True but it isn't like other devices which write to bootrom etc and as long as everything goes well you're ok.
With the iPhone, you can yank the cord mid jailbreak, or at pretty much anytime during any firmware flash sequence as long as it isn't when the baseband is being written to. Like i said almost nothing you can do to well and truly BRICK an iPhone.
It's for this reason why its safe to try beta jailbreaks and other software. The only thing you are risking is more of your time to restory and try again.
Er sorry to reply to my own post, but forgot to say I agree with you though on waiting until more reports come out though. While you cannot BRICK the iPhone, a buggy jailbreak can be annoying and/or frustrating to work with.
You cannot brick an iPhone through jailbreaking. It simply is not possible. Nothing permanent is written to the phone. A restore will fix essentially anything.
The only way to brick an iPhone now a days is to either smash it, or yank the cord during a baseband update flash. Anything else is (easily) recovered from by a restore from DFU or recovery mode.
Agreed on that front. Just hoping that having metldr access through his exploit could give SOME higher level access to enable a 'jailbreak' even if we no long have root signing authority.
Actually Android does not use Java bytecode at all.
Java is the language used to program for Android, but the code compiles into Dalvik bytecode. There is no J2ME support at all, or any Java virtual machine on the device.
You will prob never see this being AC, but you just did not pay attention. Geohot had and used an exploit and did not release it, only the results of it. This way he can keep releasing keys even if Sony changes hardware.
Explaining can be good, but geohot is from the iPhone world. There, as soon as you released details on your exploit, Apple would patch it if possible. In one case they spun new hardware mid-cycle to patch a bootrom exploit on the 3GS.
Since geohot was able to release the keys (to the kingdom) without tipping his hand in this case, is it really bad?
Would it not be possible that Sony patches whatever exploit you guys used and detailed, added a whitelist for games under the current signature, and began using a new one, possibly nullifyng much of the work you guys have (brilliantly) done?
Is the way geohot did it (using your work again, totally with you guys there for credit) not better for the community in the long run, where now unless Sony finds the vulnerability he got in through he can keep providing these keys no matter what Sony does?
Hell Sony may even reuse hardware/firmware from the PS3 in the PS4 and geohot may again be able to get in and provide keys, or at least have a jumping off point.
Again, no knock on you guys, full disclosure is cool for nerds sake, its great to know all that stuff, but the way we do it in iPhone world is always trying to do whats better for the community/users. Not tipping your hand on the exploit used may be the way to go here.
The main reason for the HFS+ requirement is to use other filesystems takes up a lot more overhead as Apple has added the ability to have hard links to directories in HFS+. This way if a directory containing 10 thousand files hasn't been modified since the last backup, all that is needed is a single hard link to that directory.
NTFS/EXT/etc do not support this.
As mentioned though, time machine backs up to many 'non supported' drives/shares etc with a simple console command, you just lose some of the goodness. Though, really, not much. I back up to my Drobo mounted as a samba share and have no issues.
Actually neither modify the baseband. A jailbreak and unlock only modify the filesystem/bootup etc. Unlocking uses an exploit to run commands on the baseband's CPU but nothing in the baseband itself is modified.
If ISPs did not oversell you wouldn't need the ISP.
Try signing up for a not oversold connection. See how much a DS3 in your house costs. It is only ~45 megabit, not that fast right ?
A full, non fractional DS3 might be around $4000 per month.
That's a bit crazy, how about a normal Ethernet connection. We pay around $500 for every 20 megabit, every month. We're currently hovering around 25 megabit steady so we pay for 40 to be ready for spikes etc. Anyone can get this, pay a grand a month and get 40 megabit home internet.
Or go with the local cable provider and get 100 megabit for $150 a month. Oversold of course.
If so this is a far larger story IMO than the DDOS.
Comcast is actually blocking access for their internet subscribers (of which the base is huge) to ANY site reporting wikileaks related stories?
This is like the great firewall of china, they are filtering what CONTENT gets to the people. Not based on any technical aspect, but that they don't think the users should even learn about it?
This is one of the most dystopian things I've ever heard of a company doing.
True, and with iPhone though as you said if you stick with iPhone, any game I originally bought for my 3G is wokring just find on my 3GS and now iPhone 4.
The thing is the main thrust of your argument is that they HAD to be that accurate. The problem is the numbers just don't agree.
A 71/84 with modern reworks has just (BARELY) been able to hit 1MOA accuracy. In the old days it was likely near ~2 MOA.
This gives you a ten inch circle at 500 yards. A 6 inch circle at 300 yards.
Even assuming 1 MOA, it makes it unlikely to hit a fingerprint at 500 yards. Even at 300 yards. Possible certainly, but not in any repeatable or reliable way. And this is in a machine rest!
Good marksmanship will come in when say, something within that MOA circle is running, bouncing, etc.
Keep in mind I'm not saying they were bad marksman, etc, but the level of accuracy you're claiming is simply not possible.
Making ever shot count IS possible. A man sized target being shot at from ~500 yards from a Mauser of the time would certainly be an attainable goal.
As you mention the K98 was the German's main rifle during large parts of the war, and again, it in perfect condition is capable of around 1MOA from machine rest. Average from human hands was of course higher.
Anyways, the boers were an interesting group and no doubt great marksmen, but you can't overcome physics.
iOS is a huge booming platform for games, which dwarfs pretty much everything.
The main reason is obviously some decent games, ability to have games RFN, and of course, the 1-5$ pricing.
I could see the Playstation phone having the first two,but the last? Not sure how well it will compete if it can't live up to the iPhone/Android pricing model. I certainly wouldn't move from paying $1-5 for some suprisingly good games, to $30.
All of these analogies are stupid because you'd be busted for illegally distributing copyright work for a profit, not for breaking the encryption.
Also, fair use specifically says for personal use or commercial use will factor into a court decision on whether it would constitute fair use, where I couldn't find any such limitation in the LoC exemption.
Ya stuff like a thumb print at 500 meters is just insane and impossible.
A modern standard military sniper rifle is around 1 minute of angle(MOA) accuracy. So roughly, at 500 yards (close enough to meters), groups will be shot within a 5 inch circle. The chance of you hitting a thumb print is fairly small.
Even the best guns from a machine rest shoot 0.25ish MOA, so this is a 1.25 inch circle area at 500 yards. Keeping in mind this is a scoped modern rifle, with a modern bullet, in a clamp on a bench.
The ballistics and metallurgy of the time obviously would not even allow for a fraction of this accuracy, never mind actually holding the gun while taking a shot. And the above post mentioned Muskets, which obviously would be hard pressed to hit something the size of a human at 500 yards, nevermind a thumb print.
The largest species of normal 'deer' (not elk/moose etc) is the mule deer, which almost never tops 200-250lbs. Yes you can get the rare one topping 500, but this is like winning the lottery. If you hit one it might just pay for your car damage!
Unless the driver swerves into trees/ditch/cliff etc injuries are almost certainly not going to happen.
I can almost see someone bringing this up to Ballmer, and him saying 'well the iPhone came out without proper exchange support, only multitasking for their apps (actually no apps!), etc etc, and they sold almost half a million units!'
As mentioned, Microsoft just has the cash to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks, even if they go through 10 truckloads of shit while doing so.
Well, relatively speaking not really. They are the smallest type of (real)loader you can possibly buy. Commonly known though one of the brands that makes them. (Bobcats).
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True but it isn't like other devices which write to bootrom etc and as long as everything goes well you're ok.
With the iPhone, you can yank the cord mid jailbreak, or at pretty much anytime during any firmware flash sequence as long as it isn't when the baseband is being written to. Like i said almost nothing you can do to well and truly BRICK an iPhone.
It's for this reason why its safe to try beta jailbreaks and other software. The only thing you are risking is more of your time to restory and try again.
Er sorry to reply to my own post, but forgot to say I agree with you though on waiting until more reports come out though. While you cannot BRICK the iPhone, a buggy jailbreak can be annoying and/or frustrating to work with.
You cannot brick an iPhone through jailbreaking. It simply is not possible. Nothing permanent is written to the phone. A restore will fix essentially anything.
The only way to brick an iPhone now a days is to either smash it, or yank the cord during a baseband update flash. Anything else is (easily) recovered from by a restore from DFU or recovery mode.
Agreed on that front. Just hoping that having metldr access through his exploit could give SOME higher level access to enable a 'jailbreak' even if we no long have root signing authority.
Unless the exploit geohot used is still there since he has not disclosed it. There could possibly be something done again.
Actually Android does not use Java bytecode at all.
Java is the language used to program for Android, but the code compiles into Dalvik bytecode. There is no J2ME support at all, or any Java virtual machine on the device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Features
Look at Java Support.
You will prob never see this being AC, but you just did not pay attention. Geohot had and used an exploit and did not release it, only the results of it. This way he can keep releasing keys even if Sony changes hardware.
Re-read the post I made.
Explaining can be good, but geohot is from the iPhone world. There, as soon as you released details on your exploit, Apple would patch it if possible. In one case they spun new hardware mid-cycle to patch a bootrom exploit on the 3GS.
Since geohot was able to release the keys (to the kingdom) without tipping his hand in this case, is it really bad?
Would it not be possible that Sony patches whatever exploit you guys used and detailed, added a whitelist for games under the current signature, and began using a new one, possibly nullifyng much of the work you guys have (brilliantly) done?
Is the way geohot did it (using your work again, totally with you guys there for credit) not better for the community in the long run, where now unless Sony finds the vulnerability he got in through he can keep providing these keys no matter what Sony does?
Hell Sony may even reuse hardware/firmware from the PS3 in the PS4 and geohot may again be able to get in and provide keys, or at least have a jumping off point.
Again, no knock on you guys, full disclosure is cool for nerds sake, its great to know all that stuff, but the way we do it in iPhone world is always trying to do whats better for the community/users. Not tipping your hand on the exploit used may be the way to go here.
I agree, you are scum. You are one of the sheep that will sit there as your liberties are chipped away at, until they are gone.
We are at war with Terror. We have always been at war with Terror.
Yes I would kent.
The main reason for the HFS+ requirement is to use other filesystems takes up a lot more overhead as Apple has added the ability to have hard links to directories in HFS+. This way if a directory containing 10 thousand files hasn't been modified since the last backup, all that is needed is a single hard link to that directory.
NTFS/EXT/etc do not support this.
As mentioned though, time machine backs up to many 'non supported' drives/shares etc with a simple console command, you just lose some of the goodness. Though, really, not much. I back up to my Drobo mounted as a samba share and have no issues.
Actually neither modify the baseband. A jailbreak and unlock only modify the filesystem/bootup etc. Unlocking uses an exploit to run commands on the baseband's CPU but nothing in the baseband itself is modified.
If ISPs did not oversell you wouldn't need the ISP.
Try signing up for a not oversold connection. See how much a DS3 in your house costs. It is only ~45 megabit, not that fast right ?
A full, non fractional DS3 might be around $4000 per month.
That's a bit crazy, how about a normal Ethernet connection. We pay around $500 for every 20 megabit, every month. We're currently hovering around 25 megabit steady so we pay for 40 to be ready for spikes etc. Anyone can get this, pay a grand a month and get 40 megabit home internet.
Or go with the local cable provider and get 100 megabit for $150 a month. Oversold of course.
Yet another reason to Jailbreak. So easy to stop that.
To be fair no app has ever been remote killed AFAIK.
Ah, k. Because you present it that it is actually happening, without any hint of sarcasm.
Is this true?
If so this is a far larger story IMO than the DDOS.
Comcast is actually blocking access for their internet subscribers (of which the base is huge) to ANY site reporting wikileaks related stories?
This is like the great firewall of china, they are filtering what CONTENT gets to the people. Not based on any technical aspect, but that they don't think the users should even learn about it?
This is one of the most dystopian things I've ever heard of a company doing.
True, and with iPhone though as you said if you stick with iPhone, any game I originally bought for my 3G is wokring just find on my 3GS and now iPhone 4.
The thing is the main thrust of your argument is that they HAD to be that accurate. The problem is the numbers just don't agree.
A 71/84 with modern reworks has just (BARELY) been able to hit 1MOA accuracy. In the old days it was likely near ~2 MOA.
This gives you a ten inch circle at 500 yards. A 6 inch circle at 300 yards.
Even assuming 1 MOA, it makes it unlikely to hit a fingerprint at 500 yards. Even at 300 yards. Possible certainly, but not in any repeatable or reliable way. And this is in a machine rest!
Good marksmanship will come in when say, something within that MOA circle is running, bouncing, etc.
Keep in mind I'm not saying they were bad marksman, etc, but the level of accuracy you're claiming is simply not possible.
Making ever shot count IS possible. A man sized target being shot at from ~500 yards from a Mauser of the time would certainly be an attainable goal.
As you mention the K98 was the German's main rifle during large parts of the war, and again, it in perfect condition is capable of around 1MOA from machine rest. Average from human hands was of course higher.
Anyways, the boers were an interesting group and no doubt great marksmen, but you can't overcome physics.
iOS is a huge booming platform for games, which dwarfs pretty much everything.
The main reason is obviously some decent games, ability to have games RFN, and of course, the 1-5$ pricing.
I could see the Playstation phone having the first two,but the last? Not sure how well it will compete if it can't live up to the iPhone/Android pricing model. I certainly wouldn't move from paying $1-5 for some suprisingly good games, to $30.
All of these analogies are stupid because you'd be busted for illegally distributing copyright work for a profit, not for breaking the encryption.
Also, fair use specifically says for personal use or commercial use will factor into a court decision on whether it would constitute fair use, where I couldn't find any such limitation in the LoC exemption.
Ya stuff like a thumb print at 500 meters is just insane and impossible.
A modern standard military sniper rifle is around 1 minute of angle(MOA) accuracy. So roughly, at 500 yards (close enough to meters), groups will be shot within a 5 inch circle. The chance of you hitting a thumb print is fairly small.
Even the best guns from a machine rest shoot 0.25ish MOA, so this is a 1.25 inch circle area at 500 yards. Keeping in mind this is a scoped modern rifle, with a modern bullet, in a clamp on a bench.
The ballistics and metallurgy of the time obviously would not even allow for a fraction of this accuracy, never mind actually holding the gun while taking a shot. And the above post mentioned Muskets, which obviously would be hard pressed to hit something the size of a human at 500 yards, nevermind a thumb print.
The largest species of normal 'deer' (not elk/moose etc) is the mule deer, which almost never tops 200-250lbs. Yes you can get the rare one topping 500, but this is like winning the lottery. If you hit one it might just pay for your car damage!
Unless the driver swerves into trees/ditch/cliff etc injuries are almost certainly not going to happen.
I can almost see someone bringing this up to Ballmer, and him saying 'well the iPhone came out without proper exchange support, only multitasking for their apps (actually no apps!), etc etc, and they sold almost half a million units!'
As mentioned, Microsoft just has the cash to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks, even if they go through 10 truckloads of shit while doing so.
Well, one anecdotal result, never mind guys. Cancel all those surveys/articles talking about shockingly high doubt digit failure rates.
Well, relatively speaking not really. They are the smallest type of (real)loader you can possibly buy. Commonly known though one of the brands that makes them. (Bobcats).