didn't they start taking them out of circulation when there value was getting close to the cost of the raw materials, rather than waiting untill after the fact?
Well I was one of the few who bus into school. But the problems where on the bus. It was mainly kids who have been expelled from other schools. The local catholic school belevies in 2nd chances and all that. Where I was just in a catholic family. Anyway in "11th" grade (I think it would be 11th grade, in NZ it would be 6th form) one guy had enough and took a rifle along with him for support. Funnest thing I ever did see. The tough wern't so tough and they were all tring to make the other "take the bullet".
Anyway it went to court and the Judge said that if he was treated like that for that long. He would feel he needed a rifle for his protection too. He was let off providing he got some counciling. One point was that the gun was not loaded. However I was there the breach was closed. I think it was loaded. The other point was that the school did nothing to stop these problems despite the parents complaints for years.
Over all I really had a fun time at High school. But I still remember the fear. Its not the parents job or the schools or the states. Its all of the aboves jobs to help in the ways we can help. Claiming its not your problem is a real good way to fix nothing.
I would be. Millimeter waves (microwaves) can do a lot of unpredictable things. I know that from some research, cops that shoot traffic radar for a long period (e.g. 20 to 30 years) frequently (daily or weekly) have a much higher tendency to contract cancer than those who don't. Do you have something to back that up? rather than just a "i know..." kind of data?
In God we trust, the rest of you show me the data!
I beleive SHA-256/512 are fine. Also IIRC SHA-256 is a truncuted SHA-512 so there is little point using SHA-256 unless you have tight mesage size constraints. Also remember that SHA-1 is "broken" is a abstract type of way. In terms of real security its not really "broken" in the wild. Its just a little weaker than we hoped.
You clearly don't know what a crytographic hash is about. And this is not what is ment by collisions resitant. What it means is that there is minum amount of work needed to produce a collision.
There are a number of different type of collisions as well. Lets assume we have a 256-bit hash. There is the kind of colision where you just find *any* 2 strings that produce the same hash, which should require on avarage 2**128 "operations". A harder task is given a string and its hash find another string with the same hash. For a secure hash 256-bit hash function this will require on avarage 2**256 "operations".
There are other properties that are important as well. Its a well established idea. Hashes are very very usefull and are used for a lot more that file verification and we know what properties they need. We are just not very good at producing very good hashes yet.
In Denmark it is legal. Well at least the Guy who broke CSS so we could watch DVD's was ruled legal. New Zealands new "DMCA" also makes it leagal to break DRM for fair use. In fact there is only a few countires where breaking DRM is illegal.
However I don't see why I should need to be a hacker to get my fair use rights. Its my right and the Goverment should force DRM solutions to not violate those rights.
Perhaps M$ want DRM to tie down the PC hardware market to The One OS. The whole: "its the content providers that made me do it", is just the PR department.
So it goes like this. In the future to buy something online your bank needs you to have a certified trusted computing OS. To get certified reqiures 50,000 US dollars, so there is no free certified version of linux that would work. Then the hardware won't even run a non certified OS because of the "dangers" of uncertified drivers and code running on the hardware. It will be call Genuine Lockin.
Normal is meeting somebody at school and bringing him home to meet your parents before dating him. Normal is spending time with your parents and immediate family instead of on MySpace. But it's not the girl's fault- she wouldn't be spending time on MySpace if her immediate family had paid the proper attention to begin with.
That a nice box to put people in. But its just not true. The whole equation for life does not work. Its not good parenting*time=good children. Life does not work like that.
Making the claim that if the parents spend time with there children then this sort of thing won't happen is simply not true. It helps to be sure, but does not exclude negative outcomes. I would suggest some time at a volunteer group and you will quickly get get used to the idea that victims(whatever that may be) come from every background.
I'm thinking that perhaps they didn't go out looking for someone that will abuse them. That just who they ended up with this time. And what about all the normal girls that end up in these type of relationships? And anyway what is normal.
Good people can come from very dark family backgrounds. Bad kids can come from loving families.
At that time I had to go to the library to chat, because my parents wouldn't let me chat online at home. So I wound up in an unsupervised environment where I could have given out more information about myself or location if someone had taken me into their confidence.
Thats the problem. When you are old enough to get around your parents parenting, then at least some blame lands on you. Its the parents fault when they monitor there teens. Its the parents fault when kids do something stupid. What about the kids since really they are usally young adults by this stage and some of it is in fact their fault.
No matter what age you are, your are always capable of screwing up your own life. And it makes no difference who you blame. You life will still be screwed.
Whats real funny is that when there is a story about how parents use tools to monitor what there children do online, everyone on \. cries foul about the breach of privacy.
Oh but there should be a good trusting relationship etc... What and you never did something agaist your parents wishes? Even good kids/teens do stupid things sometimes.
You are right. The parents should know what there children are up to(they are minors after all). But then let us do our jobs, and alow us to check up on our kids without the cries of evil when we do so. Remember these kids can be very smart, and can be quite decptive when they want to be.
So how often did you disobey your parents? Say just once, or lots of times. Were not talking about a 5 year old. We are talking about 13+ something and doing what parents tell them is not a strong point in that age group.
And that is what mainstream media do this to every topic. Even/. is not immune. Some of the staments that are passed off as science here....
Trust me, there are a lot of us around that arn't on the "we casued gloabal warming" band wagon. There are some of us that would claim that the data is not good enough to say even if the planet is warming (tho there are a lot less of these folk, and I'm not one of them). Instead they conjecture that there is a redistrabution of warmth if you like. Still could be a bit of a change for everyone. But change is what we should be good at.
FOX news does that just fine without 16 million. In fact I would say that this is the only thing FOX news *is* good at.
Like or not. The real issue is that there is a very strong bias in funding this stuff and the Media (not just FOX) have decided what is "true" based on conjecture. Its a shame because climate change could be a chance for some real science to take place that benifits as all.
I here you. Thats why I'm in biology now. No money in Climate studies when your skeptical of cause, which I still am. The problem is that the News papers claimed that we were paid off by the oil compaines. Well I have not seen a dime from them.
Futhermore 16 million over that time frame is not a lot of money. Not for real science of this scale.
I have seen statments that are quite the oposite. That HDDVD is just a bunch of letters and Blu-Ray sounds cool, so they will go for that format.
I don't know whats its like in the US, but here in Austria its hard to find a standard TV. Its all HDTV's. My guess is that they get a nice big slice of the 1000+ euro price tag. Mybee the same will happen with the Players. How many 100 euro DVD players do you need to sell to match the profit from a single HDDVD/Blu sale?
So I have just read the whole thing. Takes a while. Anyway this is a long way from DMCA. Fair use is fully protected and now we have fair use (we didn't in NZ untill now). For NZ its a big step forward IMO.
Now when I say fair use I mean you are alowed to use cracks etc if the DRM is preventing fair use. You are can also distrubute these cracks providing you have ensured that its only going to be used for fair use provisions. Its by far the best "DMCA" i have seen. You are even able to decompile code to create interoperable products and the EULA cannot deny that right.
But its not perfect. I would like to see DRM vendors forced to respect fair use. And format shifting is for 2 years unless extended. There is also no expcit right to produce backups.
So what about all those particles hitting the earth atmospheare with more than 1000x the energy of the LHC? I think you should stick to a topic you know something about. You clearly know nothing about physics. Also newscientist is missleading and downright incorrect a lot of the time.
Newscientist is total crap, no better than a newspaper. I have read the orginal papers on this from the preprint archive. At any rate no one will be happy till similar results turn up from LHC. Futher you are proving my point. Earth will not become a black hole. We know that much about physics. Read some of the other comments.
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didn't they start taking them out of circulation when there value was getting close to the cost of the raw materials, rather than waiting untill after the fact?
A large majorty of interesting science is speculation and about 100% of popular science is halfway between speculation and fabricated. This is /.
Cause and consequence. I was telling you what happened. Not justifing any particular outcome or result.
Well I was one of the few who bus into school. But the problems where on the bus. It was mainly kids who have been expelled from other schools. The local catholic school belevies in 2nd chances and all that. Where I was just in a catholic family. Anyway in "11th" grade (I think it would be 11th grade, in NZ it would be 6th form) one guy had enough and took a rifle along with him for support. Funnest thing I ever did see. The tough wern't so tough and they were all tring to make the other "take the bullet".
Anyway it went to court and the Judge said that if he was treated like that for that long. He would feel he needed a rifle for his protection too. He was let off providing he got some counciling. One point was that the gun was not loaded. However I was there the breach was closed. I think it was loaded. The other point was that the school did nothing to stop these problems despite the parents complaints for years.
Over all I really had a fun time at High school. But I still remember the fear. Its not the parents job or the schools or the states. Its all of the aboves jobs to help in the ways we can help. Claiming its not your problem is a real good way to fix nothing.
In God we trust, the rest of you show me the data!
I assume it could be entered as a contender?
My bad. Thanks for the correction.
I beleive SHA-256/512 are fine. Also IIRC SHA-256 is a truncuted SHA-512 so there is little point using SHA-256 unless you have tight mesage size constraints. Also remember that SHA-1 is "broken" is a abstract type of way. In terms of real security its not really "broken" in the wild. Its just a little weaker than we hoped.
You clearly don't know what a crytographic hash is about. And this is not what is ment by collisions resitant. What it means is that there is minum amount of work needed to produce a collision.
There are a number of different type of collisions as well. Lets assume we have a 256-bit hash. There is the kind of colision where you just find *any* 2 strings that produce the same hash, which should require on avarage 2**128 "operations". A harder task is given a string and its hash find another string with the same hash. For a secure hash 256-bit hash function this will require on avarage 2**256 "operations".
There are other properties that are important as well. Its a well established idea. Hashes are very very usefull and are used for a lot more that file verification and we know what properties they need. We are just not very good at producing very good hashes yet.
In Denmark it is legal. Well at least the Guy who broke CSS so we could watch DVD's was ruled legal. New Zealands new "DMCA" also makes it leagal to break DRM for fair use. In fact there is only a few countires where breaking DRM is illegal.
However I don't see why I should need to be a hacker to get my fair use rights. Its my right and the Goverment should force DRM solutions to not violate those rights.
\puts on tinfoil hat
Perhaps M$ want DRM to tie down the PC hardware market to The One OS. The whole: "its the content providers that made me do it", is just the PR department.
So it goes like this. In the future to buy something online your bank needs you to have a certified trusted computing OS. To get certified reqiures 50,000 US dollars, so there is no free certified version of linux that would work. Then the hardware won't even run a non certified OS because of the "dangers" of uncertified drivers and code running on the hardware. It will be call Genuine Lockin.
\takes of tinfoil hat
That a nice box to put people in. But its just not true. The whole equation for life does not work. Its not good parenting*time=good children. Life does not work like that.
Making the claim that if the parents spend time with there children then this sort of thing won't happen is simply not true. It helps to be sure, but does not exclude negative outcomes. I would suggest some time at a volunteer group and you will quickly get get used to the idea that victims(whatever that may be) come from every background.
Stupid foreign keyboard. :(
I'm thinking that perhaps they didn't go out looking for someone that will abuse them. That just who they ended up with this time. And what about all the normal girls that end up in these type of relationships? And anyway what is normal.
Good people can come from very dark family backgrounds. Bad kids can come from loving families.
Thats the problem. When you are old enough to get around your parents parenting, then at least some blame lands on you. Its the parents fault when they monitor there teens. Its the parents fault when kids do something stupid. What about the kids since really they are usally young adults by this stage and some of it is in fact their fault.
No matter what age you are, your are always capable of screwing up your own life. And it makes no difference who you blame. You life will still be screwed.
Whats real funny is that when there is a story about how parents use tools to monitor what there children do online, everyone on \. cries foul about the breach of privacy.
Oh but there should be a good trusting relationship etc... What and you never did something agaist your parents wishes? Even good kids/teens do stupid things sometimes.
You are right. The parents should know what there children are up to(they are minors after all). But then let us do our jobs, and alow us to check up on our kids without the cries of evil when we do so. Remember these kids can be very smart, and can be quite decptive when they want to be.
Please.
So how often did you disobey your parents? Say just once, or lots of times. Were not talking about a 5 year old. We are talking about 13+ something and doing what parents tell them is not a strong point in that age group.
And that is what mainstream media do this to every topic. Even /. is not immune. Some of the staments that are passed off as science here....
Trust me, there are a lot of us around that arn't on the "we casued gloabal warming" band wagon. There are some of us that would claim that the data is not good enough to say even if the planet is warming (tho there are a lot less of these folk, and I'm not one of them). Instead they conjecture that there is a redistrabution of warmth if you like. Still could be a bit of a change for everyone. But change is what we should be good at.
FOX news does that just fine without 16 million. In fact I would say that this is the only thing FOX news *is* good at.
Like or not. The real issue is that there is a very strong bias in funding this stuff and the Media (not just FOX) have decided what is "true" based on conjecture. Its a shame because climate change could be a chance for some real science to take place that benifits as all.
I here you. Thats why I'm in biology now. No money in Climate studies when your skeptical of cause, which I still am. The problem is that the News papers claimed that we were paid off by the oil compaines. Well I have not seen a dime from them.
Futhermore 16 million over that time frame is not a lot of money. Not for real science of this scale.
I have seen statments that are quite the oposite. That HDDVD is just a bunch of letters and Blu-Ray sounds cool, so they will go for that format.
I don't know whats its like in the US, but here in Austria its hard to find a standard TV. Its all HDTV's. My guess is that they get a nice big slice of the 1000+ euro price tag. Mybee the same will happen with the Players. How many 100 euro DVD players do you need to sell to match the profit from a single HDDVD/Blu sale?
Get a education outside FOX news please. Truthiness is not truth.
So I have just read the whole thing. Takes a while. Anyway this is a long way from DMCA. Fair use is fully protected and now we have fair use (we didn't in NZ untill now). For NZ its a big step forward IMO.
Now when I say fair use I mean you are alowed to use cracks etc if the DRM is preventing fair use. You are can also distrubute these cracks providing you have ensured that its only going to be used for fair use provisions. Its by far the best "DMCA" i have seen. You are even able to decompile code to create interoperable products and the EULA cannot deny that right.
But its not perfect. I would like to see DRM vendors forced to respect fair use. And format shifting is for 2 years unless extended. There is also no expcit right to produce backups.
So what about all those particles hitting the earth atmospheare with more than 1000x the energy of the LHC? I think you should stick to a topic you know something about. You clearly know nothing about physics. Also newscientist is missleading and downright incorrect a lot of the time.
Newscientist is total crap, no better than a newspaper. I have read the orginal papers on this from the preprint archive. At any rate no one will be happy till similar results turn up from LHC. Futher you are proving my point. Earth will not become a black hole. We know that much about physics. Read some of the other comments.