There are a few affordable solutions out there. Here are 3 options with support for IPSec, OpenVPN and PPTP.
1. Ubiquiti Edge Router, The Lite model retails around $99. The gui is intuitive and easy to use. The latest update makes setting up site to site IPSec tunnels pretty simple. Don't like the GUI? No problem, It has ssh and serial support and is based on the excellent vyatta fork VyOS. 2. Mikrotik, I recommend the RB2011 series as they have 10 ports ( 5GigE and 5 FastE ), plus the $129 model has wifi and an SFP port as well. Quite easy to set up. 3. pfSense. The hardware is pricey but the software is excellent and works well in a VM. You can pick up a low end fanless micro ATX board , pick up an extra NIC and have a quiet firewall sitting in your living room.
You've clearly not been to Kirkland then. T-Mobile coverage sucks there. You get service on one side of Lake Washington Boulevard but not the other. No service near the courthouse. Cross over 405 on 85th towards Redmond, and its full bars.
Paying for a proprietary software license is no guarantee that you are in compliance. Even buying the software puts you at risk of a BSA raid. All it takes is for one employee to install the software on a machine not covered by the license, and you're at risk of serious fines.
Actually, all it takes is to not have the receipts or have purchased the software from ebay or Amazon. From what I understand , BSA does not consider software purchased from places like Amazon or Ebay as legit.
I work for a few small companies and luckily for me, they are all very strict on their licensing compliance requirements.
A few however did not keep their receipts easily accessible which is pretty much what the BSA looks for. Original CDs, certs of authenticity apparently don't cut it. We spent some time and was able to get all the documentation ready just in case.
Out of curiosity, what modules did you need to compile and what files did you need to edit? I installed Gutsy as well and I did not have to do these things that so many people here on/. apparently have to do. I even tried it on a few different PCs but everything just worked.
Can you please list your hardware so I can get something similar and have all this editing fun I am clearly missing out on. Simply put, I feel left out of the fun club:(
I ran OS X server on a 350Mhz PPC with 1.5Gb of RAM. You need at least 256Mb of RAM to run OS X 10.0 - 10.2 usably, 1G or more is ideal. Still the CPU was a bottleneck. I don't even want to think how Tiger would have run on it. The latest version I ran on it was Panther.
So what you are saying is that even stuff like moving files should not be done without backing up at every possible opportunity.I am glad trivial tasks don't cause data loss on my other machines.
If he's unwilling to sell games to kids who are flunking out of school? I TOTALLY LOVE THAT STAND. Seriously, think about it. We have major issues these days with schools being fucked up. If kids aren't making the grade, we may love games, but just letting them play the games is not going to teach them to take school (and work) seriously.
I like the sentiment behind it but doing it this way is still wrong.
How about this novel idea? Lets say the adults the kid lives with (usually called parents, step parents or legal guardians) regulate the amount of games that the child plays and ensures that the child dedicates enough time to his or her studies. Now if these people take enough of an interest in the child's life, then the child might do well in school.
The main issue with kids not paying enough attention to school are not games. It is the lack of parental time due to most families having working parents who then use the game console or game time as the nanny.
What you are proposing is that the nanny position shift from the console to the retailer.It is the parent's responsibility not gamestop's or Microsoft's or TV or consoles or whatever. Take some interest in your kid's life and then maybe total strangers do not have to.
Probably, yes. But the IT department is not who gets to decide which is which.
Agreed which is why I said that they should bring it to their manager. It is one of the manager's responsibilities to make sure that their subordinates have all the tools required to do the job. It is not up to the employee to decide to bring in random hardware and expect full support from IT.
And as for me evaluating that the Macs were more of a need than a wish, in that particular instance it was. In other instances it was not. I really have no issues supporting Macs ( I use them myself ) just as I have no problems supporting Linux or any other OS either. Again if you read my comment, you will see that I have no problems with alternate hardware, I just don't think the user should always be allowed to use whatever he/she wants without consulting with their manager and/or IT department. If your job needs you to use Office and Outlook, I don't see any benefit in switching to a Mac. In other cases Macs can be beneficial. It all depends on the situation.
For some reasons, yes. But security and reliability should not be among them. If your network goes down because I plugged in a Mac, then your friggin' network is broken. A properly designed and configured ethernet doesn't care and isn't impacted, the worst that should happen should affect me and me only (i.e. I can't connect to anything else). Same for security. If your defenses are penetrated by the simple act of getting physical access to your network, then you should fire your security dude. Physical access to a company network is amongst the most simple barriers a serious attacker will take in literally minutes. Friends of mine do consulting in regards to social engineering attacks. If your network is open to "insiders" by design, then it is open to anyone in reality.
Like I said it is not all about security and reliability. I don't think I have ever had a network which had issues because someone brought in an alternate OS. But there have been issues where the person who has an alternate OS or even alternate apps ends up using a lot of IT time for support while not really benefiting from the new OS since its a personal wish that is fulfilled instead of a need.
I agree on that. The point is that what the IT qualifies as a "wish" very often is a need. Way too many IT people are too arrogant to realize that the people doing the work are often the ones with the capability to decide which tools are best.
Conversely, many times what users define as a need is a wish. If there is an actual needs for the said change, the users should be taking it up the proper channel by making a proper case as to why it should be supported. That can be reviewed and the IT department can add it to the approved list and provide training to their IT staff to support that. In many cases where a user said they needed a Mac to do a job in a Windows shop is usually the user asserting his wish as a need. I have been in one game company where one department decided they would only use Macs for design work even though our target platform and our development tools were Windows based and that ended up with duplicate work for the programmers. Unfortunately in that position I did not have the power to veto the Macs even though it was used because the higher ups preferred Macs. I have no problem supporting Macs, but I do disagree with the reasoning used to purchase them.
What I meant is: If your security relies on people doing as you say, then your security is broken. Your security (and reliability, etc.) should rely on technical measures that ensure that people either a) can not do harmful things or b) whatever they do they can't damage the system.
We can take all the technical measures possible, but at the end of the day we would just rather support the infrastructure and approved machines rather than supporting every random thing that Mr Average Joe decides to connect to the network. It is not just security, but also the IT resources that Mr. Joe can utilize on his personal hardware. Companies set these policies for good reasons. Like I said earlier, if people want to use a Mac in a Windows shop because it makes them more productive, make a case to the manager and to IT. If the case is better than 'I feel more productive with a Mac' the chances are IT will approve the hardware and may even convince the company to buy a personal mac laptop for the user.
Allowing people to bring in their personal laptops is a bad bad idea. Not only does the company now become liable for another person's property but also liable for any pirated software being used on said machine while at work. And you really cannot force someone to not use pirated software on THEIR laptop if they want to.
If they need restrictions and procedures in order to keep their systems secure and stable, then their system design is broken.
After that comment I have a hard time believing you are a security minded individual, much less one working at a Telco where almost everything is restricted.
So people should just be allowed to connect whatever they want to a network? And install whatever they want on their computers? I have worked for a telecommunications provider many years back and the restrictions placed on what can and cannot be used is huge. What hardware, what OS + software, installing only approved software etc all top the list of restrictions.
If they aren't there to grant the users' wishes, then their self-definition is broken. Contrary to what many of us here believe, IT runs a company, which means it's the engine - not the driver.
Sorry, the function of IT is to make sure that the user's computing needs are met, not the user's wishes. The user's needs are defined by their job function and not their OS or software preference. IT is there to make sure that the user can do his or her job properly where a computer is required.
I had a blue and white G3 which ran OS X , the last version I ran on it was 10.3 Server but it ran pretty damn well. Then again it had 768Mb of ram so that might have had something to do with it.
Any respectable geek should run from the TechStop idea:
Actually this is a great idea where efficiency is concerned.
Yeah, it's cool that there's someone there to answer dumb-user questions, but I would hope that my company would hire programmers that realize that the that network cable goes into the NIC. Besides that, the person working the counter is likely a step up from a BestBuy salesman, able to see a problem, but not good enough to get a job as a dedicated sysadmin.
They are not there to just answer dumb questions, but a place you can go to when you experience issues. This is not about people not understanding what cable goes where. But it is a whole lot more efficient than calling the IT support line and waiting an hour for the tech to come and determine that the port is out. I assume that these tech stations will have people who are techs+junior sysadmins so all sorts of issues can be fixed.
I know you hate Geek Squad, but not every help desk tech is as clueless as many geek squad 'techs'. At least in MS, most techies (who come out when you open a ticket) are more like Jr. Sys Admins.
Microsoft's Building 112 has a lot of great food choices as well. Its not free but the food is definitely cheaper and healthier than going to a fast food place or random chinese take out.
Regardless of where you work, health and taste wise its probably best to bring your own food.
When I worked at Microsoft, all full time employees usually got their own office. If you are a vendor or a temp, then you will share it with 1 or 2 other vendors/temps in your group based on the size of the office. If you are a tester for games, then you will more than likely be in a large testing room with 20 others.
And as for getting fired for making blog posts/comments that the CEO/President or whatnot does not like, its basically like that in most companies. Even more so when the company is a large corporation.
Shiv Sena and RSS do not speak for Hindus. In fact most Hindus I have met do not like them and consider them to be little more than thugs with some political power in the city of Bombay. Thats it.
Around 20-30 years ago, they hated non Marathis in Bombay and tried to get rid of south indians in Bombay. They are just a bunch of thugs who don't have much power outside of Bombay.
I can't wait for the day we are DRM free but until then if we have to live with it, lets come up with best compromise we can.
And why should the compromise be allowing proprietary companies to use a loophole in the license to avoid compliance? And this is especially ironic that the loophole is used in the name of preventing copyright violations and illegal distribution.
If companies want to implement DRM let them do all the work on their devices. Why should the free software community do the hard work in building devices which restricts the use of the software they built?
Then build your own replacements. The reason you want to use Free Software is because a lot of it is tried and tested and it keeps your development costs down. You want to be able to reap all the benefits without having to give back. You are essentially saying 'I want to keep my costs down by using available software, but I want to relicense it the way I want'
In that case, by all means use BSD. But if you do plan on using anything which is Free Software, then the community will resist all attempts at making it non free. And a hypothetical 'I might release something' is hardly a reason to allow people to take away the freedom that the GPL provides.
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There are a few affordable solutions out there. Here are 3 options with support for IPSec, OpenVPN and PPTP.
1. Ubiquiti Edge Router, The Lite model retails around $99. The gui is intuitive and easy to use. The latest update makes setting up site to site IPSec tunnels pretty simple. Don't like the GUI? No problem, It has ssh and serial support and is based on the excellent vyatta fork VyOS.
2. Mikrotik, I recommend the RB2011 series as they have 10 ports ( 5GigE and 5 FastE ), plus the $129 model has wifi and an SFP port as well. Quite easy to set up.
3. pfSense. The hardware is pricey but the software is excellent and works well in a VM. You can pick up a low end fanless micro ATX board , pick up an extra NIC and have a quiet firewall sitting in your living room.
Microsoft sports a very aggressive corporate culture where if you don't use Microsoft for everything, you're "not a team player."
This is not true. I know many people @ Microsoft who use iphones. I even know a few who dual boot linux on their laptops or who have macs.
Linux is used on print servers internally to this day, though it's a dirty secret.
This is not true either.
You've clearly not been to Kirkland then. T-Mobile coverage sucks there. You get service on one side of Lake Washington Boulevard but not the other. No service near the courthouse. Cross over 405 on 85th towards Redmond, and its full bars.
There is also Mikrotik http://www.routerboard.com/
Great Oktoberfest though. And the drive there is fun.
They even have a "Drive your european car and buy beer & bratwurst day"
http://www.leavenworthdrive.com/
Paying for a proprietary software license is no guarantee that you are in compliance. Even buying the software puts you at risk of a BSA raid. All it takes is for one employee to install the software on a machine not covered by the license, and you're at risk of serious fines.
Actually, all it takes is to not have the receipts or have purchased the software from ebay or Amazon. From what I understand , BSA does not consider software purchased from places like Amazon or Ebay as legit.
I work for a few small companies and luckily for me, they are all very strict on their licensing compliance requirements.
A few however did not keep their receipts easily accessible which is pretty much what the BSA looks for. Original CDs, certs of authenticity apparently don't cut it. We spent some time and was able to get all the documentation ready just in case.
Hmm, So far I have had no problems opening up docs, videos and pictures on my SMB shares.
As with 10.5 browsing samba shares has been an issue unless you have (a) mounted the share or (b) type it manually.
Out of curiosity, what modules did you need to compile and what files did you need to edit? I installed Gutsy as well and I did not have to do these things that so many people here on /. apparently have to do. I even tried it on a few different PCs but everything just worked.
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Can you please list your hardware so I can get something similar and have all this editing fun I am clearly missing out on. Simply put, I feel left out of the fun club
I ran OS X server on a 350Mhz PPC with 1.5Gb of RAM. You need at least 256Mb of RAM to run OS X 10.0 - 10.2 usably, 1G or more is ideal. Still the CPU was a bottleneck.
I don't even want to think how Tiger would have run on it. The latest version I ran on it was Panther.
Gnome finally fixed the file-roller thing. You can drag stuff out to your heart's content.
:-)
I will admit that KIOslaves are awesome though
So what you are saying is that even stuff like moving files should not be done without backing up at every possible opportunity.I am glad trivial tasks don't cause data loss on my other machines.
Which ran NetBSD ?
I like the sentiment behind it but doing it this way is still wrong.
How about this novel idea? Lets say the adults the kid lives with (usually called parents, step parents or legal guardians) regulate the amount of games that the child plays and ensures that the child dedicates enough time to his or her studies. Now if these people take enough of an interest in the child's life, then the child might do well in school.
The main issue with kids not paying enough attention to school are not games. It is the lack of parental time due to most families having working parents who then use the game console or game time as the nanny.
What you are proposing is that the nanny position shift from the console to the retailer.It is the parent's responsibility not gamestop's or Microsoft's or TV or consoles or whatever. Take some interest in your kid's life and then maybe total strangers do not have to.
Agreed which is why I said that they should bring it to their manager. It is one of the manager's responsibilities to make sure that their subordinates have all the tools required to do the job. It is not up to the employee to decide to bring in random hardware and expect full support from IT.
And as for me evaluating that the Macs were more of a need than a wish, in that particular instance it was. In other instances it was not. I really have no issues supporting Macs ( I use them myself ) just as I have no problems supporting Linux or any other OS either. Again if you read my comment, you will see that I have no problems with alternate hardware, I just don't think the user should always be allowed to use whatever he/she wants without consulting with their manager and/or IT department. If your job needs you to use Office and Outlook, I don't see any benefit in switching to a Mac. In other cases Macs can be beneficial. It all depends on the situation.
Like I said it is not all about security and reliability. I don't think I have ever had a network which had issues because someone brought in an alternate OS. But there have been issues where the person who has an alternate OS or even alternate apps ends up using a lot of IT time for support while not really benefiting from the new OS since its a personal wish that is fulfilled instead of a need.
Conversely, many times what users define as a need is a wish. If there is an actual needs for the said change, the users should be taking it up the proper channel by making a proper case as to why it should be supported. That can be reviewed and the IT department can add it to the approved list and provide training to their IT staff to support that. In many cases where a user said they needed a Mac to do a job in a Windows shop is usually the user asserting his wish as a need. I have been in one game company where one department decided they would only use Macs for design work even though our target platform and our development tools were Windows based and that ended up with duplicate work for the programmers. Unfortunately in that position I did not have the power to veto the Macs even though it was used because the higher ups preferred Macs. I have no problem supporting Macs, but I do disagree with the reasoning used to purchase them.
We can take all the technical measures possible, but at the end of the day we would just rather support the infrastructure and approved machines rather than supporting every random thing that Mr Average Joe decides to connect to the network. It is not just security, but also the IT resources that Mr. Joe can utilize on his personal hardware. Companies set these policies for good reasons. Like I said earlier, if people want to use a Mac in a Windows shop because it makes them more productive, make a case to the manager and to IT. If the case is better than 'I feel more productive with a Mac' the chances are IT will approve the hardware and may even convince the company to buy a personal mac laptop for the user.
Allowing people to bring in their personal laptops is a bad bad idea. Not only does the company now become liable for another person's property but also liable for any pirated software being used on said machine while at work. And you really cannot force someone to not use pirated software on THEIR laptop if they want to.
After that comment I have a hard time believing you are a security minded individual, much less one working at a Telco where almost everything is restricted.
So people should just be allowed to connect whatever they want to a network? And install whatever they want on their computers? I have worked for a telecommunications provider many years back and the restrictions placed on what can and cannot be used is huge. What hardware, what OS + software, installing only approved software etc all top the list of restrictions.
Sorry, the function of IT is to make sure that the user's computing needs are met, not the user's wishes. The user's needs are defined by their job function and not their OS or software preference. IT is there to make sure that the user can do his or her job properly where a computer is required.
I had a blue and white G3 which ran OS X , the last version I ran on it was 10.3 Server but it ran pretty damn well. Then again it had 768Mb of ram so that might have had something to do with it.
The constitutional guarantee is only for cases where the its you vs the state, AFAIK.
Actually this is a great idea where efficiency is concerned.
They are not there to just answer dumb questions, but a place you can go to when you experience issues. This is not about people not understanding what cable goes where. But it is a whole lot more efficient than calling the IT support line and waiting an hour for the tech to come and determine that the port is out. I assume that these tech stations will have people who are techs+junior sysadmins so all sorts of issues can be fixed.
I know you hate Geek Squad, but not every help desk tech is as clueless as many geek squad 'techs'. At least in MS, most techies (who come out when you open a ticket) are more like Jr. Sys Admins.
Microsoft's Building 112 has a lot of great food choices as well. Its not free but the food is definitely cheaper and healthier than going to a fast food place or random chinese take out.
Regardless of where you work, health and taste wise its probably best to bring your own food.
When I worked at Microsoft, all full time employees usually got their own office. If you are a vendor or a temp, then you will share it with 1 or 2 other vendors/temps in your group based on the size of the office. If you are a tester for games, then you will more than likely be in a large testing room with 20 others.
And as for getting fired for making blog posts/comments that the CEO/President or whatnot does not like, its basically like that in most companies. Even more so when the company is a large corporation.
Shiv Sena and RSS do not speak for Hindus. In fact most Hindus I have met do not like them and consider them to be little more than thugs with some political power in the city of Bombay. Thats it.
Around 20-30 years ago, they hated non Marathis in Bombay and tried to get rid of south indians in Bombay. They are just a bunch of thugs who don't have much power outside of Bombay.
And why should the compromise be allowing proprietary companies to use a loophole in the license to avoid compliance? And this is especially ironic that the loophole is used in the name of preventing copyright violations and illegal distribution.
If companies want to implement DRM let them do all the work on their devices. Why should the free software community do the hard work in building devices which restricts the use of the software they built?
Then build your own replacements. The reason you want to use Free Software is because a lot of it is tried and tested and it keeps your development costs down. You want to be able to reap all the benefits without having to give back. You are essentially saying 'I want to keep my costs down by using available software, but I want to relicense it the way I want'
In that case, by all means use BSD. But if you do plan on using anything which is Free Software, then the community will resist all attempts at making it non free. And a hypothetical 'I might release something' is hardly a reason to allow people to take away the freedom that the GPL provides.