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Looks like escaping and URL Encoding the underscore doesn't work either (both as an "" tag and a slashdot "" and it seems to put in extra spaces on its own):
http://the_scrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyrigh t-is-dead.html (<a href="http://the%5Fscrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/ copyright-is-dead.html>http://the_scrivener.blogsp ot.com/2007/06/copyright-is-dead.html</a>)
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html (<url:http://the%5Fscrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/ copyright-is-dead-part-2.html></url>)

But luckily, tinyurl works: http://tinyurl.com/2cocox and http://tinyurl.com/3ypwrz

Looks like escaping and URL Encoding the underscore doesn't work either (both as an "" tag and a slashdot "" and it seems to put in extra spaces on its own):
http://the_scrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyrigh t-is-dead.html (<a href="http://the%5Fscrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/ copyright-is-dead.html>http://the_scrivener.blogsp ot.com/2007/06/copyright-is-dead.html</a>)
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html (<url:http://the%5Fscrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/ copyright-is-dead-part-2.html></url>)

But luckily, tinyurl works: http://tinyurl.com/2cocox and http://tinyurl.com/3ypwrz

Wrong sucka! http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html BTW: this is the funniest thing I've ever seen on /.

Wrong sucka! http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html BTW: this is the funniest thing I've ever seen on /.

I have found the following links still working at the moment for aspects of this story:

Link.
Link.
Link.
Link.
Link.
Link.

damn it it messed up my links too.

it's not: thescrivener
it is: the_scrivener

slashdots auto-url must remove it for some reason

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html

by the way, fuck you comment delay time.
6 minutes since my last comment should be enough....

damn it it messed up my links too.

it's not: thescrivener
it is: the_scrivener

slashdots auto-url must remove it for some reason

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html

by the way, fuck you comment delay time.
6 minutes since my last comment should be enough....

nope those are broken also. submitted the story hours ago with the working links. http://surfdez.blogspot.com/2007/06/first-daughter s-are-pirates.html will get you there. i dont feel like logging in to edit,copy, and paste again.

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html

Correct Link:

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html

The URLs you posted, as well as others in this discussion AND in the summary are all dead. If you go to the guy's main blog page http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/ the article doesn't even show up in his archive. I believe it is safe to say the post has been pulled.

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html

Links should be:

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html

Links should be:

http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead.html
http://thescrivener.blogspot.com/2007/06/copyright -is-dead-part-2.html

The problem isn't black-box electronic voting, or paper ballots with dimpled chads, or any of the hypothetical situations you can conjure. One aspect of the problem is trust. We must not trust any one entity, whether Diebold or Fred and Ethel the election judges, to count the votes.

Read Acceptable Electronic Voting. Here is an excerpt:

There are two fundamental resources in voting, the physical ballot and the information contained on the ballot, the votes. The ballot is important as a physical record of the intention of the voter, but the information on the ballot is far more important to the process. A ballot may contain several votes, one per contest (except for multiple-choice board races, ballot initiatives, etc.).

The job of both electronic voting and paper ballots is quickly and securely converting the ballot into a vote, while maintaining the physical record for what is essentially forensic analysis. The situations are almost opposite: with electronic voting, bits can be mangled and made not to match the physical record, if any, but with paper ballots the paper can be mangled, discarded, or destroyed before, during, or after the counting process. Both processes are subject to time shifting: we don't know when the bits in an EVS got there, nor do we know when the paper ballots were cast. All we have are the controls in place, so we can at least get to the reasonable doubt level with paper ballots, but not, as you say, with black box electronic ones.

What's needed is a hybrid, to avoid violating the security principle of Least Common Mechanism. If the electronic system creates a physical record of each ballot/vote, and sends the results in itself, then if each voter checks the physical record as it is created there is an extremely high likelihood that the vote tally will be accurate. If a paper ballot reader tallies the votes itself, there is already a physical record.

Either way, by separating the counting from the collection of ballots, you avoid Least Common Mechanism and force a tamperer to match any electronic tampering to physical tampering, which is a lot harder than doing one or the other. The physical ballots should be counted the same as always, and serve as the official ballot since they will be there for verification. It then doesn't really matter whether the voting machine is open or not.

Also, there are several studies that indicate both maternal and paternal age effects the IQ of the child. They seem to indicate either physiological or social and psychological factors as the parent suggests. Maternal Age and Autism More Autism Studies Paternal Age

Wow, now I know who for sure not to hire when I need an attorney. ...tho curiously, according to the california bar association, he hasn't been eligible to practice law since 1/1/01. ...Plus, there's this other little thing: he doesn't appear to know what he's talking about.. Forgive me if I find this guy less than credible. (and of course, since I'm posting AC, you shouldn't take my word for it. Look for yourself.)

Fake Bill Gates says the iPhone can be a total flop, but it's still going to shake up the cell phone industry.

Fake Bill Gates says the iPhone can be a total flop, but it's still going to shake up the cell phone industry.

Fake Bill Gates wrote about this notion. He thinks the bigger picture is being overlooked. (see: The Case of the Missing Browsers (Why iPhone Can't Fail, Even if it Flops)

Fake Bill Gates wrote about this notion. He thinks the bigger picture is being overlooked. (see: The Case of the Missing Browsers (Why iPhone Can't Fail, Even if it Flops)

that $50 printer will tell you that you need more ink in 6 months

I had high hopes that when CERN switched on the LHC in November of this year, they would inadvertently create a black hole, thus increasing the sales of my book, 'The Ancient Order of Moridura' (with a related theme of a nascent singularity created by a meteorite impact in Extremadura). But then I realised that the extinction of the planet - and probably the solar system - would prevent me from collecting my royalties. Life can be unfair sometimes! However, doomsday has been postponed until April/May of 2008 because of problems with magnets. The Higgs boson must be chuckling quietly in interstellar space, its anonymity preserved for a little longer. http://moridura.blogspot.com/ regards Peter Curran Edinburgh, Scotland

Do I detect the smell of burning martyr? Let me guess, another one who takes scientific scrutiny of his claims as attempts at censorship.

He's just got a sharp sense of humour. Mind you, looking at the immediate reaction of "he's not a true climatologist" I can see why.

There is something scarily religious about people that really believe in global warming - that the earth is doomed unless we make sacrifices, or buy indulgences in the form of emissions trading permits.

Personally, I don't know. And I reckon in my life time the worst case rise of a degree or so is no biggie. I'd rather choose a richer world than one which is a degree cooler but with a trashed economy. Mind you, I suspect doing nothing will not cause a catastophe, either economic or environmental.

Lie, some countries have kept records of climate ever since the invention of the meteorological instruments in the 17th century, today we have over 7000 stations that measure land temperatures, we also use satellites to measure sea levels, water and troposphere temperatures.

Hmm here's what Nasa say

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/ghcc_cvcc.html
Mankind's impact on the global climate and whether pollution from modern energy use is indeed warming the Earth have become important issues for national and international policy makers. Political pressure and public sentiment are based on complex data sets that, alone, cannot tell the whole story. The ultimate question is whether our climate is becoming warmer because of the slow build-up in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations. The answer is not clear, because much of what we know about global climate change in inferred from historical evidence of uncertain quality. Reliable ground-based measurements by scientific instruments have been made just in this century

As Lubos Motl put it (sorry another physicsist this time at Harvard, guess that means you can ignore his arguments just like you ignored Nobel prize winning physicist Freeman Dyson's)
http://motls.blogspot.com/2005/01/global-mean-temp erature-1978-2004.html
I guess that you won't be surprised that we may be heating the surface a bit. On the other hand, stratosphere seems to be cooling quite clearly, as NASA's satellite graphs show. I am certainly not claiming that the cooling of the stratosphere proves that the global warming theory is wrong; it does not prove that it is correct either. They usually say that the cooling comes from ozone depletion:
The GHCC people from NASA are, of course, cautious, and they don't use simplified cliches such as that they have proved global cooling. Instead, they say that the answer about the existence of human-induced greenhouse global warming is not clear.

So basically the old measurements are unreliable and the new ones don't give unambiguous evidence of any simple warming trend.

In the absence of total catastophe right now and I mean like in The Day Tomorrow not some dubious trendline in cherry picked noisy data, I'm afraid I'm all for waiting and seeing. I still don't trust any model of climate enough that I spend Kyoto sized chunks of cash based on its predictions of the climate in a century or so. Hell, I wouldn't even bet a tenner on them being right next week.

Now at this point, I'd expect a load of one liners about the difference between climate and weather. But that's bunk. It's a big chaotic system - we can't predict it next week and we can't predict it next century, anymore than we can predict the stock market over short or long terms. Mind you, if your computer models have let you make a few billion on the stock market, I'm definitely interested. Hell I'll even believe in your loony religion if you pay me cold hard cash.

Do I detect the smell of burning martyr? Let me guess, another one who takes scientific scrutiny of his claims as attempts at censorship.

He's just got a sharp sense of humour. Mind you, looking at the immediate reaction of "he's not a true climatologist" I can see why.

There is something scarily religious about people that really believe in global warming - that the earth is doomed unless we make sacrifices, or buy indulgences in the form of emissions trading permits.

Personally, I don't know. And I reckon in my life time the worst case rise of a degree or so is no biggie. I'd rather choose a richer world than one which is a degree cooler but with a trashed economy. Mind you, I suspect doing nothing will not cause a catastophe, either economic or environmental.

Lie, some countries have kept records of climate ever since the invention of the meteorological instruments in the 17th century, today we have over 7000 stations that measure land temperatures, we also use satellites to measure sea levels, water and troposphere temperatures.

Hmm here's what Nasa say

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/ghcc_cvcc.html
Mankind's impact on the global climate and whether pollution from modern energy use is indeed warming the Earth have become important issues for national and international policy makers. Political pressure and public sentiment are based on complex data sets that, alone, cannot tell the whole story. The ultimate question is whether our climate is becoming warmer because of the slow build-up in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations. The answer is not clear, because much of what we know about global climate change in inferred from historical evidence of uncertain quality. Reliable ground-based measurements by scientific instruments have been made just in this century

As Lubos Motl put it (sorry another physicsist this time at Harvard, guess that means you can ignore his arguments just like you ignored Nobel prize winning physicist Freeman Dyson's)
http://motls.blogspot.com/2005/01/global-mean-temp erature-1978-2004.html
I guess that you won't be surprised that we may be heating the surface a bit. On the other hand, stratosphere seems to be cooling quite clearly, as NASA's satellite graphs show. I am certainly not claiming that the cooling of the stratosphere proves that the global warming theory is wrong; it does not prove that it is correct either. They usually say that the cooling comes from ozone depletion:
The GHCC people from NASA are, of course, cautious, and they don't use simplified cliches such as that they have proved global cooling. Instead, they say that the answer about the existence of human-induced greenhouse global warming is not clear.

So basically the old measurements are unreliable and the new ones don't give unambiguous evidence of any simple warming trend.

In the absence of total catastophe right now and I mean like in The Day Tomorrow not some dubious trendline in cherry picked noisy data, I'm afraid I'm all for waiting and seeing. I still don't trust any model of climate enough that I spend Kyoto sized chunks of cash based on its predictions of the climate in a century or so. Hell, I wouldn't even bet a tenner on them being right next week.

Now at this point, I'd expect a load of one liners about the difference between climate and weather. But that's bunk. It's a big chaotic system - we can't predict it next week and we can't predict it next century, anymore than we can predict the stock market over short or long terms. Mind you, if your computer models have let you make a few billion on the stock market, I'm definitely interested. Hell I'll even believe in your loony religion if you pay me cold hard cash.

The people are coming, so doing something about feeding them just makes sense: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/05/scrooge.html.

Plants are more efficient than solar cells at being plants, but they are less efficient at making energy for us: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/02/photosynthesis .html. This is why we can just use the roof space we have to cover all of our energy use with 15% efficient solar panels, but trying to just cover liquid fuels use with plants runs into land use problems. But, you don't have to get your electricity from the Sun alone. Wind could be used for this as well.
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Sprout silicon leaves: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/01/slashdot-users -selling-solar.html

Plants are more efficient than solar cells at being plants, but they are less efficient at making energy for us: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/02/photosynthesis .html. This is why we can just use the roof space we have to cover all of our energy use with 15% efficient solar panels, but trying to just cover liquid fuels use with plants runs into land use problems. But, you don't have to get your electricity from the Sun alone. Wind could be used for this as well.
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Sprout silicon leaves: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/01/slashdot-users -selling-solar.html

There are already laws on the books in a number of states that can help to protect landowner's rights to solar energy access. In NYC, local zoning is controlling: http://www.dsireusa.org/library/includes/tabsrch.c fm?state=NY&type=Access&back=regtab&Sector=S&Curre ntPageID=7&EE=1&RE=1 Most solar access laws were passed after the oil shocks of the seventies.

Senator Menendez of NJ has introduced federal legislation to ensure access rights: http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/partner/s tory?id=47928
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Rent solar power with no installation cost: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/01/slashdot-users -selling-solar.html

I just drove through Manhattan and felt very stupid to be driving. Remembering that NYC has a huge park in the middle and so does not seem to mind spending some space on plants, it seems to me that walking a block for some really fresh food might please people. One thing I did not understand on the web site was that they were worrying about ripening tomatoes but it seems to me that people would buy as soon as the tomatoes were available, so that green storage issues would not be a big deal.
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Fresh photons at low cost: http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/01/slashdot-users -selling-solar.html

MythTV doesn't fast forward, it does commercial skip. Automatically. It hits a commercial break and just jumps past.

Tivo used to allow a really nice FF feature to skip commercials. Now they overlay advertisements on top of the advertisements you are fast forwarding through. Not to mention the advertising in the rest of the UI. If you own one, you should know what I'm talking about. If not, Google found me someone's blog with pictures

Perhaps Dell's reluctance to sell Ubuntu Dell's to Business has something to do with the level of support Ubuntu requires vs Windows. There's a lot of tinkering being enjoyed by all us linux users, I get a big kick myself out of creating applications for my Knoppix remaster, Rapidweather Remaster of Knoppix Linux. (See screenshots, below)
Windows, on the other hand, is pretty much tinker-proof, nobody knows the source code, let alone fix anything by rewriting the scripts that make it up. If I have something that does not work like I want it to in my Remaster, then I get to it, and fix it like I want.

The Dell-Ubuntu-Windows situation might be compared to a Automobile dealership, that has a sports car on the showroom floor to "attract sales traffic", but does not really want to wind up fixing these cars constantly, since they are being bought by "boy racers", and others that are running the tar out of them.
The dealers will go to any lengths to get traffic in the showrooms, they will have a NASCAR racer displayed out front, even have a driver signing autographs.
The dealership is only making money if they sell cars to a bunch of old ladies that just drive the cars like they were supposed to be, and not racing them around.

Are we "racing linux around", trying to get it to break, overheat, and spin out in the curve? Sure we are. We all laugh at the "blue screen of Death". Same thing happens in Linux, but it does not go to a "blue screen". We can back out, and "kill" the offending process, and bring the system back up to normal, without a reboot. You just have to know how to do it, just like a race car owner has to know how to get the most out of his car.
Is Dell doing the race car out front thing by offering "Ubuntu"? Are they just keeping the linux zelots "happy", but not really wanting to have thousands of business support calls on Ubuntu systems, which could be a nightmare. For Vista, Dell offers that neat restoration Image that is made just as the machine leaves the factory floor, with all of your software, so you can "restore" your Vista Dell machine to "factory fresh" condition if it gets fouled up. Usually by adding software, such as LabVIEW 7.1 that is not really Vista compatible, but designed for XP. That can bring a Vista box to a real "no boot" condition fast!
As far as the linux tinkering goes, just look at my Getting Started Guide, it really tends to show that I have tinkered Knoppix into something that no longer remotely resembles the original Knoppix 3.4 in many ways. (One can actually do some work with it now)
My latest fun thing is having it run off Sandisk USB drives, both 2 and 4 GB.
Check my blog for information on that. (I'm running it now from a 4 GB USB drive, persistent home, swap, everything needed to ditch the HD )
Dell wouldn't want to have to do "support" for my Remaster any more than they do for Ubuntu.

I've been hunting all over for some report on the actual sales numbers for these Dell Ubuntu systems and have come up empty so far. If anyone has any info or point me to a link I'd appreciate it.

- http://1linux.blogspot.com/

I think they shall have told the users straight away. Thats the only problem I see in their approach. Maybe it was naive to think that putting them in in plain would not be noticed. But, I think it is good that they didnt put watermarks in ... geez who knows, might be interesting to compare the same song downloaded from two different iTunes accounts ... they should differ apart from the apID and the name. Has anyone tried this? Well, at least you can simply blind / overwrite the values using a simple Perl script, if you are concious about your privacy or that your iBook or iPod gets stolen. I described the process and put the script on my Blog at http://vernard-luxe.blogspot.com/2007/06/blind-app les-itunes-user-information.html I cant wait to see what Meta-Data the future has to offer.

00 Buck on The Boundary Bay Morning Steamer"
http://boundarybaymorningsteamer.blogspot.com/2007 /06/robert-alan-soloway-revenge-of_16.html
has a neat notion. Flood the joint where Soloway is holed up with postcards and letters. We all should do the same to Vitale.

I don't know why i'm responding to an AC. Get a user account you coward. Anyways, that blog is pathetic.
These guys are so mad that they might actually make a reasonable browser for the Macintosh at long last.
And their true intentions come out.
...Nonetheless, FireFox is slower than Safari, crashes more often, and still doesn't support the KeyChain on Mac OS X. Why not? Why is FireFox so mediocre?
Those are great metrics for measuring how good Firefox is, except I don't know the last time I have had Firefox crash (on Linux or Windows). This guy's world apparently only consists of OS X. Which is what, 3% of the desktop market? Less if measured on monthly sales over the last several years.

Get real dude; but have fun reinterpreting this from Steve Jobs wanting the non IE market to an Apple Secret Plan. I like how all of a sudden this guy reinterprets the picture in the presentation to something closer to his view of what the Apple Secret Plan is. Do you really think Safari can have 24% of the browser market by 2008? Seriously?

More importantly, how is a blog credible with an entry titled: A Picture is Worth 1000 Morons" What about the flameworthy text from the first paragraph: I never cease to be amazed at how smart people can be so fraking stupid. Take John Lilly, Mozilla's chief operating officer. This little piss ant thorn in my side was handed a gift on a silver platter by Steve Jobs at WWDC, but he's too stupid and arrogant to read the tea leaves that Jobs spread out on the table before him.

The issue of the start menu has come up previously. The last time it did I remember reading a blog of the MS guy who was working on it (can someone supply the reference).

I found it, and the related posts to the menu by Joel.

That' far worse than Channel 9 hinted at and apparently a big problem that grew with XP and exploded during Vista. Some comments I selected.

Moishe, the dev who worked on the menu:

The most frustrating year of those seven was the year I spent working on Windows Vista, which was called Longhorn at the time. I spent a full year working on a feature which should've been designed, implemented and tested in a week.

Also each team was separated by 6 layers of management from the leads, so let's add them in too, giving us 24 + (6 * 3) + 1 (the shared manager) 43 total people with a voice in this feature [: the shutdown menu].

By the time I left the team the total code that I'd written for this "feature" [in a year] was a couple hundred lines, tops.

approximately every 4 weeks, at our weekly meeting, our PM would say, "the shell team disagrees with how this looks/feels/works" [...] Then at our next weekly meeting we'd spend another 90 minutes arguing about the design, [...] and at the next weekly meeting we'd agree on something... just in time to get some other missing piece of information from the shell or kernel team, and start the whole process again.

Windows has a tree of repositories: developers check in to the nodes, and periodically the changes in the nodes are integrated up one level in the hierarchy. [...] the node I was working on was 4 levels removed from the root. [...] it [took] between 1 and 3 months for my code to get to the root node, and some multiple of that for it to reach the other nodes.

Stanely Krute, ex-Microsoft developer:

In 1989 I worked on Windows UI for a brief period. [..] Even then one could see that what MS did to IBM would eventually happen to MS [..] Vista is a bloated baroque thing that adds some kernel security and eye candy at the cost of doubling a machine's RAM and adding a high-end graphics chip.

Anonymous ex-Microsoft manager:

I was a manager at Microsoft during some of this period [..] [There is] promiscuous dependency [, including circular dependencies, ] taking between parts of Windows without much analysis of the consequences. [...] There was much work done analyzing the internal structure of Windows [suv4x4: note they're not familiar with the structure of their *own* OS]

As others have mentioned, the real surprise here is that they managed to ship anything.

Anonymous developer working at Microsoft:

Slavish adherence to the "rules" as a means of CYA, a desire to build kingdoms (people/hardware/process), an inability to adjust as circumstances changed, and an irrational fear of breaking "something" were the real problems with many branches in Vista.

teams constantly harped on BS "rules" as the reason why they couldn't move or make progress. "My PM tells me what bugs I can/can't work on". "I can only check into branch vvv_www_xxx_yyy_zzz - I have no idea if/when my changes will migrate up". "We need a N-week test pass before we're allowed to make a change - there's no way we could do that in any other branch".

Anonymous developer who worked in Vista UI in a small company hired by MS 2002-2004:

Microsoft wanted to avoid some of the problems that cropped up with XP and told us they were going to do Longhorn "right" this time. After years of slaving away to supposed exacting standards of UI elements, the project was pulled from us and (I assume) taken in-house. [..] Now we see the result and I can tell you it is not

What PC game is going to make me want to upgrade to DX-10? ... If there's some game that absolutely will not run on DX-9, then I'll just go without and stick to console games, as I am doing now.

Try a different company, but let them know that you are doing it. If enough people do this I am sure that they will change their mind

http://sqlservercode.blogspot.com/

You have failed to grok. Safari for Windows is a Stealth Attack on IE. Get a grip.

You probably won't see this, Mr Anonymous Coward with an honest, insightful comment, but have you tried Second Life. I've said that SL is like Barbie taken to 11. or as the http://www.lindenlifestyles.com/ ladies say in their masthead "Our Wardrobe is Better than Barbie's"

And you might my take on "virtual dolls" interesting:

http://ccslfashionista.blogspot.com/2006/10/playin g-with-dolls.html

And yes, the future addition of voice to SL has me doing some thinking. I've been playing with the voice enabled First Look build and it does surprise people when I talk, though I'm honest in my SL profile. (SL has more female players playing female avatars than other line games)

Frankly, I'm surprised this hasn't made it to a /. article yet.

Actually it is a Web Science Research Institute Workshop that is sponsored by the W3C.

And Danny has not been at W3C for some time, he is at WSRI. The difference is likely to be easier to understand after WSRI has a building, see my proposal.

I have an advantage here since I am actually in the meeting. For the reasons Declan in particular would be excluded, see my blog. Declan has a history of deliberately misrepresenting statements, in particular he was the origin of the myth that Gore claimed to have invented the Internet. We are talking about using technology to support E-Government. Many of the speakers do not have permission to speak to the press. Others such as myself do have press speaking rights, but are not speaking for our companies. The history of why we built the Web 15 years ago are not something my employer would or should share. Anyone could attend the workshop, there isn't even an entry fee. All you had to do is to register in advance, to submit a position paper and to agree that the statements made are not for attribution. This is incidentally the press terms that the IETF operates on, we do not speak for our employers at the IETF.

We're seeking to do public policy advocacy in a Googley way. Yes, we're a multinational corporation that argues for our positions before officials, legislators, and opinion leaders. At the same time, we want our users to be part of the effort, to know what we're saying and why, and to help us refine and improve our policy positions and advocacy strategies. With input and ideas from our users, we'll surely do a better job of fighting for our common interests.

Always quit while you're #1 - from TFA: "Semel ranked No. 1
on The Associated Press' survey of 2006 executive compensation
with $71.7 million (U.S.)"

Alright, that's been posted.