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Brett, maybe a bit off topic, but any feelings on OpenSuse's new EULA and all those wacky restrictions - such as no redistribution for 'compensation'?

Boycottnovell.com has one of the most constant and in depth coverage of this around the world.

In addition, Boycottnovell now has an IRC channel:

#boycottnovell at Freenode (irc.freenode.net) (www.freenode.net)
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/01/boycottnovell-at-freenode/

Can you cluck like a chicken, Sir Ballmer Who Hides From Eggs As They're Tossed? How many MS shills will post saying, "I also use Linux" like they've been doing now for years while talking shit about Linux? Fuck you shills!

Boycottnovell.com has one of the most constant and in depth coverage of this around the world.

In addition, Boycottnovell now has an IRC channel:

#boycottnovell at Freenode (irc.freenode.net) (www.freenode.net)
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/01/boycottnovell-at-freenode/

Can you cluck like a chicken, Sir Ballmer Who Hides From Eggs As They're Tossed? How many MS shills will post saying, "I also use Linux" like they've been doing now for years while talking shit about Linux? Fuck you shills!

Boycottnovell is where I keep up-to-date with Microsoft's latest anti-free, anti-open source, anti-human actions.

Don't let the name of the site fool you, they do keep a close eye on Microsoft and Novell's pact and current actions, but it's so much more than that. I'm discovering BoycottNovell.com to have fresher and better Linux news and Microsoft watching news than almost any other news site on the web, with Groklaw being one exception.

I'm counting down the day until Novell's site turns into a 100% pro-Microsoft masturbatory piece devoid of any Linux mention, just as Corel.com became after Microsoft's money went into the Corel hiney. What happened to all of the Corel software ports to Linux? Go to Corel's site now and it's one big Microsoft Windows e-penis cum fest. Where's all the Linux ports? Ha, ha! Yet again you bend over for Microsoft and you get nothing but an eggy rectum full of Ballmer and Gates smiling and steaming orc sperm. The Orc sperm will take awhile to settle deep in Novell's e-anus, but when it sets, expect the Linux offerings to dry up like an old lady's forgotten and unloved cunt.

That Microsoft is allowed to still maintain anti-open source feelings in the face of overthrowing Corel Linux with money and returning to Corel Linux as it was rebranded as XandrOS and enter into a patent agreement, sign patent agreements with other companies involved with Linux, lie about interoperability and offer nothing than a few bent pubic hairs from Satan's ballsack by the name of Moonlight ("Ever dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight? I ask that of all my friends" - The Joker, Batman The Movie), tells me lady justice in America isn't just blind, she's also a rich, money grubbing whore who wouldn't know justice if all the jailed non-violent pot smokers (who are subjected to sodomy and forced oral sex by diseased gangland pensies), surrounded her and blew smoke in her face. Just as with the O.J. Simpson trial, the "glove never fits" because it's stuffed with money for lady justice.

In the "United States of Advertising" (Bill Hicks), Microsoft's egg sucking Ballmer runs free and we all suffer for it one way or another, with Bill Gates waiting in the wings to splash himself like an enema into American politics, so like the many curious remote exploits (backdoors) in WindowsXP, their biggest backdoor is yet to come. No project is safe so long as Microsoft is around, they will always find a way to inject their devil sperm into it, while their paid off cronies pump up anti-Google hype for the unwashed mashes to digest, while they are guilty of many of the same things, such as censorship in China, but the typical person, like the DOJ, always gives Microsoft a free ride.

Microsoft in 2008 is still ever the monopoly it was when it was convicted, if not much more so, especially with its filthy cock twisting and turning in the vulva of Linux and open source, the mysterious patent list looming.

When are the people of America and the rest of the world going to get together and hold Microsoft accountable for its crimes against humanity? DO NOT SETTLE for small checks in settlements, do not allow them to continue to get away with their vicious predatory behavior. Corporations should not be above the law, but people are scattered and apathetic and allow corporations like Microsoft to continue to fuck them and rape their country of tax dollars for their proprietary mafia software and services. It is clear the majority of people will bend over and take anything, like with the Sony Rootkit audio-CD event, where yet again a corporation gets away with anything they want, with a slap on the wrist.

Microsoft is not above the law, each individual is capable of bringing change that resonates across the globe, but the big media beamed into your house has convinced you otherwise. You have the power in you to change the world, do not think otherwise. Look inside you

Boycottnovell is where I keep up-to-date with Microsoft's latest anti-free, anti-open source, anti-human actions.

Don't let the name of the site fool you, they do keep a close eye on Microsoft and Novell's pact and current actions, but it's so much more than that. I'm discovering BoycottNovell.com to have fresher and better Linux news and Microsoft watching news than almost any other news site on the web, with Groklaw being one exception.

I'm counting down the day until Novell's site turns into a 100% pro-Microsoft masturbatory piece devoid of any Linux mention, just as Corel.com became after Microsoft's money went into the Corel hiney. What happened to all of the Corel software ports to Linux? Go to Corel's site now and it's one big Microsoft Windows e-penis cum fest. Where's all the Linux ports? Ha, ha! Yet again you bend over for Microsoft and you get nothing but an eggy rectum full of Ballmer and Gates smiling and steaming orc sperm. The Orc sperm will take awhile to settle deep in Novell's e-anus, but when it sets, expect the Linux offerings to dry up like an old lady's forgotten and unloved cunt.

That Microsoft is allowed to still maintain anti-open source feelings in the face of overthrowing Corel Linux with money and returning to Corel Linux as it was rebranded as XandrOS and enter into a patent agreement, sign patent agreements with other companies involved with Linux, lie about interoperability and offer nothing than a few bent pubic hairs from Satan's ballsack by the name of Moonlight, tells me lady justice in America isn't just blind, she's also a rich, money grubbing whore who wouldn't know justice if all the jailed non-violent pot smokers surrounded her and blew smoke in her face.

In the "United States of Advertising" (Bill Hicks), Microsoft's egg sucking Ballmer runs free and we all suffer for it one way or another, with Bill Gates waiting in the wings to splash himself like an enema into American politics, so like the many curious remote exploits (backdoors) in WindowsXP, their biggest backdoor is yet to come. No project is safe so long as Microsoft is around, they will always find a way to inject their devil sperm into it, while their paid off cronies pump up anti-Google hype for the unwashed mashes to digest, while they are guilty of many of the same things, such as censorship in China, but the typical person, like the DOJ, always gives Microsoft a free ride.

Microsoft in 2008 is still ever the monopoly it was when it was convicted, if not much more so, especially with its filthy cock twisting and turning in the vulva of Linux and open source, the mysterious patent list looming.

If justice will not come to Microsoft, we must bring it ourselves.

"No More" I say to you, fat sissy boy pig Ballmer who hides from the flying eggs.

NO MORE!

Boycottnovell is where I keep up-to-date with Microsoft's latest anti-free, anti-open source, anti-human actions.

Don't let the name of the site fool you, they do keep a close eye on Microsoft and Novell's pact and current actions, but it's so much more than that. I'm discovering BoycottNovell.com to have fresher and better Linux news and Microsoft watching news than almost any other news site on the web, with Groklaw being one exception.

That Microsoft is allowed to still maintain anti-open source feelings in the face of overthrowing Corel Linux with money and returning to Corel Linux as it was rebranded as XandrOS and enter into a patent agreement, sign patent agreements with other companies involved with Linux, lie about interoperability and offer nothing than a few bent pubic hairs from Satan's ballsack by the name of Moonlight, tells me lady justice in America isn't just blind, she's also a rich, money grubbing whore who wouldn't know justice if all the jailed non-violent pot smokers surrounded her and blew smoke in her face.

In the "United States of Advertising" (Bill Hicks), Microsoft's egg sucking Ballmer runs free and we all suffer for it one way or another, with Bill Gates waiting in the wings to splash himself like an enema into American politics, so like the many curious remote exploits (backdoors) in WindowsXP, their biggest backdoor is yet to come. No project is safe so long as Microsoft is around, they will always find a way to inject their devil sperm into it, while their paid off cronies pump up anti-Google hype for the unwashed mashes to digest, while they are guilty of many of the same things, such as censorship in China, but the typical person, like the DOJ, always gives Microsoft a free ride.

Microsoft in 2008 is still ever the monopoly it was when it was convicted, if not much more so, especially with its filthy cock twisting and turning in the vulva of Linux and open source, the mysterious patent list looming.

If justice will not come to Microsoft, we must bring it ourselves.

"No More" I say to you, fat sissy boy pig Ballmer who hides from the flying eggs.

NO MORE!

Why does Mono exist? Easy. it exists to infect as many other products with Microsoft-licensed specifications and software. They can't buy 'em out, but they can patent them to death.

It is certainly a huge undertaking for Miguel and the rest of Bill's catamites to spread Microsoft-owned, Microsoft-patented technology and specifications even into orthogonal projects like Free Software and Open Source.

Why does Mono exist? Easy. it exists to infect as many other products with Microsoft-licensed specifications and software. They can't buy 'em out, but they can patent them to death.

It is certainly a huge undertaking for Miguel and the rest of Bill's catamites to spread Microsoft-owned, Microsoft-patented technology and specifications even into orthogonal projects like Free Software and Open Source.

Do you live in the United States of America? Also known as "The United States of Advertising?" (Bill Hicks)

Take the Microsoft Mafia Monopoly Challenge:

1. Walk into one or several of your local stores selling computers
2. Ask them what their computers have preloaded on them for an Operating System
3. If they reply, "Windows", inquire about other choices and note them if available (most won't have alternatives)
4. If they tell you every system is preloaded with Windows, note this and add a Windows logo flag next to the store name
5. Ask about the possibility of refunds for Windows should you purchase a preloaded Windows system and want a refund for the OS. Even if this isn't the way to go about it, ask about the refund anyway to see what they say, express your dismay at the limited choices and the forcing of Windows on desktops. A convicted monopoly should not continue to enjoy the luxury of a monopoly on the desktop
6. Compile this list and post it online somewhere visible, or coodinate your effort with others with sites like BoycottNovell.com and the like, groups of people collecting this information may wish to present it to the appropriate people in American government, to show how strong the Microsoft monopoly remains today, and how little the DOJ has leaned on Microsoft vs. other countries.

If the DOJ will do nothing further to stop Microsoft's continued monopoly in the United States, we must do something.

Microsoft is a convicted monopoly and it should not continue to enjoy the luxury of preloaded systems and mysterious OEM deals

In addition, archive/save the following articles before they disappear:

Microsoft's Dirty OEM-Secret
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/23/13219/110

Microsoft Caught Out
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/11/15/124827/52

Microsoft Exec: OEMs Must Not Install Linux Besides Windows
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/27/214930/249

Secret deals MS uses to control PC companies
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/10/secret_deals_ms_uses/

Congress: Clear the Air and Stop Preloads
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/50179/

Microsoft Getting Paid for Patents in Linux?
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=07/02/11/1443211

Microsoft: Open source is too complex
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,39380307,00.htm

Microsoft: "Drug-Dealing Methods"
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7654

Do you live in the United States of America? Also known as "The United States of Advertising?" (Bill Hicks)

Take the Microsoft Mafia Monopoly Challenge:

1. Walk into one or several of your local stores selling computers
2. Ask them what their computers have preloaded on them for an Operating System
3. If they reply, "Windows", inquire about other choices and note them if available (most won't have alternatives)
4. If they tell you every system is preloaded with Windows, note this and add a Windows logo flag next to the store name
5. Ask about the possibility of refunds for Windows should you purchase a preloaded Windows system and want a refund for the OS. Even if this isn't the way to go about it, ask about the refund anyway to see what they say, express your dismay at the limited choices and the forcing of Windows on desktops. A convicted monopoly should not continue to enjoy the luxury of a monopoly on the desktop
6. Compile this list and post it online somewhere visible, or coodinate your effort with others with sites like BoycottNovell.com and the like, groups of people collecting this information may wish to present it to the appropriate people in American government, to show how strong the Microsoft monopoly remains today, and how little the DOJ has leaned on Microsoft vs. other countries.

If the DOJ will do nothing further to stop Microsoft's continued monopoly in the United States, we must do something.

Microsoft is a convicted monopoly and it should not continue to enjoy the luxury of preloaded systems and mysterious OEM deals

In addition, archive/save the following articles before they disappear:

Microsoft's Dirty OEM-Secret
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/23/13219/110

Microsoft Caught Out
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/11/15/124827/52

Microsoft Exec: OEMs Must Not Install Linux Besides Windows
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/27/214930/249

Secret deals MS uses to control PC companies
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/10/secret_deals_ms_uses/

Congress: Clear the Air and Stop Preloads
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/50179/

Microsoft Getting Paid for Patents in Linux?
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=07/02/11/1443211

Microsoft: Open source is too complex
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,39380307,00.htm

Microsoft: "Drug-Dealing Methods"
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7654

Bookmark BoycottNovell.com and keep up-to-date with Microsoft's bloated mafia tactics across the globe.

This is just another egg in the monkey face for Microsoft, fuck their company and their rancid policies, and fuck those who buy their products in ignorance.

Did you like cowering in the face of a few eggs, Ballmer you sissy piece of shit? Fuck you and your corrupt corporation! You are a wretched human being like the oil barons.

Novell niggers dancing in the Moonlight.

have mentioned before the "stacked panel." Panel discussions naturally favor alliances of relatively weak partners -- our usual opposition. For example, an "unbiased" panel on OLE vs. OpenDoc would contain representatives of the backers of OLE (Microsoft) and the Backers of OpenDoc (Apple, IBM, Novell, WordPerfect, OMG, etc.). Thus, we find ourselves outnumbered in almost every "naturally occurring" panel debate.

A stacked panel, on the other hand, is like a stacked deck: it is packed with people who, on the face of things, should be neutral, but who are in fact strong supporters of our technology. The key to stacking a panel is being able to choose the moderator. Most conference organizers allow the moderator to select die panel, so if you can pick the moderator, you win. Since you can't expect representatives of our competitors to speak on your behalf, you have to get the moderator to agree to having only "independent ISVs" on the panel. No one from Microsoft or any other formal backer of the competing technologies would be allowed -just ISVs who have to use this stuff in the "real world." Sounds marvellously independent doesn't it? In feet, it allows us to stack the panel with ISVs that back our cause. Thus, the "independent" panel ends up telling the audience that our technology beats the others hands down. Get the press to cover this panel, and you've got a major win on your hands.

In my opinion, the only way well ever see Microsoft come clean is if the DOJ ever gets some real balls and decides to go after it with a real punishment for its monopoly, which continues today on desktops, and seeking to start on the web again with Silverblight (Silverlight), just google for LOC and the deal with Microsoft which happened within the past few months. IMO its the same as Microsoft Windows in libraries and classrooms, once you get the people hooked with something they feel that they need, in this case more Microsoft shitware, people perpetuate the lock-in cycle. Look at how you feel you *need* DirectX? This is another artificially created need by Microsoft.

It should be argued, at least for PC gaming, they have a monopoly on the desktop with gaming, as most people need to use DirectX properly in order for the games to work. Sure Wine, Cedega, and other projects are making some progress and some games may work, and believe me I try every few weeks to see how it is coming along, but again Microsoft still continues its dirty deeds. They lie about Linux and Windows interoperability, They said it couldnt be done! Novell agreement bullshit just like the Corel agreement in 2000 or 2001, where Corel Linux was promptly spun off and money/support from Corel to Wine apparantly dried up. Time and time again they come in and either buy out or pollute the environment with thier proprietary crap, and we read another dismal Microsoft article after article every few weeks or more.

If Microsoft is so devoted to bringing Linux and Windows together, I dont see anything on their vast labrynth of shit at Microsoft.com indicating this. Where is the repository of interoperability Linux and Windows software on Microsoft.com? Oh, but you can still get their bullshit Facts on Windows and Linux, and thats about it. At least Google has a repository you can add to your Linux install for software from them. In my opinion, dont think Moonlight (Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I ask that of all my friends) will last much longer or work well for Linux users should Silverblight (Silverlight) suddenly become popular through payoffs and slight of hand corporate tricks.

If you ever want to have Microsoft come clean, no, I dont believe it would ever happen unless the DOJ finally came down hard and raided their offices, took their hardware and software and forced them to release the code and all of the various undiscovered backdoors waiting to be found, it just wont happen. IMO, Microsoft has demonstrated time and time again it will fight tooth and nail against any punishment against them.

Remember: Microsoft Office raid in Hungary http://www.abcmoney.co.uk/news/262007109641.htm
You like that, monkey boy? : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/steve-ballmer-eggs/

The rich sissy boy runs for cover while the company continues to rape countries with the "Microsoft tax" and proprietary lock in. This criminal organization needs to be seen for what it is, before it continues to buy up other companies and
stifle innovation and crush competition. Already it has injected its vermin semen into the OLPC project. This is not a normal company competing, this is a criminal organization no different than a mafia and it needs to be stopped.

We will all be cleansed if true justice were ever to prevail, but in the United States of Advertising, most of the people in power are paid off, with big pharma and other corporate overlords always padding the handshakes and votes. It is a lost cause, you know it, I know it, but youll still piss away your vote to one of the two parties who bend over for big pharma to slide in the money and the overpriced medications pop out the other end as we all struggle under the yoke of this dismal fucking world.

Come clean? Microsoft? The whole system is mired in filth.

Good luck.

We now return you to your normal

Microsoft is SourceForge Awards Only Sponsor, Uses it to Spread FUD
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/microsoft-pockets-sf-net/

In my opinion, the only way well ever see Microsoft come clean is if the DOJ ever gets some real balls and decides to go after it with a real punishment for its monopoly, which continues today on desktops, and seeking to start on the web again with Silverblight (Silverlight), just google for LOC and the deal with Microsoft which happened within the past few months. IMO its the same as Microsoft Windows in libraries and classrooms, once you get the people hooked with something they feel that they need, in this case more Microsoft shitware, people perpetuate the lock-in cycle. Look at how you feel you *need* DirectX? This is another artificially created need by Microsoft.

It should be argued, at least for PC gaming, they have a monopoly on the desktop with gaming, as most people need to use DirectX properly in order for the games to work. Sure Wine, Cedega, and other projects are making some progress and some games may work, and believe me I try every few weeks to see how it is coming along, but again Microsoft still continues its dirty deeds. They lie about Linux and Windows interoperability, They said it couldnt be done! Novell agreement bullshit just like the Corel agreement in 2000 or 2001, where Corel Linux was promptly spun off and money/support from Corel to Wine apparantly dried up. Time and time again they come in and either buy out or pollute the environment with thier proprietary crap, and we read another dismal Microsoft article after article every few weeks or more.

If Microsoft is so devoted to bringing Linux and Windows together, I dont see anything on their vast labrynth of shit at Microsoft.com indicating this. Where is the repository of interoperability Linux and Windows software on Microsoft.com? Oh, but you can still get their bullshit Facts on Windows and Linux, and thats about it. At least Google has a repository you can add to your Linux install for software from them. In my opinion, dont think Moonlight (Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I ask that of all my friends) will last much longer or work well for Linux users should Silverblight (Silverlight) suddenly become popular through payoffs and slight of hand corporate tricks.

If you ever want to have Microsoft come clean, no, I dont believe it would ever happen unless the DOJ finally came down hard and raided their offices, took their hardware and software and forced them to release the code and all of the various undiscovered backdoors waiting to be found, it just wont happen. IMO, Microsoft has demonstrated time and time again it will fight tooth and nail against any punishment against them.

Remember: : Microsoft Office raid in Hungary [abcmoney.co.uk]
You like that, monkey boy? : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/steve-ballmer-eggs/ [boycottnovell.com]

We will all be cleansed if true justice were ever to prevail, but in the United States of Advertising, most of the people in power are paid off, with big pharma and other corporate overlords always padding the handshakes and votes. It is a lost cause, you know it, I know it, but youll still piss away your vote to one of the two parties who bend over for big pharma to slide in the money and the overpriced medications pop out the other end as we all struggle under the yoke of this dismal fucking world.

Come clean? Microsoft? The whole system is mired in filth.

Good luck.

We now return you to your normal life, ostrich head in the sand, millions of tokers/beer drinkers who raise their fist while watching Fight Club and return to their soap opera pitiful lives of slavery as the credits roll.

Vote for Wesley Snipes for President in 2008, neither one of the big parties will get anything done, they are a part of the problem.

Microsoft is SourceForge Awards Only Sponsor, Uses it to Spread FUD
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/microsoft-pockets-sf-net/

In my opinion, the only way well ever see Microsoft come clean is if the DOJ ever gets some real balls and decides to go after it with a real punishment for its monopoly, which continues today on desktops, and seeking to start on the web again with Silverblight (Silverlight), just google for LOC and the deal with Microsoft which happened within the past few months. IMO its the same as Microsoft Windows in libraries and classrooms, once you get the people hooked with something they feel that they need, in this case more Microsoft shitware, people perpetuate the lock-in cycle. Look at how you feel you *need* DirectX? This is another artificially created need by Microsoft.

It should be argued, at least for PC gaming, they have a monopoly on the desktop with gaming, as most people need to use DirectX properly in order for the games to work. Sure Wine, Cedega, and other projects are making some progress and some games may work, and believe me I try every few weeks to see how it is coming along, but again Microsoft still continues its dirty deeds. They lie about Linux and Windows interoperability, They said it couldnt be done! Novell agreement bullshit just like the Corel agreement in 2000 or 2001, where Corel Linux was promptly spun off and money/support from Corel to Wine apparantly dried up. Time and time again they come in and either buy out or pollute the environment with thier proprietary crap, and we read another dismal Microsoft article after article every few weeks or more.

If Microsoft is so devoted to bringing Linux and Windows together, I dont see anything on their vast labrynth of shit at Microsoft.com indicating this. Where is the repository of interoperability Linux and Windows software on Microsoft.com? Oh, but you can still get their bullshit Facts on Windows and Linux, and thats about it. At least Google has a repository you can add to your Linux install for software from them. In my opinion, dont think Moonlight (Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I ask that of all my friends) will last much longer or work well for Linux users should Silverblight (Silverlight) suddenly become popular through payoffs and slight of hand corporate tricks.

If you ever want to have Microsoft come clean, no, I dont believe it would ever happen unless the DOJ finally came down hard and raided their offices, took their hardware and software and forced them to release the code and all of the various undiscovered backdoors waiting to be found, it just wont happen. IMO, Microsoft has demonstrated time and time again it will fight tooth and nail against any punishment against them.

Remember: : Microsoft Office raid in Hungary [abcmoney.co.uk]
You like that, monkey boy? : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/steve-ballmer-eggs/ [boycottnovell.com]

We will all be cleansed if true justice were ever to prevail, but in the United States of Advertising, most of the people in power are paid off, with big pharma and other corporate overlords always padding the handshakes and votes. It is a lost cause, you know it, I know it, but youll still piss away your vote to one of the two parties who bend over for big pharma to slide in the money and the overpriced medications pop out the other end as we all struggle under the yoke of this dismal fucking world.

Come clean? Microsoft? The whole system is mired in filth.

Good luck.

We now return you to your normal life, ostrich head in the sand, millions of tokers/beer drinkers who raise their fist while watching Fight Club and return to their soap opera pitiful lives of slavery as the credits roll.

Vote for Wesley Snipes for President in 2008, neither one of the big parties will get anything done, they are a part of the problem.

In my opinion, the only way well ever see Microsoft come clean is if the DOJ ever gets some real balls and decides to go after it with a real punishment for its monopoly, which continues today on desktops, and seeking to start on the web again with Silverblight (Silverlight), just google for LOC and the deal with Microsoft which happened within the past few months. IMO its the same as Microsoft Windows in libraries and classrooms, once you get the people hooked with something they feel that they need, in this case more Microsoft shitware, people perpetuate the lock-in cycle. Look at how you feel you *need* DirectX? This is another artificially created need by Microsoft.

It should be argued, at least for PC gaming, they have a monopoly on the desktop with gaming, as most people need to use DirectX properly in order for the games to work. Sure Wine, Cedega, and other projects are making some progress and some games may work, and believe me I try every few weeks to see how it is coming along, but again Microsoft still continues its dirty deeds. They lie about Linux and Windows interoperability, They said it couldnt be done! Novell agreement bullshit just like the Corel agreement in 2000 or 2001, where Corel Linux was promptly spun off and money/support from Corel to Wine apparantly dried up. Time and time again they come in and either buy out or pollute the environment with thier proprietary crap, and we read another dismal Microsoft article after article every few weeks or more.

If Microsoft is so devoted to bringing Linux and Windows together, I dont see anything on their vast labrynth of shit at Microsoft.com indicating this. Where is the repository of interoperability Linux and Windows software on Microsoft.com? Oh, but you can still get their bullshit Facts on Windows and Linux, and thats about it. At least Google has a repository you can add to your Linux install for software from them. In my opinion, dont think Moonlight (Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I ask that of all my friends) will last much longer or work well for Linux users should Silverblight (Silverlight) suddenly become popular through payoffs and slight of hand corporate tricks.

If you ever want to have Microsoft come clean, no, I dont believe it would ever happen unless the DOJ finally came down hard and raided their offices, took their hardware and software and forced them to release the code and all of the various undiscovered backdoors waiting to be found, it just wont happen. IMO, Microsoft has demonstrated time and time again it will fight tooth and nail against any punishment against them.

Remember: : Microsoft Office raid in Hungary
You like that, monkey boy? : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/steve-ballmer-eggs/

We will all be cleansed if true justice were ever to prevail, but in the United States of Advertising, most of the people in power are paid off, with big pharma and other corporate overlords always padding the handshakes and votes. It is a lost cause, you know it, I know it, but youll still piss away your vote to one of the two parties who bend over for big pharma to slide in the money and the overpriced medications pop out the other end as we all struggle under the yoke of this dismal fucking world.

Come clean? Microsoft? The whole system is mired in filth.

Good luck.

We now return you to your normal life, ostrich head in the sand, millions of tokers/beer drinkers who raise their fist while watching Fight Club and return to their soap opera pitiful lives of slavery as the credits roll.

Vote for Wesley Snipes for President in 2008, neither one of the big parties will get anything done, they are a part of the problem.

Regarding the recent SSL bungle:

I'm not placing blame on anyone, but let us consider for a moment:

How long would it take a member of a rogue organization, a company such as Microsoft, or an intelligence agency to land a spot into such a role as a code monkey at Debian.org, under the guise of a pro-FOSS person? You do know all three examples above are quite savvy when it comes to infiltration, mafias, corporations, and intelligence agencies do this all of the time. So let us suppose this is what happened here, and considering the wide range of impact with this issue, I believe this is exactly what may have happened.

What checks and balances are in place to weed out potential moles? Any? And would you really know what to look for even if such a policy is in place? Perhaps this question is worthy of an "Ask Slashdot" submission?

How do you deal with the most sinister of rootkits: the human mole?

How many Tor hidden services (.onion) were taken down because of MITM attacks related to this issue? Fucking moles!


You can say "all the checks are in place, we know who did what" but by the time something like this happens again, if the right people are behind it, a dipshit in the dark to take the blame could easily fall without the puppet master being fingered, or an operative in the wise could simply disappear, leaving only his ghostly false identity behind and a bunch of clueless people. You can rub your rhubarb all you want about how the system works, but as this long standing SSL issues shows: you are fucking clueless. What will be the next security issue? Will you react the same way to this mole inquiry? Will you mod this post down while you mod useless replies up which don't solve the issue but only serve to shine someone's e-penis and add to their slashdot karma? You are a fucking joke!

legalize marijuana - jack herer - NORML - MPP

Quit jailing non-violent marijuana smokers/growers they don't need their hineys plundered and lives ruined by poverty and disease for enjoying nature!

If smoking marijuana makes you lazy, why are a majority of sober Americans fat and apathetic, failing to do anything useful about the land of nothing for free other than posting easily forgotten content to their worthless ego-masturbatory blogs?

But why think when you can masturbate? After all, the goverMICROSOFTnment knows how to take care of us.

The best news source I've found to keep up on Microsoft's latest bullshit is Boycott Novell:

http://www.boycottnovell.com/

It may say Novell in the title, but it's so much more. With all of the interesting news links Roy has been putting up in the last few weeks, it's beginning to look more important and better updated than most Linux news sites, and it doesn't look as horrible like a lot of the Linux news sites appear. I read Groklaw every day, and BoycottNovell comes in an easy second for the amount of information it packs.

The article asks:

But when did promoting Linux become one of the OLPC's goals?

This is the wrong question to ask, so it's not surprising that people are a little confused about the answer. This is part of the problem of Open/Free/Linux linguistic ambiguity but it's constantly feed on by people like OLPCNews, an organization run by Intel employees who are working on another project. Eventually, the question is answered:

These are the ones who believe that open source software in general is critical to the mission of education, and that closed source software, especially that of a convicted monopolist corporation like Microsoft, is not only undesirable, but detrimental to that mission. ... A less inflammatory term would be preferable, though -- say, "people uncompromisingly committed to the empowerment of educators and students through the freedom which open-source software provides."

It's a little easier to say that secrets and education don't mix. Sharing is good and that children should not be taught the lessons of non free software in an educational setting - that ideas are things to be owned for personal advantage over people kept ignorant by intention.

It's also easy to see that Microsoft and their friends at Intel want nothing more than to kill OLPC. They would like to see OLPC go the way of DRDOS, BeOS, OS/2, SCO Unix and so on and so forth. They have consistently derided the whole concept and stooped to dirty tricks to block sales and use. Evangelism is still war to them. Anything they can do to delay the project is good for them, so they will be ready to provide all sorts of help and direction about how to make XP run on the thing and promise to stop hurting the project but it will all be a lie. OLPC will be fine for them when it's One MicroSoft Laptop Per Child and Sugar is broken and forgotten.

We can further be sure that everyone at OLPC knows all of the above and that the whole issue is just so much FUD and nonsense. OLPC is too busy getting their device to kids to fool with this kind of BS.

...Y'know, we're a Linux company, we do identity management, but we're a Linux company. Identity management, there's so much happening there to open source alot of the APIs, which we've already done, the only thing we haven't open-sourced in the identity world is kinda our directory, and I can tell you what, we probably won't, because again - the same reason alot of proprietary vendors wont take their big software and unwrap it, like I've always said- if you unwrap this baby its ugly, people will run away, ok, there's certain proprietary software that you never want anyone to look at...

The Gates Foundation has made a number of suspicious purchases that look like more of the same M$ business under a different name. Mr. Gates interest in medicine is particularly disturbing, because the general formula of getting Governments and regulated industry to buy things by the kind of tactics we see at the ISO have already been bad for your health. Inefficiency in records keeping is one thing, profiteering off medicine via government intrusion, patents and so on and so forth is quite another. Big pharmacy companies have learned a lot from Mr. Gates. The only way to make it worse is to have Mr. Gates and friends at the Carlyle group really be in charge.

One could say we in the free software business are our own enemies. We shoot ourselves in the feet all the time. Imagine...after all this time, with the [free] availability of specs of every kind, there is no decent ODF application beyond OpenOffice.org...which at version 2.4, still sucks bigtime by the way! Do not think I blindly support KDE because KDE's KOffice is a joke!

By the way, some author outlines ways for that other environment to improve.

As with anything patent- and MS-related, your guess is as good as mine as to implementability...

Here.

Eat it trolls, I enjoy ignoring your posts to take advantage of your first post bravado. Keep pushing buttons for me, it has not done your bosses anygood. Discussion 2 rocks.

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My wife believes in Astrology in until strange phonomena like the Mars effect are not explained I don't think I can criticize her.

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Public Letters Protesting Against Department of Justice Decisions - 12/2007

Also -

Archive this as it's vanishing from the web quickly:

Microsoft has performed an illegal function and should be shut down.

By Ralph Nader

AS THE TITANIC antitrust case against Microsoft moves into its endgame, the question of the hour is what remedies will be effective in taming this wealthy and ruthless monopoly.

The goal of any set of remedies should be to ensure that there will, in fact, be innovation, competition, and reasonable prices in some of the most important sectors of our economy: software, computers, and telecommunications.

Here are some suggestions:

- Free PC manufacturers from Microsofts grip. Microsoft has used its monopoly power to bully original equipment manufacturers into installing only Windows on computers. A court-ordered remedy of nondiscriminatory OEM licensing of Windows would go a long way toward solving this problem. Pricing and licensing should be transparent, openly published, and evenhandedly applied.

- Dont let Microsoft use its other software monopolies to limit competition. Just as Microsoft used its Windows monopoly to threaten the competition, so it is using its Office franchise to scare off competitors and dominate new Internet markets. Its preferred strategy is the notorious embrace, extend, and extinguish gambit: embrace the new Internet authoring tools as part of the dominant Office software suite; extend control of the new market by introducing proprietary standards that are incompatible with competitors; extinguish competing software through manipulative licensing and bundling deals with OEMs. The court should require Microsoft to separate Microsoft Office from Windows, and the new owner of Office should be required to port the entire platform to multiple non-Windows operating systems.

- Ensure that Internet navigation options remain open. Microsoft has insisted to OEMs that it retain control of the first screen, or default choices for Internet navigation menus. It has done so to retain control over the time and attention of computer users, whose reliance on the default first screen can be used to channel them to certain e-commerce sites. Heres the danger: if any single firm exercises too much control over Internet navigation, competition in e-commerce markets will suffer. Microsoft should be prohibited from imposing such terms.

- Protect interoperability of hardware, software, and network protocols. The usefulness of software programs depends on their ability to work (and coexist) with other software programs, with hardware systems, and with the protocols of telecommunications networks. It should come as no surprise that Microsoft frequently and deliberately introduces barriers to compatibility and interoperability, preventing competitors from working with Microsofts monopolizing Windows or Office products. One remedy is to force Microsoft to support open standards for software and to provide extensive technical information in a timely manner and in usable formats and protocols to any company that requests it.

- Adopt structural remedies, because the past six years of antitrust problems with Microsoft have demonstrated that the company cannot be trusted. Its conduct during the trial itself offers the best evidence of this point. The company subverted the intent if not the language of a 1995 consent order, by integrating its browser into the Windows operating system. Effective remedies should, as much as possible, avoid conduct remedies that require continuing court oversight.

Ideally, a breakup of the company would go further than the Justice Department proposal to divide the operating system line of business from the application and other lines of business. The court could insist that Microsoft separate the Internet Explorer browser from Microsoft Office. That way, the browser market could become competitive again and

Read all about how Mono dependancies sneak into Novel and even Ubuntu:

http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/15/mono-contamination-in-ubuntu/

There are many choices in oss but Novel is sticking to their agenda and always prefer the Mono-based solution. That is better than free because it promotes MS agenda and makes Novel have *some* profits at least.

Thanks for the feedback; I can live with being an immature moron. On second thoughts, however, Perhaps I'll just throw up a DHTML warning dialog with a link to this or something similar.

First Hula, then Zimbra!

http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/01/groupware-snatch-protocol/

Fork before it's too late!

Sun will bankrupt. Right after Novel:

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/09/09/mono-patent-novell/

Latest example:

"Midvale, Utah-based Burton Group said that the report was neither commissioned nor paid for by Microsoft. However, Burton analyst Peter O'Kelly, one of the report's co-authors, is scheduled to make a presentation at an Open XML press briefing that Microsoft plans to hold in the Seattle area on Wednesday. Also speaking will be multiple Microsoft executives involved in the Open XML standards-ratification effort."

More examples here

I wouldn't worry about tacitly supporting Microsoft via Novell either. Now that innovators like Asus and Nokia have shown the way, I suspect the day of the big generic desktop Linux is over, and manufacturers will shrink-fit versions of Linux onto their own hardware.

It will be interesting to see how the story of the Eee pans out, since it runs Xandros and they too have a "Novell style" deal. There's some concern here too.

(Personally, I like the fact it has some promise to be more WMA-compatible than my current, buggy, mp3 player - and if it's not, there might be I can do something about it)

Moreover, clear or not, it's been repeatedly tested in court, in lots of interesting ways. Take a look at http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/23/gpl-court-test/ for references, and a Google search reveals far more links with good citations.

I understand that there is "telling it like it is" and not pulling any punches, but if you've read http://boycottnovell.com/ for more than a day you might start to think that Roy Schestowitz is a little bit paranoid... there are several people in the open source world that have openly argued with him on his blog, because he has made baseless accusations without factual evidence.

See http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/ for an example of this... Jeff Waugh (of the GNOME foundation) is one example of someone who has argued with him

I understand that there is "telling it like it is" and not pulling any punches, but if you've read http://boycottnovell.com/ for more than a day you might start to think that Roy Schestowitz is a little bit paranoid... there are several people in the open source world that have openly argued with him on his blog, because he has made baseless accusations without factual evidence.

See http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/ for an example of this... Jeff Waugh (of the GNOME foundation) is one example of someone who has argued with him

Novell will pay Microsoft based on how many sales of SUSE Linux they make (for software patents). Please stay away from Novell products if you care about Free software. Thank you.

Slashdot is slow. I read this on Digg eleven days ago. Roy Schestowitz, the anti-Microsoft FUDmaster-in-Chief on Digg claimed that "the funding for a project run by the OpenDocument Foundation ended some time ago after very aggressive lobbying and bullying in Massachusetts. Microsoft had people thrown out of their job for 'daring' to stick to ODF. ... After the funding ended, the OpenDocument Foundation was glued to a corner, so the wise step to take was to turn somewhere else."

You can read more of Schestowitz' rants at Boycott Novell

Ya, because actually addressing the comments brought up by the ISO and resolving them is Evil!!! It may actually get approved! And who needs more than ONE standard?

Right, because a non-MS employee has seen the source code, and MS actively HELPING Mono so that they can sue them later.
I can only imagine the hysteria here when .Net 3.5 comes with the source code.. I guess its not just MS that likes to FUD..

Yogi Berra once said 'it's too coincidental to be a coincidence', and this story just gets more coincidental - first Ballmer presciently insinuates that patent suits will be headed to open source, then a company that has some recent ties to MS goes and files suit against Red Hat and Novell (lotta good that MS deal did Novell, huh).
It gets even more coincidental, as Novell just announced they have updated their indemnity program - and the weirdest part is, Microsoft will extend their patent covenant to GPLv3 according to Novell.
What does it all mean?

Well, it appears that Novell has just recently updated their Technology Assurance Program (indemnification), and the most interesting part - Microsoft will extend their patent covenant to GPLv3.

t appears that a company known as IP Innovation LLC is now filing suit against Red Hat and Novell, regarding a patent for "a User Interface with Multiple Workspaces for Sharing Display System Objects".

Stafford Masie at CITI last year...
...Y'know, we're a Linux company, we do identity management, but we're a Linux company. Identity management, there's so much happening there to open source alot of the APIs, which we've already done, the only thing we haven't open-sourced in the identity world is kinda our directory, and I can tell you what, we probably won't, because again - the same reason alot of proprietary vendors wont take their big software and unwrap it, like I've always said- if you unwrap this baby its ugly, people will run away, ok, there's certain proprietary software that you never want anyone to look at...

So, ComputerWorld is now just repeating Novell's PR pitch like a parrot? Novell's business did NOT benefit from the deal.

How many of you recognize right now that MSLinux (Ok Novell) is going to be the only company legally able to distribute moonlight? Why did the firehose skip this story thrice yet they promote these lame "criticism" stories against truly free and MS free Linux distros?

further info

Well, impress us with all the obscure legal terms you want; this article points out Caldera/SCO's quote way back when: "...people were concerned then that Caldera was trying to take Linux proprietary. And they couldn't be more wrong. Because we never had an intention. Never have. Never will."

I still say: Promises, schomises. Let's kill off Novell right now, then we'll be damned sure that they won't be any trouble. Welcome to 2007; after 15 years of being under constant attack, the Linux community is figuring out how to cover its ass. Duh!

Ummm, then what was Sontag talking about in this deposition?

Well, the problem is that only 10% of those unvalidated, potentially infringing patents were owned by Microsoft in that study, or about 30. Also, if they are quoting the OSRM study, where then does MS get there statistics for email, GUI, etc?

hmmm. the guys from boycottnovell.com have a live cd for schools, now opensuse community (not liking the boycottnovell guys) add an educational aspect to their distro and blow edu-nix.org away...
such is politics in the community

1. Can I do it with Linux today (GPL2) and tomorrow (GPL3)?

dynamic linking is too much to bear

4. Could I be forced to publish this code by some 3-d party?

5. Am I correct that programming in and selling BSD-based boxes won't raise any of the above problems?

It's worth noting 3.4:

  3.4 No Acknowledgement of Infringement. Nothing in this Agreement shall imply, or be construed as an admission or acknowledgement by a Party, that any Patents of the other Party are infringed, valid or enforceable.

Which will hopefully finally put an end to all the nonsense conspiracy theories that "Novell admitted that Linux infringes patents" etc., even though Novell have constantly re-iterated that such a claim was ridiculous. As I've said several times before, blaming Novell for Microsoft's recent claims is just completely unfounded, and in fact there's nothing new or particularly recent about it; Microsoft have always been flooding the market with falsities about Linux's infringement on their patents.
 
Hopefully the published results will provide the community with a general better understanding of the deal, so that at least if they disagree/hate it, they do it for real reasons (which seems to be rare).