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Geez. This article is naive.There are some real weapons which are far scarier.
The Thermobarbaric bomb.
Works the same way dynamite kills fish in a lake. Liquefies your organs. Nasty stuff.
Also, they left out cluster bombs. --The munition which kills and terrorizes civilian populations long after the war is 'over'.
They got the one about crowd control right, though. But the creepiest are the ones you use to screw up the nervous systems of people through the electro-magnetic sphere. (Even though, according to the cell phone companies and half of Slashdot, humans are not affected by non-ionizing EM. Whatever.)
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Re:umm
This is the picture that is actually in dispute, described in this news article
Hmm, seems like there's more to this story. Here's the lawsuit and photo as claimed by Ms. Snyder. Different picture.Apparently, Conestoga Valley School District were threatening to not recruit any more teachers from her university, unless she was punished in some way.
I agree the photo provided by Conestoga Valley School District shows her in a worse light, but the fact that (1) the photo was provided by CVSD and (2) it's in black and white implies some info which neither side is telling. Apparently someone at CVSD felt strongly enough about the photo to print it out and save a copy; perhaps to document a report on Ms. Snyder? CVSD is downplaying their involvement in this case, but their possession of the photo (or a related photo) would seem point to them being very involved in the decision to deny her her teaching certificate.
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Re:umm
This is the picture that is actually in dispute, described in this news article
Hmm, seems like there's more to this story. Here's the lawsuit and photo as claimed by Ms. Snyder. Different picture.Apparently, Conestoga Valley School District were threatening to not recruit any more teachers from her university, unless she was punished in some way.
I agree the photo provided by Conestoga Valley School District shows her in a worse light, but the fact that (1) the photo was provided by CVSD and (2) it's in black and white implies some info which neither side is telling. Apparently someone at CVSD felt strongly enough about the photo to print it out and save a copy; perhaps to document a report on Ms. Snyder? CVSD is downplaying their involvement in this case, but their possession of the photo (or a related photo) would seem point to them being very involved in the decision to deny her her teaching certificate.
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Re:hmm
That was a lawsuit allegation. Any sources besides the disgruntled student?
I was just responding to the parent, who asked for sources. An alternative point of view is given in a BBSNews article that contains parts of a press release by Conestoga Valley School District, which was linked several posts down. In it, Conestoga explicitly denies that they threatened not to use Millersville student teachers in the future. There's also Millersville's response, which is less than forthcoming.
She wasn't denied her teaching certificate due to this photograph.
I never meant to imply that she was. It certainly sounds like she had established a pattern well before the image was discovered. Especially if you believe the content in the BBSNews article. -
Re:umm
According to the Conestoga High School District, they DID NOT threaten to not accept any other teachers due to the Stacy Snyder issue. Since they were not named in the suit they provided a pretty detailed amount of information about the story. I also spoke to Millersville University and they said that Ms. Snyder was NOT denied a teaching certificate solely because of the photos. In our story it makes clear the totality of what has been termed "unprofessional" behavior. Ms. Snyder had also written an apology to both the school district and the university about the MySpace incident so there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye. In other words there was text with the photo we posted with the story that goes into a lot more detail, plus as far as I know we are the only news outlet who is carrying the real photo in question rather than the one that most news orgs first ran. Michael Hess Editor, BBSNews http://bbsnews.net/
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Re:Personal ResponsibilitySomething isn't right with this story and I don't think we know both sides of the story yet. This whole MySpace, Facebook, etc... crowd is probably hurting themselves more by using these services than doing good. I know that my company checks all of the "social networking" sites when someone applies for a job and more times than not, their online profiles cast them in a negative light. I dunno, some article say she was sending students to her myspace page. http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070502234811315 Even so, people get fired/reprimanded for all sorts of reasons. Most of the time not really for the reason stated but for a arbitrary "how to we get rid of this person" reason. If she was directing her students to her myspace page (and seriously, that obviously not a good idea. I mean I personnally don't care but it's obviously something you could get in trouble for) then I can believe she was doing other things which warrant no awarding her the certificate.
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Re:missteps in logicThere seems to be a couple missteps in their logic. 1. How does a picture of an adult drinking from a plastic cup while wearing a pirate costume constitute promoting underage drinking? I guess they felt that telling her students to visit her myspace page did. http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070502234811315
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Re:If anything ...If anything, they should have just reminded her to quietly take down the picture, so she would not go through the hell of having her students find out about her 20-something escapades.
They did. http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070502234811315 But no, when small-town redneck buttfuck USA sees anything that goes against Bible 2.0, you're screwed. If you do anything but suck Jaysus' cock in these towns you're a t'rrist and don't deserve to be treated like one of them.
Shit, I've had some bad photos taken of me. There's probably still a midget with a bondage fetish out there jerking off to that set of pictures. And if you directed school kids too those pictures (which is what they say she was doing) would you expect to get fired? -
Re:Define "promoting"?
In this article, linked by mikael(484), it says that the high school where she student taught often repremanded her for becoming too friendly in a non-professional way with some of her students, and encouraging them to visit her MySpace.
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070502234811315
Considering the "drunken pirate" photo, I can sort of understand how this invitation to look her up would cause some concern. Still, there's no reason to deny her a degree, just let her get out into the real world and get fired for being unprofessional then. These things usually sort themselves out. -
Re:hmm
That allegation has been denied by the school district in question. The article below also mentions that she was reprimanded several times (for the same offense) as a student teacher and that she needed "significant remediation" in several areas of her teaching abilities. There is more to the story, but it's generally being told (at least on slashdot) from a one-sided perspective. Here is another side: http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070502234811315
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Re:She was not denied her degree
Actually someone else posted this elsewhere in the thread, but there is definitely more to it.
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070502234811315
Seems she'd been reprimanded as a student teacher several times and she knew she was in the wrong. It doesn't seem to be as cut and dried as the original article would have us believe. Also, the picture posted in the original article is different than the one in the above article. Two very different images that give completely different impressions of a "teacher" if seen by students. -
Re:umm
This is the picture that is actually in dispute, described in this news article
Apparently, Conestoga Valley School District were threatening to not recruit any more teachers from her university, unless she was punished in some way.
Regardless of the picture, the School District or college have no right to amend her graduation qualifications, based on a single party photograph. -
Re:umm
This is the picture that is actually in dispute, described in this news article
Apparently, Conestoga Valley School District were threatening to not recruit any more teachers from her university, unless she was punished in some way.
Regardless of the picture, the School District or college have no right to amend her graduation qualifications, based on a single party photograph. -
Re:OT: Republican victory
I have a better article at home but hopefully this one will suffice:
But Democrats instead have turned on one of their own and will now lose both in the House and the Senate. Because of the same old lack of focus on the real issues that get people elected, they have chosen to let Republicans rule the agenda once again, and win.
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Re:that's because they are addicted to entertainme
bread and circuses junkies. The bulk of them can rattle off a list of some popular tatooed and pierced or cowboy hatted "entertainers", or all their sports gods stats, yet have no clue and can't even name their senators and house rep, let alone know how they stand on issues. I mean, shee-it, most people in the USA stil think we invaded iraq as payback for saddam attacking NYC. I mean, ignornat stupid mouth breathers.. They have no idea what is going on in real life other than they need to be entertained.
Americans aren't as stupid as you make them out to be. Recent polls show that the American people have stopped buying into the crap and utter nonsense floated by the Bush Administration:
However, just 37% of respondents in the poll agreed that Saddam was connected to the attacks and that the Iraq War was justified as retribution for his involvement, while 48% believed that there is no connection between Saddam and 9/11 and the Iraq War has diverted America's attention from the War on Terror.
Given all of the bogus information put out there by the Bush Administraton and given the way the media lapped it up prior to and after our invasion of Iraq, I'm not at all surprised that 37% of the American people believe there was some kind of connection between Saddam and 9/11. Hell according to other polls 36% of Americans believe that the federal goverment either had a hand in 9/11 or knew about it and did nothing to stop it so we could go to war in the Middle East.
Proof positive that those to the far left are just as ignorant and uninformed as those on the far right.
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Re:Quite the opposite.
Read more Heinlein:
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20050410221411103 -
Re:Cue the Dick Cheney jokes
http://bbsnews.net/bw2003-04-05.html http://www.rense.com/general20/innocentmanshot.ht
m http://www2.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200505/tows_p ast_20050526.jhtml http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2735735.stm http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id =4212279 http://www.local6.com/news/4174721/detail.html -
Re:No explosion?
Here are some good MOAB links (be sure to check out the various links on these pages):
http://bbsnews.net/bw2003-03-11a.html
More technical details about MOAB on this page:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/mun itions/moab.htm
And the biggest bomb of them all (other than Gigli):
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Re:yeah the American people
As of June 2002, 1 in 142 US residents are in jail. The average annual cost to incarcerate an inmate in state prison is $22,650
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FYI, about half of the people in federal prisons, and around 20% of those in state prisons, (or 27%, by the DEA's numbers, though there they say the federal rate is about 5%, but this contradicts the Federal Bureau of Prisons figure of 54%) are in on nothing more than mere drug offenses, correct?
IMO, we ought to legalize all drugs, tax the hell out of those which seriously impair one's ability to operate machinery (e.g. cars, guns, etc.) so as to pay for the consequences which may result from legalization. Regulate the sale of the harder drugs (coke, heroin, etc.) by requiring a doctor's prescription -- a prescription as a recreational drug, much like Viagra... But softer drugs ought to be available over-the-counter for adults.
Legalizing marijuana alone would end the arrests of about 750k Americans/year and save the U.S. $7b in enforcing this prohibition, plus another $2b in housing weed-charged inmates.
Eliminate drug offenses, and your rate would go to around 1 in 284 (about 0.35%) Americans... Plus, by freeing all those people, we'd have more people here working productively and therefore able to share the cost of incarcerating the *real* criminals -- the murderers, rapists, fraudsters, etc., so the average annual cost of incarcerating prisoners would drop... -
Re:If you want to save money...
That's
.7%, and if they did the crime, they can do the time.
Two questions:
A) Is the punishment justified based on the nature of the crime? Take the example of the kid doing 26 years for selling marijuana to other students. That's more punishment than many murderers and rapists will get.
B) Why did they commit the crime, and can we do something about that cause? In other words, can we attack crime at the roots rather than ripping it out after it's sprouted up?
The fact is that we have the largest percentage of our population who are or have done time of any nation in the world. Our rates have been climbing steadly for the several decades from .2% of our population in prison in 1978 to .7% today. He make up 5% of the population of the planet, but we have 25% of the world's prison population. Furthermore, a whopping 4.8% of the black population is in prison right now. That's nearly 1 in 20 and suggests a broken racial and economic policy. It doesn't help that that means 1 in 20 black people won't be able to find a decent job anymore once they're out.
Most of these offenders are there due to drug policy, especially "possession" violations. The federal prison population swelled from 57,000 in 1990 to 130,000 in 2000. 75,000 were drug offenders, and in 1999 over half of all drug offenders were first time offenders receiving on average 4 years in prison. Now, I'm not for legalizing drugs, but I am for taking it down from prison time and from having to report it on job applications for the rest your ruined life to a traffic-sized fine and mandatory rehab. Considering the root causes of drug abuse and its minimal effect on society compared to other crimes, we should be looking into constructive rather than destructive solutions for fixing people's lives. It would save both lives and taxpayer dollars to not have to house all these people in prison.
I assume they're talking about high-security lockdown, reserved for heinous crimes or prisoners who can't get along with the other prisoners and start fights or kill them. I say kill them off, but we keep them around and away from other people.
No, actually, they're probably talking about the fact that prisons don't do enough to prevent them from killing and raping other prisoners in the first place. Some prison guards actually encourage that sort of thing. Abu Ghraib and the presence of an America prison guard in the scandal were no surprise to anyone who has paid attention to prison abuse in America. Our prison situation is a huge shame for our nation. At least it should be, but there's a sizeable half of the voting population *cough* Republicans *cough* that likes it this way and poisons any public debate about fixing it. -
Re:I know far less than I should.
Actually, the army *wanted* him gone with the coup attempt in 2002 after Chavez's supporters opened fire on anti-Chavez protestors. He was removed from power, which the US governement applauded because he is a right bastard. However, after a day or two, elements in the army restored him to power. At which point, he spent the next year purging the military of those he felt were disloyal to him. He's disarming opposition police forces. Now he's rounding up and murdering political enemies, truck bombing countries who criticize him, and cozying up to other dictators.
Plenty of damning evidence against Chavez, these links are just the first I found while searching.