If the user isn't the administrator, then I could, but for the average every-day user?
I'm more tech savvy than most and I still find Linux to be a pain in the ass when installing applications and setting up stuff. The problem is while most distros share a general code base, a lot is slightly different enough to make compiling/installing apps a royalpain, and the documentation is often less than stellar.
Having recently put a lot of effort in getting Gentoo, Ubuntu, KUbuntu, and before that spending several years with Red Had machines, I cannot see giving normal users Linux machines.
segways move a lot slower than cars, and are a lot smaller (nad hence easier to manuver), so the vision needed to safly naviage one is a lot less. So, no, it actually/wouldn't/ be a danger to those walking around.
Why, there are plenty of valid reasons for getting/using them. It's not just an "I have too much money on my hands" kind of thing.
Ex, I've got bad vision and can't drive a street operated motor vehicle. A segway could actually be useful for me in this case, especially in a city with less than sufficient mass transit.
Now, Yes, I could ride a bike, but so could everyone who drives their own car.
My thoughts exactly - I saw that article and I'm thinking, with a little help from the parent, why can't the kids go use Python or PHP??
They are easy to install on any OS (I could use portupgrade in my BSD box, or download the installers in my Windows machine), and we have something that is pretty darn good.
Actually, in my oppinion, I found those easier to use than the earlier basic. With a little looking at the libraries available, a tech savvy parent can get all the ease of use out of them, for the child, as well.
Caveat: Not every machine has these languages, and they are not as ubiquitous as BASIC was, so the children won't get all of the media, unless they plan to learn 2 or 3 languages, and without parents with basic tech skills, they may not even be able to get these installed. Still, it's not a bad idea.
OK, you are making an assumption: that people in the earliest days of computer program were even remotely would consider to be "typical programmers".
That couldn't be farther from the truth.
The concept of a steam engine seems fairly obvious now, pressure from the steam makes stuff move, easy. Go back a few hundred years, and tell someone with much less technical experience than the average person today has, and they'll give you a funny look.
to gaming but computer science in general. I didn't see her in there.
If I remember correclty, she was a US Naval Officer, and won a bet by doing the "impossible", designing a language that could use semi human words, instead of the bytecode that everyone had punched in up until then. She even made it work in three languages...
Without her, the whole computer industry, let alone gaming, would have been set back years.
So, I could download something from iTunes, and without hassle, put it on my non-apple MP3 player, have a copy on my work (windows) PC, my home (Windows) PC, my notebook (BSD), and use it on my Audiotron player (MP3 and WMA compatable) that pipes it through my sterio?
Somehow I doubt it, yet those are all legitimate uses.
no, because people who don't have legitimate uses find easy ways around them.
The people who stick to legitimate uses are more likely to give up and say "forget it, I guess I won't use it for my legitimiate use because I can't", and not bother looking for a crack.
The only people that DRM hurts is the honest people who are not technically inclined.
Honestly, the reason people do this, is because most DRM, like [un-]'FairPlay', prevents a lot of valid and legitimate use.
I have well over 200 CDs in my CD cases at home, many probably have copy protection on them, though I've never done anything special to get around it (well, one CD crashes my Windows computer no matter what I do, so I don't put it in there). I have copies of all of these on my HD. Not so I can share the music with others online, I've never shared one song, but because I don't want the cpu hogging garbage the CP puts on my computer, and because I don't want to listen to one CD at a time, and switch every time I want a new song, especially since this risks damaging the CDs. On top of that, I want to listen to it on whatever device I have, be it my notebook, my desktop, my sterio, or my portable audio player. In this last case, DRM can cause major headaches and hinderances. Kein danke.
It restores my faith in humanity that there are people who willingly and freely help us preserve up our legitimate interests, when companies would try to take it away from us for a few extra bucks.
It says it works on objects on a persons possesion. Who would be dumb enough to say "OK! Let me carry this bluetooth device with built in advertisement streaming."
I know I wouldn't. Or maybe it's the next generation of spyware? That sucks.
Still, I wanna know what they'll do with my Logitec MX 518 bluetooth mouse... Morse code with the light?
I think that then goes back to KISS. If you only have to remember the ballots and either hole punches or pens, it's not that hard.
But when you get to having who knows what along with the machines, it's reasonable for someone to forget something, especially if it's not well documented (and/or they aren't properly informed). There's a lot that goes into this.
The big part is, there's a lot of room for human error in this one unfortunately.
what groups like this need to realzie is that you cant "one size fits all" parenting or raising kids. Just because it doesn't work for them, doesn't mean it won't work for others.
According to this, I should have the least imagination of any of my friends. Actually, I have the most (according to all of them).
Not saying that their worries are completely baseless, but really they need to look for more than just a simple easy answer.
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If the user isn't the administrator, then I could, but for the average every-day user?
I'm more tech savvy than most and I still find Linux to be a pain in the ass when installing applications and setting up stuff. The problem is while most distros share a general code base, a lot is slightly different enough to make compiling/installing apps a royalpain, and the documentation is often less than stellar.
Having recently put a lot of effort in getting Gentoo, Ubuntu, KUbuntu, and before that spending several years with Red Had machines, I cannot see giving normal users Linux machines.
segways move a lot slower than cars, and are a lot smaller (nad hence easier to manuver), so the vision needed to safly naviage one is a lot less. So, no, it actually /wouldn't/ be a danger to those walking around.
lol, good point.
Well, at least something that the local dealers could use. Still, I can see it now.
Dangit, whenever I want to go anywhere this thing takes me to Porns'R'Us first. I wish it would stop.
Why, there are plenty of valid reasons for getting/using them. It's not just an "I have too much money on my hands" kind of thing.
Ex, I've got bad vision and can't drive a street operated motor vehicle. A segway could actually be useful for me in this case, especially in a city with less than sufficient mass transit.
Now, Yes, I could ride a bike, but so could everyone who drives their own car.
with a nice little "disk" interface, and a "bios" folder.
Just toss the latest software in that folder, and it either immediately updates, or it reboots and updates.
That would be save a lot of shipping costs.
My thoughts exactly - I saw that article and I'm thinking, with a little help from the parent, why can't the kids go use Python or PHP?? They are easy to install on any OS (I could use portupgrade in my BSD box, or download the installers in my Windows machine), and we have something that is pretty darn good. Actually, in my oppinion, I found those easier to use than the earlier basic. With a little looking at the libraries available, a tech savvy parent can get all the ease of use out of them, for the child, as well. Caveat: Not every machine has these languages, and they are not as ubiquitous as BASIC was, so the children won't get all of the media, unless they plan to learn 2 or 3 languages, and without parents with basic tech skills, they may not even be able to get these installed. Still, it's not a bad idea.
OK, you are making an assumption: that people in the earliest days of computer program were even remotely would consider to be "typical programmers".
That couldn't be farther from the truth.
The concept of a steam engine seems fairly obvious now, pressure from the steam makes stuff move, easy. Go back a few hundred years, and tell someone with much less technical experience than the average person today has, and they'll give you a funny look.
Just because something *seems* obvious to you, doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone.
That is especially true when you considered; you were set up in an environment where such was pervasive, and for them it was unheard of.
aye (to you and the others), I'm pretty sure that's her.
to gaming but computer science in general. I didn't see her in there. If I remember correclty, she was a US Naval Officer, and won a bet by doing the "impossible", designing a language that could use semi human words, instead of the bytecode that everyone had punched in up until then. She even made it work in three languages... Without her, the whole computer industry, let alone gaming, would have been set back years.
I won't argue; that is a very valid point. However, DRM is the wrong route.
The pirates are breaking the law - lawsuits are fine, government action is fine, but inhibiting non-theft useage is just wrong.
So, I could download something from iTunes, and without hassle, put it on my non-apple MP3 player, have a copy on my work (windows) PC, my home (Windows) PC, my notebook (BSD), and use it on my Audiotron player (MP3 and WMA compatable) that pipes it through my sterio?
Somehow I doubt it, yet those are all legitimate uses.
no, because people who don't have legitimate uses find easy ways around them.
The people who stick to legitimate uses are more likely to give up and say "forget it, I guess I won't use it for my legitimiate use because I can't", and not bother looking for a crack.
The only people that DRM hurts is the honest people who are not technically inclined.
Honestly, the reason people do this, is because most DRM, like [un-]'FairPlay', prevents a lot of valid and legitimate use.
I have well over 200 CDs in my CD cases at home, many probably have copy protection on them, though I've never done anything special to get around it (well, one CD crashes my Windows computer no matter what I do, so I don't put it in there). I have copies of all of these on my HD. Not so I can share the music with others online, I've never shared one song, but because I don't want the cpu hogging garbage the CP puts on my computer, and because I don't want to listen to one CD at a time, and switch every time I want a new song, especially since this risks damaging the CDs. On top of that, I want to listen to it on whatever device I have, be it my notebook, my desktop, my sterio, or my portable audio player. In this last case, DRM can cause major headaches and hinderances. Kein danke.
It restores my faith in humanity that there are people who willingly and freely help us preserve up our legitimate interests, when companies would try to take it away from us for a few extra bucks.
nm, read it wrong, I thought it said it streamed it to the cell phones/PDAs...
It says it works on objects on a persons possesion. Who would be dumb enough to say "OK! Let me carry this bluetooth device with built in advertisement streaming."
I know I wouldn't. Or maybe it's the next generation of spyware? That sucks.
Still, I wanna know what they'll do with my Logitec MX 518 bluetooth mouse... Morse code with the light?
ahh, thank you, the codé is the piécé information that I was missing.
bwahahahaha. Touche (don't know how to do the accent, sorry).
would you prefer .NET/IIS?
What would you recommend over PHP/Apache?
GMale? That doesn't sound like a place to get email addresses. I'm not even gonna tray that on my browser, I can easily guess what it'll bring up...
Sorry, I just found the typo amusing.
I think that then goes back to KISS. If you only have to remember the ballots and either hole punches or pens, it's not that hard. But when you get to having who knows what along with the machines, it's reasonable for someone to forget something, especially if it's not well documented (and/or they aren't properly informed). There's a lot that goes into this. The big part is, there's a lot of room for human error in this one unfortunately.
what groups like this need to realzie is that you cant "one size fits all" parenting or raising kids. Just because it doesn't work for them, doesn't mean it won't work for others.
According to this, I should have the least imagination of any of my friends. Actually, I have the most (according to all of them).
Not saying that their worries are completely baseless, but really they need to look for more than just a simple easy answer.
Facebook helps them by only allowing them to see people who "share groups"
So no more having to travel 5000 miles to find their prey, FB autocategorizes it for them already!
seems more young adult than anything, no older than 30 equivalent in human years.
There were only 3 LoTR books. Not 6.