That's a pretty bad thing with the English keyboard. I have a swedish keyboard, and even though swedish only has the special characters åäö. I can still type most other charaters using two keystrokes, like: üñëíá...
An OS that is worth checking out if you like the ideas in Plan 9 is VSTa. It is a GPL'ed OS borrowing a lot of ideas from Plan 9. It's microkernel. But not as mature as Plan 9./Erik
I agree with you to a certain extent. But there are a lot of other things than binaries that could be subpackages. Localisations, extra icons, extra levels(in a game), etc...
But one solution to the problem with giant packages where only a small part is used is the one used in the NeXTstep installer packages. In the info file you can define a URL that the actual files should be downloaded from. So the Package includes all info about it, dependenciesm size, version, an icon and so on. Except the files. The NeXT packages was limited to downloading the whole package from one url. But there's nothing saying that it wouldn't be possible to have each subpackage as different downloads. In fact that is getting more and more common on windows, one example is Mozilla. But then there is also a mozilla package with everything included, so you don't have to download anything.
I think that a moderna packaging system should have some kind of subpackages. So If you have a package for GIMP for example, you should be able to choose which localizations you want to install for example.
Basically some parts of the package should be optional.
Of course this could be extended to binaries as well. So you can have a single package for several platforms, the package installer chooses the binary for the correct platform.
mp3 IS license restricted. That's the whole point with ogg (it also sound better btw.)
And ogg is really just as cross-platform (players on basically all platforms supports it)
> The russian revolution WAS violent. The start of the October revolution itself was when the armoured cruiser Potjemkin started to shell the Tsar's palace in St. Petersburg, and the fighting continued long into the 1920's.
nope. There's actually a telegram written by one of the tsarist generals on the morning of the revolution and he writes that it's very quiet and few people on the streets.
there were a few people killed by some guards, ten I think.
The violent part started some weeks AFTER the revolution. But then it was because the capitalists in other countries invaded russia. Especially France, Germany & Japan, as they had large investments in the russian industry.
Also some of the old tsarist generals launched attacks on russia.
And in the parts they conquered they butchered people (especially jews, long before hitler). They also said that they were fighting for demovracy, but in all parts they ruled it was dictatorship. Except in one part in ukraine were only rich people were allowed to vote.
>> "Umm, from where have you gotten that?
The first thing that was decided after the Russian revolution was to have a public election to get rid of the dictatorship"
> With the only nominees for the major positions being Lenin, Stalin and Trotskij...
no, it was an election to the parlament. where you voted on different parties. The bolsjeviks said before that if they won the election they would take the parlament away and give all power to the soviets(a far more democratic institution). They got 38% in that election. But the Socialist revolutionaries(that where against the revolution btw.) was split into two sections and one of them supported the Bolsjeviks in giving all power to the soviets. so then it was done.
>So, the first step in true Communism is to take over the state. Even the Communist Manifesto acknowledges that this must be done through violent revolution, because the capitalists running the show have stacked the deck so heavily in their favor in the politcal arena.
The Russian revolution wasn't violent. And the Communist manifesto never says anything about violent revolutions. Revolutions has always been in defence of democracy.
> But violent revolution doesn't result in you taking over the state... it results in the state being destroyed, and in need of rebuilding. Of course, this is just a transitional state, so it doesn't need to be anything too fancy. And it needs to be small and efficient, so it can be reduced to factory and farm management as rapidly as possible. And of course, only the leaders of the revolution are trustworthy enough to be given any power in this state.
In the Russian revolution the leaders didn't have power over the state. Ordinary people had, but they listened to Lenin, Tryotsky and the others.
> So the second step in the development of a true Communist system is a dictatorship. It's supposed to be a benign dictatorship where the man in charge steps down as soon as the means of production are back in the people's hands, but as the entire world knows from experience that never happens.
Umm, from where have you gotten that?
The first thing that was decided after the Russian revolution was to have a public election to get rid of the dictatorship.
> The problem with true Communism, comrade, is that you never get past the second step.
There is no such second step. So I think you should read a bit more.
AfterStep isn't really close to the NeXTstep UI. WM is far closer.
WM supports all gnome hints, so compability isn't a problem. It might be annoying having the gnome-panel at the bottom when you already have a dock though.
well, isn't that exactly what ID has done. both with doom, quake, wolfenstein and now with quake 2. so you still have to buy the game to play it. you only get the engine for free.
Finally USA gets a top domain like all the other countries have. It might bring some order to the chaos.
Now if only.gov and.mil could be transferred to.gov.us and.mil.us it would almost be a perfect world:)
/Erik
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I've tried it.
It runs fast on a modern PC. But i't certainly not 100 times faster than the latest Amiga (Those have power pc processors).
To properly emulate an Amiga 500 you'll need at least a 500 MHz PC. and considering the Amiga 500 was only running at 7.5 MHz that's pretty slow. The FPU might in that case run 100 times faster than the amiga 500 FPU but the sound won't sound good if you have a slower PC.
/Erik
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> The biggest difference between the two is that
> the Xbox uses unified memory. This means the
> cpu/graphics/sound all use the same memory and
> dont have to contend with the pc memory
> bottleneck of getting stuff to the graphics
> card. Emulating that is going to take a lot of
> time/effort and cpu power.
The Amiga also has this (and a load of other differances) and UAE emulates this. Although emulation is pretty slow.
But anyway you won't have to emulate that much. Something similar to vmware or plex86 would be enough.
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hehe, I've upgraded from slack 8.0 to slack 8.1 on two boxes and I can tell you that every single package has changed...
/Erik
UL is LSB compliant. It doesn't replace it or extend it or anything. LSB is a standard and UL is a (few) distro[s].
But other distros than UL are trying to get LSB compliant.
/Erik
That's a pretty bad thing with the English keyboard. I have a swedish keyboard, and even though swedish only has the special characters åäö. I can still type most other charaters using two keystrokes, like: üñëíá...
/Erik
An OS that is worth checking out if you like the ideas in Plan 9 is VSTa. It is a GPL'ed OS borrowing a lot of ideas from Plan 9. It's microkernel. But not as mature as Plan 9. /Erik
I agree with you to a certain extent. But there are a lot of other things than binaries that could be subpackages. Localisations, extra icons, extra levels(in a game), etc...
But one solution to the problem with giant packages where only a small part is used is the one used in the NeXTstep installer packages. In the info file you can define a URL that the actual files should be downloaded from. So the Package includes all info about it, dependenciesm size, version, an icon and so on. Except the files.
The NeXT packages was limited to downloading the whole package from one url. But there's nothing saying that it wouldn't be possible to have each subpackage as different downloads. In fact that is getting more and more common on windows, one example is Mozilla. But then there is also a mozilla package with everything included, so you don't have to download anything.
/Erik
I think that a moderna packaging system should have some kind of subpackages. So If you have a package for GIMP for example, you should be able to choose which localizations you want to install for example.
Basically some parts of the package should be optional.
Of course this could be extended to binaries as well. So you can have a single package for several platforms, the package installer chooses the binary for the correct platform.
This page lists some of the incompatibilities.
mp3 IS license restricted. That's the whole point with ogg (it also sound better btw.)
And ogg is really just as cross-platform (players on basically all platforms supports it)
/Erik
> The russian revolution WAS violent. The start of the October revolution itself was when the armoured cruiser Potjemkin started to shell the Tsar's palace in St. Petersburg, and the fighting continued long into the 1920's.
nope. There's actually a telegram written by one of the tsarist generals on the morning of the revolution and he writes that it's very quiet and few people on the streets.
there were a few people killed by some guards, ten I think.
The violent part started some weeks AFTER the revolution. But then it was because the capitalists in other countries invaded russia. Especially France, Germany & Japan, as they had large investments in the russian industry.
Also some of the old tsarist generals launched attacks on russia.
And in the parts they conquered they butchered people (especially jews, long before hitler). They also said that they were fighting for demovracy, but in all parts they ruled it was dictatorship. Except in one part in ukraine were only rich people were allowed to vote.
>> "Umm, from where have you gotten that?
The first thing that was decided after the Russian revolution was to have a public election to get rid of the dictatorship"
> With the only nominees for the major positions being Lenin, Stalin and Trotskij...
no, it was an election to the parlament. where you voted on different parties. The bolsjeviks said before that if they won the election they would take the parlament away and give all power to the soviets(a far more democratic institution). They got 38% in that election. But the Socialist revolutionaries(that where against the revolution btw.) was split into two sections and one of them supported the Bolsjeviks in giving all power to the soviets. so then it was done.
/Erik
Lenin abolished death sentences in Russia. Stalin took them back.
Read a bit more...
/Erik
>So, the first step in true Communism is to take over the state. Even the Communist Manifesto acknowledges that this must be done through violent revolution, because the capitalists running the show have stacked the deck so heavily in their favor in the politcal arena.
The Russian revolution wasn't violent. And the Communist manifesto never says anything about violent revolutions. Revolutions has always been in defence of democracy.
> But violent revolution doesn't result in you taking over the state... it results in the state being destroyed, and in need of rebuilding. Of course, this is just a transitional state, so it doesn't need to be anything too fancy. And it needs to be small and efficient, so it can be reduced to factory and farm management as rapidly as possible. And of course, only the leaders of the revolution are trustworthy enough to be given any power in this state.
In the Russian revolution the leaders didn't have power over the state. Ordinary people had, but they listened to Lenin, Tryotsky and the others.
> So the second step in the development of a true Communist system is a dictatorship. It's supposed to be a benign dictatorship where the man in charge steps down as soon as the means of production are back in the people's hands, but as the entire world knows from experience that never happens.
Umm, from where have you gotten that?
The first thing that was decided after the Russian revolution was to have a public election to get rid of the dictatorship.
> The problem with true Communism, comrade, is that you never get past the second step.
There is no such second step. So I think you should read a bit more.
/Erik
well, Ion and 3dwm might come pretty close.
AfterStep isn't really close to the NeXTstep UI. WM is far closer.
WM supports all gnome hints, so compability isn't a problem. It might be annoying having the gnome-panel at the bottom when you already have a dock though.
/Erik
well, isn't that exactly what ID has done. both with doom, quake, wolfenstein and now with quake 2. so you still have to buy the game to play it. you only get the engine for free.
Well, GNUStep Base is a clone of the FoundationKit (CoreFoundation)...
Somehow this reminds me of NeXT computers changing name to NeXT Software (and then was bought out by apple).
But I suppose the new name better reflects their business.
I'm pretty sure there is such an application called installfest
/Erik
It doesn't matter who invented it. It's still badly organized and that's a fact.
/Erik
yes, and look what a mess the DNS system is!
Finally USA gets a top domain like all the other countries have. It might bring some order to the chaos.
.gov and .mil could be transferred to .gov.us and .mil.us it would almost be a perfect world :)
Now if only
/Erik
I've tried it.
It runs fast on a modern PC. But i't certainly not 100 times faster than the latest Amiga (Those have power pc processors).
To properly emulate an Amiga 500 you'll need at least a 500 MHz PC. and considering the Amiga 500 was only running at 7.5 MHz that's pretty slow. The FPU might in that case run 100 times faster than the amiga 500 FPU but the sound won't sound good if you have a slower PC.
/Erik
> The biggest difference between the two is that
> the Xbox uses unified memory. This means the
> cpu/graphics/sound all use the same memory and
> dont have to contend with the pc memory
> bottleneck of getting stuff to the graphics
> card. Emulating that is going to take a lot of
> time/effort and cpu power.
The Amiga also has this (and a load of other differances) and UAE emulates this. Although emulation is pretty slow.
But anyway you won't have to emulate that much. Something similar to vmware or plex86 would be enough.
/Erik
I think you obviously missed the joke this man made. Listen to the song "23..." with "Welle:Erdball"
I haven't seen the movie 23.. yet though
And I don't think RMS actually will harass the webmasters of that page. I actually think he has very good opinions about most things.
/Erik