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Most handguns work fine. https://www.ammoland.com/2018/...

"angry NRA members"? Remind me... how many people have NRA members killed over the last year? ... or decade? Sure they might use harsh tones at times, but they tend to be a pretty non-violent group. Despite all of the rhetoric, CPL holders tend to be far less violent than the average member of the surrounding population: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/...

Simmer down dude ... no need to go full snowflake on me. I only meant angry at standing in a line and waiting for their license in the Florida heat. I'm pretty sure that would get pretty much anybody rather cranky after the first 30-45 minutes or so.

More to the point, why wasn't the system constructed in such a way that it is impossible for a bureaucrat to approve an application and issue a CCW permit without first completing a background check?

Two reasons I would imagine:

1) Background checks for CCW/CPLs are rarely a one time thing, ditto with BC related to employment, as you could have a bad thing show up on your record a month, a year, or three after the initial one.

2) Because of the expectation that there will be later checks, and default proceed attitude also coming from the NICS system, where if the FBI can't make a determination after 3 days, the seller

Two may sound crazy, but ask yourself: Should ones exercise of a specifically enumerated constitutional right be dependent upon the government working fast & efficiently?

That and the queue of angry NRA members waiting on their CCW licenses should provide a sufficient motivation to resolve any login issues post haste.

"angry NRA members"? Remind me... how many people have NRA members killed over the last year? ... or decade? Sure they might use harsh tones at times, but they tend to be a pretty non-violent group. Despite all of the rhetoric, CPL holders tend to be far less violent than the average member of the surrounding population: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/...

This is crux of the problem that I was pondering the other day as well. In order to have freedom and a free society, it means that it makes it very difficult to take away rights, arrest, detain, put into a mental institution, or take away guns until AFTER a crime was committed.

Exactly the problem. I started a listing of issues involve, d last night, but I'm out of town and it started getting confusing (long hiking vacation and I'm beat. Let's see if I can make a condensed version of what has changed over time.

Today's society has a one strike and you're out outlook on both sides of the aisle. A frustrated young man, especially a teenager, who has been told his whole life how worthless and evil he is, has nothing to lose. There is a good chance he has been drugged to keep him in line as well. so he has no idea of a healthy release of frustration or anger, or even just rambunctiousness. Strange side note. Responsible use of guns can even help. I know for myself, target shooting is incredibly relaxing. A state of mushin. Who knew zen and riflery could be in the same sentences?

I wonder about the life of some of these people. I don't believe much in profiling, only some trends.

I definitely do not accept that violent video games have a toxic effect on people. I play some seriously violent games, and violence in real life never crosses my mind. Is it possible that the violent games might have a calming effect overall?

Now as to what to do. Non-violent felons should have the right to bear arms after release and parole if deemed acceptable. I guess that might be up to their parole officer.

Mental states. This one really has to have a lot of actual discussion instead of the usual bs. Almost no one except for hard cores would think that this latest shooting perp wasn't a kook. Or the Sandy Hook nut - he looks like a junior head of the Heaven's gate whackos.

But as usual, we are getting the typical crap of calling these things false flag operations. Weird how kooks on both sides think that Sandy Hook was a Democrat operation and 9-11 was Republican. all ostensibly for gaining control of America.

That shit's gotta stop. One of the interesting things is seeing where the money has been coming from. I have some grave concerns about that.

But https://www.ammoland.com/2014/... shows that there is strong support for allowing people with mental problems to own and use.

We have to face it. There are influential people out there who want no regulations at all, and some likewise kooks who want no guns in civilian hands.

There has a be a discussion for a meeting of adult minds.

As you say, hind sight is 20/20, but at what point is it ok to stop someone based on a guess of what they might do, and how far can you really go, and still try to say that society has freedom. Can you interview the person, maybe, can you arrest them on the spot, probably not depending on the circumstances.

My guess is that you don't arrest them, merely confiscate the weaponry and catalog it for future release.

If I might note a personal experience, a fellow who lived up the road from me was really into his guns. One day his 7 year old son who is the same age as mine, brought one of his rifles to the bus stop, and was threatening to shoot other children, my son included.

The police confiscated his weapons on the rationale of his weapons storage being so unsafe that a 7 year old could access them and shoot other children. The guy claimed it was a violation of his second rights. Possibly. But with everyone else in the neighborhood owning, it's very likely that someone in a fit of anger because his own child was killed would gut shoot the guy just to watch him flop around and bleed out.

It's kind of bordering on pre-crime type limitations. You can't arrest som

Well it's about the concept of rebelling against the government if they become too powerful.

I can appreciate the sentiment, but I've got to tell you, I'm not hopeful.

http://legalinsurrection.com/w...

http://ammoland.com/wp-content...

In recent polling, 90% of Americans (including NRA members) said they wanted better background checks for gun licensing.

Proven bunk

I bet I could get a completely opposite answer if I polled, say, 100 members of a Texas gun club, instead of 100 students of a Connecticut liberal arts college, as the original pollsters did.

Let this be a lesson to you, regarding why you should take any poll result with a heaping helping of sodium chloride.

There has been some pushback on this:

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/firearms-equality-movement/#axzz2MIsTvqYJ

but no coverage on the mainstream news yet.

Bar Nigel Farage, who is the Chuck Norris of politics, it's like watching monkeys at typewriters.

You're saying Nigel Farage is a slightly paranoid, homophobic bigot, like Chuck?

Who writes in pencil in sixth grade anyway. I recommend they all bring in a pen. }B^>

D@mn, people.

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Johnny is staying home from school today principal, he told me, "My body is a weapon."

http://www.ammoland.com/2009/04/22/usa-buys-enough-guns-in-3-months-to-outfit-the-entire-chinese-and-indian-army/

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