That's a funny way to look at it. I would think of watching the movie as a spoiler for the graphic novel.
And the only thing I've heard about its relationship to the book is that Alan Moore read the script before they shot and said it was as "close as could be hoped." Considering what happened when they did V for Vendetta and the League of Extraordinary Gentleman, I can't imagine Moore must have very high standards for the film industry.
I'm going to wait for reviews and the movie-crowds to die down, and in the meantime, I'll re-read the book.
That's assuming you have the equipment to get at them and process the raw materials, or anybody else there who could trade with you for the right to get at them.
Though I imagine not having to offer up a little baksheesh to the local policemen (YMMV may vary depending on your state and county, actually) to get them to do their job must be nice.
According to the article Google says it's an artifact of the sonar process used to collect the data on the seafloor: apparently they're the path the boats took when imaging the area.
I'm getting a bit sick of the orange. They've exhausted that color like they have brown. I just hope that if anything does change beyond switching out GTK engines they pick a sensible color, something exactly unlike, say, cherry red or hot pink or vomit green. Which all make about as much sense as brown and orange.
No, because 100% reliable offsites don't exist AFAIK. Anyways, I wasn't saying it was like an enterprise solution, just pointing out that running apache is quite literally a point-and-click matter in OS X, as opposed what the troll I was responding to was saying.
Shuttleworth has been promising big overhauls to the default look since Dapper Drake. There have been incremental improvements but on the whole the basic theme really hasn't changed.
While it doesn't matter to me because I'm literate enough in GNOME to install new themes, I would love to see the Ubuntu folks actually follow through on their promises to really do a nice theme.
I had no idea anyone actually used Mac's as servers. Sure, I bet you can get apache running or something but I didn't realize anyone had.
I've done it loads of times. It's actually easier than on Linux or Windows. What's the process, you ask? Open up system preferences, navigate to sharing, and check "web sharing."
Boom. Apache. It's hardly a secret: Among a certain market segment, the fact that OS X is built on on a good deal of OSS is quite the selling point.
That's funny, I thought the Aztec, Maya, Zapotec, and Mixtec all lived in North and Central America? I was assuming that since we were talking coca any proposed contact would be between South Americans and Egyptians because to the best of my knowledge coca is only found in S.A. (I don't know for a fact, I'm making a pseudo-educated guess) I'm very well aware of the existence of Native American writing systems- just not of any South American ones (excepting the quipu but since we don't even know how they worked and if they could contain linguistic information I don't think it's fair to say they count)
Whats the big deal, are you so sure that over the thousands of years these civilizations existed, nobody ever made a boat trip across the atlantic?
When two cultures interact it tends to leave a distinct mark in the archaeological record. People write about it, they talk about it, there's artifacts of foreign origin, and so on. The Akkadians wrote about contacts with the Indus valley civilization, and sure enough, they had Indus artifacts. During the Second Intermediate Period, Egyptians and Minoans were very friendly with one another: we know about it because they wrote about it and there are Egyptian artifacts in Crete and Cretan artifacts and building styles in Egypt.
I'm not saying that contact between the Old/New worlds didn't occur (in fact, it wasn't even an idea I'd ever heard of until a conversation I had with some dude I met on the bus last week, so I'm still trying to suss out its merits as an idea) but it is very anomalous that neither side would have seen fit to write about it (Well, the South Americans get a free pass here because AFAIK there were no literate societies in South America prior to European contact). Egypt is also very oddly placed to be conducting trade with the New World. Back in the day, Crete was far off and exotic, and that's not even halfway across the Mediterranean. So they crossed the entirety of the Mediterranean, entered the Atlantic (which would be mind-shatteringly strange to an Egyptian who's used to a narrow stretch of Nile and inhabitable soil around the Nile, and lots of desert everywhere else, certainly that would be worth talking about), crossed it, and found their way back?
The reverse makes even less sense. So some South Americans crossed the Atlantic, just happened to bump into the Pillars of Hercules, crossed the entirety of the Mediterranean without running into anybody but the Egyptians, who are on the far east side of the M-Sea, and conducted trade under NDA with them?
They weren't about to paint their tombs with farm records. I'm sure all kinds of cross pollination happened all over the planet in the thousands and thousands of years these large trading civilizations existed. Why is that so amazing, unbelievable or even that interesting?
The Egyptians were notorious bureaucrats. They wrote a lot more than just tomb curses. Any society where at the end of a battle they go 'round and count how many hands every soldier cut off is going to make a lot of written records. It would be both amazing and interesting because a cross-cultural contact of that distance at that level of technical development in either society would be very literally unprecedented.
Just because some young civilization that now claims to have done everything first (europe) wants to be remembered as FIRST to cross the oceans, doesn't make it so. I'm sure the Egyptians, in all their many many years, could build some ships to make the journey. Entire Egyptian dynasties came and went in a time span dwarfing the few centuries that europe has been out of the stone age.
Speaking as someone studying the history and geography of the ancient Near East and specifically focusing on Egyptians at the moment, I have to express a certain degree of skepticism. The Egyptians were shitty sailors. It's probably one of the reasons they were such good buddies with the Minoans- they were good at building river-craft and funerary vessels that are buried along with the pharoah, but if there's one thing the Egyptians were never known for, it's sailing around the open seas. Also, the average Egyptian dynasty lasted between 100-200 years, so you might want to revise that assertion. They had like 25 dynasties.
I dunno. I'm skeptical. It's not physically impossible but an old world/new world trade route, especially exclusive to Egypt, is so implausible I'd like to exhaust all other explanations other than "Aliens did it" before I settled on that.
I was looking forward to Microsoft possibly putting out an operating system that didn't suck awfully- and then it turns out that they deliberately introduce nonsense like degrading audio input quality while sound is playing. I beg your pardon, MS, but this appears to be _my_ machine and I'd like to use it to its full potential and not some RIAA-sanctioned subset that means I can't record my own speaker output or use a 3rd-party DLL!
Admittedly, I don't ever actually need to record speaker output, but that strikes me as one of those situations where it's none of Microsoft's business and I should be able to if need be.
Not really. In this case it appears they've gone out of their way to make sure you can only run a particular version of a DLL and seems to lock you out of your own settings directories if they catch you running a different one. In Linux, they just set the permissions so that only root can modify the files, and not give out the root password to anyone who asks.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. In the case of GIMP all they've done is give you the opportunity to flatten the image right there in the save dialog workflow, saving you the unnecessary bother of having to try again after flattening the image.
Part of what drives evolution is a continual arms race between organisms that want to kill other organisms, and organisms that don't like to be killed. Right now this sponge has the upper hand over bacteria (that, admittedly, may not have killing the sponge as their primary goal but probably don't make life any easier) but that's no guarantee that bacteria won't evolve around it and gain the upper hand again, like what happened with people + antibiotics vs. bacteria.
EVENTUALLY I figured out that it wanted me to flatten the image (i.e., merge visible layers) first. What? WHY? Gimp has NEVER required that.
Oh yes it does and it has as long as I've used it. It just depends on the format you're using: if the image you're working on has more than one layer but the image format you're saving to doesn't support layers then the GIMP asks you to flatten the image before saving. The GIMP is apparently also better about letting you know that it needs to flatten it than whatever PS ran on MacOS 8.
Doing something socialist-ish (Developing an OS with government resources I would hesitate to call socialist: if they nationalized the Russian OS industry, that'd look more socialist to me) doesn't make you a socialist in my book. Russia is still a market economy.
Hey, Americans are dumb (and really, the only place where being "socialist" is something you have to worry about really would be the US). Many probably still associate Russia with communism, even though it was socialist when it was Soviet and hasn't been Soviet for ~20ish years now.
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That's a funny way to look at it. I would think of watching the movie as a spoiler for the graphic novel.
And the only thing I've heard about its relationship to the book is that Alan Moore read the script before they shot and said it was as "close as could be hoped." Considering what happened when they did V for Vendetta and the League of Extraordinary Gentleman, I can't imagine Moore must have very high standards for the film industry.
I'm going to wait for reviews and the movie-crowds to die down, and in the meantime, I'll re-read the book.
That's assuming you have the equipment to get at them and process the raw materials, or anybody else there who could trade with you for the right to get at them.
God, I'm not even sure whether to mod you funny or insightful.
Well yeah, but you need the BASIC interpreter installed to run it, so it's not like it does anything on 99% of systems.
Though I imagine not having to offer up a little baksheesh to the local policemen (YMMV may vary depending on your state and county, actually) to get them to do their job must be nice.
LXDE and IceWM might be good options though.
But we're only still talking about them because they threw their republic into the gutter, became a military dictatorship and built an empire.
According to the article Google says it's an artifact of the sonar process used to collect the data on the seafloor: apparently they're the path the boats took when imaging the area.
I'm getting a bit sick of the orange. They've exhausted that color like they have brown. I just hope that if anything does change beyond switching out GTK engines they pick a sensible color, something exactly unlike, say, cherry red or hot pink or vomit green. Which all make about as much sense as brown and orange.
No, because 100% reliable offsites don't exist AFAIK. Anyways, I wasn't saying it was like an enterprise solution, just pointing out that running apache is quite literally a point-and-click matter in OS X, as opposed what the troll I was responding to was saying.
Shuttleworth has been promising big overhauls to the default look since Dapper Drake. There have been incremental improvements but on the whole the basic theme really hasn't changed.
While it doesn't matter to me because I'm literate enough in GNOME to install new themes, I would love to see the Ubuntu folks actually follow through on their promises to really do a nice theme.
I had no idea anyone actually used Mac's as servers. Sure, I bet you can get apache running or something but I didn't realize anyone had.
I've done it loads of times. It's actually easier than on Linux or Windows. What's the process, you ask? Open up system preferences, navigate to sharing, and check "web sharing."
Boom. Apache. It's hardly a secret: Among a certain market segment, the fact that OS X is built on on a good deal of OSS is quite the selling point.
That's funny, I thought the Aztec, Maya, Zapotec, and Mixtec all lived in North and Central America? I was assuming that since we were talking coca any proposed contact would be between South Americans and Egyptians because to the best of my knowledge coca is only found in S.A. (I don't know for a fact, I'm making a pseudo-educated guess) I'm very well aware of the existence of Native American writing systems- just not of any South American ones (excepting the quipu but since we don't even know how they worked and if they could contain linguistic information I don't think it's fair to say they count)
Whats the big deal, are you so sure that over the thousands of years these civilizations existed, nobody ever made a boat trip across the atlantic?
When two cultures interact it tends to leave a distinct mark in the archaeological record. People write about it, they talk about it, there's artifacts of foreign origin, and so on. The Akkadians wrote about contacts with the Indus valley civilization, and sure enough, they had Indus artifacts. During the Second Intermediate Period, Egyptians and Minoans were very friendly with one another: we know about it because they wrote about it and there are Egyptian artifacts in Crete and Cretan artifacts and building styles in Egypt.
I'm not saying that contact between the Old/New worlds didn't occur (in fact, it wasn't even an idea I'd ever heard of until a conversation I had with some dude I met on the bus last week, so I'm still trying to suss out its merits as an idea) but it is very anomalous that neither side would have seen fit to write about it (Well, the South Americans get a free pass here because AFAIK there were no literate societies in South America prior to European contact). Egypt is also very oddly placed to be conducting trade with the New World. Back in the day, Crete was far off and exotic, and that's not even halfway across the Mediterranean. So they crossed the entirety of the Mediterranean, entered the Atlantic (which would be mind-shatteringly strange to an Egyptian who's used to a narrow stretch of Nile and inhabitable soil around the Nile, and lots of desert everywhere else, certainly that would be worth talking about), crossed it, and found their way back?
The reverse makes even less sense. So some South Americans crossed the Atlantic, just happened to bump into the Pillars of Hercules, crossed the entirety of the Mediterranean without running into anybody but the Egyptians, who are on the far east side of the M-Sea, and conducted trade under NDA with them?
They weren't about to paint their tombs with farm records. I'm sure all kinds of cross pollination happened all over the planet in the thousands and thousands of years these large trading civilizations existed. Why is that so amazing, unbelievable or even that interesting?
The Egyptians were notorious bureaucrats. They wrote a lot more than just tomb curses. Any society where at the end of a battle they go 'round and count how many hands every soldier cut off is going to make a lot of written records. It would be both amazing and interesting because a cross-cultural contact of that distance at that level of technical development in either society would be very literally unprecedented.
Just because some young civilization that now claims to have done everything first (europe) wants to be remembered as FIRST to cross the oceans, doesn't make it so. I'm sure the Egyptians, in all their many many years, could build some ships to make the journey. Entire Egyptian dynasties came and went in a time span dwarfing the few centuries that europe has been out of the stone age.
Speaking as someone studying the history and geography of the ancient Near East and specifically focusing on Egyptians at the moment, I have to express a certain degree of skepticism. The Egyptians were shitty sailors. It's probably one of the reasons they were such good buddies with the Minoans- they were good at building river-craft and funerary vessels that are buried along with the pharoah, but if there's one thing the Egyptians were never known for, it's sailing around the open seas. Also, the average Egyptian dynasty lasted between 100-200 years, so you might want to revise that assertion. They had like 25 dynasties.
I dunno. I'm skeptical. It's not physically impossible but an old world/new world trade route, especially exclusive to Egypt, is so implausible I'd like to exhaust all other explanations other than "Aliens did it" before I settled on that.
I was looking forward to Microsoft possibly putting out an operating system that didn't suck awfully- and then it turns out that they deliberately introduce nonsense like degrading audio input quality while sound is playing. I beg your pardon, MS, but this appears to be _my_ machine and I'd like to use it to its full potential and not some RIAA-sanctioned subset that means I can't record my own speaker output or use a 3rd-party DLL!
Admittedly, I don't ever actually need to record speaker output, but that strikes me as one of those situations where it's none of Microsoft's business and I should be able to if need be.
Not really. In this case it appears they've gone out of their way to make sure you can only run a particular version of a DLL and seems to lock you out of your own settings directories if they catch you running a different one. In Linux, they just set the permissions so that only root can modify the files, and not give out the root password to anyone who asks.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. In the case of GIMP all they've done is give you the opportunity to flatten the image right there in the save dialog workflow, saving you the unnecessary bother of having to try again after flattening the image.
Nobody wants to pay higher prices, least of all me, but I value human rights enough (and computer hardware so little) that I'd make the trade.
Part of what drives evolution is a continual arms race between organisms that want to kill other organisms, and organisms that don't like to be killed. Right now this sponge has the upper hand over bacteria (that, admittedly, may not have killing the sponge as their primary goal but probably don't make life any easier) but that's no guarantee that bacteria won't evolve around it and gain the upper hand again, like what happened with people + antibiotics vs. bacteria.
EVENTUALLY I figured out that it wanted me to flatten the image (i.e., merge visible layers) first. What? WHY? Gimp has NEVER required that.
Oh yes it does and it has as long as I've used it. It just depends on the format you're using: if the image you're working on has more than one layer but the image format you're saving to doesn't support layers then the GIMP asks you to flatten the image before saving. The GIMP is apparently also better about letting you know that it needs to flatten it than whatever PS ran on MacOS 8.
Why does this have to be a partisan issue? Open access to gov-funded research sounds like one of those good ideas that everyone can agree on.
So where is it?
Doing something socialist-ish (Developing an OS with government resources I would hesitate to call socialist: if they nationalized the Russian OS industry, that'd look more socialist to me) doesn't make you a socialist in my book. Russia is still a market economy.
Hey, Americans are dumb (and really, the only place where being "socialist" is something you have to worry about really would be the US). Many probably still associate Russia with communism, even though it was socialist when it was Soviet and hasn't been Soviet for ~20ish years now.
You know, since the editors never do any actual editing, maybe it's time to call them something else.
I already do. However, it's not polite so I won't repeat it here. ;)