I know. But I never had to use one of those ancient compilers. Still, I am pretty sure the first day I start disabling this particular warning is the day this problem will bite me.;-)
Maybe he really meant this. I might be a bit touchy here, but too often the term 'paid programmer' is used in a context do demean open source hobby developers.
In addition it has been shown that most of the code for the Linux kernel was developed by people who were paid to do it by Red Hat, IBM, Intel and others.
And what does this mean? Paid = better programmers? Funny, very funny. I experienced much more bad programmers who were paid that bad programmers who do their stuff because they like what they do. Paid programmers, who initially were hardware developers, physicist, even biologists, then the business changed and they were told they are now softwaredevelopers. Here is a C++ book, start reading. Some of the computer science guys were not much better. Never coded more than 100 lines of code, but they are the experts with a degree.
So I don't care how many developers in an open source projects are actually paid to contribute. This is not necessarily a sign of expertise or quality.
Attention to correctness is the bedrock trait of a good developer. Everything else comes second; security is just one property of correct code.
I disagree. This is pure lip service. Everybody wants secure code, but nobody wants to pay for it. So I infer that security and quality is not important. Whenever I submit a realistically estimated cost/time plan I can be sure that I won't get the bid. So cheap and fast, everything else comes second, or third, or fourth.
A situation I experienced myself.
Company, which developed medical devices. Project manager: Make sure, that the gui looks nice. Me: Cannot do it, somewhere the is a problem, which causes the program to crash randomly every few hours. Project Manager: No problem. People are used that programs crash. The just start them new. But a nice gui is what sells.
So don't tell me security or quality is in the least important.
...and I don't give a **** for security. I am working as freelancer. As such there a two possibilities: I calculate correctly including all costs for proper design and tests, or I get the contract. Customers pay ****, customers want ****, customers get ****.
Why? According to your own argumentation you could not do anything wrong. If they clearly do not deserve it, it helps fighting against an insane law. If they possibly deserve it, they just get what they deserve. And when I read something like this:
http://www.bakelblog.com/nobodys_business/2007/03/florida_banishe.html
It 'feels' for me totally 'natural' in insanity to slap them down with a sex offender registration.
Vice Principal used a photo taken by the webcam as evidence.
All people who were responsible for this should be labelled for the rest of their lives as sex offenders with all the consequences. Hey, they could have watched the children naked at home. I am not an American, but from what I hear from news, some people got this sex offender stigma for much more ridiculous incidents. In this case it would make sure that something like this would never happen again.
I activated the first option for all my projects. First, I don't care for American laws. I am not American and will never visit Satan's own country. Second, some of my projects use the openssl libs, but they are not included in my projects, so I don't even less.
May I give your advice back to you?
Homeschooling is mainly interesting for minorities, who strongly disagree with offcial line of education. During the Hitler time homeschooling might have been a good idea to spare the kids nazi indoctrination. However, when you see no difference between the governments then and now, you are hardly worth an answer here. In that case you are a fanatic crackpot yourself.
Wonder what brainded fanatic modded you troll. Too bad I already posted in this thread. This is definitely worth an 'insightful' and the 'troll' an abuse.
Thought so. Nevertheless, the statement is worthless. Even the most stupid fanatic would not freely admit nonsense like what I said before. So how do you ensure that something like that does not happen?
I totally disagree. It's the basic right to raise your children with your own views and values
<sarcasm>You are sooo right. I feel so enraged to be denied to teach my children the basic necessary hatred against Americans. How could they ever learn that the highest achievement a person can have is to eradicate Americans in concentration camps? Here is no higher value that that.</sarcasm>
Good reason why I never will visit the USA. I'd probably have the same bad feeling I'd have in China. Or...on second thought...I'd feel more secure in China. If I'd get arrested there, I'd have at least the broad public on my side. If I'd get arrested in the USA I wonder how many would think this must be my own fault since he USA are a constitutional state and by definition the 'good'.
Not gonna happen. To truly get rid of grossly overpaid celebrities (whether they're actors, athletes, whatever) you'd have to get rid of the grossly overpaying audiences. Not everyone's a slashdot geek eager to watch artificial actors.
Hard to say if there really exists a grossly overpaying audience. Problem is that hardly anyone says he is groslly overpaying when he pays $10 to view a movie. But if millions want to see the movie....
And how many would mind artificial actors when the technique becomes that good that nobody can tell the difference?
If they've got to a place where actors can be completely replaced, I think it's safe to assume that by that time every single other profession will have been replaced as well.
I doubt it. Perfect computer graphics won't remove a bad appendix.
Slashdot Mirror
I know. But I never had to use one of those ancient compilers. Still, I am pretty sure the first day I start disabling this particular warning is the day this problem will bite me. ;-)
Maybe he really meant this. I might be a bit touchy here, but too often the term 'paid programmer' is used in a context do demean open source hobby developers.
Sometimes security doesn't matter, esp. with regard to the "internal project" stuff mentioned.
In theory (not in reality) security always matters. You never know when your 'internal project' stuff bleeds into product code.
In addition it has been shown that most of the code for the Linux kernel was developed by people who were paid to do it by Red Hat, IBM, Intel and others.
And what does this mean? Paid = better programmers? Funny, very funny. I experienced much more bad programmers who were paid that bad programmers who do their stuff because they like what they do. Paid programmers, who initially were hardware developers, physicist, even biologists, then the business changed and they were told they are now softwaredevelopers. Here is a C++ book, start reading. Some of the computer science guys were not much better. Never coded more than 100 lines of code, but they are the experts with a degree.
So I don't care how many developers in an open source projects are actually paid to contribute. This is not necessarily a sign of expertise or quality.
There's a good reason for that, and it's not as petty as you think.
100% Agreement. With on exception: No new line at end of file. This warning I hate with all my heart. :-D
Attention to correctness is the bedrock trait of a good developer. Everything else comes second; security is just one property of correct code.
I disagree. This is pure lip service. Everybody wants secure code, but nobody wants to pay for it. So I infer that security and quality is not important. Whenever I submit a realistically estimated cost/time plan I can be sure that I won't get the bid. So cheap and fast, everything else comes second, or third, or fourth.
A situation I experienced myself.
Company, which developed medical devices. Project manager: Make sure, that the gui looks nice. Me: Cannot do it, somewhere the is a problem, which causes the program to crash randomly every few hours. Project Manager: No problem. People are used that programs crash. The just start them new. But a nice gui is what sells.
So don't tell me security or quality is in the least important.
...and I don't give a **** for security. I am working as freelancer. As such there a two possibilities: I calculate correctly including all costs for proper design and tests, or I get the contract. Customers pay ****, customers want ****, customers get ****.
....opening a popup with naked women in it? Error message in a speech bubble? Should draw the attention of at least 50% of all computer users. :-D
Why? According to your own argumentation you could not do anything wrong. If they clearly do not deserve it, it helps fighting against an insane law. If they possibly deserve it, they just get what they deserve. And when I read something like this: http://www.bakelblog.com/nobodys_business/2007/03/florida_banishe.html It 'feels' for me totally 'natural' in insanity to slap them down with a sex offender registration.
Vice Principal used a photo taken by the webcam as evidence.
All people who were responsible for this should be labelled for the rest of their lives as sex offenders with all the consequences. Hey, they could have watched the children naked at home. I am not an American, but from what I hear from news, some people got this sex offender stigma for much more ridiculous incidents. In this case it would make sure that something like this would never happen again.
America has friends?
What happened when you pressed the button?
You will get 1000000 dollars and somewhere in the world a person you don't know dies.
He never said this. I must know, I was there when he did not say it.
I suppose you missed that additionally to subversion or CVS you can activate a whole bunch of other repositories including git in sourceforge?
I activated the first option for all my projects. First, I don't care for American laws. I am not American and will never visit Satan's own country. Second, some of my projects use the openssl libs, but they are not included in my projects, so I don't even less.
May I give your advice back to you? Homeschooling is mainly interesting for minorities, who strongly disagree with offcial line of education. During the Hitler time homeschooling might have been a good idea to spare the kids nazi indoctrination. However, when you see no difference between the governments then and now, you are hardly worth an answer here. In that case you are a fanatic crackpot yourself.
Wonder what brainded fanatic modded you troll. Too bad I already posted in this thread. This is definitely worth an 'insightful' and the 'troll' an abuse.
Thought so. Nevertheless, the statement is worthless. Even the most stupid fanatic would not freely admit nonsense like what I said before. So how do you ensure that something like that does not happen?
I got decent math education out of it,
Let me guess: pi = 3?
I totally disagree. It's the basic right to raise your children with your own views and values
<sarcasm>You are sooo right. I feel so enraged to be denied to teach my children the basic necessary hatred against Americans. How could they ever learn that the highest achievement a person can have is to eradicate Americans in concentration camps? Here is no higher value that that.</sarcasm>
Good reason why I never will visit the USA. I'd probably have the same bad feeling I'd have in China. Or...on second thought...I'd feel more secure in China. If I'd get arrested there, I'd have at least the broad public on my side. If I'd get arrested in the USA I wonder how many would think this must be my own fault since he USA are a constitutional state and by definition the 'good'.
I don't hate it. I just read 'This service is not available in your country' as 'Please use Bittorrent'.
I have seen this one. I did like it. :-D
Not gonna happen. To truly get rid of grossly overpaid celebrities (whether they're actors, athletes, whatever) you'd have to get rid of the grossly overpaying audiences. Not everyone's a slashdot geek eager to watch artificial actors.
Hard to say if there really exists a grossly overpaying audience. Problem is that hardly anyone says he is groslly overpaying when he pays $10 to view a movie. But if millions want to see the movie.... And how many would mind artificial actors when the technique becomes that good that nobody can tell the difference?
If they've got to a place where actors can be completely replaced, I think it's safe to assume that by that time every single other profession will have been replaced as well.
I doubt it. Perfect computer graphics won't remove a bad appendix.
What is it that you do, exactly?
I am software developer. :-)