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In fact if I recall correctly, Microwave weapons were used quite successfully in Iraq during the assault on the airport when the coalition invaded in 2003. They apparently "shrank" the bodies of the victims although the place where they were buried was dug up and the bodies taken away. They were being deployed to soldiers against crowd control and there have been many tests on willing subjects. So I would say they are ready. Have link for the second claim.

I highly doubt that someone in the public eye as much as Assange (not to mention someone who is under a microscope already) would have something to do with rape.

Yeah, public figures who do bad thing, that could never happen...

'I vote for Cthulhu shaped pylons.'

Pylons are frightening enough already, as anyone exposed to scary UK children's TV in the 70s can tell you:

http://www.bilderberg.org/changes.htm

That's an old link. The Illuminati have merged with Bilderberg. Ignore all the conspiracy theory shit. That's just to make you think you're not on the real Bilderberg site.

...on down the food chain are all bilderbergers (news and expose site). They decide what is news and what isn't, based on this years goals they have in mind, which wars to promote, which "popular" candidates they will push into office, etc. That of itself is one of the top censored stories, and has been for a long time, how a relatively small number of people actually run most of the planet. You see plenty of coverage of Davos, G8, etc, etc, but bilderberger? the topdogs on the planet getting together to "discuss' high stakes geopolitical issues? It is NOT a coincidence that it is mostly spiked every year. They don't want the herds to really find out just how much they are lead around by the nose all the time.

it's simple really .. Tony Blair and most of the Labour government are not true liberals .. they just ran as liberals to get elected .. something that has been going on for quite sometime now .. they just use a softer stance to appear to be a better chose than the hard line conservatives .. the majority of all politicians are members of the ruling class .. regardless of which party they belong to ..

they also own the media by the way .. not to mention the banks etc.

this all really happened in and around 1948 .. the year that Orwell wrote 1984 .. with the arrival of broadcast and cable TV ..

party politics democracy is a ruling class ..

simple majority democracies are noting but limited dictatorships .. calling themselves democracies ..

in a real and true democracy .. there and be no representation in lieu of the people .. party .. constitution .. or otherwise ..

but as Stanley Milgram and others have pointed out .. that 65% and upward .. of any given population can be counted on to simply submit to authority .. it's a done deal ..

and the ruling class is very well aware of this fact ..

http://www.stanleymilgram.com/

modern technology is just making it possible for the ruling class to have the amount of control and power that they have always wanted ..and thought was their birth rite anyway .. but did not have the man power or means to make it so ..

a good place to start investigating .. Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars .. the 25 anniversary is believed to be referencing to the first Bilderberg meeting ..

http://whale.to/b/dyke.html
http://whale.to/b/silentweapon.html
http://www.bilderberg.org/bildhist.htm

Anti-trust laws are the biggest impediment to the growth of progress

I disagree. In fact, anti-trust laws are necessary to maintain a democracy. Are you against democracy, sir?

on the basis that they stifle competition

A monopoly by definition has no competition. Anti-trust laws prevent monopolies. Furthermore monopolies often use unfair and anti-competitive practices to squash competition that have absolutely no benefit to the consumer. For example, Standard Oil used train agreements and other unfair business practices against competitors. Microsoft specifically putin instructions to prevent DR-DOS from being used with Windows 3.1. Both practices relied on the dominance of Standard Oil and Microsoft in their respective markets.

and create unnecessary burden on companies and the judicial system.

I disagree that it unncessary. Anti-trust laws, by regulating unfair business practices a necessary burden on the few companies large enough to become a monopoly. I would guess that the proportion of anti-trust cases and thus their "burden" to all legal cases in the U.S. to be minimal (probably less than 1%).

There is and was no-one stopping Netscape to giveaway a whole operating system (Linux - Suse?) in competition to MS giving away only a browser for free.

A horrible argument. If I'm competing with you in creating a product in market A, why should your standing in market B influence this? This is anti-competitive. To make an analogy, suppose we are to run a race (100 meter dash), but the condition is that I have to do a series of sommersaults and cartwheels before I can leave the starting line. The relative merit of our products (our ability to complete the 100 meter dash) is obscured by the fact you have an unfair advantage. My product may be superior and of better benefit to the customers, but you still "win".

a default monopoly market (Windows operating system) are corrected by ...more innovative players (Apple Mac OSX)

Your example of MacOSX is also not a valid example. Apple's OS market share is still less than 4% worldwide, despite its innovations. In addition Microsoft has (1) given funding to Apple and (2) continued to make Microsoft Office products for Apple. Why? It's not from the goodness of Bill Gate's heart. Microsoft provided funding and continued Office support for Apple precisely to prevent further anti-trust litigation. If there were no anti-trust laws, there would have been no further funding, nor further work on the Microsoft Office line for the Macintosh, and the Mac line would have gone the way of the Commodore Amiga.

Then why should humans create unrealistic market conditions by means of highly subjective laws like Anti-trust

Anti-trust laws exist in actual law and are part of the market conditions here in the United States. You can't get much more "realistic" than fact. Perhaps you live in another dimension?

As to the claim of subjectivity, my knowledge of anti-trust law is not sufficient to give a definitive argument on how subjective it is. But more to the point, you provide no evidence or argument as to why objectivity would automatically be superior.

Fundamentally, the problem with monopolies is the abuse of "bundling". For example, suppose you have a system of toll roads. Company A, through acquesitions, acquires a monopoly (or even a substantial, say 60%) of the toll roads. Company A keeps the prices competitive with other companies in regards to toll pricing. So far so good.

Now suppose Company A is competing with Company B in supplying and manufacturing cars. Company A adds as a "feature" that every car created by Company A automatically gets a 25% discount on the tolls. This creates a competitive advantage for Company A, and stifles the potential advantage for C

Lists from previous years (Okay, not recent years). A strange mix of people.

If anything the BG is an offensive spectacle of rich people sitting on their asses doing nothing for anyone. It's far from a conspiracy. Don't try to build suspense telling us that "we will hear about them" soon. Bullshit. We already know about them. They're a bunch of Western fatcats getting together to pat each other on the back. Perhaps if they had any OPEC in there, they'd wield some world power. They haven't, and they don't.

.. stick your fingers in your ears, go "La la la la", and don't read up on the Bilderberg Group. The guy who runs the site is a little too "Alex Jones" for my tastes, but dig deep and you'll find some interesting tidbits. It makes sense though, if you think about it - having a conference where you can say exactly what you think, without worrying about how it will affect you politically.

Haven't heard of National City Lines, have ya? This is exactly waht they did in 1936. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_City_Lines

The end result was the destructon of 100 public transportation systems and replacement with their own product -- their buses that use their fuel and their tires... Cost the local governements has been estiamted at billions.

"Between 1936 and 1950, National City Lines, a holding company sponsored and funded by GM, Firestone, and Standard Oil of California, bought out more than 100 electric surface-traction systems in 45 cities (including New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, Tulsa, and Los Angeles) to be dismantled and replaced with GM buses... In 1949 GM and its partners were convicted in U.S.district court in Chicago of criminal conspiracy in this matter and fined $5,000." -- http://www.bilderberg.org/nclchoms.htm

closer to intellectual property standards in the rest of the industrialized world

Global standards guys, global forces, one world, one global state. Bilderberg have even admitted they will need to use UN forces to control American patriots.

The world is being turned upside down by the Illuminati and all you can find to write about is Network Time.

When you have an implanted chip it will sync with government illuminati Bilderberg time servers so will you will never be late for work again. Think of the convenience. All your personal data on one implanted chip with RFID.

Here's another interesting fact. Slashdot posting is way down since a year ago, due mainly to lame articles like this.

Really, why, in North America, are we so fixated on the automobile for personal transport?

Because some big corporations (General Motors & some others in the auto industry) decided they'd make more money that way. Here's one blurb that starts discussing it (scroll down a few paragraphs):

One dramatic example is the "Los Angelizing" of the US economy, a huge state-corporate campaign to direct consumer preferences to "suburban sprawl and individualized transport -- as opposed to clustered suburbanization compatible with a mix of rail, bus, and motor car transport," Richard Du Boff observes in his economic history of the United States, a policy that involved "massive destruction of central city capital stock" and "relocating rather than augmenting the supply of housing, commercial structures, and public infrastructure." The role of the federal government was to provide funds for "complete motorization and the crippling of surface mass transit";

Another choice quote:

The private sector operated in parallel: "Between 1936 and 1950, National City Lines, a holding company sponsored and funded by GM, Firestone, and Standard Oil of California, bought out more than 100 electric surface-traction systems in 45 cities (including New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, Tulsa, and Los Angeles) to be dismantled and replaced with GM buses... In 1949 GM and its partners were convicted in U.S.district court in Chicago of criminal conspiracy in this matter and fined $5,000."

Here's a more detailed history of the controlled demolition of the Bay Area "Key System":

General Motors, and some other companies in the automobile industry, acquired 64% of the stock of the Key System (officially the Railway Equipment and Realty Company) through a "front" company, National City Lines, in 1946. They replaced the board of directors with their own stooges, who then approved a motion to scrap company plans to purchase PCC type streetcars and electric trolleybuses. Today it would be called a "hostile take-over." Orders for more trains were cancelled. Soon they started to decimate the system, first destroying the electric trolleybus line (that, while still under construction, was almost completed) followed by streetcars and electric trains.

It's a small comfort to know that the US government whoring itself to corporate America's interests is not a recent phenomenon.

References:
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And the good folks of bilderberg guide the governments.

Okay, so government and corporations aren't really in power. It's the Secret Elite that controls them?

We don't have GM make the road...then insist you ...only drive GM cars on it.

If you really are a bus driver, you might be interested in this. Most cities used to have a privately-owned trolley system that was an excellent means of transportation for the people (I live in quite a small city and it did). GM (along with Standard Oil and Firestone) didn't really care for people to have access to quality mass transportation so they formed a holding company called National City Lines to buy up the trolley companies and shut them down. Of course, a lot of people still didn't own personal transportation (yet) so NCL was quick to supply GM busses rolling on Firestone tires and burning Standard Oil. So, in a way, GM is responsible for the way our transportation system is organized.

More detail here and here.

er, why would you think that? intellectual property has only become stronger over the last 20, 100, 500 years.

government regulation of economic rights parallels economic growth. when agriculture became the dominant economic model, feudalism and land-rights became entrenched. when capitalism and the industrial revolution made their debut, property rights becamed enshrined by the state. now that we are heading into a "post-industrial" (don't blame me for that phrase), information-based economy, intellectual property rights will becomed entrenched.

let's face it: the opensource folks like us are the diggers and godwinists of the information revolution. we will impact the nature of property rights, but not abolish them.

doubt me? read up on the diggers and william godwin. sounds like the oss movement today, right?

"Hmm, who should I vote for? The puppet on my left hand? Or the puppet on my right? Wait a second! There's one guy holding the puppets!"

Sad, but true. How can a donation be political (in support of policy), when you pay both teams?

I can see it now. Next Bush campaign - democracy in the USA! ... Maybe not :)

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cLive ;-)

ps - the more paranoid amongst you may also wish to check out the Bilderberg Group.

Natural is a good choice of words. North Americans are the most propagandized people in the world [5000+ words of advertising/day supported by extensive psych research, vast array of rhetorical images, plus exposure to corporate media] and we don't even like hearing the word capitalist, for the most part, it has a faint whiff of taboo. There has been a couple of hundred years of development in the 'naturalization' of capitalism, using everything from some pretty crank science to curriculum to the active squashing of real alternatives. In order to naturalize an idea/practise you have to make it 'like water to a fish'--inevitable and nigh unnoticeable. Once that is done, contradictions and paradigmatic problems are obscured fairly easily. This is the foundation of any ideology (in the political sense).

You are also mostly right about its success in developing capabilities... well, a narrow set of capabilities, I would argue, but it develops them well. In particular, entrepeneurialism ('the french don't even have a word for that' -- G.W.Bush) has been exalted into a near-saintly quality, and I see great emotional and infrastructural support for entrepeneurs, something that monopoly capitalism (read: soviet russia, china, and other so called communist states) doesn't. But the entrepeneurial spirit doesn't necessarily lead to healthy communities and families, or pure research, or amazing art, for instance.

I would also suggest that capitalism is about much more than money/capital as an end. The conglomeration of power and control with the willing participation of its subjects is always the intended end product of ideologies. Which brings us back to the richest man in the world, and by extension, the Bilderbergers. No mistake: in this context, Evangelism IS war.

Destroy the conspiracy theories? I think not!

You guys just all wait untill the Bildeberg Group unleashes Space Gozilla to finally rid us of the Nazi UFO's! Then we will all know who killed JFK and you puny mortals will finally believe that the Moon Landings were all a hoax!

Give up on conspiracy theories? Yeah right!

"Fusion ignition is harder than anyone thought 30 years ago"

Ignition isn't the problem, either. The problem is keeping the reaction under control afterwards!

=Smidge=

Shut up and obey your Illuminati Masters. You all sat around and did nothing when They destroyed the economies of countries like Russia and Argentina, thinking "It can't happen here". Well guess what? It's happening NOW. And you see those heavily armed troops on the streets? If you don't like it, they will kill you. BAD LUCK BUDDY! YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE LET IT GO THIS FAR! YOU LOSE! ALL OF YOU!

it's fantastic for the people working at H2G2 that they have financial stability, and now can actually be paid etc. I'm happy for them :)

but... and I'm probably being needlesly cynical, doesn't this remind anyone of AOL-Time-Warner?

at least this time it's the Old Media company acquiring the New Media one. I wouldn't be surprised to find the BBC trying to "integrate" other communities to try and build up a strong user base. I wonder if one reason a huge content/media company like the BBC (which resembles Time-Warner more than CNN) is interested in "online communities" is to create "captive audiences" for its content produced in-house.

The BBC may not be a traditional profit-oriented corp but it has had problems with censorship. For example, will they allow any articles on "BBC Sucks!" on H2G2 ? Will they demand that user comments be edited?

I'm just expressing the hope that the BBC will give H2G2 the creative, artistic, and administrative freedoms that they promised. A public pledge/statement by BBC Online reps would be more binding than a press release.

For the BBC, acquiring H2G2 is quite a coup. I hope they have the wisdom to see that it's value stems directly from its independence. I think there are reasons to be critical of the BBC (for example, 1, 2, 3)