I can't speak for the popularity of Limewire, but it's just as slow, bloated and ugly as Azureus. (Well, ok, probably less ugly-- but definitly slow and bloated!)
The other examples you cite are all programmer's tools, so I can pretty much guarantee they're not "popular" among anybody except perhaps software developers. But software developers on Mac have XCode, so there you go.
Do you give the same defensive reply when someone points out how crappy Visual Basic is?
Seriously, though, you're right: It probably *is* possible to make a fast, stable and slick app in Java across multiple OSes. The problem is that nobody's done it yet; everything that people associate with the Java logo is slow, ugly and usually also buggy. What do you expect people to think of the technology?
If Sun really wanted to push Java on the desktop, they should have developed apps to show it off themselves. Since they didn't, all the examples we have are crappy, and that's that.
You're not going to convince people that Java isn't "slow, bloated and ugly" by citing Oracle Apps and Lotus Notes as an example. Just a little tip there.
Speaking as a Macintosh user (and not a developer) Java does, and has always, sucked on Macintosh. I've yet to find a single Java app worth running, and it's only recently that Java applets on websites have actually worked without crashing the browser-- timely, now that most websites have ditched their Java applets.
They're going to complain to the magical forest elves of the Land of Fantasia, because that flying cars will never, ever, happen here in the real world.
The problem is that if you have a selection in Photoshop, the number of operations you can perform on it is in the thousands. "Context sensitivity" doesn't really help when there are thousands of possible operations.
MS Office finally fixed that, that's the first thing they threw out the window when they started on the 2007 UI.
Microsoft's hearts were in the right place, but "Personalized Menus" (as they called it) was just plain a bad idea. I'm guessing that by the time they had the usability testing to say "hey this is a bad idea", it was already too ingrained in their development environment/policies to change, I dunno though.
Mission: Thunderbolt is an old Macintosh dungeon digger from the mid-90s. It's a great game, with tons of gameplay elements and randomly generated levels so each game is different. One of the interesting parts of the game is that they made a sequel, Mission: Firebolt, and if you won Mission: Thunderbolt (which was a pretty impressive task, frankly) you could save your game for use in the sequel. I saved that game for at least 5 years waiting to plug the character into the sequel, but never did.
GDP doesn't impress me much, and is a poor indicator of how "good" a country is.
Perhaps.
Rich people are much less likely to be good than happy people, in terms of actions to help other people and unwillingness to inflict harm for a buck.
Hello unfounded assertion! How about throwing a little evidence behind that thought?
If you want to impress me with goodness, work on this, which apparently both Australia and the United States have a long way to go.
That "index" has existed for less than two years, and it strikes me as utter BS. For all I know, it's specifically designed the make the US look bad. In any case, it strikes me as pretty meaningless.
BTW, the US kidnaps people, flies them to other countries and tortures them. The US "accidentally" bombs embassies with precision weapons.
I don't know anything about your first sentence here, so I won't reply to that. The second seems strange, though, as if you believe that a precision weapon is somehow less prone to human error than an inprecise weapon. In any case, if you think the embassy was hit on purpose, try this for a change: cite a reference! Maybe you'll actually convince me if you attach a little bit of weight to the accusation.
We are none of us squeaky clean, but while you guys allow the likes of Cheney to go unpunished, while you reward people who get rich peddling death machines with high office,
What would you like him to be "punished" for? Being unpopular?
you're going to find that the criminal actions within your nation become the criminal actions of your nation.
The last patch fixed the dressing room bug that pissed me off the most. If you were a druid in a shapeshift form, or a shaman in ghost wolf form, when you control-clicked something the dressing room would just show your shapeshift. And of course since animals don't wear equipment, it didn't help much. You had to un-shift, control-click to make the dressing room work, then shift back. Very annoying, but it's been fixed awhile.
This 2.3 patch also adds a gryphon in north Stranglethorn Vale. THANK GOD! I don't know why this wasn't added back when they added in a lot of new flightpoints in like Un-goro and other places, it's been long, long in coming.
The changes to AV are... interesting. I don't know if I'll like them or hate them, but it's worth a try I suppose and if I hate them, I can still do Eye of the Storm.
I helped run a MUD from 1997-2006 and we got this constantly, every time we made any change at all. We actually had a player who quit (and came back) so many times (7 I think) we just finally banned his account so he'd stop quitting. (Normally, it's not an issue, except he'd throw fits and delete his characters, then demand his characters be undeleted-- also he'd write long-winded "man this game sucks" postings on the forums. And every time he'd be a regular player again in less than a month.)
Saying you're going to quit a MUD/MMO because of a change made is the idlest of idle threats.
You go into a bar talking about Iran as if they did all the bad shit and the US was just an inocent player who now has a greivence.
So Australians believe that it's OK for Iran to detain foreign diplomats for over a year at will? And they'll defend Iran's "right" to do this by kicking your ass at a bar?
It still makes no sense.
Do that with the usual blind adherance to US propaganda and unwillingness to accept that the US might be anything other than squeeky clean, you're likely to shit some people.
I think most people in the US, and hopefully the world, recognize that regardless of how "squeeky clean" anybody's record is, holding hostages is *wrong*. To defend hostage-taking is simply crazy. I hope you don't represent the majority of opinion in Australia.
I'm an American. I'm proud to be an American. I recognize that we don't have a squeaky clean record on anything; we've oppressed native peoples, we've treated immigrants like human waste, we're interfered with other nations' governments for dubious purposes. That said, I think our record is better than some nations, and worse than others, probably pretty close to the middle of the bell curve. (Australia shares at least the first human rights crime listed there, if not the other two.)
And this may surprise you, but I like the American way of thinking, which emphases personal responsibility (although Clinton is going to dumpster that if she gets into office) and celebrates independence and creativity. And we're doing pretty damned good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
The Xbox 360 has some kind of psuedo-hibernation mode it goes into when it remains paused for a long period of time. (After about 10 minutes it dims the screen, after a couple of hours it appears to turn itself off, but if you pop it back on it actually resumes where it left off fairly quickly.)
In any case, I'm sure when Microsoft was designing the console, they made it a game release requirement to allow the system to force saves. Seems like the simplest solution, and frankly it's pretty common-sense. (The quirk would be if you were playing and hadn't yet selected a storage device. Not sure how they would handle that.)
It's not "owning" the market, but it's not shabby by any stretch of the imagination.
- most people never heard of another OS than Windo[ws]. it would seem PCs were/their/ area. i doubt it now.
There are two factors here. Virtually everybody is aware that there are a type of computers called "Apples" and that "Apples" look and work differently than Windows. However, that was as true in the 1980s as is it now, so I think I have to take issue with your first observation.
The only change in this area is that people who understand what an OS is are as likely to have heard of Linux as they are to have heard of Macintosh.
- IE was the browser king. it would imply that they owned all of www. is IE doing that well now?
Well, ok, but history aside, he does have a pretty damned good point and it's not trolling:
Android right now, from a practical perspective, exists just on paper. Windows Mobile does have millions of users and thousands of applications. Microsoft's been in this field for, what, 7 years now? They have tons of experience and their product is pretty polished. Google's just starting out, and it'll be a long time until Google ramps it up and gets their product out there in the market.
(I also don't see anything wrong with getting "crashproof" OS/2 boxes to crash... sure you're being a jerk, but false advertising is false advertising.)
1) If he's using the lake's location as a reference point, he could very well say something occured "near Lake Chako" in 1960, even if that lake didn't exist in 1908. For instance, I can say that gold mining occurred in the late 19th century near Mill Creek in Washington State, that doesn't imply that the city of Mill Creek existed in the 19th century.
2) Even if the lake did exist, it's not entirely unrealistic to think that the remains of the comet/meteor/whatever could be in the lake, is it? I mean, it's just as likely to hit a lake in the "blast zone" as it is dry land. So even if the lake existed before 1908, I don't see how it would invalidate the results of these researchers.
Vista Basic is crippled, but I don't think this is missing from Vista Home Premium (the standard version most OEMs use).
It is. I had Vista Home Premium, and no shadow copy and no backup utility. I upgraded to Ultimate specifically to get these features. I believe they're even listed on Microsoft's site, although Microsoft's site is pretty vague about which versions do what: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx
They have a feature for "scheduled backups" in Vista Home Premium, but it's much wimpier and less powerful than the "Complete PC Backup" feature, which is only on Business and Ultimate. (The Complete PC Backup feature can back up to a bootable disk image, as I understand it. I use Mozy.com for backups, so I haven't played with that feature yet.) That chart doesn't list shadow copy, unfortunately, but I'm nearly 100% sure it's only on Business and Ultimate.
Besides, if we investigated and re-investigated every inch of Bush's life the way Congress did Clinton, and gave a judge $60 million to investigate him yet again, I bet we could do just a little better than a manufactured perjury charge.
You don't think that's going to immediately happen as soon as the new administration is in place?
I disagree. The 1984 ad didn't say "PCs suck, Amigas suck, OS/2 sucks" it said, "hey, Apple has something new and different." Apple might have been thinking "PCs suck, Amigas suck, OS/2 sucks," but the commercial doesn't *say* it, not like the current Mac vs. PC commercials which come out and say "hey Windows sucks."
I guess what I'm trying to say is it really cheapens the Slashdot brand in a way that stands a high-risk of alienating the core visitors (the bread and butter).
Considering the Politics section has been around for FOUR YEARS NOW, and considering the Politics articles are frequently the most commented-upon... somehow I don't think Slashdot is alienating anybody. Where have you been?
Besides, all the core visitors (except you, apparently) know how to turn off sections they don't like in the Preferences page.
If you go to a bar in Aussie, and tell someone that you don't like Iran because Iran held Americans hostage, they'll beat you up because the US "interferes" in Aussie's political process somehow? I don't get how that makes any sense at all...
To be impeached you have to break the law. Being a liar is perfectly legal, as long as you don't lie under oath. Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath, that's called perjury and it's illegal.
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I can't speak for the popularity of Limewire, but it's just as slow, bloated and ugly as Azureus. (Well, ok, probably less ugly-- but definitly slow and bloated!)
The other examples you cite are all programmer's tools, so I can pretty much guarantee they're not "popular" among anybody except perhaps software developers. But software developers on Mac have XCode, so there you go.
Do you give the same defensive reply when someone points out how crappy Visual Basic is?
Seriously, though, you're right: It probably *is* possible to make a fast, stable and slick app in Java across multiple OSes. The problem is that nobody's done it yet; everything that people associate with the Java logo is slow, ugly and usually also buggy. What do you expect people to think of the technology?
If Sun really wanted to push Java on the desktop, they should have developed apps to show it off themselves. Since they didn't, all the examples we have are crappy, and that's that.
You're not going to convince people that Java isn't "slow, bloated and ugly" by citing Oracle Apps and Lotus Notes as an example. Just a little tip there.
Speaking as a Macintosh user (and not a developer) Java does, and has always, sucked on Macintosh. I've yet to find a single Java app worth running, and it's only recently that Java applets on websites have actually worked without crashing the browser-- timely, now that most websites have ditched their Java applets.
Unfortunately, it's just a picture of the researcher's thumb.
At least someone realises that we're not all Americans ... YET! Muahahaha!
They're going to complain to the magical forest elves of the Land of Fantasia, because that flying cars will never, ever, happen here in the real world.
The problem is that if you have a selection in Photoshop, the number of operations you can perform on it is in the thousands. "Context sensitivity" doesn't really help when there are thousands of possible operations.
MS Office finally fixed that, that's the first thing they threw out the window when they started on the 2007 UI.
Microsoft's hearts were in the right place, but "Personalized Menus" (as they called it) was just plain a bad idea. I'm guessing that by the time they had the usability testing to say "hey this is a bad idea", it was already too ingrained in their development environment/policies to change, I dunno though.
Screw Acrobat, they totally destroyed the Flash 8 interface with that abomination Flash CS3, and that needs fixing pronto.
Mission: Thunderbolt is an old Macintosh dungeon digger from the mid-90s. It's a great game, with tons of gameplay elements and randomly generated levels so each game is different. One of the interesting parts of the game is that they made a sequel, Mission: Firebolt, and if you won Mission: Thunderbolt (which was a pretty impressive task, frankly) you could save your game for use in the sequel. I saved that game for at least 5 years waiting to plug the character into the sequel, but never did.
GDP doesn't impress me much, and is a poor indicator of how "good" a country is.
Perhaps.
Rich people are much less likely to be good than happy people, in terms of actions to help other people and unwillingness to inflict harm for a buck.
Hello unfounded assertion! How about throwing a little evidence behind that thought?
If you want to impress me with goodness, work on this, which apparently both Australia and the United States have a long way to go.
That "index" has existed for less than two years, and it strikes me as utter BS. For all I know, it's specifically designed the make the US look bad. In any case, it strikes me as pretty meaningless.
BTW, the US kidnaps people, flies them to other countries and tortures them. The US "accidentally" bombs embassies with precision weapons.
I don't know anything about your first sentence here, so I won't reply to that. The second seems strange, though, as if you believe that a precision weapon is somehow less prone to human error than an inprecise weapon. In any case, if you think the embassy was hit on purpose, try this for a change: cite a reference! Maybe you'll actually convince me if you attach a little bit of weight to the accusation.
We are none of us squeaky clean, but while you guys allow the likes of Cheney to go unpunished, while you reward people who get rich peddling death machines with high office,
What would you like him to be "punished" for? Being unpopular?
you're going to find that the criminal actions within your nation become the criminal actions of your nation.
What does that even mean?
The last patch fixed the dressing room bug that pissed me off the most. If you were a druid in a shapeshift form, or a shaman in ghost wolf form, when you control-clicked something the dressing room would just show your shapeshift. And of course since animals don't wear equipment, it didn't help much. You had to un-shift, control-click to make the dressing room work, then shift back. Very annoying, but it's been fixed awhile.
This 2.3 patch also adds a gryphon in north Stranglethorn Vale. THANK GOD! I don't know why this wasn't added back when they added in a lot of new flightpoints in like Un-goro and other places, it's been long, long in coming.
The changes to AV are... interesting. I don't know if I'll like them or hate them, but it's worth a try I suppose and if I hate them, I can still do Eye of the Storm.
I helped run a MUD from 1997-2006 and we got this constantly, every time we made any change at all. We actually had a player who quit (and came back) so many times (7 I think) we just finally banned his account so he'd stop quitting. (Normally, it's not an issue, except he'd throw fits and delete his characters, then demand his characters be undeleted-- also he'd write long-winded "man this game sucks" postings on the forums. And every time he'd be a regular player again in less than a month.)
Saying you're going to quit a MUD/MMO because of a change made is the idlest of idle threats.
You go into a bar talking about Iran as if they did all the bad shit and the US was just an inocent player who now has a greivence.
So Australians believe that it's OK for Iran to detain foreign diplomats for over a year at will? And they'll defend Iran's "right" to do this by kicking your ass at a bar?
It still makes no sense.
Do that with the usual blind adherance to US propaganda and unwillingness to accept that the US might be anything other than squeeky clean, you're likely to shit some people.
I think most people in the US, and hopefully the world, recognize that regardless of how "squeeky clean" anybody's record is, holding hostages is *wrong*. To defend hostage-taking is simply crazy. I hope you don't represent the majority of opinion in Australia.
I'm an American. I'm proud to be an American. I recognize that we don't have a squeaky clean record on anything; we've oppressed native peoples, we've treated immigrants like human waste, we're interfered with other nations' governments for dubious purposes. That said, I think our record is better than some nations, and worse than others, probably pretty close to the middle of the bell curve. (Australia shares at least the first human rights crime listed there, if not the other two.)
And this may surprise you, but I like the American way of thinking, which emphases personal responsibility (although Clinton is going to dumpster that if she gets into office) and celebrates independence and creativity. And we're doing pretty damned good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
The Xbox 360 has some kind of psuedo-hibernation mode it goes into when it remains paused for a long period of time. (After about 10 minutes it dims the screen, after a couple of hours it appears to turn itself off, but if you pop it back on it actually resumes where it left off fairly quickly.)
In any case, I'm sure when Microsoft was designing the console, they made it a game release requirement to allow the system to force saves. Seems like the simplest solution, and frankly it's pretty common-sense. (The quirk would be if you were playing and hadn't yet selected a storage device. Not sure how they would handle that.)
- everyone had hotmail ids once; it would seem webmail was /their/ world. no one would say that now.
/their/ area. i doubt it now.
You can check facts, you know. According to this industry group, Hotmail is #2 behind Yahoo:
http://www.email-marketing-reports.com/metrics/email-statistics.htm
It's not "owning" the market, but it's not shabby by any stretch of the imagination.
- most people never heard of another OS than Windo[ws]. it would seem PCs were
There are two factors here. Virtually everybody is aware that there are a type of computers called "Apples" and that "Apples" look and work differently than Windows. However, that was as true in the 1980s as is it now, so I think I have to take issue with your first observation.
The only change in this area is that people who understand what an OS is are as likely to have heard of Linux as they are to have heard of Macintosh.
- IE was the browser king. it would imply that they owned all of www. is IE doing that well now?
Yeah. Wikipedia puts it at 81.63%:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
- let's not even get started on zune..
Ok then.
Well, ok, but history aside, he does have a pretty damned good point and it's not trolling:
Android right now, from a practical perspective, exists just on paper. Windows Mobile does have millions of users and thousands of applications. Microsoft's been in this field for, what, 7 years now? They have tons of experience and their product is pretty polished. Google's just starting out, and it'll be a long time until Google ramps it up and gets their product out there in the market.
(I also don't see anything wrong with getting "crashproof" OS/2 boxes to crash... sure you're being a jerk, but false advertising is false advertising.)
Two points here:
1) If he's using the lake's location as a reference point, he could very well say something occured "near Lake Chako" in 1960, even if that lake didn't exist in 1908. For instance, I can say that gold mining occurred in the late 19th century near Mill Creek in Washington State, that doesn't imply that the city of Mill Creek existed in the 19th century.
2) Even if the lake did exist, it's not entirely unrealistic to think that the remains of the comet/meteor/whatever could be in the lake, is it? I mean, it's just as likely to hit a lake in the "blast zone" as it is dry land. So even if the lake existed before 1908, I don't see how it would invalidate the results of these researchers.
Vista Basic is crippled, but I don't think this is missing from Vista Home Premium (the standard version most OEMs use).
It is. I had Vista Home Premium, and no shadow copy and no backup utility. I upgraded to Ultimate specifically to get these features. I believe they're even listed on Microsoft's site, although Microsoft's site is pretty vague about which versions do what: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx
They have a feature for "scheduled backups" in Vista Home Premium, but it's much wimpier and less powerful than the "Complete PC Backup" feature, which is only on Business and Ultimate. (The Complete PC Backup feature can back up to a bootable disk image, as I understand it. I use Mozy.com for backups, so I haven't played with that feature yet.) That chart doesn't list shadow copy, unfortunately, but I'm nearly 100% sure it's only on Business and Ultimate.
Besides, if we investigated and re-investigated every inch of Bush's life the way Congress did Clinton, and gave a judge $60 million to investigate him yet again, I bet we could do just a little better than a manufactured perjury charge.
You don't think that's going to immediately happen as soon as the new administration is in place?
I disagree. The 1984 ad didn't say "PCs suck, Amigas suck, OS/2 sucks" it said, "hey, Apple has something new and different." Apple might have been thinking "PCs suck, Amigas suck, OS/2 sucks," but the commercial doesn't *say* it, not like the current Mac vs. PC commercials which come out and say "hey Windows sucks."
I guess what I'm trying to say is it really cheapens the Slashdot brand in a way that stands a high-risk of alienating the core visitors (the bread and butter).
Considering the Politics section has been around for FOUR YEARS NOW, and considering the Politics articles are frequently the most commented-upon... somehow I don't think Slashdot is alienating anybody. Where have you been?
Besides, all the core visitors (except you, apparently) know how to turn off sections they don't like in the Preferences page.
So let me get this straight.
If you go to a bar in Aussie, and tell someone that you don't like Iran because Iran held Americans hostage, they'll beat you up because the US "interferes" in Aussie's political process somehow? I don't get how that makes any sense at all...
To be impeached you have to break the law. Being a liar is perfectly legal, as long as you don't lie under oath. Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath, that's called perjury and it's illegal.