Yes, I have viewed your links. I found them saddening, and they incorrectly portray my Jesus.
You talk like someone who has researched Christianity very well. You can research the belief system, values and ideologies of Christianity, you can even research the people involved, it's leaders, it's history or whatever you like. But Christianity is not those things, it is Jesus. And until you meet him - you will never and could never understand. The Bible even says that (paraphrase) Jesus and the cross are considered foolishness to those who don't know Christ, but to Christians, it is the power of God.
Anyway how come you always get modded as 2 ???
You know that people asked Jesus for proof in His day? "Proove that you are who you say you are" - that's almost exactly what you're saying. "Proove that it's devine intervention at the previously mentioned website". Funny hey, 2000 years later - people still want proof.
I find it amusing that Jesus never gave those who wanted proof, anything near proof. "It's the power of demons" -thats what they (those who wanted proof) said in his day.
So can you understand that by trying to proove to me that Jesus is not the Son of God, I just laugh. Cause I never came to Christ asking (or because of) for proof - I'm not going to leave because there is (according to you) a lack of it. And I beg to differ - there is a mountain load of it, it never seems to be around for people looking for proof - just people looking for Jesus. It's actually easier to believe that it's all just a made up myth, than being real.
You know, I don't like confrontation. I prefer to leave things unsaid, rather than argue. But you are right - this is important. Because all your research must have told you what the Bible says about life after death. Well incase you haven't - I have an obligation to tell you, that if you reject Christ's love, and choose a life without Him on this earth - he will give you what you always wanted when you die. You will break his heart, and you can be without him forever - in hell. I'm not one of those "turn or burn" kinda Christians. I preach the love of God - because that's what won me over.
Can I ask you a question: why do you 'hate' Christianity so much? I mean I hate the corney-American Christian image, I hate the hypocrasy that is evident accross the globe, I hate it when the Mardi-gras is picketed by Christians waving banners about 'God hates homosexuals'... All things which are not Biblical. Can you not accept and see the good - can you even name some of the incredible things that are done in the name of Jesus?
http://www.healingsandmiracles.org/
Yeah, she must be lying - it doesn't fit into your belief system, so that's the obvious answer. I can understand why you think the way you do. The church is supposed to walk in the power and miracles that Jesus himself displayed, you take that away and people wonder why the hell you believe in this God, and what is the point? I don't know why Jesus doesn't heal everyone. But I'm thankful for the incurable (to current science) diseases and illnesses that he does.
I think it has a lot to do with your interpretation of 'better world'. Mabye it involves standard of living? It would appear at first glance that we live in a healthy, wealthy society, where owning your own home and (especially in Australia) car and home entertainment system is the achievable goal. But strangely, in general, people are less connected, more isolated by our technology, and scientific advances. Everyone has a mental illness these days, depression is a now a mere 'common cold', possibly because of an increase in correct diagnosis, but i don't believe so. It's a result of our 'better world' - our self centred better world.
This has gotten way off topic and turned into a religeous debate: My point was simple- The church (flawed as it is - tarnished it's own reputation at times) does so much good for this world - it doesn't appear you can see that. I too can look at the negatives, see only examples such as the IRA if I wanted too. But because I am actually in the church, I see and hear the positive impact we are having. In my church, government departments are turning to us saying "we don't have the answers, we don't know what to do - can you help?" and we are.
You seem very keen on denouncing something that has great value for and in society (and because it is full of people - it will always have be imperfect) - If you want to pull something down with your words, then pull something down that has no good. Child pornography, rape, hard drug addictions, suicide are all wonderful to try and stop, by all means - pull them down. Most organisations have a good and bad element - because that is humanity.
Jesus is the best thing that has ever happened to me, he has changed my life, you can't take that away by arguing over/.
I thankyou for your views, I hope I have adequately explained mine. We will have to agree to disagree on this matter. Kind regards
science and medicine do hold the possibility for cures to diseases and mental illnesses which today are incurable
Walk into a Psychiatric ward and tell me that you can feel a sense of 'hope' in there. Oh that's right - not many people have and ever really want to. We don't want to get our hands dirty... I have. My wife has, there are very few answers there.
"You have a blood clot in your brain - you've got 3 months to live" - Wow, lots of hope there. In fact after our church prayed for Mike a month after the doctors said that, they could find no blood clot. I could tell you at least 5 other stories from people i am directly connected with - millions over the globe. "where's the proof" i hear you say. Talk to them - oh, you don't know any of them? Well go to a church and ask around.
The heart of CHristianity is loving people, spreading the good news, living at peace with everyone - without compromising the gospel. If you truly interpret the Bible correctly, in context - you cannot go about killing for the IRA. That has nothing to do with Christ - merely done in his name. Defaming the very answer to the world's problems today.
I ask you: How better is society today because of the decline of religion and the rise of 'scientific thinking'? Sure there are a few more cures for diseases, but there are new viruses too that we have to develop more cure's for. How has society benefitted? Has the suicide rate decreased? Has crime subsided? Is the world a better place? Hardly.
non thinking? I think and use my mind just as much as any/. er. I have a different ethical code, a different way of thinking - but I am no mindless drone. You are very quick to box all Christians in your box. Well sorry to say that we don't fit.
I believe that there is hope for everyone. Science and medicine has no hope for a lot of people with incurable diseases, mental illnesses. They have no hope.
Just like muslims plead with us that their religion is not a violent religion (and I agree) I ask you that you not judge Christianity by one person's view.
Jesus has done more good for our world than just about anything. It's people who mis-understand, or even worse - hide behind him to accomplish their own adgenda who have done the damage.
World Vision is just one organisation of many (yes, including many environmental organisations) who make our world a better place - can I ask if you have a sponsor child - I do. People who read and understand the Bible realise that it is humanities responsibility to take care of the earth, we are it's stewards.
So before you condemn me, my Jesus, and my faith - take a look around you at the millions of Christians who are not nuts - and who are having an incredible positive impact on our society and planet. It's always the extremists who get the press.
I work for Quickflix - the Australian equivalent of Netflix. We have over 10,000 compared to about a zillion Netflix members. Our Competitor (Bigpond) announced that they are now offering Video on Demand. br> In Australia, we've only just cottoned on to the concept of DVD rentals arriving in your letterbox, so it's at least another few years away until it becomes viable for us to sell and make a profit.
Our market is generally at the 30-40 something's who have a few bucks. The market for VOD (generalisation) is the 20something - 30something Tech Savvy. The cross section of those two market areas - are potential users of this product, and it's quite small.
The problem is that we're competing with millions of pirated movies online that are completely free, and you can own. Who wants to pay for a movie when you can get it for free anyway?
I think in America, you have a larger population, and VOD is more than likely sustainable. But In Australia? It's years away before it becomes a popular alternative to online DVD libraries, and the local Blockbuster.
From my limited understanding the issue is with the parent company.
"The parent's patent process is painful, potentially posing problems - probably profanities proceeding. Plus it places persistant pressure on profitability of primary com-petitors, pleasing the pre-mentioned parent. "
We've just had leavers week - where thousands of year 12 students (in AUstralia) 17-18 years of age get plastered for a week. Alcohol is legal at 18 here, and it doesn't work either.
Have you ever spoken to a photocopier technician?
I used to work in a library - and had to deal with the photocopier and lazer printer issues. You can't stick any old pieces of paper in those puppies - it destroys the printer, makes it jam etc. The reams have to be preferrably kept inside their box till used. Don't open half a packet and leave it there -moisture gets in and makes the paper jam more, drum life decreases - print quality decreases etc...
I'm pictring some secretary jamming creased, folded, curled and otherwise munted pieces of 'recycling paper' into the tray of the work copier... Jim from xerox would probably faint
Slashdot Mirror
Byrd, into the oblong,
Brazil, of humid heat,
Typesetting, at that same,
Brassiere, bang everybody turned.
...than /. stories about flying genitalia
What's this all aboot, eh?
Yes, I have viewed your links. I found them saddening, and they incorrectly portray my Jesus.
You talk like someone who has researched Christianity very well. You can research the belief system, values and ideologies of Christianity, you can even research the people involved, it's leaders, it's history or whatever you like. But Christianity is not those things, it is Jesus. And until you meet him - you will never and could never understand. The Bible even says that (paraphrase) Jesus and the cross are considered foolishness to those who don't know Christ, but to Christians, it is the power of God.
Anyway how come you always get modded as 2 ???
You know that people asked Jesus for proof in His day? "Proove that you are who you say you are" - that's almost exactly what you're saying. "Proove that it's devine intervention at the previously mentioned website". Funny hey, 2000 years later - people still want proof.
I find it amusing that Jesus never gave those who wanted proof, anything near proof. "It's the power of demons" -thats what they (those who wanted proof) said in his day.
So can you understand that by trying to proove to me that Jesus is not the Son of God, I just laugh. Cause I never came to Christ asking (or because of) for proof - I'm not going to leave because there is (according to you) a lack of it. And I beg to differ - there is a mountain load of it, it never seems to be around for people looking for proof - just people looking for Jesus. It's actually easier to believe that it's all just a made up myth, than being real.
You know, I don't like confrontation. I prefer to leave things unsaid, rather than argue. But you are right - this is important. Because all your research must have told you what the Bible says about life after death. Well incase you haven't - I have an obligation to tell you, that if you reject Christ's love, and choose a life without Him on this earth - he will give you what you always wanted when you die. You will break his heart, and you can be without him forever - in hell. I'm not one of those "turn or burn" kinda Christians. I preach the love of God - because that's what won me over.
Can I ask you a question: why do you 'hate' Christianity so much? I mean I hate the corney-American Christian image, I hate the hypocrasy that is evident accross the globe, I hate it when the Mardi-gras is picketed by Christians waving banners about 'God hates homosexuals'... All things which are not Biblical. Can you not accept and see the good - can you even name some of the incredible things that are done in the name of Jesus?
http://www.healingsandmiracles.org/ Yeah, she must be lying - it doesn't fit into your belief system, so that's the obvious answer. I can understand why you think the way you do. The church is supposed to walk in the power and miracles that Jesus himself displayed, you take that away and people wonder why the hell you believe in this God, and what is the point? I don't know why Jesus doesn't heal everyone. But I'm thankful for the incurable (to current science) diseases and illnesses that he does.
/.
I think it has a lot to do with your interpretation of 'better world'. Mabye it involves standard of living? It would appear at first glance that we live in a healthy, wealthy society, where owning your own home and (especially in Australia) car and home entertainment system is the achievable goal. But strangely, in general, people are less connected, more isolated by our technology, and scientific advances. Everyone has a mental illness these days, depression is a now a mere 'common cold', possibly because of an increase in correct diagnosis, but i don't believe so. It's a result of our 'better world' - our self centred better world.
This has gotten way off topic and turned into a religeous debate: My point was simple- The church (flawed as it is - tarnished it's own reputation at times) does so much good for this world - it doesn't appear you can see that. I too can look at the negatives, see only examples such as the IRA if I wanted too. But because I am actually in the church, I see and hear the positive impact we are having. In my church, government departments are turning to us saying "we don't have the answers, we don't know what to do - can you help?" and we are.
You seem very keen on denouncing something that has great value for and in society (and because it is full of people - it will always have be imperfect) - If you want to pull something down with your words, then pull something down that has no good. Child pornography, rape, hard drug addictions, suicide are all wonderful to try and stop, by all means - pull them down. Most organisations have a good and bad element - because that is humanity.
Jesus is the best thing that has ever happened to me, he has changed my life, you can't take that away by arguing over
I thankyou for your views, I hope I have adequately explained mine. We will have to agree to disagree on this matter. Kind regards
Add their email to every spam-list in the world: force them to read every one, 12 hours a day 7 days a week.
and maybe cut out their eyes, or is that a tad harsh?
science and medicine do hold the possibility for cures to diseases and mental illnesses which today are incurable Walk into a Psychiatric ward and tell me that you can feel a sense of 'hope' in there. Oh that's right - not many people have and ever really want to. We don't want to get our hands dirty... I have. My wife has, there are very few answers there.
/. er. I have a different ethical code, a different way of thinking - but I am no mindless drone. You are very quick to box all Christians in your box. Well sorry to say that we don't fit.
"You have a blood clot in your brain - you've got 3 months to live" - Wow, lots of hope there. In fact after our church prayed for Mike a month after the doctors said that, they could find no blood clot. I could tell you at least 5 other stories from people i am directly connected with - millions over the globe. "where's the proof" i hear you say. Talk to them - oh, you don't know any of them? Well go to a church and ask around.
The heart of CHristianity is loving people, spreading the good news, living at peace with everyone - without compromising the gospel. If you truly interpret the Bible correctly, in context - you cannot go about killing for the IRA. That has nothing to do with Christ - merely done in his name. Defaming the very answer to the world's problems today.
I ask you: How better is society today because of the decline of religion and the rise of 'scientific thinking'? Sure there are a few more cures for diseases, but there are new viruses too that we have to develop more cure's for. How has society benefitted? Has the suicide rate decreased? Has crime subsided? Is the world a better place? Hardly.
non thinking? I think and use my mind just as much as any
Christian Beliefs are a big problem?
I believe that there is hope for everyone. Science and medicine has no hope for a lot of people with incurable diseases, mental illnesses. They have no hope.
Just like muslims plead with us that their religion is not a violent religion (and I agree) I ask you that you not judge Christianity by one person's view.
Jesus has done more good for our world than just about anything. It's people who mis-understand, or even worse - hide behind him to accomplish their own adgenda who have done the damage.
World Vision is just one organisation of many (yes, including many environmental organisations) who make our world a better place - can I ask if you have a sponsor child - I do. People who read and understand the Bible realise that it is humanities responsibility to take care of the earth, we are it's stewards.
So before you condemn me, my Jesus, and my faith - take a look around you at the millions of Christians who are not nuts - and who are having an incredible positive impact on our society and planet. It's always the extremists who get the press.
I work for Quickflix - the Australian equivalent of Netflix. We have over 10,000 compared to about a zillion Netflix members. Our Competitor (Bigpond) announced that they are now offering Video on Demand.
br> In Australia, we've only just cottoned on to the concept of DVD rentals arriving in your letterbox, so it's at least another few years away until it becomes viable for us to sell and make a profit.
Our market is generally at the 30-40 something's who have a few bucks. The market for VOD (generalisation) is the 20something - 30something Tech Savvy. The cross section of those two market areas - are potential users of this product, and it's quite small.
The problem is that we're competing with millions of pirated movies online that are completely free, and you can own. Who wants to pay for a movie when you can get it for free anyway?
I think in America, you have a larger population, and VOD is more than likely sustainable. But In Australia? It's years away before it becomes a popular alternative to online DVD libraries, and the local Blockbuster.
4 words: Mega long extension cords.
I'm in ur starwars killin ur movies
From my limited understanding the issue is with the parent company.
"The parent's patent process is painful, potentially posing problems - probably profanities proceeding. Plus it places persistant pressure on profitability of primary com-petitors, pleasing the pre-mentioned parent. "
Paul Pacer - President of Patent Pending
Taken from Monty Python and the Holy Grail
"...and they ate Robyn's Record Lables. There was much rejoicing. (yay)"
What's the average age of people on second life? 10?
Just think... in 20 years time - our kids will be talking about pod-fiction not pulp.
here's an idea... why not suck the dust off the panels? With an old P3 powersupply fan you can suck more dust than you can stop a rover with.
Stop it... your optimism is killing me
one too many posts of "and I for one welcome our..."
Fake deer + machine gun sentry robot = more fun
We've just had leavers week - where thousands of year 12 students (in AUstralia) 17-18 years of age get plastered for a week. Alcohol is legal at 18 here, and it doesn't work either.
Steve Ballmer?
I'm sorry, but 'drinking responsibly' does not exist in anyone under the age of 25. In the older generation, you can go out for a few social drinks.
All my work colleagues under the age of 25 drink to get smashed.
It's not working.
President to E5
Have you ever spoken to a photocopier technician?
I used to work in a library - and had to deal with the photocopier and lazer printer issues. You can't stick any old pieces of paper in those puppies - it destroys the printer, makes it jam etc. The reams have to be preferrably kept inside their box till used. Don't open half a packet and leave it there -moisture gets in and makes the paper jam more, drum life decreases - print quality decreases etc...
I'm pictring some secretary jamming creased, folded, curled and otherwise munted pieces of 'recycling paper' into the tray of the work copier... Jim from xerox would probably faint
Believe me, I can understand why people do the 'bag putting' - it's human nature to do it with everything we see.