this would only be good for mental loss or alzheimers patients if they learned how to use it BEFORE their disease or disorder took effect. otherwise, they would never remember the voice commands, to get rfid tags, or even that they live in this smart house in the first place.
aside from the obvious implications of this discovery (which I think are very interesting) - does this mean we can harvest stem cells from the cancer cells for use in stem cell research? are these stem cells different from the ones that we have been arguing over for the last few years that we've been trying to steal from embryos? i sure hope we can find a way to get some stem cell research done, otherwise we will surely fall behind the other countries that are moving forward in this area of science. f bush he's holdin us down!
on the other hand, a case heard by lower courts and brought up by the supreme court is a perfect example of when the justice system wants an issue cleared up. i understand your point, but i feel that sometimes a decision by the court system is necessary; even if it's just reaching out to the legislation to clear the problem up, it helps.
ray - you make a good point, we really need these kinds of battles to be decided in the courtroom to set a precedent. this way we will know where the law stands. all of these agreements before anyone sues or out of court settlements just avoid the issue. im just worried this one will go the same way
the most interesting thing about these pre-suing agreements that have been arranged (ie. the youtube payout) is that these companies are circumventing the legal system. originally you have a legal battle that ends in a decision. then we started seeing one company sue another but settle out of court (so that no decision on the issue could be rendered by the judicial system.) now we are simply seeing arrangements made before anyone sues, the grandest way of avoiding any real legal decision on the issue. very interesting how they work things out without even deciding if they fall within the laws of the country. we'll never know if it's any kind of infringement, cause they'll never get to court in the first place.
yeah but the fact remains... there are REALLY stupid people out there with lots of mommy and daddys money to spend on this kind of crap.. and if you took the time to go look on ebay before writing back you would have seen a horde of auctions ending in XX minutes with a price of over $3000, many of them hovering around $5000 and some even above that mark (i saw one for 10k with bids) - so I think being the first in line and being quick to auction it off probably increases your return rate by about 100-300%. either way, even if you make $1500 off of one - you probably weren't the guy waiting in line for 3 days, and you are still making 300% profit off your purchase and sale - not a bad deal...
yah im hearing stories of 3 days in line - to resell on ebay for 5k - thats about 75 dollars an hour, a very good hourly pay. wish i knew these things would be selling for exorbitant amounts before this happened, i would have sat my butt in line for 3 days!
i wish i had mod points so i could mod this post and the other two replies up, they are by far the most informative posts on the topic. they cleared everything up on this issue. but my question is: since the state laws control gambling - is it true that prior to the passing of this recent law that disallows credit card companies from sending payments to these sites it was illegal to gamble online? wouldn't this be a law that each state would have to pass, since this power is delegated to the states? or is this a 'federal question' since it deals with diversity (ie. parties from different states, or another country)
are you seriously trying to imply that cold had something to do with the disease that caused the black death, or did you mistakenly hit submit before were finished typing? what about the fact that that same disease ravaged societies in later aftershocks that were less extensive yet still just as deadly - does that hamper your implication at all? or the fact that one third of humanity wasnt even affected by the black death... as someone quite aptly pointed out already through a bit of sarcasm.
yes, it seems incorrect - but they have worded it correctly to make the whole statement true. It is, in fact, free to download the songs - however, it costs $15/month for the right to do so. So you aren't paying to download a song, you are paying for the right to download a song. Subtle difference - makes the statement correct.
Having said that, I won't be opting in for this feature at any point in the near or distant future.
In addition, I do think this is a step up from the "2.50 / download" fee that the other companies provide. This is a better deal if you download > 6 songs a month - which I bet most people do.
thats a great point and I used to agree 100% but then I realized theres a catch - in the past what you recorded would last for a long period of time, but you could record far less of it than you can now. Now you can record a lot more, and it may SEEM as if it's hard to read the tape from the 70's because the technology is all but obselete - but here comes the catch. We've created new technology that can record exponentially more information, and I can guarantee somewhere within that mass of information you can find everything you need to know about our old technology - including how to read it.
your second argument is also well thought out, however this same catch applies, just in a different way. the data may be stored on a medium that will not last as long in its physical form and (ie the cd dye 100 years later) but 1) someone probably copied this information before it died and 2) there were probably multiple copies of that same information on different mediums to begin with.
the spread of information since the invention of the internet/nanotechnology is just immense and unstoppable. and this information is so easily spread and copied it will last forever
this may sound rather novice of me but i just wanted to say thanks for actually writing out the three words that correspond to the FUD acronym. I've read slashdot for about a year now and probably have seen the acronym 3 billion times, however I never knew what it meant. In contrast, it took me about half that long to figure out what RTFA meant, and it was just a chance find when someone else wrote RTFQ - read the freakin question - and I related this to the RTFA and figured that one out.. so yeah, thanks..
Did they count the folks who downloaded it the day before the official release date? I saw it on slashdot when they said they posted it a day early and downloaded it then - I suspect many others did as well. Is this counted in the statistic? I imagine if they had not released it a day early, and the statistic doesnt take that early day into account, these numbers would be even higher. However, if they did take that first day into account and just included those downloads in the official release date, then this statistic is flawed! I can see a number of ways the statistic is wrong, depending on how they counted (or didn't count) the pre-release downloads - however I wont enumerate the rest so as to avoid boring you all.
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hahaha... you believe in a supernatural being
this would only be good for mental loss or alzheimers patients if they learned how to use it BEFORE their disease or disorder took effect. otherwise, they would never remember the voice commands, to get rfid tags, or even that they live in this smart house in the first place.
aside from the obvious implications of this discovery (which I think are very interesting) - does this mean we can harvest stem cells from the cancer cells for use in stem cell research? are these stem cells different from the ones that we have been arguing over for the last few years that we've been trying to steal from embryos? i sure hope we can find a way to get some stem cell research done, otherwise we will surely fall behind the other countries that are moving forward in this area of science. f bush he's holdin us down!
on the other hand, a case heard by lower courts and brought up by the supreme court is a perfect example of when the justice system wants an issue cleared up. i understand your point, but i feel that sometimes a decision by the court system is necessary; even if it's just reaching out to the legislation to clear the problem up, it helps.
ray - you make a good point, we really need these kinds of battles to be decided in the courtroom to set a precedent. this way we will know where the law stands. all of these agreements before anyone sues or out of court settlements just avoid the issue. im just worried this one will go the same way
the most interesting thing about these pre-suing agreements that have been arranged (ie. the youtube payout) is that these companies are circumventing the legal system. originally you have a legal battle that ends in a decision. then we started seeing one company sue another but settle out of court (so that no decision on the issue could be rendered by the judicial system.) now we are simply seeing arrangements made before anyone sues, the grandest way of avoiding any real legal decision on the issue. very interesting how they work things out without even deciding if they fall within the laws of the country. we'll never know if it's any kind of infringement, cause they'll never get to court in the first place.
yeah but the fact remains... there are REALLY stupid people out there with lots of mommy and daddys money to spend on this kind of crap.. and if you took the time to go look on ebay before writing back you would have seen a horde of auctions ending in XX minutes with a price of over $3000, many of them hovering around $5000 and some even above that mark (i saw one for 10k with bids) - so I think being the first in line and being quick to auction it off probably increases your return rate by about 100-300%. either way, even if you make $1500 off of one - you probably weren't the guy waiting in line for 3 days, and you are still making 300% profit off your purchase and sale - not a bad deal...
yah im hearing stories of 3 days in line - to resell on ebay for 5k - thats about 75 dollars an hour, a very good hourly pay. wish i knew these things would be selling for exorbitant amounts before this happened, i would have sat my butt in line for 3 days!
i wish i had mod points so i could mod this post and the other two replies up, they are by far the most informative posts on the topic. they cleared everything up on this issue. but my question is: since the state laws control gambling - is it true that prior to the passing of this recent law that disallows credit card companies from sending payments to these sites it was illegal to gamble online? wouldn't this be a law that each state would have to pass, since this power is delegated to the states? or is this a 'federal question' since it deals with diversity (ie. parties from different states, or another country)
errr scratch that.. i misread the "The world's a better place because homosexuality has been mainstreamed" line.. mod away!
what fucking retards modded this up? i'm sorry, I must not have realized this was gaybashing.com
are you seriously trying to imply that cold had something to do with the disease that caused the black death, or did you mistakenly hit submit before were finished typing? what about the fact that that same disease ravaged societies in later aftershocks that were less extensive yet still just as deadly - does that hamper your implication at all? or the fact that one third of humanity wasnt even affected by the black death... as someone quite aptly pointed out already through a bit of sarcasm.
yes, it seems incorrect - but they have worded it correctly to make the whole statement true. It is, in fact, free to download the songs - however, it costs $15/month for the right to do so. So you aren't paying to download a song, you are paying for the right to download a song. Subtle difference - makes the statement correct.
Having said that, I won't be opting in for this feature at any point in the near or distant future.
In addition, I do think this is a step up from the "2.50 / download" fee that the other companies provide. This is a better deal if you download > 6 songs a month - which I bet most people do.
trying to confuse me with more acronyms, are ya?
thats a great point and I used to agree 100% but then I realized theres a catch - in the past what you recorded would last for a long period of time, but you could record far less of it than you can now. Now you can record a lot more, and it may SEEM as if it's hard to read the tape from the 70's because the technology is all but obselete - but here comes the catch. We've created new technology that can record exponentially more information, and I can guarantee somewhere within that mass of information you can find everything you need to know about our old technology - including how to read it.
your second argument is also well thought out, however this same catch applies, just in a different way. the data may be stored on a medium that will not last as long in its physical form and (ie the cd dye 100 years later) but 1) someone probably copied this information before it died and 2) there were probably multiple copies of that same information on different mediums to begin with.
the spread of information since the invention of the internet/nanotechnology is just immense and unstoppable. and this information is so easily spread and copied it will last forever
hahahaha hahahaha nice sig!!
this may sound rather novice of me but i just wanted to say thanks for actually writing out the three words that correspond to the FUD acronym. I've read slashdot for about a year now and probably have seen the acronym 3 billion times, however I never knew what it meant. In contrast, it took me about half that long to figure out what RTFA meant, and it was just a chance find when someone else wrote RTFQ - read the freakin question - and I related this to the RTFA and figured that one out.. so yeah, thanks..
Let's not forget, this is the same guy who, approx 1 month ago, said "only a moron would buy youtube"
what of the folks who sample songs for their own use... wouldn't this always come up as copyrighted?
and while I agree with your post, your title does not make sense either
indeminify : Sorry, indeminify is not in the dictionary!
all of you who reminded the original poster that halloween is not for a few days have obviated your level of nerdness.
.... you have made it clear you do NOT go out... EVER.
CONGRATULATIONS ON NOT REALIZING THAT PEOPLE PARTY ON SATURDAY NIGHT
this should be +5 absolutely on point.. if there was such a category..
its only a crime if you dont agree to it...
duty of care, huh? you sound like my torts professor
Did they count the folks who downloaded it the day before the official release date? I saw it on slashdot when they said they posted it a day early and downloaded it then - I suspect many others did as well. Is this counted in the statistic? I imagine if they had not released it a day early, and the statistic doesnt take that early day into account, these numbers would be even higher. However, if they did take that first day into account and just included those downloads in the official release date, then this statistic is flawed! I can see a number of ways the statistic is wrong, depending on how they counted (or didn't count) the pre-release downloads - however I wont enumerate the rest so as to avoid boring you all.