighted works is not against social norms will be rejected out of hand because in point of fact it is because someone worked hard to produce that work or funded its creating as an investment ad deserves the opportunity to realize a return for their investment and labor, if they so choose, without that opportunity being taken from them before the term of the protection from such taking has expired.
The document should have been on the street before it was released.
Google like Microsoft has no style or taste. They are a bunch of really smart programmers but damn few of them know diddly shit about U/I interfaces much less standards.
Android will never have the polish that iOS has and that may be a hard fact for the Android loyalists, but it is a fact never the less.
Every piece of Apple software has a beautifully designed U/I and that is because Steve Jobs had taste and style and that will carry on because he trained his designers to look at history to look at beautiful manuscripts and books.
Either your an idiot who does not get the point, or this is just pure flame bate.
So i ask you, which is it?
Good grief who mod'd this insightful and Informative.
it is in point of fact redundant to the post they are commenting on.
If I am the copyright holder of a work, then it is my right to distribute, not distribute, charge outrageous prices for, give away for free or use the manuscript to wipe my if I so choose and no one else's for the term of the copyright.
In the case of a patent then it is my right to manufacture, not manufacture, charge outrageous license fee's, charge no license fee, give away as I so choose and no one else's for the term of the patent.
The tradeoff is that after such term of patent or copyright has expired, then and only then can someone else, in point of fact anyone else, do what they like with it.
Do I like what copyright has been perverted into? emphatically NO Do I like that your can be granted a patent for a business process, once again emphatically NO! Do I like the the fact that you can patent software, yet again emphatically NO!
Is it the law of the land? Emphatically YES! Do I write and e-mail my senators and my congressman making sound and reasoned arguments to get this changed, once again emphatically YES!
Does this do anything towards correcting this abomination? Not so far. Will I keep trying, yes.
I hate to break it to you but your wrong. -5 points you lose!
Most all of the Boeing fleet is mechanical linkage of the yoke to hydraulic proportioning vales. The 777 and on are fly by wire, but hydraulics still move the control surfaces and the proportioning vales are controlled by servo motors that are controlled by the electronic signals from the joy stick.
Oh my fucking god, don't ever post shit like this again.... I am off to the farm! I am laughing so fucking hard.....
Mod + 1x10^1000
Was invented by Phillipe Kahn. Say what you will but the man was ahead of his time. Borland made great products and was only defeated by skulduggery by Microsoft and an out and out fraudulent lawsuit brought by Lotus.
I don't see why Android patches that aren't more or less universal...
The more or less part is the bit that worries me. When Novell or Redhat or anyone else submits kernel enhancements or patches they are doing so in concert with many other stake holders. What Google and other less reputable entities want to do is back rev the kernel to support Android specifically an OS unto itself if you will and thus will be Android specific. Android has shown itself to be both pretty buggy and having security issues, even in Ice Cream Sandwich.
No it is most assuredly not! Google does not give a rats ass about the cruft they kluge in as long is makes Android look superior to iOS which it is most certainly not.
I for one don't want half baked Android ( hurry push it out so we can one up Apple's IOS ) garbage in my Linux Kernel thank you.
Android is being pushed by god alone knows how many companies doing their own patches and coordinating with no one. While I am perfectly comfortable with them doing their own thing on their own devices I don't want their kludges to drift back into my server or desktop kernel.
I can only hope and pray that Linus sees his and just tells them to fuck off.
Getting the blueprints is not the hard part, they are easy enough to find. There are multiple Merlin engines in museums and there are current working Merlin's for sale. Getting one of these beasts made as a one off would cost you huge. Bringing up a production line would cost a small fortune.
There is a guy in Northern California who actually purchased the type certificates for the airplane and will build, from scratch, from factory plans and brand new P-51D. You have to find a registration plate for it though. People comb Europe to find them off of wrecked ones since there is a loophole in the FAA regs that allows him to put the placard on the new airframe.
Why?
And you don't know what the fuck your talking about you god damn moron!
In the entire state of California there are two (2) airports that have that capability, LAX & SFO that its.
It takes VERY specialized equipment for an airplane to Auto-Land, and no GPS isn't it. Both the ILS and the MLS must be upgraded far beyond the standard for normal IFR approaches with a decision height of say 300 feet.
You don't know what you are talking about so STFU!".
Control Lightning? Really! Control fucking lightning?
I am about as liberal as you can get when it comes to funding science but this rates right up there with Paranormal Research.
We built a 4 foot tall one of these when I was in High School. We used window glass and sheet metal for the capacitor and two pennies for the spark gap and it created a wonderful halo of radiated electricity, lit all the florescent bulbs in the room and it was cool, but a 100' tall version? Just say no. We have just a few more important things to spend our money on eight about now.
You average point -n- shoot has a cheap plastic lens that is just horrible.
Spend your money on the best lens you can afford. You want the fastest lens you can afford, the lower the F number of the lens the more light it will capture.
Most any of the lower priced models of either Cannon or Nikon will be just fine. As your skill in composition and technique grow you can move up to a better body and the lens will move with you.
Well that is not particularly true. OpenSuse has always been their own deal, they just get sponsorship dollars from from Novell, not to mention code. And if you go to the website, is still has Novell's logo on the bottom (c) 2008 and the words "Founded By Novell" I still login with my Novell credentials.