First factor is how much electrolyte content the water had. I.e. Distilled water is a perfect insulator, no electrolytic content also known as chemically inert. Salt water is at the other end of the spectrum. The reason I know this is from years working on Military electronics in the Navy. The first thing that should have happened would be to immerse the items in as clean of water as possible. This would have reduced the electrolytic properties of the contaminated water by distilling it with the fresh water in a container. Not having that available, then the next step would have been to attempt to clean with any water displacing compount. I.e. WD 40 would work, however that would still need to be removed before operation. The goal would be to break the galvanic corrosion cycle by reducing the electrolyte that provides the return path from the anode to cathode caused by the dissimilar metals. The electronics could still be salvaged if care is taken to thouroughly clean and then "THOUROUGHLY" dry them. I currently work in an industry where we have to repair electronics that are used in Poultry processing, and the rendering process leaves deposits on the electronics that can destroy them if not tended to in a timely manner. Isopropyl alcohol or denatured alcohol will work in cutting oils or other chemicals on a board, however they can also mar the surface of the PCB coatings and leave it prone to corrosive damage unless re-coated with a suitable humidity barrier. Having stated all that, Soap and water to clean is perfectly acceptable, but thourough rinsing to remove the soap and thourough drying is a must.
Good luck in the salvage process.
In other words help prevent/. from being/.'ed. (i.e. kdawson logon, search for kdawson, post kdawson, search again... "insert apropriate Mobius Loop event").
If your looking at being able to stream across the network or the internet. Something that works for my 40G library is Jinzora. (http://www.jinzora.org/) I've got it setup as a php web page and can stream from my web server. I'm able to stream a dedicated playlist to my treo so I can listen to music anywhere. Jinzora has different account settings that allow for creating multiple user logins. It can stream my MP3 or M4A files equally well.
A little while later at the bank.....
Robert: "What do you mean I don't have any funds?"
Teller: "I'm sorry sir, the account seams to have been frozen."
Robert: "Oh, man! I knew I should have wated to cash the check before talking about the dimmer switch theory...."
Proof that the Ice-Age theory works. If you hit the correct switch. Everything gets cold.....
Or better yet, what are her credentials to call for removal of the AMS seal of approval? If you look at the American Meteorological Society website listing the current list of 155 Certified Broadcast Meteorologists(CBM), she is not listed. http://www.ametsoc.org/memdir/seallist/get_listofc bm.cfm The page also goes into a what it takes to get the CBM and what requirements for the AMS seal of approval. Also if you look at the committee for the board of Broadcast Meteorology, i.e. the peers that review whether you get the AMS seal of approval or not, she's not there either. http://www.ametsoc.org/stacpges/CommitteeDisplay/C ommitteeDisplay.aspx?CC=SEAL So what is her issue with the AMS seal if they are all peer reviewed? What soapbox gives her the piority to dicatate what the AMS boards do? Currently her only active board membership, after confirming in March of 2006 that she would have to step down from the Board on Enterprise Economic Development http://www.ametsoc.org/boardpges/cwce/beedminutes0 412.pdf , is the Committee on Climate Variability and Change, http://www.ametsoc.org/stacpges/CommitteeDisplay/C ommitteeDisplay.aspx?CC=CLIMVAR .
Their charter is to foster interchange of knowldge, not to certify or decertify?
And as far as the AMS point paper, http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeresearc h_2003.html , They acknowledge that human interaction has an affect, but also point out that the full suite of feedback processes used in the models are still not fully known. Which is why they state the confusion caused by the change in mean surface temperature of.6 deg. in the last 100 years, and the difference in the tropospheric temperature changes which are only catalogued over the last 40 years. This point paper also brings out that the rate of tropospheric change was slower in the 80's and 90's than it was in the 60's and 70's. They point out that there are many variables that are largely not understood.
So back to the original question, what's the credentials to call for decertification????
They'll know how to use a computer for more than point and click. Then they will be overqualified for Windows Tech support. Or they'll have to increase their wages. Nah, Don't see Bill giving up more money.
So then you could setup the T.V. Cameras outside the "Glass House" and sell it as reality feed to the networks. Might get a little embarrasing about the time you sit down and go to the bathroom through....;)
And to think 99er magazine was pushed out by PC World. At least they could have the decency to list the TI-99/4a. Considering it was one of the first to have Voice Synthesis, and expandable floppy drive, Multiple Programming language cartridges and still be a home computer. Let alone a 3 voice tone generator, which the "Real IBM PC's" didn't have.
So does that mean the new "Green Inside" Logo would have to be a little tree living by the happy brook??? Ew that deffinately turns the meaning green inside a little different.;-)
Just like Winblowz updates. Just when you think your system is safe.... But then again, If it were that painfull then we could just pop the top, roll back the date on the bios and tell it that it's 6 months earlier.
Shoot, they already figured that one out with winblowz ME.
And better yet, smaller internal devices that could sense the minute changes in blood glucose. Reducing the need to do multiple finger sticks, just one step closer to a closed loop insulin delivery system.... Just a food for thought.
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First factor is how much electrolyte content the water had. I.e. Distilled water is a perfect insulator, no electrolytic content also known as chemically inert. Salt water is at the other end of the spectrum. The reason I know this is from years working on Military electronics in the Navy. The first thing that should have happened would be to immerse the items in as clean of water as possible. This would have reduced the electrolytic properties of the contaminated water by distilling it with the fresh water in a container. Not having that available, then the next step would have been to attempt to clean with any water displacing compount. I.e. WD 40 would work, however that would still need to be removed before operation. The goal would be to break the galvanic corrosion cycle by reducing the electrolyte that provides the return path from the anode to cathode caused by the dissimilar metals. The electronics could still be salvaged if care is taken to thouroughly clean and then "THOUROUGHLY" dry them. I currently work in an industry where we have to repair electronics that are used in Poultry processing, and the rendering process leaves deposits on the electronics that can destroy them if not tended to in a timely manner. Isopropyl alcohol or denatured alcohol will work in cutting oils or other chemicals on a board, however they can also mar the surface of the PCB coatings and leave it prone to corrosive damage unless re-coated with a suitable humidity barrier. Having stated all that, Soap and water to clean is perfectly acceptable, but thourough rinsing to remove the soap and thourough drying is a must. Good luck in the salvage process.
In other words help prevent /. from being /.'ed. (i.e. kdawson logon, search for kdawson, post kdawson, search again... "insert apropriate Mobius Loop event").
Running with scissors finally comes into the 21st century.
If your looking at being able to stream across the network or the internet. Something that works for my 40G library is Jinzora. (http://www.jinzora.org/) I've got it setup as a php web page and can stream from my web server. I'm able to stream a dedicated playlist to my treo so I can listen to music anywhere. Jinzora has different account settings that allow for creating multiple user logins. It can stream my MP3 or M4A files equally well.
A little while later at the bank..... Robert: "What do you mean I don't have any funds?" Teller: "I'm sorry sir, the account seams to have been frozen." Robert: "Oh, man! I knew I should have wated to cash the check before talking about the dimmer switch theory...." Proof that the Ice-Age theory works. If you hit the correct switch. Everything gets cold.....
Or better yet, what are her credentials to call for removal of the AMS seal of approval? If you look at the American Meteorological Society website listing the current list of 155 Certified Broadcast Meteorologists(CBM), she is not listed. http://www.ametsoc.org/memdir/seallist/get_listofc bm.cfm The page also goes into a what it takes to get the CBM and what requirements for the AMS seal of approval. Also if you look at the committee for the board of Broadcast Meteorology, i.e. the peers that review whether you get the AMS seal of approval or not, she's not there either. http://www.ametsoc.org/stacpges/CommitteeDisplay/C ommitteeDisplay.aspx?CC=SEAL So what is her issue with the AMS seal if they are all peer reviewed? What soapbox gives her the piority to dicatate what the AMS boards do? Currently her only active board membership, after confirming in March of 2006 that she would have to step down from the Board on Enterprise Economic Development http://www.ametsoc.org/boardpges/cwce/beedminutes0 412.pdf , is the Committee on Climate Variability and Change, http://www.ametsoc.org/stacpges/CommitteeDisplay/C ommitteeDisplay.aspx?CC=CLIMVAR .
Their charter is to foster interchange of knowldge, not to certify or decertify?
And as far as the AMS point paper, http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeresearc h_2003.html , They acknowledge that human interaction has an affect, but also point out that the full suite of feedback processes used in the models are still not fully known. Which is why they state the confusion caused by the change in mean surface temperature of .6 deg. in the last 100 years, and the difference in the tropospheric temperature changes which are only catalogued over the last 40 years. This point paper also brings out that the rate of tropospheric change was slower in the 80's and 90's than it was in the 60's and 70's. They point out that there are many variables that are largely not understood.
So back to the original question, what's the credentials to call for decertification????
Yup, Keep the car, and hire the Illegal Immigrants to push the Car. Then I can use the money I save to buy Mod Points.
Yup, keep the car, and hire illegal labor to push it. They are cheaper than the gas prices. ;-)
But think of what it would do in cost energy savings from the 16 speed DOHC Diesel Vibrators.
They'll know how to use a computer for more than point and click. Then they will be overqualified for Windows Tech support. Or they'll have to increase their wages. Nah, Don't see Bill giving up more money.
So then you could setup the T.V. Cameras outside the "Glass House" and sell it as reality feed to the networks. Might get a little embarrasing about the time you sit down and go to the bathroom through....;)
And to think 99er magazine was pushed out by PC World. At least they could have the decency to list the TI-99/4a. Considering it was one of the first to have Voice Synthesis, and expandable floppy drive, Multiple Programming language cartridges and still be a home computer. Let alone a 3 voice tone generator, which the "Real IBM PC's" didn't have.
So does that mean the new "Green Inside" Logo would have to be a little tree living by the happy brook??? Ew that deffinately turns the meaning green inside a little different. ;-)
Just like Winblowz updates. Just when you think your system is safe.... But then again, If it were that painfull then we could just pop the top, roll back the date on the bios and tell it that it's 6 months earlier. Shoot, they already figured that one out with winblowz ME.
And better yet, smaller internal devices that could sense the minute changes in blood glucose. Reducing the need to do multiple finger sticks, just one step closer to a closed loop insulin delivery system.... Just a food for thought.