They do mention in the paper that it's not very different from, say, migration from NT to 2000 or XP. But the reason for the paper is because people think it is *so* much different.
This paper does a great job addressing the non-technical issues (read: end-users) as well too. Very nicely done IMHO.
The thing is, the questioner didn't want the data going over the ssh session as this took more CPU time (to encrypt the data). All he wanted encrypted was his login password...
"Any other outcome means opening the door for more theocratic elements until we wake up one day in a theocracy."
Are you joking? This country started out much more religious than it is today. We've moved much further away from this ever becoming a possibility. In God We Trust on our currency, and court houses is not the government imposing religion on you. If it hurts your child, wait 'til they find something *really* difficult to deal with. Or maybe just lock them in a room and bar them from the world. I'm not apathetic, I just choose my fights. This isn't worth fighting over.
Freedom of religion (if practiced) and freedom from religion (if desired) are two sides of the same coin and cannot be extricated
The thing is, only the freedom *of* religion, and to no state religion are really protected by the constitution. You don't have a guarenteed freedom from all religions where you don't like them.
Find religion insluting? Tough shit. Deal with it. The state does not guarentee that you will like everything.
Though I admit there may be some equivocation on the meaning of "freedom from religion." I mean this as "freedom from seeing, interacting with, or being around religion." Christmas anybody? Large christian holiday. State accepted. In God We Trust on the currency? Swearing on a bible while in a trial? All christian. I don't really have a problem with them either, though I'm of no religion myself.
I really don't understand the whiney "But *I* don't believe in God!" attitude many people have these days. So what? I hate you! Should the state make you illegal? So long as there is no Church of America, I'm fine.
My *point* is that the state doesn't guarentee you the freedom from seeing, interacting with, and in all other ways being exposed to religion. In fact, the U.S. is quite heavily based in Christianity. Sure, there may be a 'separation' at times, but "In God We Trust" is still written on our currency.
But this is *not* a state sponsored religion. Just a state accepted one. There is no "Church of America" (which is what the constitution authors wanted to avoid).
Cry me a river. I have 'no' religion. I said the damned pledge. It never hurt me. My mom told me when I was little not to worry about it, just say the words and be done with it.
Nor do I understand the 'other' side. Make people say 'under God'? WTF? Who cares if they say it or not?
To be honest, I skipped that part a lot as a youth.
Before people start throwing around 'separation of church and state' and freedom of religion, remember that it's freedom *of* religion, not freedom *from* religion. Some groups want the pledge outlawed because it mentions God (heaven forbid!), others want it madatory for the same reason.
Personally, as a heathen (unbaptised agnostic if you will), I don't care. I said it as a child, and it hasn't ruined my life. Nor have I felt the government was forcing religion on me. The pledge is to the US, and our way of life. Not to God. I think the pledge should be said. Perhaps the bit about God removed though (I never understood it myself).
Probably because the minorities in Canada aren't being told that they deserve "reparations" for things done to their ancestors centuries ago. Seriously. The civil rights movement was a wonderful thing, but it's gotten that the pendulum has swung too far.
Why is it that Europeans feel free to intelligibly comment on things in the U.S. they willingly admit they don't understand? I thought the OP rant was pretty good. Some of us are very frustrated by the "rest of the wold" being so haughty and pretentious. Tell me, were the Scotts treated any better in the U.K. than the blacks in the U.S.? How about the Jews in Germany? The Jews in the former Soviet Union? The arabs by the european catholics?
The U.S. isn't the only country that has had racial issues in the past.
Linux won't make it to the desktop because the mindset of the average linux user would be 'set up a different account'. This is not acceptable to most people.
But it was a *Windows* problem that was being worked around. I love how you spin it to be a Linux user problem. What fool told you to give admin rights to a normal user? No wonder Windows will never make it in the Enterprise (where root is restricted to trusted users only).
Your tuition? I assume you refere to UMass? One of the state schools with the lowest tuition in the country?
Sure, it's going up. But I'd rather you pay for it then me (who is not going to college). That's how life works. You want something? *You* pay for it. Stop asking the government to hold you fricking hand.
The problem is that Verisign is doing their wildcarding at the DNS level. This effects the entire *internet*, not just the World Wide Web. So not only do you get directed to their site on your web-browser, but also if you lookup domains for telnet, ftp, ssh, smtp, etc. This causes problem for (among other things) spam filters, who check that your domain exists (well, now *all*.com domains exist) before delivering mail.
Verisign is being extremely short-sighted. This whole deal reeks of a moronic manager who thught this would be a 'wonderful' idea.
If that day comes, you can bet your ass I won't be bitching that the French, British, German, et al aren't doing anything to help me. Perhaps I'll bitch about my *own* country not providing help, but not *others*. I fucking hate how the world expects the good 'ole U.S.A. to be there to solve their problems. Suck it up, and deal with them yourselves. We're sick of helping and then being insulted or attacked by you. Or at least *I* am...
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If a characters got attitude and humor, (s)he'll go far. Take Duke Nukem for instance. How often is he quoted? Best character ever...
They do mention in the paper that it's not very different from, say, migration from NT to 2000 or XP. But the reason for the paper is because people think it is *so* much different.
This paper does a great job addressing the non-technical issues (read: end-users) as well too. Very nicely done IMHO.
I've used them in the past. Never had any problems.
right, so if you use the "none" cipher ("-c none" if configured) you're done.
Would that still encrypt the password though?
The thing is, the questioner didn't want the data going over the ssh session as this took more CPU time (to encrypt the data). All he wanted encrypted was his login password...
Why? Only my login session is encrypted. Netcat just sends data from B to A.
And as somebody pointed out, the second line should read:
Machine b:
# nc machinea 1234 file_to_send
(stupid HTML)..
"Any other outcome means opening the door for more theocratic elements until we wake up one day in a theocracy."
Are you joking? This country started out much more religious than it is today. We've moved much further away from this ever becoming a possibility. In God We Trust on our currency, and court houses is not the government imposing religion on you. If it hurts your child, wait 'til they find something *really* difficult to deal with. Or maybe just lock them in a room and bar them from the world. I'm not apathetic, I just choose my fights. This isn't worth fighting over.
Freedom of religion (if practiced) and freedom from religion (if desired) are two sides of the same coin and cannot be extricated
The thing is, only the freedom *of* religion, and to no state religion are really protected by the constitution. You don't have a guarenteed freedom from all religions where you don't like them.
Find religion insluting? Tough shit. Deal with it. The state does not guarentee that you will like everything.
Though I admit there may be some equivocation on the meaning of "freedom from religion." I mean this as "freedom from seeing, interacting with, or being around religion." Christmas anybody? Large christian holiday. State accepted. In God We Trust on the currency? Swearing on a bible while in a trial? All christian. I don't really have a problem with them either, though I'm of no religion myself.
I really don't understand the whiney "But *I* don't believe in God!" attitude many people have these days. So what? I hate you! Should the state make you illegal? So long as there is no Church of America, I'm fine.
Occasionally I want to make a disk-image to a remote machine (typically sending 6 gig). I use netcat to just send the bits as fast as possible.
Machine a:
# nc -l -p 1234 > file
Machine b (via ssh session):
# nc machinea 1234 file_to_send
Cute turn of phrase.
My *point* is that the state doesn't guarentee you the freedom from seeing, interacting with, and in all other ways being exposed to religion. In fact, the U.S. is quite heavily based in Christianity. Sure, there may be a 'separation' at times, but "In God We Trust" is still written on our currency.
But this is *not* a state sponsored religion. Just a state accepted one. There is no "Church of America" (which is what the constitution authors wanted to avoid).
Cry me a river. I have 'no' religion. I said the damned pledge. It never hurt me. My mom told me when I was little not to worry about it, just say the words and be done with it.
Nor do I understand the 'other' side. Make people say 'under God'? WTF? Who cares if they say it or not?
To be honest, I skipped that part a lot as a youth.
Before people start throwing around 'separation of church and state' and freedom of religion, remember that it's freedom *of* religion, not freedom *from* religion. Some groups want the pledge outlawed because it mentions God (heaven forbid!), others want it madatory for the same reason.
Personally, as a heathen (unbaptised agnostic if you will), I don't care. I said it as a child, and it hasn't ruined my life. Nor have I felt the government was forcing religion on me. The pledge is to the US, and our way of life. Not to God. I think the pledge should be said. Perhaps the bit about God removed though (I never understood it myself).
Probably because the minorities in Canada aren't being told that they
deserve "reparations" for things done to their ancestors centuries ago.
Seriously. The civil rights movement was a wonderful thing, but it's
gotten that the pendulum has swung too far.
Why is it that Europeans feel free to intelligibly comment on things in the
U.S. they willingly admit they don't understand? I thought the OP rant was
pretty good. Some of us are very frustrated by the "rest of the wold"
being so haughty and pretentious. Tell me, were the Scotts treated any
better in the U.K. than the blacks in the U.S.? How about the Jews in
Germany? The Jews in the former Soviet Union? The arabs by the european
catholics?
The U.S. isn't the only country that has had racial issues in the past.
Wow! That was *almost* related to what he said. In that it involved people too..
Who mentioned Americans?
Linux won't make it to the desktop because the mindset of the average linux user would be 'set up a different account'. This is not acceptable to most people.
But it was a *Windows* problem that was being worked around. I love how you spin it to be a Linux user problem. What fool told you to give admin rights to a normal user? No wonder Windows will never make it in the Enterprise (where root is restricted to trusted users only).
See? I can spin too.
Soooo, Linux may not make it to the desktop because you need Administrator rights to play games under Windows?
Interesting logic you use there buddy.
Might Linux not have *anything* to do with this? Lets be real. You were just taking a stab at Linux for the sake of being a jerk right?
Your tuition? I assume you refere to UMass? One of the state schools with the lowest tuition in the country? Sure, it's going up. But I'd rather you pay for it then me (who is not going to college). That's how life works. You want something? *You* pay for it. Stop asking the government to hold you fricking hand.
Wow, I dig Eletric (just downloaded it, responding using vim now). This is pretty cool! Especially for those of us who can't live without vim...
The problem is that Verisign is doing their wildcarding at the DNS level. This effects the entire *internet*, not just the World Wide Web. So not only do you get directed to their site on your web-browser, but also if you lookup domains for telnet, ftp, ssh, smtp, etc. This causes problem for (among other things) spam filters, who check that your domain exists (well, now *all* .com domains exist) before delivering mail.
Verisign is being extremely short-sighted. This whole deal reeks of a moronic manager who thught this would be a 'wonderful' idea.
I love this guy. I was just browsing through here looking for the "Why do we need anything new?" guy.
You crack me up dude. Keep it kicking with your 486 and MacIIci's!
A lot it would seem...
It just all goes to show how screwed up the U.S. is now. Lord knows Bush is probably behind all this with his "big business" backing.
What? This is in the UK? Er...
If this were U.S. bashing it would have been moded as +5 interesting.
Your post sir, is timeless. It could be said at almost any point in history, including that yet to come.
It's like saying there's unrest in the middle east!
If that day comes, you can bet your ass I won't be bitching that the French, British, German, et al aren't doing anything to help me. Perhaps I'll bitch about my *own* country not providing help, but not *others*. I fucking hate how the world expects the good 'ole U.S.A. to be there to solve their problems. Suck it up, and deal with them yourselves. We're sick of helping and then being insulted or attacked by you. Or at least *I* am...