You wanna buy DVD drives for high-volume manufacture & write your own commercial software - you gotta sign up. That's just the way it is.
Apple is not pro-DRM, nor will they ever be
Meaning understood. However, you want to do DVD in the industry, you have to play by the (their) rules. Otherwise you get cut off. Apple has the half-decency to pay lip service to their 'regulations' while not bending over backwards to accommodate them. Surely you can see that. It's not like Apple can go choose a DRM-free vendor of drives (go on - name one). Their hands are tied, just like anyone else.
I cannot comment any deeper than that, so I guess you get the last word....
Some of them definitely work - the question comes up on the darwin-developers list regularly. There's a/dev entry for serial devices & also the XServe has a fully-working serial port on the back of the machine. So yeah, MacOS X natively supports serial....
My point is that I'm not making a statement by actively not buying their product. I'm just not buying it 'coz it's unsuitable. BMG aren't going to listen to a bunch of us shouting 'boycott!' - we'll just get dismissed as a handful of cranks & thus nothing to worry about.
If someone asks me why I don't buy them, I'll say it's because they're crap & they just don't function like they should. That speaks a lot louder than making it political.
(Pardon the rambling - do you see my point, tho'?)
It's far simpler than that - I won't be boycotting them!
If the 'cd' doesn't work for me - I don't buy it. Plain and simple. If their product is defective, they don't get my money. No boycott needed there.....
I do. If there's something I really like, I'll go out and buy it & then rip it on my laptop so I can listen @ work. It's what I do....
However, crippleware so-called CDs will stop that. Therefore, I will not be buying crippleware CDs. Simple as that. So long as CDs remain RedBook compliant, I have no problem. Anything else doesn't get bought.
If everyone else did that, I'm sure they'd eventually get the message....
The MPAA had nothing to do with the transition from RPCI to RPCII. That was the DVD Forum.
http://www.dvdforum.org/about-charter.htm
(2) Membership. Members of the Steering Committee for the initial two (2) years shall be the ten (10) companies that originally comprised the former DVD Consortium (Hitachi, Ltd., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., Mitsubishi Electric Corporation, Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V., Pioneer Electronic Corporation, Sony Corporation, Thomson multimedia, Time Warner Inc., Toshiba Corporation, and Victor Company of Japan, Ltd.), and up to ten (10) additional Principal Members to be determined by the above-named ten companies.
Oh look, Time Warner and *other* Principal Members. Who could they be??? (Yeah, there's a list of 'ordinary' members, too & Apple is one of them. So's M$....
Is it illegal to flash a DVD-ROM with a new firmware which has region restriction disabled? No.
Maybe not, but it may be illegal in your country to reverse-engineer the firmware. Hmmm.
Is it illegal for Apple to do so? No.
Wake up! They'd at least be in breach of contract with their vendor(s). Not to mention being against the charter of the above mentioned forum...
Why doesn't Apple do so... ?
Lookit - I don't want to say too much about this. The new drives don't work with older firmware - it's simple as that. Most f/w hacks out there are just that; hacks of the original firmware with the RPC stuff NOP'd over or whatever. I can hardly see Apple downloading them to re-flash their drives. Not to mention the amount of hassle it would be for manufacturing.
Apple's DVD protection was cracked within days of being released, both the 9 version and the X.
Speaking personally here - it could be argued that they didn't try particularly hard to implement the restrictions that the industry foisted upon them.
Apple waited until the last second before they transitioned from RPCI drives to RPCII. It's awkward for everyone, trust me & even had implications for their manufacturing process. That's about all I'm going to say on that....
Dude, this is outside the control of Apple. It's a function of the drive firmware (for RPCII drives, which all are these days). The MPAA insisted that DVD drive vendors transition from RPCI to RPCII, thus taking control of this away from the software authors. Apparently, too many people were overriding this in software...:-/
For RPCII, the drive firmware itself decrements the region count - the only way to circumvent this is to re-flash. So don't blame Apple - all users of bare DVD drives now have this 'feature'
I had the honour to meet Elizabeth at Apple during an OpenFirmware/FCode training course. She's an amazing teacher & is one of the first people ever to use the language, having worked with Chuck Moore in the late 60s....
She now works with Forth, Inc. Check out forth.com. They have an excellent history of the language here. BTW, there are free Forth interpreters for just about every platform out there. It's a cool language.
They're only "massive" if you're trying to save-as. All modern webservers page-serve PDF's.
Not quite. This one doesn't & happens to be the one that I use, so there goes that theory. My alternatives include IE and Lynx, so go take yer pick....
The problem I have with stealth PDFs is that they're massive & I happen to be on an analog dialup most of the time. Why doesn't Taco modify the lameness filter to also include the main stories, eh?
IANAL, but they'd wanna watch it. KDE is a registered trademark of KDE e.V, the KDE non-profit umbrella org. I guess if KDEProject sufficiently piss the KDE folks off by dragging their good name into the mud, KDE can revoke permission to use the KDE trademark & all that...
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Sorry, I completely missed your point. Did you mean the MPAA?
A bit redundant, that last part .... ;-)
Hey - speak for yourself, ok? I'm too busy for that kinda stuff ...
:-)
Apple is not pro-DRM, nor will they ever be
Meaning understood. However, you want to do DVD in the industry, you have to play by the (their) rules. Otherwise you get cut off. Apple has the half-decency to pay lip service to their 'regulations' while not bending over backwards to accommodate them. Surely you can see that. It's not like Apple can go choose a DRM-free vendor of drives (go on - name one). Their hands are tied, just like anyone else.
I cannot comment any deeper than that, so I guess you get the last word ....
Yeah, whatever. That's why Apple produce the iPod & put a "don't steal music" sticker on the box .... *sigh*
Some of them definitely work - the question comes up on the darwin-developers list regularly. There's a /dev entry for serial devices & also the XServe has a fully-working serial port on the back of the machine. So yeah, MacOS X natively supports serial ....
If someone asks me why I don't buy them, I'll say it's because they're crap & they just don't function like they should. That speaks a lot louder than making it political.
(Pardon the rambling - do you see my point, tho'?)
If the 'cd' doesn't work for me - I don't buy it. Plain and simple. If their product is defective, they don't get my money. No boycott needed there .....
However, crippleware so-called CDs will stop that. Therefore, I will not be buying crippleware CDs. Simple as that. So long as CDs remain RedBook compliant, I have no problem. Anything else doesn't get bought.
If everyone else did that, I'm sure they'd eventually get the message ....
http://www.dvdforum.org/about-charter.htm
Oh look, Time Warner and *other* Principal Members. Who could they be??? (Yeah, there's a list of 'ordinary' members, too & Apple is one of them. So's M$Is it illegal to flash a DVD-ROM with a new firmware which has region restriction disabled? No.
Maybe not, but it may be illegal in your country to reverse-engineer the firmware. Hmmm.
Is it illegal for Apple to do so? No.
Wake up! They'd at least be in breach of contract with their vendor(s). Not to mention being against the charter of the above mentioned forum ...
Why doesn't Apple do so... ?
Lookit - I don't want to say too much about this. The new drives don't work with older firmware - it's simple as that. Most f/w hacks out there are just that; hacks of the original firmware with the RPC stuff NOP'd over or whatever. I can hardly see Apple downloading them to re-flash their drives. Not to mention the amount of hassle it would be for manufacturing.
Apple's DVD protection was cracked within days of being released, both the 9 version and the X. Speaking personally here - it could be argued that they didn't try particularly hard to implement the restrictions that the industry foisted upon them.
Apple waited until the last second before they transitioned from RPCI drives to RPCII. It's awkward for everyone, trust me & even had implications for their manufacturing process. That's about all I'm going to say on that ....
For RPCII, the drive firmware itself decrements the region count - the only way to circumvent this is to re-flash. So don't blame Apple - all users of bare DVD drives now have this 'feature'
Here's the official site & here's Sun's lesser-known public OF site ....
Every time you use a PCI card with an FCode driver, you're using (bytecode) Forth. There's a lot of it about down at the hardware level .....
She now works with Forth, Inc. Check out forth.com. They have an excellent history of the language here. BTW, there are free Forth interpreters for just about every platform out there. It's a cool language.
Chuck Moore's own site is here
This "mini-computer" uses state-of-the art technology
A mini-computer - wow! Can you imagine how much power that thing must draw? Cutting-edge technology ...
That's sectarian humour, BTW.
Fine and good if I happened to live in America. Thanks for playing, try again ....
Not quite. This one doesn't & happens to be the one that I use, so there goes that theory. My alternatives include IE and Lynx, so go take yer pick ....
The problem I have with stealth PDFs is that they're massive & I happen to be on an analog dialup most of the time. Why doesn't Taco modify the lameness filter to also include the main stories, eh?
Hehe. Good ol' Adobe - and they own the PDF standard. You'd think they'd be the ones to get it right. Someone needs to tell them about Google ....
Anyways Adobe has a pdf translation engine here. Just punch in the URL ...
Thank goodness ...
IANAL, but they'd wanna watch it. KDE is a registered trademark of KDE e.V, the KDE non-profit umbrella org. I guess if KDEProject sufficiently piss the KDE folks off by dragging their good name into the mud, KDE can revoke permission to use the KDE trademark & all that ...
GNU already provides a compiler for Fortran77 - it's part of the gcc collection. There's also a drive to release a Fortran95 compiler.