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Also a great place to go if you want to buy a metric ton of thermite ingredients.

Also a great place to go if you want to buy a metric ton of thermite ingredients.

No better place to get unlicensed Segway clones and other IP violating products.

No better place to get unlicensed Segway clones and other IP violating products.

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You still fail to read or understand.

The only thing the Mac Pro is ahead of the curve on is form factor, and they've clearly made serious compromises to achieve that

That is what I replied to. FORM FACTOR.

And I replied by saying "It's not an innovation as they're using an LED company's own heat sink for the interior."

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/579269880/Unique_360_degree_beam_angle_vertical.html

And it's true. The heat sink inside THAT EXACT LED is the EXACT SAME HEAT SINK in the Mac Pro.

They didn't make any compromises, at fucking all. They took a note from the LED industry, like every other tech company on the planet has been doing for the past half decade or longer.

Protip: I am very heavily involved in most semiconductor-based industries where thermal considerations are a major issue.

Now go back to school and learn how to comprehend that which you read.

I bought an OLPC XO-1 computer. Battery life was... disappointing. Less than three hours.

I don't know if the newer OLPC products are better, but clearly OLPC considered short battery life to be adequate. My Nexus 7 tablet gets at least twice the battery life of the XO-1 despite costing less. (Both theoretically cost $200 but due to inflation the Nexus 7 nets out to costing less.)

In the early days, OLPC had a visionary dream that their laptops would be so power-efficient that they could be used for hours by children who had to use muscle power to charge their batteries. That never happened. All the OLPCs are used in areas that have electricity, at least some of the time.

I'm pretty sure we could go to http://alibaba.com/ and buy off-the-shelf cheap tablets plus off-the-shelf cheap solar chargers and equip each child with tablet, charger, keyboard, and protective case, all for less than the cost of an XO-4 tablet.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cheap-cell-phone-solar-charger.html
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=android+tablet
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=tablet+keyboard+case

I bought an OLPC XO-1 computer. Battery life was... disappointing. Less than three hours.

I don't know if the newer OLPC products are better, but clearly OLPC considered short battery life to be adequate. My Nexus 7 tablet gets at least twice the battery life of the XO-1 despite costing less. (Both theoretically cost $200 but due to inflation the Nexus 7 nets out to costing less.)

In the early days, OLPC had a visionary dream that their laptops would be so power-efficient that they could be used for hours by children who had to use muscle power to charge their batteries. That never happened. All the OLPCs are used in areas that have electricity, at least some of the time.

I'm pretty sure we could go to http://alibaba.com/ and buy off-the-shelf cheap tablets plus off-the-shelf cheap solar chargers and equip each child with tablet, charger, keyboard, and protective case, all for less than the cost of an XO-4 tablet.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cheap-cell-phone-solar-charger.html
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=android+tablet
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=tablet+keyboard+case

I bought an OLPC XO-1 computer. Battery life was... disappointing. Less than three hours.

I don't know if the newer OLPC products are better, but clearly OLPC considered short battery life to be adequate. My Nexus 7 tablet gets at least twice the battery life of the XO-1 despite costing less. (Both theoretically cost $200 but due to inflation the Nexus 7 nets out to costing less.)

In the early days, OLPC had a visionary dream that their laptops would be so power-efficient that they could be used for hours by children who had to use muscle power to charge their batteries. That never happened. All the OLPCs are used in areas that have electricity, at least some of the time.

I'm pretty sure we could go to http://alibaba.com/ and buy off-the-shelf cheap tablets plus off-the-shelf cheap solar chargers and equip each child with tablet, charger, keyboard, and protective case, all for less than the cost of an XO-4 tablet.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cheap-cell-phone-solar-charger.html
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=android+tablet
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=tablet+keyboard+case

I bought an OLPC XO-1 computer. Battery life was... disappointing. Less than three hours.

I don't know if the newer OLPC products are better, but clearly OLPC considered short battery life to be adequate. My Nexus 7 tablet gets at least twice the battery life of the XO-1 despite costing less. (Both theoretically cost $200 but due to inflation the Nexus 7 nets out to costing less.)

In the early days, OLPC had a visionary dream that their laptops would be so power-efficient that they could be used for hours by children who had to use muscle power to charge their batteries. That never happened. All the OLPCs are used in areas that have electricity, at least some of the time.

I'm pretty sure we could go to http://alibaba.com/ and buy off-the-shelf cheap tablets plus off-the-shelf cheap solar chargers and equip each child with tablet, charger, keyboard, and protective case, all for less than the cost of an XO-4 tablet.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cheap-cell-phone-solar-charger.html
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=android+tablet
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=tablet+keyboard+case

You can already buy cheaper one armed robots:
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/6--axis-robot.html

So I doubt the real advance/breakthrough is in the arm.

I'm not sure if there's any real breakthrough being made, even in slashvertising.

A few more direct from China:

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=7+inch+tablet

Mostly these are bulk sales only, but a few will sell individual units. (And I don't know what shipping from China costs, but I've bought small electronics, phone chargers and the like, from Hong Kong that were under $5 =including= shipping.)

BTW according to inside info from Apple, as of a couple years ago the actual cost to make an iPad in China was $38. (And would have been all of $6 more if made in USA.)

How?
Build the LARGEST WiFi antenna ever!.

Here: http://in105966439.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/116155145-101307025/Powder_coated_cable_trays.html

You want manure forks, not spading forks. Luckily they're also available (only 50,000 a year) at alibaba, http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/620578979/manure_fork.html, handles a little short though, the one I carry in my truck has closer to a six foot handle.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/540042213/FORGED_PITCH_FORK_SPADING_FORK_IN.html
$6 each, min order 100.
This company claims to be able to supply 10,000 per month which isn't bad. Should we shop around a little more first?

7" HDMI Screen

9.7" HDMI Screen

7" HDMI Screen

9.7" HDMI Screen

"$30,000? LOL. I'd bet you could stretch your dollar further than that in Africa. Wanted dead, $500."

GSM powered wildlife cameras with rugged casing and months of battery time, which MMS you the photos can be had for less than 300$, so a hundred would cost less than 30.000$ with no extra cost or work whatsoever.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/wildlife-scouting-camera-gsm.html

or

http://dx.com/p/sg-660m-2-4-lcd-gsm-mms-wildlife-trail-camera-w-26-ir-led-sd-tv-out-camouflage-8-x-aa-141890

Safari is also impacting by the bug, and naming a Wi-Fi network with one of the strings of text can cause an error while an Apple device is scanning for networks.

So, just buy a couple of inexpensive Wifi mini routers, hook them up a battery pack, and place them near apple user watering holes, sit back and watch the fun...

I assume you would make one from the stolen numbers. Most casheers do not scrutinize the card heavily if its signed. http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/credit-card-blanks.html

You can by commercial products that can read RFID tags from a lot further away. 5 seconds on google and I found long range passive rfid reader for vehicle management that claims 8 to 15 metres.

I suspect that some researchers really don't have a clue as to what state of the art is.

Plus when it comes to reading things via radio waves the most important thing is the antenna and not the computer connected to it. So saying "Plus it's built using an Arduino." is getting almost as bad as patents that are ".. using a computer!!!!!!!!!!"

> I can’t think of any board that I could build at say $25 or even $35 that would be as good as Pi, let alone better.

Whole frickin Cortex-A8 Allwinter A13 tablet at $30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia50Fx0amE4

how about RK3066 android stick, Cortex-A9 Dual-core 1GB RAM, 8GB Flash at $35?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbAOnI1TR2k

>But it’s a push even at $45. $55 I could imagine that you’d start to get to the point where you can start to get better but it’s interesting that there’s nothing out there
>right now.

yeah, absolutelly nothing out there
no RK3188 Quad-core Cortex-A9 1GB RAM, 8GB Flash at $55
http://seabright.en.alibaba.com/product/918363394-209545308/2013_Cheapest_HDMI_rk3188_quad_core_android_4_2_tv_stick.html

oh, he meant nothing from Broadcom :)

It's a B2B site for (mostly) Asian suppliers. While there is a lot of junk on there it is a legit site. For example: need a few dozen tons of rice?

You can get a keyless universal unlocker from china for around $2000USD.

Someone must have ripped you off.

Right now, they sell in China for $25

how about these.

I actually read the article for once and it was just SIRI, VLINGO.
IMHO, this link here to android mirrors have much better promise for safe texting.
phone in rear view mirror

speed limit aware cruise control

As a package, the Pi is already obsolete and outclassed. Where it does have an advantage is it's very easy to flash (just stick an SD in it), has a large and coherent support base, and has some connectors for hooking it up to other things.

Wireless power, Check - Solar, Web, Check, Prior art..

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/627880918/VMS_Australian_standard_highway_running_direction.html

1. Function and Technology Character

  (1) Multiplied file formats, such as AVI, MOV, MPG, DAT, VOB are comprehensive, and also we have three display mode as VGA+VIDE and VGA. There are also interfaces for Sound signal and video signal, including CVBS, S-Video, VGA, DVI, HDMI.
  (2) 8 bits controller: 4096 grade grey control system and the color is over 16.7 millions, and the brightness, contrast, saturation, chroma can be adjusted by manual and sensor, whose scope is 256 grade.
  (3) 16 bits controller: the color is over 281 trillions, high brightness, and very high contrast.
  (4) Show all kinds of word, text, graph, picture, video, 2-dimention, 3-dimention cartoon and other information with your PC does synchronously.
  (5) Line-Double technology is adopted for the picture adjustment.
  (6) Can be connected with PC and the web net and show the content, and also can be controlled remotely via VPM+ADSL. (One-Sever-AnyClients supported)
  (7) Can be used outdoor in all kinds of weather, and excellent capability of antisepsis, waterproof.
  (8) Calibration function supported.

For three days, there's been flacking for Canonical's attempt, yet again, to commercialize Linux on end user devices. Canonical previously claimed their product was going to ship on the EeePC (it never reached retail channels), and on Dell (where it was more expensive than Windows). Worse, Canonical ships a Linux preloaded with ad-supported crapware.

Linux tablets are available from China. Some are good, some are awful, most are cheap.

Ask for a quantity 10,000 quote for this:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/624954111/ZigBee_wireless_Temperature_and_Humidity_sensor.html

There's another model which is available from multiple sources, which incorporates an LCD display. It goes for FOB $28 for quantity 10,000. However, ask for their pricing on quantity 100,000. If you really care, track down the OEM who is providing these guys with the unit instead, and keep the middleman unit profit as well.

This isn't rocket science; the actual answer to your question is that there's no real market for the damn things, and so they have not hit commodity pricing. No one wants something that will communicate ambient temperature changes in any room of their house wirelessly to a central monitoring station so that you can know the temperature of every room of your house.

Mostly the people who would be geeky enough to want this would also realize that it enables anyone outside your house with a parabolic antenna can track the movement of above-ambient (e.g. 98.6 degree) objects as they move between rooms within your house and know the best time to break down your front door and drag you off into the banjo-woods or whatever.

PS: No one really likes yet-another-wireless-device-for-no-reason-Zigbee either.

Search Alibaba for "Netbook": "185,881 Product(s) from 2,239 Supplier(s)". You can buy individual items. "Hot sell Mini Notebook 10.2 inch laptop Atom D425 Processor 1.8G Memory 1GB HDD 160G netbook wifi camera - US $217.00 / piece ", from Shenzhen Lihaicheng Tech Co., Ltd. Many sellers will ship directly to the US. Quality may be iffy, but there are seller reputations, and it's probably no worse than eBay.

Some of these are probably the same machines the big names were selling.

The sad thing is, 1920x1080 laptop screens are only about $40-$100 wholesale in quantity.

Possibly. but what will they do against my pond with that array of... TESLA COILS behind my fence...

A nice Faraday cage suit?

Here: http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=android

And that payment processing would probably not work if you're without power and data and only have the POTS line. What then? One of the main points of the discussion is for emergency situations.

Magnetic card reading payphones which require only a phone line are commercially available. For example:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/387529358/Magnetic_Card_Payphone.html

So this isn't just a pipe dream. It is proven, widely deployed technology. I have just never seen it in the USA.

Let's bring some numbers into this.

According to this page, I can get a cargo container from Shanghai to San Francisco in 18-30 days. That's a distance of roughly 10,000km,

The Hindenburg could reach air speeds of 135km/h. While modern airships could doubtless reach higher speeds, we're also running off solar power here. So let's just run with that 135km/h figure. That gives us about three days to cross the same distance.

For further comparison, a Boeing 747 can make the trip in roughly 11 hours.

So we're beating the container ship by a factor of 6-10, but the jet is beating us by a factor of 6. So we just have to have a price halfway between the two. Unfortunately, that's hard to figure out, because the container ship charges by volume, while the aircraft rates I can find charge by weight. Ultimately, though, it's a moot point, as any figure I can come up with for the costs of running a solar-powered airship will cite work by a certain Dr. M. Y. Ass.

But hey, it might be a good niche to fit into. Faster and safer* than a container ship, but slower than a jet. Someone might be able to find a good use for that.

* Assuming, of course, no Sky Pirates are encountered. Then all bets are off.

Here's a link you can use:

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/crt-monitor-manufacturers.html

Yaj! In the light of the new vinyl rage, I would definitely welcome CRT screens for The Next iPad. Pick-up on the back side, monitor on the front, it would be the gadget of the year.

Here's a link you can use:

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/crt-monitor-manufacturers.html

Allwinner A10/ ARM system on a chip - $7 in quantity. This is the chip inside most low-end tablets.

No American intellectual property inside.

Not really. You could probably get carbon from coal cheaply enough. Especially with many countries no longer using coal from power plants and such. Carbon is not a rare element by any means. There's probably much cheaper ways to get carbon powder than heating up sugar to 1500 degrees. I really don't know how similar it is to what they are using, but graphite powder is pretty cheap. If you're actually using it produce batteries, the bulk price is even cheaper. Only about 20 cents a pound.

There's this strange illusion in the US that tablets are supposed to cost a few hundred dollars. Go look at tablets on Alibaba. ("Tablet pc: 474,433 products found.") 7-inch devices are mostly in the $50-$100 range. Over $100, you get a 10-inch screen. Most of them use an Allwinner $7 part, which has most of the electronics other than the display.

Look on Amazon. There's a good selection of tablets in the $60 range. Around $70, you start to get all the bells and whistles. And that's retail.

http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/help/100454412-1-alipay-escrow-services-agreement.html

...they will probably meet this goal is, because they sell knock-off junk where Amazon and eBay for the most part sell authentic goods. For example look at this knock off Samsung Note II http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/631593035/5inch_android_4_0_mtk6575_wifi.html that they are selling for roughly a third the price as the real thing. If you look at the box it comes in at the bottom of the ad it even says Note II inside a mock Samsung logo.

They mention the B2C site in the brief article, I would hope they are only counting it when doing the comparison. Since I'm pretty sure neither amazon or ebay sells anything like rice with a 1000 ton minimum order, crude oil with a 2 million barrel minimum order, or iron ore with a 150000 ton minimum.

They mention the B2C site in the brief article, I would hope they are only counting it when doing the comparison. Since I'm pretty sure neither amazon or ebay sells anything like rice with a 1000 ton minimum order, crude oil with a 2 million barrel minimum order, or iron ore with a 150000 ton minimum.

They mention the B2C site in the brief article, I would hope they are only counting it when doing the comparison. Since I'm pretty sure neither amazon or ebay sells anything like rice with a 1000 ton minimum order, crude oil with a 2 million barrel minimum order, or iron ore with a 150000 ton minimum.

It's a good idea, but $150 is too much. Generic 7 inch tablets are now down to $40-75 on Alibaba. This thing will probably drop below $100 on December 26th.

The future of computing is $79.95 tablets in blister packs at the convenience store. Intel, Microsoft, and Apple are desperately trying to stop this.

Tablet computers are becoming a commodity. A 7" tablet from China is only $70. On Amazon, you can now get Android tablets from $60. Since the Allwinner ARM system on a chip came out for $7, with no US intellectual property to run up the price, the compute power in low-end tablets has been quite impressive. Tablet computers are going to be something you buy in a blister pack at the convenience store.

How will Apple, with all their expensive stores on expensive real estate, and a business built on huge markups, deal with that? Their pricing is around $400, over five times the price of the competition. They can't maintain that margin.

There's a market for luxury items. The CEO of Rolex says "We are not in the watch business, we are in the luxury business. The volumes are small. Apple is too big a company to take that route. Apple may have to try coming out with lower-priced lines to compete.

India is actually one place tablet computers have persisted to be popular (and way before the iPad too), this one just got attention because of what it was and what its mission was at the time. And it is a dissapointment that it failed, but getting tablets at sub $50 price points in India is easy. If you want some yourself you can find them on alibaba.com, but don't count on finding many that are actually -made- in India.

Samples so nobody bitches:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/425363981/2012_PC_Tablet_7_inch_Android.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/586506340/7_inch_android_4_0_Rockchip.html