I've used Camino and it's not that great of an app. Plus, as others have said, the cross-platform-ness of FF is a Good Thing where I work, where Macs & PCs are used side-by-side and familiarity is key.
Well, shit. If that's all you want/need, I'll sell you my "support" for 3k/year. Whenver anything breaks, call and yell at me.
Hell, I'll even stay with you and help you google the solution or search through the MySQL manual! And as an added bonus, I'll send you a basket of Chocolate and Cheese around the holidays as a thank you for choosing MyButcherSQLSupport.
The reality is, that you can't buy the originals. You must buy the turded-up versions (which many of us already own, since Lucas once said definitively that he would NEVER release the originals on DVD) in order to get your hands on them.
I just look at it like I'm buying the Theatrical versions with the "Special Versions" as bonus material.:)
I'm not asking to be a dick, I actually want to know.
It was a phrase used in one of the John Hughes movies in the 80's, Sixteen Candles or Breakfast Club or something. The way I've used it is as you've surmised.
And I didn't even mean buying the bootlegs. Everyone elsethread is talking about downloading torrents and such. You might be able to save yourself some money.
I'll just be happy to see the movies as I remember them, which, in itself is false. I'm never going to see Star Wars like I remember it, as a wide-eyed seven year old in Southern California. But at least I'll have something.
It's exactly the truth. For you to claim otherwise is your own opinion, colored by what you feel you're owed, or entitled to, from George Lucas. Which, IIRC, is...let's see here... *nothing*.
First of all, you can't just buy the originals. You must buy the re-edits to get the originals as a "bonus" feature.
Oh, so *that's* what a split hair looks like!
Secondly, the Theatrical release of the original trilogy was on superb 70mm film prints. It pushes current DVD technology to the very limit to represent anything close to how good those films looked on the big screen.
Right...because it was 70mm on a BIG SCREEN. And, as we've been told, the prints have been destroyed. So we've been told.
Furthermore, "THX Sound" was invented as a way of insuring that theaters would have the kind of audio quality Lucas believed his films demanded. Every film the guy has ever released has always been put out with the very best media presentation available at the time... until now.
Wrong. THX was invented in 1983, so the first two films made use of what was available at the time.
I'm going to get my hands on bootleg LD rips, and be content with that as the best format the original movies will probably ever again exist in.
You could've done that for a long time now. But it's a choice. You choose not to buy, I choose to, well, I'll probably rent them from Netflix first to see if I want to buy them. Then there's this tidbit from Wikipedia: "It is said that this edition will be released in a "Grand Saga" box set. Lucasfilm Vice President of Marketing Jim Ward confirmed that in this final release, Lucasfilm is likely to return to John Lowry to do even more work on the films (possibly digital contemporization of the original trilogy). He says, "As the technology evolves and we get into a high-definition platform that is easily consumable by our customers, the situation is much better, but there will always be work to be done.""
Who knows. But is it really worth getting all bunged out about?
Of *course* the first three were really bad. They were made by a young director learning his craft and working his way up in Hollywood. By the time he got to Episode IV, he had experience enough to realise his vision and make "Star Wars".
I don't know that they're shitty. They might be fine, for what I expect, my TV and what I wanted.
But you're right, it's basically what I said, he doesn't give a toss. He doesn't have to, he released what was asked for, despite him saying he wouldn't ever release the theatrical versions. So, people crabbing is, to use your word, rubbish, regardless of what the market *thinks* it's entitled to or not. "Entitled" being the key word here.
Point taken. I think *my* point was more of the second part, wherein I say that requesting a hamburger will get you a hamburger, baseline, but sometimes you get more. But yeah, I botched the first part.
Ok, it's not debatable. He *did* stick it to us.:)
And I disagree with your analogy insofar as a "hamburger" implies the full package now, bun and all. I'm on a special diet where I don't eat grains, and I've yet to find a place that just serves it without the bun, I have to ask for it. But you ask for a hamburger, you get meat and a bun. Sometimes less. Sometimes more. Sometimes greasy. Sometimes undercooked. But you get a hamburger.
*That* said, it looks like he cranked 'em out and delivered. Anamorphic. Dolby 2. But they're there. You can't say you don't have them on DVD anymore. There's plenty of shitty DVDs out there of older movies, just like there are shitty "remastered" music CDs. But it comes down to - do you want it on your current media of choice? Or do you not want it at all?
Maybe he *is* undertaking a longer, larger effort to get the best masters possible, clean them, and present them on Blu-Ray or MagicMemoryStickOfTheFuture, or whatever.
But, honestly, I don't think he is. I think he gave the people what they said they wanted, which was the theatrical versions. In the whole "Greedo shoots first!" uproar, I don't recall anyone saying "George, please give us widescreen versions in dolby 7.1 (or whatever is out now) in HD" (my home theater knowledge, or lack thereof, is showing now). I recall people saying "This sucks! Greedo shoots first! Han steps on Jabba's tail! This is bunk! We want the theatrical versions of my childhood!"
And I don't think he likes the original versions (esp. EpIV) enough to care at this point. I mean, especially if, as he's stated (we all know what that's worth...) that he's done with the entire story. OT-Done. Prequels-Done. Done. Book closed. (Now, notice I'm not talking about the animated fill-in episodes or anything....)
His moneystream is secure. His legacy is secure. He's got movies he's happy with. The public has the theatrical versions on DVD. He can retire, his kids can live without working, and we can relive our childhood first experiences seeing the movie. Be real. Was the print you saw in the theater in 1977 *that* crystal clear?
I disagree. I think it's *exactly* what the fans asked for, and many people are getting caught up in the sour grapes of it.
The saying is "Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it." People screamed when Greedo shot first. They hated the CGI Jabba and Han walking on his tail.
Now, you get Han shooting first, you get no Jabba in EpIV, you get a straight transfer & Dolby 2.0.
Lucas said he'd never give us the theatrical versions. Everyone screamed for it. He gave it to us. Whether he stuck it to us or not is debatable. But we got what we asked for, and he gets to say "See? I gave 'em what they wanted and they *still* complained!" He also gets to get the "theatrical version" monkey off his back, once and for all.
Can't make everyone happy. These versions are out there, for better or worse. Enjoy, or don't, as you will.
Hey, man, sorry. You don't have to call on the mods to mod me down. It sounds like you've thought out your basement-dwelling position and have a good thing going there. In fact, my parents are asking me to move out. Do you have the room? I live just over in Parkway Place, just across highway 335. I work as a delivery guy for Best Buy, I could get you deals on equipment.
For the second time today I have to tell someone to go buy a sense of humor. Did you see that part that said "Slashdot stereotypes"? Indicating it was a joke?
Or...maybe *you* still live in *your* parents' basement and it hit a little close to, erm, home.:D
Again with the stereotypes! I'll be here all week! Try the veal, it's veal-licious!
Apple marketing machine? What are you talking about? I *use* it on my Mac. Did you not read my post? Did it come across as snarky? Your post sure did.
Obviously, as I use a Mac laptop mostly, I didn't know about ONE FINGER SCROLLING (kind of a strange marketing tool to use all caps, IMO). I've never had it in use on the Dell laptop that I have at home. Where does one get the Synaptics driver?
I like Apple's TWO FINGER SCROLLING because it works anywhere on the trackpad, not just off to one side. But I've never used the driver you're talking about.
just a little extra friction in the "closed" position of the hinge.
If I'm imagining this right - kind of like the positions on a car door when you open it - I think I like it better. Free-range for the screen up until almost closed, then a little resistance, then...closed.
(considering, that is, that nobody packs magnetic media into their laptop bag anymore... at least, not Mac users).
It's funny, because our first thought is still "magnet bad!" but when I thought about it, I came to the same conclusion as you did. Flash drives, CD-RW, DVD-RW...nothing magnetically fragile for it really to ruin.
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I think "Traffic James" is like "Basketball Jones".
This was actually my question, but seriously.
DriveSavers can crack open a drive and read each platter. What are the options, if any, with solid state/flash drives?
Backup software would see a huge spike if there's no recourse from a dead drive.
Not since I switched to DirecTV.
I've used Camino and it's not that great of an app. Plus, as others have said, the cross-platform-ness of FF is a Good Thing where I work, where Macs & PCs are used side-by-side and familiarity is key.
Put your code in the box? :)
Well, shit. If that's all you want/need, I'll sell you my "support" for 3k/year. Whenver anything breaks, call and yell at me.
Hell, I'll even stay with you and help you google the solution or search through the MySQL manual! And as an added bonus, I'll send you a basket of Chocolate and Cheese around the holidays as a thank you for choosing MyButcherSQLSupport.
The reality is, that you can't buy the originals. You must buy the turded-up versions (which many of us already own, since Lucas once said definitively that he would NEVER release the originals on DVD) in order to get your hands on them.
:)
I just look at it like I'm buying the Theatrical versions with the "Special Versions" as bonus material.
I'm not asking to be a dick, I actually want to know.
It was a phrase used in one of the John Hughes movies in the 80's, Sixteen Candles or Breakfast Club or something. The way I've used it is as you've surmised.
And I didn't even mean buying the bootlegs. Everyone elsethread is talking about downloading torrents and such. You might be able to save yourself some money.
I'll just be happy to see the movies as I remember them, which, in itself is false. I'm never going to see Star Wars like I remember it, as a wide-eyed seven year old in Southern California. But at least I'll have something.
That's not even close to the truth.
It's exactly the truth. For you to claim otherwise is your own opinion, colored by what you feel you're owed, or entitled to, from George Lucas. Which, IIRC, is...let's see here... *nothing*.
First of all, you can't just buy the originals. You must buy the re-edits to get the originals as a "bonus" feature.
Oh, so *that's* what a split hair looks like!
Secondly, the Theatrical release of the original trilogy was on superb 70mm film prints. It pushes current DVD technology to the very limit to represent anything close to how good those films looked on the big screen.
Right...because it was 70mm on a BIG SCREEN. And, as we've been told, the prints have been destroyed. So we've been told.
Furthermore, "THX Sound" was invented as a way of insuring that theaters would have the kind of audio quality Lucas believed his films demanded. Every film the guy has ever released has always been put out with the very best media presentation available at the time... until now.
Wrong. THX was invented in 1983, so the first two films made use of what was available at the time.
I'm going to get my hands on bootleg LD rips, and be content with that as the best format the original movies will probably ever again exist in.
You could've done that for a long time now. But it's a choice. You choose not to buy, I choose to, well, I'll probably rent them from Netflix first to see if I want to buy them. Then there's this tidbit from Wikipedia: "It is said that this edition will be released in a "Grand Saga" box set. Lucasfilm Vice President of Marketing Jim Ward confirmed that in this final release, Lucasfilm is likely to return to John Lowry to do even more work on the films (possibly digital contemporization of the original trilogy). He says, "As the technology evolves and we get into a high-definition platform that is easily consumable by our customers, the situation is much better, but there will always be work to be done.""
Who knows. But is it really worth getting all bunged out about?
Of *course* the first three were really bad. They were made by a young director learning his craft and working his way up in Hollywood. By the time he got to Episode IV, he had experience enough to realise his vision and make "Star Wars".
;)
These food analogies are cracking me up. :)
;)
All I'm sayin' is...People asked for Theatrical, they got Theatrical. No more. No less.
It's these sort of expectations that lead to all sorts of problems in life. Let's quote from the movie, shall we? "Let go your feelings...."
I don't know that they're shitty. They might be fine, for what I expect, my TV and what I wanted.
But you're right, it's basically what I said, he doesn't give a toss. He doesn't have to, he released what was asked for, despite him saying he wouldn't ever release the theatrical versions. So, people crabbing is, to use your word, rubbish, regardless of what the market *thinks* it's entitled to or not. "Entitled" being the key word here.
Point taken. I think *my* point was more of the second part, wherein I say that requesting a hamburger will get you a hamburger, baseline, but sometimes you get more. But yeah, I botched the first part.
Ok, it's not debatable. He *did* stick it to us. :)
And I disagree with your analogy insofar as a "hamburger" implies the full package now, bun and all. I'm on a special diet where I don't eat grains, and I've yet to find a place that just serves it without the bun, I have to ask for it. But you ask for a hamburger, you get meat and a bun. Sometimes less. Sometimes more. Sometimes greasy. Sometimes undercooked. But you get a hamburger.
*That* said, it looks like he cranked 'em out and delivered. Anamorphic. Dolby 2. But they're there. You can't say you don't have them on DVD anymore. There's plenty of shitty DVDs out there of older movies, just like there are shitty "remastered" music CDs. But it comes down to - do you want it on your current media of choice? Or do you not want it at all?
Maybe he *is* undertaking a longer, larger effort to get the best masters possible, clean them, and present them on Blu-Ray or MagicMemoryStickOfTheFuture, or whatever.
But, honestly, I don't think he is. I think he gave the people what they said they wanted, which was the theatrical versions. In the whole "Greedo shoots first!" uproar, I don't recall anyone saying "George, please give us widescreen versions in dolby 7.1 (or whatever is out now) in HD" (my home theater knowledge, or lack thereof, is showing now). I recall people saying "This sucks! Greedo shoots first! Han steps on Jabba's tail! This is bunk! We want the theatrical versions of my childhood!"
And I don't think he likes the original versions (esp. EpIV) enough to care at this point. I mean, especially if, as he's stated (we all know what that's worth...) that he's done with the entire story. OT-Done. Prequels-Done. Done. Book closed. (Now, notice I'm not talking about the animated fill-in episodes or anything....)
His moneystream is secure. His legacy is secure. He's got movies he's happy with. The public has the theatrical versions on DVD. He can retire, his kids can live without working, and we can relive our childhood first experiences seeing the movie. Be real. Was the print you saw in the theater in 1977 *that* crystal clear?
I disagree. I think it's *exactly* what the fans asked for, and many people are getting caught up in the sour grapes of it.
The saying is "Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it." People screamed when Greedo shot first. They hated the CGI Jabba and Han walking on his tail.
Now, you get Han shooting first, you get no Jabba in EpIV, you get a straight transfer & Dolby 2.0.
Lucas said he'd never give us the theatrical versions. Everyone screamed for it. He gave it to us. Whether he stuck it to us or not is debatable. But we got what we asked for, and he gets to say "See? I gave 'em what they wanted and they *still* complained!" He also gets to get the "theatrical version" monkey off his back, once and for all.
Can't make everyone happy. These versions are out there, for better or worse. Enjoy, or don't, as you will.
Specifically, my birthday, two years from next Tuesday. :D
It was also cool twenty years before that.
Then I get to look forward to dying, or my 118th birthday.
Hey, man, sorry. You don't have to call on the mods to mod me down. It sounds like you've thought out your basement-dwelling position and have a good thing going there. In fact, my parents are asking me to move out. Do you have the room? I live just over in Parkway Place, just across highway 335. I work as a delivery guy for Best Buy, I could get you deals on equipment.
Ouch!
:D
For the second time today I have to tell someone to go buy a sense of humor. Did you see that part that said "Slashdot stereotypes"? Indicating it was a joke?
Or...maybe *you* still live in *your* parents' basement and it hit a little close to, erm, home.
Again with the stereotypes! I'll be here all week! Try the veal, it's veal-licious!
You say that, yet you're *still* living in your parent's basement....
This post brought to you by Slashdot stereotypes. Try it today!
Apple asked what people wanted in the next PowerBook and the answer was - "Lighter!"
Tough...I *do* like them!
Now, gimme that ham! More importantly, gimme a MacBook!
I don't understand the big deal - I've been using my 65W power adapter to heat up my muffins in the morning for about a year now.
Seriously.
But nobody complains about hot power adapters. Doesn't sell papers...or...pixels, or whatever.
Well played.
"I cast...MAGIC MISSILE!"
You mean like when it becomes L.A. South? (Becomes? Became?)
Obviously, as I use a Mac laptop mostly, I didn't know about ONE FINGER SCROLLING (kind of a strange marketing tool to use all caps, IMO). I've never had it in use on the Dell laptop that I have at home. Where does one get the Synaptics driver?
I like Apple's TWO FINGER SCROLLING because it works anywhere on the trackpad, not just off to one side. But I've never used the driver you're talking about.
If I'm imagining this right - kind of like the positions on a car door when you open it - I think I like it better. Free-range for the screen up until almost closed, then a little resistance, then...closed.
(considering, that is, that nobody packs magnetic media into their laptop bag anymore... at least, not Mac users).
It's funny, because our first thought is still "magnet bad!" but when I thought about it, I came to the same conclusion as you did. Flash drives, CD-RW, DVD-RW...nothing magnetically fragile for it really to ruin.
Also, magnetic latches instead of mechanical. I'll be interested to see how well that works.