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The X15 worked on that principal. So it has been done and was cost effective. We are just now getting back around to looking at the concept that was started in the 1950's

http://acepilots.com/planes/x1...

The lead to your quote is "If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants." Did they see further than others, who may have only seen what is and not what can be? If they did, then they are giants and can be called great.

My point, ifthere is one, is that everything is a continuum, and not often a Eureka moment. Musk, Jobs, all thes folk have not stumbled upon some glorious new truth that was unknown. They've applied what existed in a new way.

Here's an example:

http://acepilots.com/german/me... In late World war 2, the Germans started using the ME 262. Awesome freaking machine. and a lot of us think that it was sprung on the world as a complete surprise. No one had a clue about Jet engines for airplanes.

But wait.

The British had the Gloster Meteor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

The Japanese had the J9Y Nakajima Americans had the Bell P59. And the Germans also had other Turbojets

Here's smoe iteresting reading aabout the first generation Jet fighters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

But most people have no idea of these others. They seem to think that the 262 wasa sprung upon the world, fully formed like Venus rising forom the sea, and everyone had no idea about the technologyuntil it did.

So Musk has not invented the electric car, or the batteries that prpel it. He hasn't invented rocketry or much else.

But he's doing stuff, making things happen, and it isn't all about padding his wallet, which seems ot be the only thing that garners respect these days.

I for one, applaud him and what he is doing. No one needs to like him, and his very notoriety among a lot of nerds and slashdotters is more like proof he's doing someting interesting, , because the GIFT rule means if you are doing anything, someone's going to give you crap about it.

Not so sure that Napoleon saved France during the revolution, so much as he saved France from the revolution. There were of course some post Revolution sucesses, but then again there was Waterloo, and that whole Russian retreat thing (snatching defeat from the jaws of victory)...

Hopefully you weren't talking about WWI Escadrille Lafayette... Those were mostly American pilots, I've been told...Maybe you mean Lafayette from the American Revolution? I think he eventually became a US citizen...

No U.S. soldier has been killed by an enemy aircraft since 1951.

August 23 1967, 14:00. Another US raid against the capital of North Vietnam is in proccess.

Due to the size of the American formation (40 aircraft, including Thunderchiefs carrying bombs, F-105Fs ready to supress the SAM radars, and escorting Phantoms) the crew of one of those F-4Ds, Charles R. Tyler (pilot) and Ronald M. Sittner (WSO), of the 555th TFS/8th TFW, felt overconfident. They did not expect any MiGs, which had been inactive after several bloody defeats dealt them by the Phantoms of the 8th TFW in late May and early June.

Suddenly, Tyler heard on the radio an F-105D pilot (Elmo Baker) announcing that he had been hit by a MiG-21 and was ejecting. As Tyler looked for the unexpected bandit, a tremendous explosion shook his plane, and Tyler lost control of his aircraft, and bailed out. Hanging in his parachute he saw his F-4D falling in flames to the jungle, but he did not see his WSO eject; Sittner had been killed instantly by the missile hit.

So, no.

China's the only one I'm worried about. The rest can be bought (especially France).

Second it is suicide only with older US aircraft....

Most older aircraft, yes, but it was possible and did happen with an F4:

Once again, he met the MiG-17 head-on, this time with an offset so he couldn't fire his guns. As he pulled up vertically he could again see his determined adversary a few yards away. Still gambling, Cunningham tried one more thing. He yanked the throttles back to idle and popped the speed brakes, in a desperate attempt to drop behind the MiG. But, in doing so, he had thrown away the Phantom's advantage, its superior climbing ability. And if he stalled out ...

The MiG shot out in front of Cunningham for the first time....

from this source

When people try to seem smart by using legal and scientific terms incorrectly, it just makes them seem dumb to the people who understand the legal or scientific term they are trying to use.

Yes. He is ill school'd in bolted language. Ye did well to check him and approve him a fond fellow.

My sentence is probably gramatically incorrect even in early modern English, but the point is that language evolves, pal. In Shakespeare's writings, "bolted" meant "refined", "check" meant to rebuke, "approve" meant to prove, and "fond" meant foolish. Then people started using words "incorrectly." Check it out here.

The new use of "begging the question" which you hate so much is already more widespread than the old use. He wasn't trying to "seem smart", he was using the widespread expression instead of referring to the logical fallacy.

Yeah, thanks for backing up your claim that these leaks are politically motivated ...

Here you go, maybe you will find this a little less distracting?

And, a little more that is helpful.

I agree completely, though, that when civil servants take this kind of a risk, something is decidedly rotten.

That is by no means certain.

It could simply mean that they are committed to their own cause, which could be anything from A-F below:

A. Truth, Justice, and the American Way
B. I don't like what's going on, and leaking is easier than filing a complaint through proper channels
C. Embarrassing Bush will help Hillary win, and I probably won't get caught
D. Bring down Bush, no matter the cost.
E. Bring down America, no matter the cost.
F. Other

There is some very interesting information about Mary McCarthy, let go for leaking at NSA. I'm holding out for B, C, or D. Probably a mix.
A map of associations
Some defenders
Is there a bigger pattern?

Keep you Dirty , Stinking hands off our internet! If you like our toy soo much that you want to take it home to your house, then go buy your own! Maybe then someday we can play together... Till then, keep away from our internet!

And for some more concrete examples, see here.

"U.S. Insists On Keeping Control Of Internet"
Sure, that's one way to put it. Another way would be to say :
U.S. Insists On Keeping Internet out of the hands of corrupt petty goons

...falsifiable, meaning, can you design an experiment that could prove the theory false.

All you have to do is show once through an experiment that you can produce something that is supposedly of "irreducible complexity" from simpler parts.

How can you design an experiment to falsify the theory of Evolution?

Wonderful. I was too late but let me also add this, stolen from 'Commissar' on http://acepilots.com/mt/2005/08/26/falsifiable-evo lution-not-just-precambrian-rabbits/#comments:

Interesting. In sum you said, "re-create life in a test tube."

Let's say we did such a test. Successfully!!!! Woot! We're talking Nobel Prize.

But how does that falsify the claim that an Intelligent Designer did the same thing a long time ago? It doesn't ... and that's why ID is a 'belief.' A believer in ID simply says, "You did it, why couldn't God ... a hypothetical, secular, non-religious Intelligent Designer have done it?"

No.

That's the short reply. Long version: the UN, as evidenced by the oil-for-food scandal and their attempts to impose a tax on the U.S., is a corrupt organization of politicos bent on controlling everything - not unlike the American government, really.

The trouble is, the UN wants to make everything a bureaucratic struggle, such as in Darfur, and that bureaucracy would strangle the organization of the Internet.

More often than not, decentralization works better than centralization -- smaller businesses tend not to abuse their customers as much as big businesses do, smaller governments tend not to abuse their people as much as bigger governments do, and so on. It's a matter of accountability - like with the problem of increasing numbers of managers over one's head back at the office, increasing the number of "official" overseers only bogs down efficiency. Let the customers of an organization or individual be the real overseers (as is the case currently w/ ICANN) - this is a decentralizing move.

Hence, in the name of decentralization, in the name of not being tied up in corruption (at least as much of it as the UN clearly is), in the name of efficiency -- I would argue that leaving ICANN in its current position is better than putting it under the wing of the UN.

(Note to knee-jerk UN defenders: the UN has its place as a means of mediating conflicts between nations and smoothing things over; as a forum for foreign relations. But we should all be worried when it starts interfering with the sovereignty of any nation, whether that nation is ours or not.)

Well, that and the fact that The Hindenburg was designed to use non-flammable Helium instead, but was forced to use Hydrogen instead when the U.S. refused to sell it to the Zepplin company (fearing that Germany would use Zeppelins to bomb Britain again like they did in WWI)

In a nutshell, the Americans were afraid that if they armed the bomb before takeoff and the plane crashed, they would have nuked themselves.

So they made the decision to arm the weapon after takeoff.

Read more here:
http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_tibbets.html

And here is the correct second link. :)

Thanks for getting this out - hope the gods of mod dont mod you down because they dont like the links ;)

I want to add a few fun ones to your list:

http://acepilots.com/mt/
http://www.redstate.org/
http://www.vodkapundit.com/

Red meat eating, gun toting Americans like myself read stuff like Allah, IMAO, ASV, Wizbang, the Commissar, and OTB. They've gone a little overboard lately focusing on the Rathergate thing, but overall, they're a good mix of conservative blogs.

They should obviously stop rendering SVG files. That will make people happy again.

(Why do SVG evangelists not want more SVG renderers in the world? I don't know for sure, but it's likely the W3C is being bought off by oil payments under the table, or something crooked like that.)

Well, let's start with the almost complete destruction of Battleship Row and go from there. Let's try the fact that we never attacked Japan before Pearl Harbor, no state of war was announced, no nothing. Fortunately, the USS Enterprise, an aircraft carrier, was away at the time of the attack.

Let's also keep in mind that General Curtis LeMay's 21st Bomber Command killed more people with firestorms than the nuclear weapons. Here's a quick timeline of firebombing in Europe, A good picture describing firebombing, Wiki of how Tokyo was firebombed, and the wonderful bomber that made this all possible.

I can't find the link now, but do you know why those cities were picked? Because they had manufacturing facilities. Heard of Mitsubishi? They built planes, and engines, and bombs. They had factories in/near those cities. Those were also military targets, as much so as Pearl Harbor. Or do you not know that a lot of civilians lived in Pearl Harbor as well?