I skimmed throught the comments and saw a lot of "Blizzard owns the data not me" and "they can't trace my character to me" replies. I'm pretty sure that when this finally goes through the license agreements will be changed and accounts will be tracked differently to compensate for the new laws.
I hope as much as the next gamer that something like this never goes through, but when I sit back and try to think realistically... it's really only a matter of time. Maybe enough money hasn't changed hands yet, or the right guy hasn't seen the potential yet, but sooner or later it/he will.
Maybe a better response from the gamers would be, not, what can we do to prevent this, but what could we get the government to do with a portion of that money once they have it. It's only realistic and fair(I'm trying to be optimistic) that if part of the National fund comes from gaming that part of it be returned to gaming.
I'm definitely 'others' when I'm on my linux boxes, I would use firefox but it keeps finding ways to annoy me. Anyone know how to change the default hotkeys in firefox? Everytime I switch back to Gnome from a console it whines about something to do with caret browsing...
I just meant that they were trying to pass them off as a good thing. They're bugs, call them bugs and fix them, don't pretend they're a good thing.
It seems like Microsoft is getting a little more lax than usual about what they let slip out the door. Maybe I just notice it more now that I work in IT...
I can see Mr. LeBlanc's point, that it's better to crash than open up your system, but it seems like they are taking this awfully lightheartedly. They're still bugs and they still need fixed. I think they are confusing debug features with release features.
Heh, I went the other way not too long ago. I started with Ubuntu, but the more familiar I got with linux, the more I hated Ubuntu. I finally switched to openSuse a few months ago(mainly because it was the only distro I could get running on my laptop at the time) and fell in love with it. I finally completely shed myself of Ubuntu when the box I had at home wouldn't let me even log in anymore. I haven't really looked back.
I will say that I don't like a lot of the defaults in 10.2, especially the main menu it has by default. Hadn't really noticed the font thing though.
I'm surprised they left the Xbox remake of bomberman off the list. How many people did that box art let down? I suppose from an artistic standpoint it wasn't so bad, but it was totally misleading.
I wonder what they would find if they did a study to see what type of person was the most violent inside a video game? I bet it wouldn't be the people who are violent in the real world.
Then they told other people, and pretty soon loads of people were convinced to switch from IE just to be away from IE. Then all the people who switched just because someone told them firefox was better started wanting all their web pages to work again. It's a vicious cycle I tell you.
In one of the older versions(after they dropped the codename raptor and went live) of oracle's sqlDeveloper, after your session with the DB had timed out you could just execute a query a couple times to renew your session rather than logging out and logging back in. I know its a considerable security flaw but it was damn handy.
Its nowhere near as big of a problem as people make it out to be, and the list of incompatible games shrinks everytime a new update comes out. Microsoft is just getting scared of the PS3 now that it has finally lauched and started to pick up a little steam. I'm sure the PS3's success with its European launch got them thinking a little bit too.
I agree, I don't think wikipedia should require credentials.
My personal view of things is this: It doesn't make any difference whatsoever what the dictionary/encyclopedia/academia says something means, what's important is what the general public thinks something means. If the dictionary says a thong is a kind of shoe and the general public thinks its a kind of underwear there will be confusion regardless of what the definition really is.
I've never edited wikipedia so I don't know the process, but how about this for a reasonably simple solution. Create a section in the wikipedia pages for 'authoritative' info. Only let people whose credentials have been verified by whatever process add the section to the pages. That way someone could see an authoritative definition/description along with everything else. Maybe more people would be open to accepting wikipedia as a valid source of information then too.
If they did track the IP, all they would get would be the machine where the attack came from which wouldn't really be all that helpful at a university anyway. They probably keep track of the username.
...just make you want to slap a guy. "It looks too much like a game" so what? It sure looks to me like its selling and I thought it was an awsome movie when I finally got to see it(it was sold out all weekend).
Back to the point though, what aversion do these people have against video games? Is it because they were fun? Is it because they didn't get to play them when they were little? Or maybe its because whole teams of artists of different kinds actually work together to make something that a normal person would look at more than once.
I just don't get it, a baby could take a crap in a diaper and these people would call it art, but if that diaper moves when you push a button...
Maybe, but I still bought all of the UTs, Battlefield 2, Quake 3 and others(knowing that I wouldn't be able to play them online) because they would let you play single player. The online side may be the best part of it but that's no excuse to cut out the other part of the game. You don't hear too many complaints about UT and Battlefield because their single player mode sucks, you hear how awsome the multiplayer is.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remeber him saying that this would be a replacement for either the store, message system or main menu its just an extra option you can use if you want to. It doesn't really interest me, but I think it looks like a good idea for those who would enjoy it and the fact that its free is even better.
Another thing to consider, I'm sure everyone is thrilled about in game advertising, but why not? It would make it easier to justify a price drop and as long as it doesn't get out of hand, would blend in all the same. Why not see Mountain Dew bottles laying around instead of some pretend brand a dev had to come up with to keep from breaking copyright laws?
I'll agree that the support is nice and that aspect of steam is a good one, but they shouldn't force the updates down the gamers throats and they shouldn't require an internet connection for a single player game.
No offense intended but you guys are the only people I've ever heard say anything about steam that didn't involve a lot of swearing, things flying across the room and the death of small animals...
What turned me against steam was the fact that I went out and bought Half-Life 2 took it home, installed it and had to wait half a day for it to get the required updates because they didn't even ship the full game on the disc(90-95% if I remember right). I could understand if it was an MMO or something along that line, but the least they can do is put a working copy of the game on the cd/dvd you buy.
I can't honestly see how a company that would do that to its customers would have the nerve to complain about someone else's methods, even if it is microsoft.
Is spyware acceptable to the public when it comes with a game, or has EA made a PR misstep?"
When was the last time EA made a good marketing decision?
Maybe this is just a cry for help from the programmers that are chained to their desks in the basement...
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I skimmed throught the comments and saw a lot of "Blizzard owns the data not me" and "they can't trace my character to me" replies. I'm pretty sure that when this finally goes through the license agreements will be changed and accounts will be tracked differently to compensate for the new laws.
I hope as much as the next gamer that something like this never goes through, but when I sit back and try to think realistically... it's really only a matter of time. Maybe enough money hasn't changed hands yet, or the right guy hasn't seen the potential yet, but sooner or later it/he will.
Maybe a better response from the gamers would be, not, what can we do to prevent this, but what could we get the government to do with a portion of that money once they have it. It's only realistic and fair(I'm trying to be optimistic) that if part of the National fund comes from gaming that part of it be returned to gaming.
I'm definitely 'others' when I'm on my linux boxes, I would use firefox but it keeps finding ways to annoy me. Anyone know how to change the default hotkeys in firefox? Everytime I switch back to Gnome from a console it whines about something to do with caret browsing...
I just meant that they were trying to pass them off as a good thing. They're bugs, call them bugs and fix them, don't pretend they're a good thing.
It seems like Microsoft is getting a little more lax than usual about what they let slip out the door. Maybe I just notice it more now that I work in IT...
I can see Mr. LeBlanc's point, that it's better to crash than open up your system, but it seems like they are taking this awfully lightheartedly. They're still bugs and they still need fixed. I think they are confusing debug features with release features.
Heh, I went the other way not too long ago. I started with Ubuntu, but the more familiar I got with linux, the more I hated Ubuntu. I finally switched to openSuse a few months ago(mainly because it was the only distro I could get running on my laptop at the time) and fell in love with it. I finally completely shed myself of Ubuntu when the box I had at home wouldn't let me even log in anymore. I haven't really looked back.
I will say that I don't like a lot of the defaults in 10.2, especially the main menu it has by default. Hadn't really noticed the font thing though.
So how long will it be before they come out with laws against digital subletting?
Yeah, I suppose you're right. Still, quite disappointing.
I'm surprised they left the Xbox remake of bomberman off the list. How many people did that box art let down? I suppose from an artistic standpoint it wasn't so bad, but it was totally misleading.
I wonder what they would find if they did a study to see what type of person was the most violent inside a video game? I bet it wouldn't be the people who are violent in the real world.
Thoughts?
People started using it...
Then they told other people, and pretty soon loads of people were convinced to switch from IE just to be away from IE. Then all the people who switched just because someone told them firefox was better started wanting all their web pages to work again. It's a vicious cycle I tell you.
In one of the older versions(after they dropped the codename raptor and went live) of oracle's sqlDeveloper, after your session with the DB had timed out you could just execute a query a couple times to renew your session rather than logging out and logging back in. I know its a considerable security flaw but it was damn handy.
Its nowhere near as big of a problem as people make it out to be, and the list of incompatible games shrinks everytime a new update comes out. Microsoft is just getting scared of the PS3 now that it has finally lauched and started to pick up a little steam. I'm sure the PS3's success with its European launch got them thinking a little bit too.
The trailer was pretty good, if it's all in-game stuff like they claim it will be an awsome game. I don't see them going under any time soon.
I agree, I don't think wikipedia should require credentials.
My personal view of things is this: It doesn't make any difference whatsoever what the dictionary/encyclopedia/academia says something means, what's important is what the general public thinks something means. If the dictionary says a thong is a kind of shoe and the general public thinks its a kind of underwear there will be confusion regardless of what the definition really is.
I've never edited wikipedia so I don't know the process, but how about this for a reasonably simple solution. Create a section in the wikipedia pages for 'authoritative' info. Only let people whose credentials have been verified by whatever process add the section to the pages. That way someone could see an authoritative definition/description along with everything else. Maybe more people would be open to accepting wikipedia as a valid source of information then too.
If they did track the IP, all they would get would be the machine where the attack came from which wouldn't really be all that helpful at a university anyway. They probably keep track of the username.
...just make you want to slap a guy. "It looks too much like a game" so what? It sure looks to me like its selling and I thought it was an awsome movie when I finally got to see it(it was sold out all weekend).
Back to the point though, what aversion do these people have against video games? Is it because they were fun? Is it because they didn't get to play them when they were little? Or maybe its because whole teams of artists of different kinds actually work together to make something that a normal person would look at more than once.
I just don't get it, a baby could take a crap in a diaper and these people would call it art, but if that diaper moves when you push a button...
Maybe, but I still bought all of the UTs, Battlefield 2, Quake 3 and others(knowing that I wouldn't be able to play them online) because they would let you play single player. The online side may be the best part of it but that's no excuse to cut out the other part of the game. You don't hear too many complaints about UT and Battlefield because their single player mode sucks, you hear how awsome the multiplayer is.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remeber him saying that this would be a replacement for either the store, message system or main menu its just an extra option you can use if you want to. It doesn't really interest me, but I think it looks like a good idea for those who would enjoy it and the fact that its free is even better.
Another thing to consider, I'm sure everyone is thrilled about in game advertising, but why not? It would make it easier to justify a price drop and as long as it doesn't get out of hand, would blend in all the same. Why not see Mountain Dew bottles laying around instead of some pretend brand a dev had to come up with to keep from breaking copyright laws?
I'll agree that the support is nice and that aspect of steam is a good one, but they shouldn't force the updates down the gamers throats and they shouldn't require an internet connection for a single player game.
No offense intended but you guys are the only people I've ever heard say anything about steam that didn't involve a lot of swearing, things flying across the room and the death of small animals...
What turned me against steam was the fact that I went out and bought Half-Life 2 took it home, installed it and had to wait half a day for it to get the required updates because they didn't even ship the full game on the disc(90-95% if I remember right). I could understand if it was an MMO or something along that line, but the least they can do is put a working copy of the game on the cd/dvd you buy. I can't honestly see how a company that would do that to its customers would have the nerve to complain about someone else's methods, even if it is microsoft.