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Needs Gunpowder...Check out this casemodding technique...
Betcha can't do that with a Dremel tool.
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Re:What Changes for a Linux Math Machine?
Replace the AMD heatsink/fan kits with Thermalright SLK800's, YS Tech 80mm adjustable fans, and use Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound. The catch is that the pink crap AMD uses instead of proper thermal compound may be permanently attached at this point, though the right chemicals (Goof-Off cleaner followed up with rubbing alcohol) can probably remove it. I'm using SLK800's on my dual 2400+ ASUS A7M266-D board and with the fans adjusted to 2000RPM the system is very quiet, the most annoying noise is from the fan on the Ti4200 card and there's no room for one of those neato Zalman heatpipe GPU coolers. With this setup I'm getting lower CPU temps than I was with 1800+ chips and the retail box heatsink/fan kits (using AS3, scraped off the pink stuff).
See 2CoolTek for this gear. I've been buying from them for years and highly recommend them.
You could go with one of those Vantec fan speed adjusters (handles 4 fans) instead of variable-speed fans... might be a better choice in your case.
Perfect tower: one of the Lian-Li aluminum cases, probably an extended length model (extra 10cm of space). See NewEgg, etc. Actually, they've got the cooling gear too. -
Antec p/s, copper CPU coolers w/80mm fans
The top 2 things you can do to quiet your AMD system:
1) Get an Antec TruePower series power supply. Two big fans running slow/quiet. They're also the best power supplies you can buy short of the atrociously expensive and noisy PC Power & Cooling power supplies (which I've also used).
2) Get a Thermalright SLK800 copper heatsink, YS Tech Rheostat 80mm fan, and Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound. I recommend buying from 2CoolTek. The YS Tech fans are adjustable, so you can try a slow/quiet setting and if that proves inadequate crank it up a bit. I've found 2500RPM to be a good balance of noise/performence on my 2400+ CPUs (which do run cooler than your 2100+ CPU, assuming it's the old Palamino core), and at 2000RPM you won't hear the fans at all. 60mm fans have to run at much higher RPMs than 80mm fans to move the same amount of air.
Point #2 is the best place to start. It's probably all you need. -
Mirror:
I posted a mirror here.
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www.resellerratings.com
Before you buy from ANYWHERE, check out ResellerRatings. You may not thank yourself (or me
:-) later, but at least you won't be cursing yourself and the fly by night vendor that screwed you. Just remember to keep in mind: People (in general) are much more likely to bitch about bad service than praise good service.
That said, I've been really happy with NewEgg for equipment. For some higher end (or rather specific) cooling equipment, 2CoolTek is really good. Crucial is great if you're looking for high-quality RAM. PCBoost has never given me any trouble when dealing with less expensive RAM. And everyone and their brother will mention Pricewatch. :-) And although they aren't always the cheapest, Axiontech has always treated me right as well.
People have said good things about MWave, but I ordered a pair of NICs from them a while ago and they shipped in an old motherboard box without any padding -- rattling around loosely! Luckily they both worked.
But these are just MY experiences -- yours may vary. -
My favorite mod...
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I like this method better...
If you are going to do a case mode, do a case mod!
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Slot A cooling?
My box has an Athlon 600 MHz with an Asus K7M mobo. At this point, I'm trying for a quiet PC (at least as quiet as I can get it). I've already installed an Ultra Quiet power supply and a SilentDrive enclosure, and those are working well so far.
As far as I can tell, the primary remaining source of the noise is the chipset fan (an RDJD K701). Looking through 2Cooltek (a good source for cooling products), I came across the "Alpha P7125 Athlon/SECC Cooler (no fans)". However, does the "no fans" designation mean that the cooler comes without fans but needs them, or that it comes without fans and can operate without them? I'm thinking that if indeed it can operate without fans, then that could mean a significant sound reduction for me.
Then again, if that one does require the fans, then I'm guessing that it's about the same loudness as my current setup :-/. In that case, are there other quiet-coolers I should try? Or, should I just go straight to the acoustical foam? -
My quiet case project : it's an answer ... sort of
Well, it seem these days, most of the power user just care to get something like 200fps in Quake III. Why ? Beat's me ! I'm not on a quest to get the ultimate frame rate, I just want my box to be quiet as possibly can be.
To help you understand my take on the subject, here is the background
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My PC has the following components :- A OEM case
- A 235W OEM power supply
- ASUS P3B-F
- Intel Pentium II rated 400Mhz @ 400Mhz
- A cheap OEM SECC2 Heat-Sink made of aluminum
- A 128MB CAS2 no-name DIMM
- Two 32MB CAS3 Samsung DIMM slowing down my memory timing, but preventing the appearance of the all mighty evil SwaP
- A ATI All-In-Wonder Rage128 16MB
- A Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value
- A Realtek 8139 Ethernet NIC
- My beloved USR 56Kbps ISA Real Modem. Sorry but to me a component that uses CPU power to do it's processing instead of taking the load off is not worthy of being in my computer. Not to mention the M$ Win part...
- A Creative 48x CD-ROM drive. It's the loudest damned thing in my computer when it's spinning
- A Quantum Fireball AS PLUS 40GB (7200RPM) in a removable tray
- A Quantum Fireball CX1 10GB (5400RPM) mounted inside the case
- Of course the stupid old 1.44 MB floppy drive only used for booting Tomsbrt in case of emergency
Soon to be
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- A Adaptec 2940UW
- A Diamond Monster 3D II for Glide games
It turn out that the Quantum Fireball AS makes less noise than the Quantum Fireball CX1. I still have to figure it out
...I use my PC for
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- Running Linux and learning as much as time allows me (Jez I had so much time when I was a student... Think of all the time I wasted in High-School running the evil W monster)
- Doing some gaming i.e. : Diablo II, Unreal, UT, Undying (Although that thing is going to cost me a new box)
- Spending numerous nights filling my brain @ Slashdot, Tomshardware, Anandtech, Arstechnica, StorageReview, Developper.Intel.com, and most importantly, hounding the web for all the case manufacturers and their take at a quiet box.
As I'm writing this post, that is probably going to be the base documentation for my Silent Case Project, you're guessing that my sleepless night of browsing have not yielded the desired result.
I've check out many options such as water cooling, moving the PC to the closet, returning to the forest where a PC is pretty far from your everyday quest for survival. None of them suits me.
The objective of my project is to build a case that meets the following criteria
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- A silent as possible
- Accessible
- Provides sufficient ventilation to maintain all the components running within thermal specs
- Be light enough to be easily transportable (Let's not forget the Lan parties
;-)
To attain those goals I have to
:- Read all I can about noise, sound, aerodynamics, PC specs
- Find suitable materials : A case is not just a protection against unwanted fingers and dust ; it must provide EMI shielding, proper grounding, resist to impacts, and fit into my conception of the king of object you want in your bedroom (If you were thinking about plywood and a box of rusted leftover nails, forget it)
- Find the tools or the companies or individuals with the means to work the materials I choose to build the casing
For the sound isolation I was thinking about some kind of foam. Mineral lint would be affective but that takes too much space and it's not the kind of thing I want beside my bed. Form the casing itself, metal is almost inevitable if you want EMI shielding and grounding. And as for you who wonder why I have not mentioned water cooling yet, the greatest source of noise is not my CPU cooler and your just moving the problem out of the case (Nice ; you have water heating up but unless your reservoir is like a bathtub or something you will have to transfer the heat for the water to the air).
That about as far as I am. If you have any idea that might help me, please fell free to send me some bits forming ASCII characters at Prozzaks@operamail.com
To finish up, here is a list of thing that might help people wanting to achieve similar goals
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- http://www.formfactors.org/ You should be able to find all the documents regarding the ATX form factor and thermal design guides. A must if you want to build a quiet PC.
- http://developer.intel.com/ Intel has contributed a great deal to the ATX definition ; here you will find many relevant documents including thermal design guides for all Intel processors.
- Etract from my favorite's :
Hardware\cases PC CASE
Fong Kai
PowerOn
Enlight Corporation
dir.yahoo Enclosures Manufacturers
procase
YY Computer
Psi
IN WIN
Amtrade
American Suntek
Addtronics
A-Top Technology, Inc
Nikao
Palo Alto Products
Antec
Lian-Li
amaquest
Koolance
Quietpc
PC Power & Cooling
Hardware\Heat Sinks ALPHA
Cooler Master
AVC
ekl
GlobalWIN
globefan
RDJD
Foxconn
Spring Spread
Sanyo Denki
TITAN
TaiSol
ChipCoolers
Orb a
ElanVital
Hardware\Info\Form Factor Platform Development Support
SSI
WTX
Hardware\Info\Standards Fibre Channel Industry Association
PCI SIG
RAB
serialata
SPEC
Hardware\Info\Storage RAID.edu
Hardware\Info\Cours CS 252 - Graduate Computer Architecture
Hardware\Info The PC Guide!
Hardware Bible
FullOn3D
developer.intel.com
HwB The Hardware Book
United Overclockers
Ars Technica
Tech-Junkie
HardwarePub
Webopedia
Illustrated Guide to the PC Hardware
SysOpt
2CPU
Ace's Hardware
Technical Support - RaidHelp v1.0 - Free RAID Technology Guide
Computer Architecture
OPENCORES.ORG
TechFest
MidWest Micro Support
Hardware\Resalers GeekTek!
Micro-Bytes
ALCO
ABC Micro
2CoolTek
Plycon Computers
TCWO
ABC Micro - Lprix
Case Outlet
The Chip Merchant, Inc
Cimsys
OrdiGros
ALIENWARE
SHENTECH
FireStorm
Hyper Microsystems
TWEAKBOX
Hardware\Reviews Tom's Hardware Guide
Sharky Extreme
StorageReview
HardOCP
AnandTech
SystemLogic
x-bit labs
Active-Hardware
FiringSquad
SocketA
Overclockers Australia
HEXUS
dansdata
SysReview
Hardware\Manufacturers AMD
ASUS
Belkin
MassMultiples
Promise
StarTech
VIA Technologies, Inc
ABIT Computer Corp
Comcase
Micron Semiconductor
ECS
Hardware Freeboxen
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Re:ANSWER! It's not the water-cooling, so much...
Some is a good website to buy big fans:
http://www.2cooltek.com/
http://www.2cooltek.com/ (for those safe surfers)
their Panaflo 120mm fans are really nice. they move a LOT of air, and are quiet and slower than most 80mm fans that push less air. Don't even bother with anything smaller than a 60mm fan on your CPU, i suggest 80mm or even 120mm fan on your CPU, some can get by without any fan on the CPU at all if you have a good enough heatsink, and the PSU pulls off enough air from it. (most computer builders do this such as Dell, Gateway, and Compaq for their workstations/desktop models)
As far as cases are concerned, I do not really know where you can buy them with 120mm Fan slots. they all come with slots for 80mm fans. however, some cases on the net do come with a 120mm slot in the front, and/or a 120mm slot in the back, however they are usually much more expensive than standar high quality cases and are of lower quality metals/design. I think somoene could make a lot of money designing cases, and nobody does. Its a shame really if you ask me -
2cooltek
2cooltek.com. All your cooling desires, satisfied in one place. And if you want a shock, check out the high-output 120mm fans and the Black Label 80mm fan. So loud, it's hard to be heard over them, but if you want high cfm, they're the way to go.
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Re:Non Computer GamesDon't get them a game -- get them something that lets the game better! Ratpadz are very awesome, very accurate mouse "pads".
I can testify that it's big enough for my mouse, a cup of coffee, AND an ashtray. It's also durable enough to handle a cup of coffee, and if you spill something on it, you can just rinse it with water. As far as mousepads go, it's the last one you'll ever buy. I have actually ordered two, but that's just because I wanted one at work, too
:)Instead of going on about it, I'll throw you a link to the main site. You can buy them there, or find links to other distributors (mainly overclocking/cooling stores like 2CoolTek or Plycon).
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Re:What if you're too lazy?For one thing, it takes out the geek/hacker/1337 element of rounded cables, and for another, Plycon is highly overpriced and overrated.
Places like 2CookTek, teamawe, and Case ETC have the same products with better explanations of what you are buying at more reasonable prices. I guess the disadvantage is that you don't get to have a site with fancy animated GIF's.