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Yes. Good guess. As reported by Wisconsin News3 (CBS).

http://www.channel3000.com/new...

With regards to your question... the federal government does not mandate automobile insurance for drivers on the interstates. The federal government mandates compliance with state laws on the interstates, and not all states require automobile insurance (just proof of assets equal to state liability minimums, such as Wisconsin.)

Ah, you mean because of this?

Well, I have bad news for you. The laws changed last year. The current information provided by the state government reflects that. More details on page 4 of this PDF.

Those are hits 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 of googling "wisconsin auto insurance laws" (without quotes).

Are you often caught arguing without the facts?

Not really. Are you? Mmmmhhhhmmmm....

Buddy, you've linked an article in NEW ZEALAND while the story is in the US. In the US you do not get 3 years for manslaughter. 1st degree murder or even felony murder gets you life or death penalty. Per linked article, the guy would have received 10 years to life in US.

Here's a case in the US from a few years ago, where a similar crime resulted in a 1 year jail sentence:

http://www.channel3000.com/news/20400719/detail.html

I'm not sure I would consider the KKK or Nazis to be far left. I guess we all have our own views, though.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/381962/detail.html

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/strwhe.html

+1, Insightful

here's the news article about the 16 yr old's death and 1.9 million dollar settlement. Money goes to the baby, so now the grandparents and boy's father are fighting over the child. For once no one is thinking of the children.

washington times = a list of individuals often labeled "right wing" (white supremacist), when chances are, they aren't "right wing" by any other definition than lumping bigots into that group. Except when bigotry is on the left (Black Panther, Nation of Islam etc) it is excused or marginalized where no such thing is afforded to the "right".

Gawker is just a repeat of the big "three" individual offenders listed in the WT article. If that is all the left has... that is pretty sad.

Daily Kos is nothing more than "faux news" for the left.

MN Publius article is interesting in that it simply ignores that violence against (R) offices. Again, for every alleged infraction of the "right" I can easily point to one from the left.

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/3776992/detail.html

not to mention all the "Fake" hate crimes that never happened ..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/516936/posts

http://www.nationalreview.com/phi-beta-cons/39720/godmother-fake-hate-crimes

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/partial-list-of-fake-hate-crimes-2006-2007

Or the nice young man who was just guarding the polls

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/06/video-the-nice-young-man-eric-holder-left-off-the-hook/

Yeah, you can repeat the three "massive hate crimes" by large groups (meaning idividuals) of angry Right Wing Extremists (Lone Fringe kooks), but that is all you got.

cheap free energy vs pretty pictures of wind on weather.com

Well tornado warnings can, in fact, save lives.

government is EXTREMELY good at rooting out grass-roots armed resistance.

Yea, the government is so good at stopping armed resistance they stopped the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing, and 911. Except they didn't. Not even the NAZIs with the Gestapo and SS could stop everyone. Heck they couldn't even stop the resistance in Berlin. And with today's communications technologies there's no way the government could shutdown communications.

"the people of the US" in this sense is a misnomer. They wouldn't be out shooting Jane Soccer Mom... it would start with that crazy hippie who screams about freedom and those hackers who must have been up to no good

Except it could be Soccer Mom who's in the underground. "Hitler Ordered Death Of Wisconsin Woman Who Led Nazi Resistance". And Theodore Kaczynski, the supposed Unabomber, was no hippy. Neither was Timothy McVeigh.

If they showed up on the steps of the capitol with weapons, what do you think would happen?

And do you really think resisters would show up on the steps of the capital with arms?

You simply don't have a pissed off band of civilians having ANY success against a large group of trained combatants with specialized crowd dispersal devices COMBINED with tactical weapons advantages.

Like other responders, I seriously doubt you've ever served in the US military.

Falcon

Here's a link to the news story http://www.channel3000.com/news/14916807/detail.html

Aren't they?

2 Held in Curbside Sales of Automatic Weapons
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE7DC1F39F931A35757C0A965958260

Police Seize Mach 11 Machine Pistol From Teen (with silencer!)
http://www.channel3000.com/news/4607540/detail.html

Middletown Police Confiscate Machine Guns, Grenade Launchers
http://www.wtic.com/pages/1083618.php?
"Police obtained a search warrant and say they found automatic and semiautomatic weapons, grenades, bulletproof vests, swords, cross bows and bomb-making instructions."

These are just a few of the results from the first page of a quick googling of police confiscate automatic weapons machine pistols

Yup, evil old big pharma!

If the shoe fits...

Hmmm... interesting politically moral question.

Do we do what's right with regards to justice?

Or do we do what's right with regards to (legal) policy?

I would side with the judge and say this law should include IM's and any electronic communication, VoIP, blogs (MySpace), etc. However, this does leave open the attack for a different case, where it's not as obvious or the crime is not as heinous, to be exploited in the same regards... think RIAA.

I think this is a situation where one has to weight the seriousness of the crime against the importance of the law.

This makes me think of the case in Wisconsin where 2 guys saw a picture in the newspaper of a 21 year old girl who recently died in an accident. They thought she looked pretty so they went and bought some condoms and dug up her grave. They where caught at the cemetery, before anything could come about, but since there were no laws on the book, they couldn't stick any charges to these guys.

This is a situation, again, where the law should be capable of proper punishment of these people and not just some petty crime because 'there was nothing on the books specifically'. In a perfect world, we would all agree and we wouldn't need written laws because we could just file things case by case, but that's just not realistic.

Cheers,
Fozzy

Same principle as the boneheads who bitched about outlawing smoking in bars and then discovered that the young people and bar crowd still goes out but now so do the non smokers. Go figure.

Democrats were only accused of doing this by the Republicans and only laptops (the easiest and most valuable hardware to steal) were taken, quickly from an office where they were plainly visible from the street.

Engaging in vandalism against Bush offices by teenagers is not quite as bad as tearing up valid registrations.

Criminally negligent op-ed pieces do not facts make.

Accusing a group of committing illegal activities with no evidence is a typical Republican tactic.

Press releases aimed at creating a non-existant scandal and failing are pretty weak as a source.

Finally, defrauding a company by making up fake voter registrations to earn more money in a $9 per hour job is not making people think they are registered when they are not.

Take off your DNC-issue blinders, and maybe you'll see that both sides engage in all sorts of nefarious activities to make sure their side wins. Nothing to see here, move along.

Liberal activists are not exactly known for being the militant types (just ask any Republican)

Except for when they shoot up Republican campaign offices and burn swastikas in Republicans' yards...

No, it isn't if you don't apply it in a literal sense, such as if you disregard the entire concept of methaphor or simile. The loss of "potential revenue" by a company due to the activities of another company can be addressed in court, and repayment can ordered. That is a literal concept. If there is a way to represent the idea of "future losses" for the community that can be encapsulated in a single word, it is theft. A more accurate phrasing would be that when a person or company takes something from the community, without giving back to the community, that act is like theft. The word "like", makes this a simile. You may not consider it perfect for the role, but you haven't introduced a helpful substitute.

You're mincing words and trying to mislead people in the process.

Not my intention at all. You take things too literally. I'm trying to clarify as much as my poor abilities will allow. If you'd like to give it a shot, you're welcome to it.

First off, I can vouch for my grandparent poster's ability with the English laguage and I believe he knows what he is talking about and is right on the money.

I'm glad you have an opinion on the matter. It wouldn't be much of a discussion without one.

We do not discuss metaphoric losses in the world of software

Maybe you don't, but others do. The world isn't simply black and white as I'll show you later in the post. As an aside, people who believe that the world is black and white can be a danger to themselves and those around them as they take things too literally. The GPL clearly isn't for everyone, as the number of BSD supporting posts show in this article. However, I haven't read anything of evidence to indicate that the GPL would inhibit or hinder the growth of software, or take away code from the community as a whole. Hence, my position on it. I recognize that at a point in time, the BSD provided a useful mechanism for licensing Open Source software. That was until an improved license came along. The "improvement" is controversial to some, but an objective market will decide which is the better. My bet is that more people favor an implementation of the Golden Rule such as the GPL, than disapprove of it.

time is not something that is owned and can be robbed from someone.

The world isn't black and white, and someone stating such a broad assertion deserves instruction. To put it literally, you're absolutely wrong. On the other hand, my point regarding the BSD license and theft are not literal. It is merely illustrative of a subtle and important concept. Apparently, too subtle for some.

Figures of speech work well to denote ideas in the figurative sense

And, what is wrong with symbolic representation? It is our ability to symbolize that allows us to code.

but confusing them with literal ideas only serves to show that you don't know how to properly present the thought.

Or, that you don't understand that thoughts have meaning other than in the literal. That would indicate a lower level of self education, or someone who doesn't wish to understand past what he sees. Hence, taking things literally where literal thinking doesn't apply. I recommend a regimen of philosophical readings into abstract thought.

INFRINGEMENT which is what you are confusing for THEFT.

No. Infringement is simply some violation of an agreement, and can at times even be inappropriately used as a longer version of the same word, theft. What I'm stating is theft as a simile, not as a literal act. Theft as a simile is as real as a description of what something is like. Theft in a literal sense would not be tolerated and would become a legal

This reminds me of the Bigfoot hoax here in Canada. The guy who started it all, finally on his Deathbed told everyone how he started it. When will people realize, that a bunch of blurry pictures don't constitute proof. I'll wait for DNA tests on a live creature.

Stay at the Don Q Inn.

Visit the astonishing Dickeyville Grotto.

Escape from the Harry Houdini Historical Center.

Learn the correct pronounciation of "calliope" at the original winter quarters of the Ringling Bros. Circus, Circus World Museum in Baraboo.

Get arrested trespassing on the antennae that communicate wth nuclear submarines while under water at Project ELF.

Hijack the Wienermobile!

Read Wisconsin Death Trip.

Explore the giant animal lover in you at Schettl's Freight Sales.

See a genuine MIR and other crap.

Finally, no visit would be complete without some scrounging at Delaney's Surplus which seems to have burned (oh no!) and a tour of the transcendental Forevertron.

Waiting to see the Blow-up doll hall of fame. People are even stealing blow up dolls-

From that article- long black sideburns and a black leather coat.

Hey that sounds like Elvis stole the blow up dolls :)