"I don't know about you, but I would merrily risk two or three people in an entire population dying because genetically modified super corn gives them an allergic reaction then watch a few hundred thousand people die because their refuse to grow in the barren land that they live."
Ahem, are we saying that GMC's are being used as a solution to world famine? I am no expert, but I know in Europe the EU commision has problems curbing production levels because they are too high. So is there any logic introducing GMC on a production scale?
I agree with using genetics were otherwise loss of life or extreme hardship would be the alternative.
I agree with scientific research and small scale controlled research projects.
I do not agree with with genetics that are not particularly necessary, and I am not alone in this. Hence the claim, to make it more palatable, that there is no risk.
Given that there is an awful lot to learn about genetics and that consequences may only be clear after many years, that would seem to be a very un scientific claim.
I grew up in the UK where terrorist bombs (at that time openly funded by US groups, BTW) were a real threat.
Police always advise to report anything suspiscious, and they look into these reports. I never heard anybody mumbling about civil libertys in these cases, the police investigated what they had to investigate, and without abuse of thier powers because they realised that would be detremental to the real fight against terrorism.
In the current climate, however, people have a right to be paranoid. It is clear that the terrorist threat is being abused by organisation to get seeping powers and laws introduced, and are abusing this situation for objectives that are not directly in line with terrorist detection.
I have just been thinking, the great thing is I don't need to 'port' applications. In our apps some windows are really an embedded browser that points at an intranet server. I can add new features includding the Mozilla as well, there is no overhead in having the legacy engine around for pages that don't move well.
I don't have the 'distribution' problem.....we install the apps on the clients, in fact we use browser based interfaces were possible (embedded into the app) to make the installation and maintenance easier.
A paranoid IE user? And I thought Linux had the monoply in the "it can do that....really" stakes.
If you had read carefully the message I posted you would see that I was pointing out that the use of tabbed browsing means I tend to skip over sites that do not get rendered properly (usually IE only sites).
"IE can be hosted as a control inside any other application."
I know all about that, in fact we do embedd it into our applications, and they are not free gimicks they are applications we sell to our customers. As such I know a lot about the shortcomings and problems of embedding IE. I use mozilla for my browsing and I am impressed by the whole platform, and I am planning to use in our apps in the future.
Fact is that Mozilla'a underlying platform, in particular the dev platform, is way ahead of IE which has not been significantly developed for years. True, MS probably have big plans for it's integration into Longhorn and.NET, but we will worry about that problem when it arrives! Right now one of our competitors is allready deploying Mozilla based solutions, and they rock. It is a bit embarresing for me, a Mozilla user myself but IE deployer when it comes to customer apps!
Frankly, saying that we should all use IE because it comes with the OS is like saying we should use 'Write' for all or documents. I am finding that being integrated into the OS is a negative feature, not a positive one.
Frankly I like Mozilla, and as it has now been my default browser for sometime I curse when I am forced to use infamiliar IE for certain websites.
I use tab browsing a lot (the firefox style where the new tabs are opened in backround), and after a search on google or a/. header, I will launch tabs on all relevant links and then browse sideways accross them. Links that do not work (including IE only sites) get passed over.
From the comments one hears around, it seems that a lot of people use mozilla type browsers in this way, and so will often pass over IE only sites even thougth they are included in the "93.7%". Webmasters will need to wake up to this.
Less IE specific content (which is allready rare....I just checked and I have not launched IE for over a week) means more browser choice. And let's face it, why on earth should everbody like the same browser!
How can cave exploring be dangerous to the rest of the population.
Mind you, a did see a documentry about the spielologists retained by the city of Naples to try and map it's enourmous network of caves and tunnels. These people keep turning up unexpectedly in peoples basements!
I note that you "collect items and points to improve your frolling skills". This sounds like dungeons and dragons.......to your left there is a princess, on the green there is a key...... I get the impression they have taken a bit of everything from all sorts of games and rolled them into a great big hash.
"patents on ideas, concepts, and software are evil?"
Obviously you do not follow the debate very closely.
A lot of people (perhaps most) are not against a true patent, but we are sick to the teeth with opportunist patents, and software patents make it worse.
Basically the 'evil' are people who have not really invented anything putting patents on the obvious, and people who slyly let the technology get adopted as if it were free before coming out of the closet and demanding money.
Existing patent law is quite adequate for patents on truly innovative algorithms. The application of the existing laws, however, are thought to need major revision in the **opposite** direction of were some people want to take it.
Virtually everybody recognises the right of a true inventor to say "if you want to use my original idea for commercial gain then I want a cut".
....is patents. The patent system needs to be re-written so that it protects real innovation and not real big legal budgets.
Failing this there is a natrual advantage to innovators in legal regimes that allow local embryonic development without legal hassle (inventors get to eat)!
SW is bounced of the ionosphere. The 'angle' of bounce depends on the frequency, but the height of the ionosphere changes throughout the day (depends on sunlight). This means to broadcast via 'bounce' you must be using the right frequency at the right time. SW is **still** widely used for "state broadcast stations", if you listen to them you will hear that the "program guide" is mostly concerned with which frequencies they will be using to transmit to which areas at which times.
LW, by contrast, hugs the ground. You cannot go round the world, but you can get quite a way from the transmitter (several hundred miles at sea) on a single frequency and simple equipment. This makes it ideal for the weather bulitins that serve people like fishermen and sailboats that may not be fitted with sophisticated equipment.
Try tuning onto LW and see what stations you can pick up!
Well that is a nice quaint british thing, aint it!
But I wonder if there is anywhere else in the developed world where music stations target FM, if nit for licence/economic reasons?
BTW, Radio 4 is the **only** UK station on LW, and is also available on FM, the LW 198KHz band is mainly kept active for the marine weather forcasts as so a low band is recievable quite a way offshore. Nor does it have music.
Radio's 1, 2 & 3 are maintained on AM, but they are also available on FM, digital, and satelite.
Similar story with commercial radio, but more bias to FM.
So what do people **actually** use to listen to music in the UK?
So given Microsofts stated goal to bring us innovative technology, they should throw in the towel and ship OggVorbis and derivatives with Windows, right?
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.....whose business objectives are not exactly clear but they are certainly **not** for profit;-)
Ahem, are we saying that GMC's are being used as a solution to world famine? I am no expert, but I know in Europe the EU commision has problems curbing production levels because they are too high. So is there any logic introducing GMC on a production scale?
I agree with using genetics were otherwise loss of life or extreme hardship would be the alternative.
I agree with scientific research and small scale controlled research projects.
I do not agree with with genetics that are not particularly necessary, and I am not alone in this. Hence the claim, to make it more palatable, that there is no risk.
Given that there is an awful lot to learn about genetics and that consequences may only be clear after many years, that would seem to be a very un scientific claim.
And yet there are people prepared to unleash modified genes on the world saying that they **know** there is no risk.
ETX
And after all these years I **still** can get nowhere with defender!
BTW, PLC's are commonly programmed in "assembler", but the industrial automation worlds idea of Assembler is remarkebly similar to this HLA.
Police always advise to report anything suspiscious, and they look into these reports. I never heard anybody mumbling about civil libertys in these cases, the police investigated what they had to investigate, and without abuse of thier powers because they realised that would be detremental to the real fight against terrorism.
In the current climate, however, people have a right to be paranoid. It is clear that the terrorist threat is being abused by organisation to get seeping powers and laws introduced, and are abusing this situation for objectives that are not directly in line with terrorist detection.
I don't have the 'distribution' problem.....we install the apps on the clients, in fact we use browser based interfaces were possible (embedded into the app) to make the installation and maintenance easier.
A paranoid IE user? And I thought Linux had the monoply in the "it can do that....really" stakes.
If you had read carefully the message I posted you would see that I was pointing out that the use of tabbed browsing means I tend to skip over sites that do not get rendered properly (usually IE only sites).
"IE can be hosted as a control inside any other application."
I know all about that, in fact we do embedd it into our applications, and they are not free gimicks they are applications we sell to our customers. As such I know a lot about the shortcomings and problems of embedding IE. I use mozilla for my browsing and I am impressed by the whole platform, and I am planning to use in our apps in the future.
Fact is that Mozilla'a underlying platform, in particular the dev platform, is way ahead of IE which has not been significantly developed for years. True, MS probably have big plans for it's integration into Longhorn and .NET, but we will worry about that problem when it arrives! Right now one of our competitors is allready deploying Mozilla based solutions, and they rock. It is a bit embarresing for me, a Mozilla user myself but IE deployer when it comes to customer apps!
Frankly, saying that we should all use IE because it comes with the OS is like saying we should use 'Write' for all or documents. I am finding that being integrated into the OS is a negative feature, not a positive one.
White collar crimes can cause massive economic disruption. If you can make a case for hackers then why not for **other** 'misguided adventures'.
I use tab browsing a lot (the firefox style where the new tabs are opened in backround), and after a search on google or a /. header, I will launch tabs on all relevant links and then browse sideways accross them. Links that do not work (including IE only sites) get passed over.
From the comments one hears around, it seems that a lot of people use mozilla type browsers in this way, and so will often pass over IE only sites even thougth they are included in the "93.7%". Webmasters will need to wake up to this.
Less IE specific content (which is allready rare....I just checked and I have not launched IE for over a week) means more browser choice. And let's face it, why on earth should everbody like the same browser!
And the ENRON shambles?
All those people being flown in an out are CmdrTaco's chefs.
As for President Bush signing an excemption for waste disposal.......well, I'll leave that to your imagination.
Mind you, a did see a documentry about the spielologists retained by the city of Naples to try and map it's enourmous network of caves and tunnels. These people keep turning up unexpectedly in peoples basements!
Then the international corporations.
Then we might start childing games manufacturers.
I note that you "collect items and points to improve your frolling skills". This sounds like dungeons and dragons.......to your left there is a princess, on the green there is a key...... I get the impression they have taken a bit of everything from all sorts of games and rolled them into a great big hash.
Obviously you do not follow the debate very closely.
A lot of people (perhaps most) are not against a true patent, but we are sick to the teeth with opportunist patents, and software patents make it worse.
Basically the 'evil' are people who have not really invented anything putting patents on the obvious, and people who slyly let the technology get adopted as if it were free before coming out of the closet and demanding money.
Existing patent law is quite adequate for patents on truly innovative algorithms. The application of the existing laws, however, are thought to need major revision in the **opposite** direction of were some people want to take it.
Virtually everybody recognises the right of a true inventor to say "if you want to use my original idea for commercial gain then I want a cut".
Failing this there is a natrual advantage to innovators in legal regimes that allow local embryonic development without legal hassle (inventors get to eat)!
oops!
LW, by contrast, hugs the ground. You cannot go round the world, but you can get quite a way from the transmitter (several hundred miles at sea) on a single frequency and simple equipment. This makes it ideal for the weather bulitins that serve people like fishermen and sailboats that may not be fitted with sophisticated equipment.
Try tuning onto LW and see what stations you can pick up!
But I wonder if there is anywhere else in the developed world where music stations target FM, if nit for licence/economic reasons?
BTW, Radio 4 is the **only** UK station on LW, and is also available on FM, the LW 198KHz band is mainly kept active for the marine weather forcasts as so a low band is recievable quite a way offshore. Nor does it have music.
Radio's 1, 2 & 3 are maintained on AM, but they are also available on FM, digital, and satelite.
Similar story with commercial radio, but more bias to FM.
So what do people **actually** use to listen to music in the UK?
So given Microsofts stated goal to bring us innovative technology, they should throw in the towel and ship OggVorbis and derivatives with Windows, right?
No, your apartment was covered by the special exception to the general theory. Basicly it covers the anomolies that occur in female voids.
EOM
In fact my general theory states that any container will keep expanding as long as you keep stuffing enougth material into it.
Can I have my Nobel prize now please?