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Re:signed executables? NO, Use Proof Carrying Code
Proof Carrying Code is a much better solution than signed binaries. Signed binaries still require you to trust the developer, which is many cases is still not a good idea. See here for more information:
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Read MoravecHans Moravec, the well-known mobile robotics researcher, has been writing on this subject for years. Joy's technology predictions are comparable to Moravec's, but Joy is less optimistic. If you're at all interested in this, read Moravec's papers and books.
A useful question to ask is "what new product will really make it clear to everyone that this is going to happen soon". Let me suggest a few possibilities from the computer/robotics side.
- Automatic driving that works better than human driving.
- Automated phone systems indistinguishable from human operators. (try 1-800-WILDFIRE, a first cut at this)
- The first self-replicating machine.
Trouble is more likely to come from genetic engineering than from computers and robotics. Robotic self-replication is really hard to do, and we're nowhere near doing it. But biological self-replication works just fine.
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Coda File System
On a similar note, the Coda network filesystem offers a "disconnected" mode on the client, in which changes can later be "reintegrated" with the server. See http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/.
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What's improved in the thread libraries?> a much more complete threads library
What exactly does this mean? Does FreeBSD have actual kernel support for userland threads now?
For example, can I write a multithreaded application and have the whole thing not block when one thread blocks on IO? I'd love that; it's what's keeping me from getting NASD running on FreeBSD now.
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The key to UNIX's longevity is its flexibility
The era of minicomputers may be fading away, but the power of UNIX is hardly limited to that platform. The development of Mach at Carnegie Mellon University brought forth the idea of a device-independent UNIX that can run on any platform. UNIX runs just as well on the desktop as it does on the mainframe.
There's a bright future for UNIX. It continues to be the OS champion for web, file, application, and database servers, whose importance in the era of networked appliances will only increase. Given the current efforts to port UNIX to the PDA and the set-top box, how can you say it's about to die?
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Re:The real danger is more subtleThat changes if at some point for about $100,000 you can buy a general purpose machine that is about equal to a person.
This chart suggests that will happen around 2020 for AIs costing $1000:
http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~ hpm/book98/fig.ch3/p060.html
so it will probably happen about 2015 for AIs costing 100X as much.Hopefully laws and taxation could address the problem you raise for a while. But I agree, this is something to be very concerned about.
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Re:User Authentication or Roaming Profiles
Sendmail 8.10 Supports SMTP Authentication; it'l interoperate with Outlook Express, Netscape, Eudora etc. To avoid reinventing the wheel, it uses the cyrus SASL Library to supply the authentication funnctions. See ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus-mail for the current libraries. To install sendmail with Authentication, look for sasl in the src/README file in the distribution.
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suggestions and linksThe first thing to realize is that this is a lot harder in practice than it seems like it ought to be. So, don't be too frustrated: everybody is struggling with this, and if you managed to build a high-volume dynamic site by yourself, that's already a big achievement.
The best way of dealing with complexity is to simplify and limit features to the essentials. JavaScript, graphics, fancy layout, etc. all can present an bottomless hole for time and bandwidth.
Another thing to realize is that the relational database you are using is probably one of your biggest bottlenecks. Relational databases are slow. MySQL is actually one of the faster ones, but that's because it doesn't make a lot of the guarantees or provide a lot of the features that a "real" relational database provides. You can get a lot of performance from your relational database by tuning it, but ultimately, the architecture and functionality itself present a limit. If speed is of the essence, consider using dbm, plain files, or memory mapped files (Apache has several "databases" internally, and that's its approach.)
For a single person project, Java is probably not the best implementation language. It really shines for multiprogrammer projects. You may find that Python, PHP, or Ruby are better choices. Perl and Tcl are also widely used, but they are also the oldest of the scripting languages and have a lot of rough edges and clunkiness. The performance of all of them is excellent when used as server plug-ins. Perl and PHP have by far the largest libraries and toolsets.
Some of the packages I haven't used but that look interesting are the following. Enhydra takes a much better approach to dynamic HTML than most other packages, I think. Erlang / Eddie address scalability, reliability, and clustering in a really clean way (but you have to learn a new language). Zope I think has a lot of good ideas, but I'm not sure I'd use it for a large server.
Most load balancing solutions use some kind of network routing hacks. That's efficient, but can be a pain to configure. However, there is now a load balancing module for Apache that works as a proxy; that's probably also worth looking into.
The Coda file system is a free, next-generation AFS; while I'm not sure Coda is mature enough yet to be used in heavy-duty applications, systems like it help with scalability by replicating files automatically and have been used on some really large web sites.
I would stay away from commercial "application server platforms". They often are mostly repackaged open source software, and they are expensive and complex, and while they claim to be general, they are also usually created with fairly specific commercial applications in mind ("shopping cart", etc.). I think those kinds of packages are worthwhile for corporate developers that work with large teams of programmers and need consistency, documentation, training, and support.
So, to recap, this kind of stuff is still a lot of work and it seems like you are ahead actually. But there are a lot of proven open source tools available that have been used on really big projects. There are also a lot of open source developments coming around that may make this kind of project a easier.
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Re:Oh. You wanna *start* w/an OS?
I would agree that OS at CMU is a killer course. However, I do think that it is incredibly beneficial to have completed the projects that are in the course: a simple shell, a tty driver (that uses mutual exclusion to make sure multiple writes / reads are not interleaved), a simple kernel (context switching, virtual memory mapping, IPC, semaphores, fork, exec, etc), and a simple file system.
I do think that any CS major who has a chance to take such a course should take it. It provides you with an amazing amount of experience for one semester.
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They may be more than symlinks, but...
they are still just a single way of doing things. Just because they are not _precisely_ symlinks, and are actually a bit closer to hard links, does not mean it is superior. We want concise clear tools (UNIX mantra) that do each of their little jobs well. If something needs a bigger system we want the points of functionality well reflected and refined in the interface. UNIX has symlinks and hardlinks which are nice, but it also has options requiring more infrastructure as well that blows this M$ option away.
There are many systems in the blurry area between object and page based DSMs and distributed filesystems, but the one that jumps to mind is CODA. Just read about it and then try to defend M$'s great new enhancement to symlinks. -
Re:I know I sound like an asshole...
There is a dorm at Carnegie Mellon named Morewood.
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Re:state of the culture
Some examples, perhaps, of what Brin may have been referring to are Elton John, Prince, Richard Branson, Judge Judy, Howard Stern, Ross Perot, the entire cast of the World Wrestling Federation, and anyone who's ever been on the Jerry Springer show.
Do we really want to mention these people in the same context as Bruno and Franklin? Ok, maybe I could accept Elton John and the Artist Formerly Known As, as possibly having some artistic merit. But the WWF? Jerry Springer?While you might be eccentric, you probably aren't all that spectacularly flamboyant. Compare yourself to Emperor Norton Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico.
Hey, I would never dare to compare myself with the one and only begotten son of Eris Discordia:We asked Goddess if She, like God, had an Only Begotten Son. She assured us that She did and gave His name as Emperor Norton I - whom we assumed was probably some Byzantine ruler of Canstantinople. Dilligent research eventually turned up the historical Norton, as we call Him, in the holy city of San Francisco - where He walked his faithful dog along Market Street scarcely more than a century ago.
I want to make up a bunch of bumper stickers and tee-shirts reading "What Would Emperor Norton Do?"Gregory Hill has since become the world's foremost authority on Joshua A. Norton who, on September 17th of 1859, crowned Himself the Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico. Just before then, He vanished for a number of days - perhaps into the wilderness where maybe He was tempted by the Devil, probably to organize His life and get His affairs in order.
Certainly they looked like that's what they needed. For on the day before his disappearance Norton, heretofore little more than a successful businessman, cornered the rice market - only to be foiled by the unscheduled arrival of a whole shipload of rice from the Orient. A lesser man would have been thrown out of step by that event which for Him became a step to the throne.
When the U.S. Congress failed to obey His Majesty's Royal Order to assemble in the San Francisco Opera House, Norton fired every last member of that rebellious organization. Thus, the people of San Francisco knew better than to incute His Imperial wrath. His Royal Decrees were printed free of charge in the newspapers, the currency He issued was accepted in the saloons, local shopkeepers paid the modest taxes He occasionally demanded and on at least one occasion a tailor furnished Him with a new set of Royal finery.
Although a madman, Norton wrote letters to Abraham Lincoln and Queen Victoria which they took seriously.
One night a gang of vigilantes gathered for a pogrom against San Francisco's Chinatown. All that stood in their way was the solitary figure of Norton. A sane man would not have been there in the first place. A rational man would have tried to reason with them. A moralist would have scolded them. A man as daft as Norton usually seemd would have loudly ordered them to cease and desist in the name of His Royal Imperial authority. All such tacks would probably have been futile, and Norton resorted to none of them.
He simply bowed His head in silent prayer.
The vigilantes dispersed.
Discordians believe everybody should live like Norton.
"born-again" Christians...
Yep. Gore's been a little more subtle about it, but I saw an interview where he was directly asked if he was "born-again" and answered affirmatively. And Bush stated "When you turn your heart and your life over to Christ, when you accept Christ as the Savior, it changes your heart. It changes your life. And that's what happened to me." (Or, as Maureen Dowd put it: "Translation: You're either in the Christ club or out of it, on the J.C. team or off. This is the same exclusionary attitude, so offensive to those with different beliefs, that he showed in 1993 when he said that you must believe in Jesus Christ to enter heaven. (Mr. Bush has since conceded that only 'God decides who goes to heaven, not George W. Bush.')")I did not know of this. Are you referring to Bush and Gore?
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Similar studies...
Some people at Carnegie Mellon University are also investigating the social consequences of net usage ( check out the HomeNet project here). They have also concluded that Internet usage leads to less interpersonal physical contact. They also observed that interpersonal communication is a stronger driver for internet usage than than entertainment or information searching.
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At Carnegie Mellon...
Here at Carnegie Mellon, the number of female CS majors has actually been increasing in recent years. As mentioned in a related Slashdot article from last August, this year's freshman class is about 37% women, up from 8% in 1995. However, Carnegie Mellon's increasing numbers may be due to more aggressive recruiting.
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CMU: Andrew Linux
Thought people might like to know this. Carnegie Mellon University has its own Linux distribution called Andrew Linux. We originally started out with RH 4.2 but have gradually made changes such that it no longer resembles it. The distro has provision for necessary CMU like Kerberos, AFS, etc built it.
Guess each college will make modifications to tailor Linux to its own needs. A common distro might just be unusable as each college has its own needs and probably a setup unique to itself. -
CMU: Andrew Linux
Thought people might like to know this. Carnegie Mellon University has its own Linux distribution called Andrew Linux. We originally started out with RH 4.2 but have gradually made changes such that it no longer resembles it. The distro has provision for necessary CMU like Kerberos, AFS, etc built it.
Guess each college will make modifications to tailor Linux to its own needs. A common distro might just be unusable as each college has its own needs and probably a setup unique to itself. -
AFS (Do you mean the Andrew File System?)
I've heard muted rumblings that DE.. ooops, Compaq is thinking about porting AFS (which, by the way, is killer) to Linux as well.
Are you talking about the Andrew File System?
If you are it's not from Compaq it's from Transarc (now owned by IBM) and was originally developed by Carngie Mellon University. There's already a beta of AFS for Linux and there should be an official version "real soon now". There's also a free AFS client implementation called Arla.
Also, AFS is a different sort of beast. It's a distributed filesystem (dfs). CMU's latest dfs -- CODA -- is based on AFS2 and a linux port is available.
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AFS (Do you mean the Andrew File System?)
I've heard muted rumblings that DE.. ooops, Compaq is thinking about porting AFS (which, by the way, is killer) to Linux as well.
Are you talking about the Andrew File System?
If you are it's not from Compaq it's from Transarc (now owned by IBM) and was originally developed by Carngie Mellon University. There's already a beta of AFS for Linux and there should be an official version "real soon now". There's also a free AFS client implementation called Arla.
Also, AFS is a different sort of beast. It's a distributed filesystem (dfs). CMU's latest dfs -- CODA -- is based on AFS2 and a linux port is available.
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Re:I can see it now...At this point I was laughing too hard to continue...
Me too.
:-)It's just possible that that online Eliza is a little broken - maybe badly configured by its Slovenian keepers. I'd recommend d ownloading a real version and hacking the conversation database yourself. That's where the real fun starts.
Regards, Ralph.
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Re:I can see it now...Very funny - I'd up-moderate you if I could. The wierdest thing is I dug up a copy of Eliza to show someone only yesterday.
There's an online version here for lazy people who want to get a taste of Eliza's conversational "syle". For sources and other resources on Weizenbaum's 1966 classic it's better to look h ere.
Regards, Ralph.
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Re:WaveLan, BreezecomSpeaking of CMU, the wireless deployment at CMU is documented at http://www.cmu.edu/computing/wireless. Last we heard, CMU has the largest 802.11 wireless deployment to date.
As other people have noted, handheld devices are a good fit for wireless and there is a project underway to deploy this on campus.
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Re:WaveLan, BreezecomSpeaking of CMU, the wireless deployment at CMU is documented at http://www.cmu.edu/computing/wireless. Last we heard, CMU has the largest 802.11 wireless deployment to date.
As other people have noted, handheld devices are a good fit for wireless and there is a project underway to deploy this on campus.
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Re:Here's one solution....
> I HAD to get a US drivers license.
You do know that you have the RIGHT to travel, yes?
Travelling is a RIGHT, Driving is a privilege. You DON'T need a license to travel.
I travel without one, and have yet to be given a ticket for speeding or for driving without a license.
Here is a list of DOCUMENTED rulings.
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
>>> Also, without an SSN, you can't open bank accounts, or get credit cards. This means no renting an apartment.
>> FALSE.
> TOTALY ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY TRUE.
>You obviously have never tried to do this.
Tell that to my landlord, and my previous one.
I AM doing it. Is it illegal to live without a SSN??
> If you don't have a SSN, how the hell are you living here ?
I have lots of American friends who don't have a SSN either. Do you want to tell them too, that they can't live here?
It IS possible.
> They don't HAVE to have laws for this.
SO if the rest of society jumped off a bridge you would too?? ;-)
Until, someone can SHOW me the law that requires a person to have a SSN, I'm living without one.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Passle of robo projects at CMU
If you want to look over a bunch of robotics projects at CMU, here's a nice list. It's not complete, but there are a bunch of pictures of robots and links to more info.
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Re:Autonomous (NOT) RobotsYes, Xavier often has his manservant with him, but it's been a while since he's had to hit the kill switch. Xavier and Amelia both come to my office and annoy me, unattended. I'm in the same corridor and my door is often open (5303).
Flo the Nursebot is an interesting new development. It uses speech recognition, synthesis, and face tracking, nominally intended as a "robotic assistant for the elderly." The 'lips' move when flo talks, and the eyes track the face of whoever it thinks it's talking to.
Robotics still has a long way to go, but things are starting to get interesting. Robots get a lot more interesting to me when you can talk to them; sometimes i wish they would just shut up when i tell them to, though.
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Re:Stereoscopic vision?This is actually a pretty straightforward computer vision approach. You use two cameras, and, since you've carefully calibrated the cameras and know how far apart they are, you can compute the distortion between the two images pixel by pixel. Since the cameras are in slightly different locations (separated by a fixed baseline and angle of difference), any disparity will be the result of the different angles of view of the two cameras.
One interesting point is that the farther apart the eyes are, the more sensetive the apparatus is. So one way to get better depth perception is to put your eyes out on stalks.
Here is a paper on fast stereo vision.
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Autonomous (NOT) RobotsThe problem with the current state of autonomous robots is that we don't trust them. The researchers who build them are really watching them every second with a finger on the kill switch.
You may remember Xavier the CMU robot with the web interface anyone could command. It showed live pictures from the robot's perspective of the halls it was wandering. What it didn't show was the grad student walking behind it every step of the way ready to kick the bumpers if Xavier got wiely.
One of the big supposed features of Nomad is that it has "Safeguarded Teleoperation" whereby you tell it to go somewhere and it goes there by a safe route -i.e. a route that doesn't have any obstructions or slopes too steep. But, in testing just a couple months ago Nomad nearly fell into the river when it rolled down a slope that was too steep.
There's your little update on the state of robotics. In large part it comes down to a general problem of software reliability in unpredictible circumstances. Robotics hasn't yet found what Operating Systems have found in their UNIX-mind-state of what should and shouldn't be and gereral purpose tools and solutions.
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The first schizophrenic robot???I guess that Marvin (the paranoïd androïd, of HHGTTG fame) is no longer the only robot with mental problems...
(seen on the p age describing the robot)
:> Nomad is a powerful computing platform. Its size allows all necessary
> processing to be performed on the robot. There are four computers on Nomad
> during this expedition. Two PCs running Windows NT control the panoramic
> camera, perform landmark based navigation, and run the autonomous
> classification software. A third computer running Red Hat Linux
> coordinates robot navigation and obstacle avoidance with the stereo
> cameras and the laser rangefinder.
> Finally, a VME processor cage with a Motorola 68060 processor controls
> Nomad's real-time processing, such as translation of driving commands
> into servo motor movements and the monitoring of all systems on Nomad.Now, let's introduce the schizo robot!!!
And I wonder what effet it will have to make the robot look through Microsoft-coloured glasses...
(Now, I wonder that OS runs on the 68060)...
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" It's a ligne Maginot-in-the-sky " -
But what does it look like?
Oh, for that go here
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Re:nice...but what were the specs?Check out The Machine Room for specs on this and many other classic 8-bit machines. I believe the PET 2001 had 8K RAM, a tape drive, a built-in screen and Commodore BASIC, a MicroSoft BASIC from about 1981, and a bizarre variant on ASCII that they called CBMSCII (ka-boomsky?). Later versions fixed some bugs, added a few extra commands to the BASIC, and replaced the chiclet keyboard with a very good quality one. It got up to 32K RAM using a 6502 chip, and possibly more with some psychotic paging techniques.
My parents bought a Commodore CBM-8032 in 1983, and it's what hooked me on computers. I still have a huge number of the cryptic SYS and POKE commands programmed into my fingers -- I sat down at an emulator recently, wondered out loud what was the system command to hard-reboot the machine, and my fingers typed SYS 64790 without the slightest hesitation. Eerie!
The best PET/CBM/C64/VIC/etc emulator is the VICE emulator. I recommend it to anyone running Unix, MS-DOS, Win95/NT, OS/2 or RiscOS who wants to remember the good old Commodore beasts. I've used it in the DOS and Windows versions, but not since I migrated (graduated?) to Linux. I might just check it out tho...
: Fruitbat :
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Re:Hunt the WUMPUS!
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10mbit mirror
I've set up a mirror at
ftp://templestowe.res.cmu.edu/pub/lokiga mes/
I notified Loki of this by email, and told them if they request me to take down the mirror, I will.
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The DIFFERENCE between Traveling and Driving
> much as driving a car without a license is illegal.
Travelling is a RIGHT, Driving is a privilege. You DON'T need a license to travel.
I travel without one, and have yet to be given a ticket for speeding or for driving without a license.
Here is a list of DOCUMENTED rulings.
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
WHERE do the police get the jurisdiction to give you a ticket in the first place since the roads ARE PUBLIC!?
Probably because you don't have the Manufactor's Statement of Origin for your automobile:
Vehicle Manufacturer's Certificate/Statement of Origin
Manufacturer's Statement of Origin - Key To ownership
My automobile is NOT registered by the government, since it is MY property.
When you buy a new autmobile, WHY does the goverment want you to surrender the MSO?
Title transfer
Licensing your new vehicle in Washington
LOUISIANA OFFICE OF MOTOR VEHICLES VEHICLE REGISTRATION & TITLE
Massachusetts Title Law
Speeding is NOT a crime, UNLESS you went to the government asking for permission (DRIVER'S LICENSE) to use their property (REGISTERED VEHICLE.) Remember Speeding != reckless driving.
If you don't want to be harassed by the good law officers, you can get an International Driver's Permit, which is valid in over 200 countries. No Socialist Slave Number is required.
Research the above links and see for yourself.
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Java support for Cye available now
To reiterate, the Java port is done -- if you want to drive the Cye from a linux box right now, all you need is the JDK, and the JCye package from www.teambots.org. The package was written by Brian Chemel at CMU's MultiRobot Lab. Regards, Tucker Balch
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A company that does it rightIn all my video gaming experience, there is but one company that has always done the following:
- Built a game that is both action-packed and intellectually challenging.
- Built a game that *works* 100% on the target platform
- Provided the best in both video and audio technology available at the time
- And doesn't mind spending millions of dollars on development
And that company is... Squaresoft. From Final Fantasy to Chrono Trigger, this company has always astounded me when I consider the depth of the story line, and the use of technology.
For instance, Final Fantasy VII was the first RPG game to really penetrate the average adult video game market. Also, its 3D rendering overlay on video was pretty cool stuff.
Now, take a look at Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy VIII (If you want to see the Chrono Cross opening - I have it here). These games are truly amazing. Chrono Cross' 3D overlay is even more impressive than Final Fantasy VII's - including shadows and other effects. Final Fantasy VIII's gameplay is unlike any other game.
Squaresoft has always amazed me with what comes out of their Hawaiian offices (who wouldn't want to live there? :). If anyone is setting the standard for the future of truly interactive video games (RPG or not), it's Squaresoft. - Built a game that is both action-packed and intellectually challenging.
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Re:Successful books using the Open Content License
Here's a list of links to online books:
Books On-line, Listed by Title
Free Books from Samizdat Press
Free Online Books At The Free Well
Hard Sci-Fi Stories
ITLibrary
Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing
PROJECT GUTENBERG - ETEXT LISTINGS
The On-Line Books Page
The page with these links is:
http://members.axion.net/~enrique/book.html
and if anyone would like to add links to that list, please email me at:
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Re:Is bandwidth the scapegoat for copywrite ???
It depends upon your university's policy.
For instance, Carnegie Mellon's Network Group: ResHall and Remote Access Guidelines has the following paragraph: (typos theirs...)
It may not remain feasible to provide unlimited connectivity for systems which are not strictly serving the
University's missions. Beacuse of this possibility, we reserve the right to request that users reduce the amount
of traffic being caused by their service, or where necessary, to remove such systems from the campus network.
In all but extreme cases, we will contact the owner of the system before removing it from the network.
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You might think it prophetic, but...The views that are expressed in the interview are quite congruent with the developments in software copyright over the last 20 years.
Several causes suggest themselves:
- BillG was being prophetic
:-)Nope - don't believe a word of that!
- BillG's opinions at that time, have become the prevailing legal opinions due to the influence of Microsoft.
I'd judge this to be partly true; it could be argued that one of the few true Microsoft innovations is the outgrowth of shrinkwrapped software licensing as we know it today. (I'm not saying that it is an unalloyed benefit; merely that it is a result of their activities.)
...But this is not a complete picture. It doesn't provide any reason, outside of BillG's stridency, for his views to have prevailed.We have to head on to...
- William H. Gates III's views, in 1980, were, with little doubt, informed by the fact that his father, William H. Gates Jr, was an intellectual property lawyer.
The Official W. H. Gates III bio provides a little indication of this; How to Become As Rich As Bill Gates describes it in more detail as does E-Mail from Bill.
The point here is that it is manifestly clear that "Trey's" positions are informed by the fact that his father was a corporate lawyer, one of the founders of Preston Gates & Ellis, LLP.
Many high tech companies have tended to have a hate-hate relationship with lawyers; I don't think it is any coincidence that Microsoft has had huge legal successes in the past when involvement with law was to some degree pervasive in the young Gate's life.
- BillG was being prophetic
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Hot grits but no pants
I beg to differ. Hot grits with no pants is just not the same.
To explain, I must necessarily digress. Perhaps you have heard of the fine old sport of Ferret Legging. If you have not, do yourself a favor, and follow the link.When you return, the connection should be clear. Hot grits with no pants is no substitute for hot grits down the pants. Or it that hot grits is no substitute for a ferret? Or that one must never pour hot grits on a ferret down one's pants?
Oh hell. Now you've got me all hot, flustered, and confused.
I'm going to go back out and watching the eclipse. Besides, Natalie Portman is complaining that she's getting cold out there, all alone.
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http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/
http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm
http://www.krackdown.com/decss
http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm
http://chaz.fsgs.com/misc/DvD/
http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html
http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip
http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/
http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/
http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/
http://members.xoom.com/s_o_sam/help.html
http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz
http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers
http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html
http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/
http://www.mindspring.com/~stonethrower
http://www.geocitie s.com/SiliconValley/Hardware/6188/index.html
http://matt.frogspace.net/css/
ftp://www.spamshack.net/pub/dcss/
http://imezok.tripod.com/Untitled.txt
http://warpedreality.members.easyspace. com/
http://w1.1634.telia.com/~u163400190
/DeCSS.ziphttp://homepages.go.com/homepage s/4/0/3/403_error/
http://members.xoom.com/maud123/Home/C SS.htm
http://hackingdvd.homestead.com
http://www.geocities.com/soho
/studios/6752/index.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/corporatemin dcontrol
http://darklord.darkthrone.com/user s/smith/dvd/
http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
http://www.twistedlogic.com/archive/dvd
http://www.divisionbyzero.com/decss/
http://kevins.ne.mediaone.net/~kevins/dv d/
http://friko6.onet.pl/war/mkochano/
http://planeta.clix.pt/DJ_AmAzInG/DVD/
http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4ef1890/css/
http://hackingdvd.homestead.com
http://www.uwm.edu/~zachkarp/index.html
http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/
http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd
http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/
http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip
http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600
http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt
http://members.xoom.com/freedvdinfo/
http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/3971/
http://24.114.168.235/public/css.htm
http://fairuse.freeservers.com/
http://jupiter.spaceports.com/~decss
http://www.crosswinds.net/oakland/~ahrendt/Lawyer
s _are_scu m-sucking_pigs [...]http://www.duffbrew.com/decss/
http://www.oblivion.net/~amar/css
http://members.tripod.com/ny2600/
http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/ny2600/
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/decs s/
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm
http://theannux.homestead.com/decss.html
http://members.aol.com/elktonstalkers/CS S/
http://pages.hotbot.com/edu/silex/mir ror.html
http://budsmoker.com/sites/decss/
http://www.geocities.com/watice2/
http://home.att.net
/~phreakonaleash/ccs_mirror--screw_the_feds/http://www.azillionmonkeys.c om/qed/recess_for_css.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS
http://supportyourlocal2600.homestead.co m/
http://www.angelfire.com/pe/sh3/deccs/
http://www.angelfire.com/el ectronic/icebandits/dvd.html
http://killer.radom.net/~shoggoth/dvd.ht ml
http://www3.50megs.com/dvd4free/
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Mirror from 2600 - probably will be gone soonMirrors
http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/
http://www.posexperts.com.pl/peopl e/wrobell/css/
http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip
http://www.sarahandcasey.com/decss/
http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd
http://people.mn.mediaone.net/bojay/s lashdot/
http://members.tripod.com/donotsueme/
http://donotsueme.homepage.com
http://donotsueme.freeservers.com/
http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~marsie/
http://www.capital.net/~mazzic
http://danger-island.com/~dav/any.lawyer.who [...]
http://www.fortunecity.com/vi ctorian/parkwood/95/DVD/
http://www.geocit ies.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/2819/index.html
http://www.execpc.com/~unicorn/dvdmirr or.htm
http://members.xoom.com/chapter3/Mamma No.htm
http://www.twistedlogic.com/archive/dvd
http://merlinjim.freeservers.com/dvd/
http://www.visi.com/~adept/liberty
http://mikedotd.penguinpowered.com/deccs
http://www.ct2600.org/2600-DVD.html
http://magic.hurrah.com/~fireball/dvd/
http://homepages.together.net/~ib nzahid/DeCSS.zip
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/dantepsn/
http://mikedotd.penguinpowered.com/decss
http://members.xoom.com/mxpxguy/dvd/
http://vedaa.tripod.com/decss.html
http://www.hackunlimited.com/dvd/
http://hem.fyristorg.com/police/css.htm
http://elknews.netpedia.net/dvd/
http://www.idrive.com/decss/web
http://www.chello.nl/~f.vanwaveren
http://www.clug.com/~vodak/dvd/
http://www.nacs.net/~vodak/dvd/
http://www.wpi.edu/~nassar/dvd/
http://www.glue.umd.edu/~castongj
http://www.geocities.com/cold_dvd/
http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/
http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/
http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm
http://www.krackdown.com/decss
http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm
http://chaz.fsgs.com/misc/DvD/
http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html
http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip
http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/
http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/
http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/
http://members.xoom.com/s_o_sam/help.html
http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz
http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers
http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html
http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/
http://www.mindspring.com/~stonethrower
http://www.geocitie s.com/SiliconValley/Hardware/6188/index.html
http://matt.frogspace.net/css/
ftp://www.spamshack.net/pub/dcss/
http://imezok.tripod.com/Untitled.txt
http://warpedreality.members.easyspace. com/
http://w1.1634.telia.com/~u163400190
/DeCSS.ziphttp://homepages.go.com/homepage s/4/0/3/403_error/
http://members.xoom.com/maud123/Home/C SS.htm
http://hackingdvd.homestead.com
http://www.geocities.com/soho
/studios/6752/index.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/corporatemin dcontrol
http://darklord.darkthrone.com/user s/smith/dvd/
http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
http://www.twistedlogic.com/archive/dvd
http://www.divisionbyzero.com/decss/
http://kevins.ne.mediaone.net/~kevins/dv d/
http://friko6.onet.pl/war/mkochano/
http://planeta.clix.pt/DJ_AmAzInG/DVD/
http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4ef1890/css/
http://hackingdvd.homestead.com
http://www.uwm.edu/~zachkarp/index.html
http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/
http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd
http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/
http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip
http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600
http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt
http://members.xoom.com/freedvdinfo/
http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/3971/
http://24.114.168.235/public/css.htm
http://fairuse.freeservers.com/
http://jupiter.spaceports.com/~decss
http://www.crosswinds.net/oakland/~ahrendt/Lawyer
s _are_scu m-sucking_pigs [...]http://www.duffbrew.com/decss/
http://www.oblivion.net/~amar/css
http://members.tripod.com/ny2600/
http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/ny2600/
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/decs s/
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm
http://theannux.homestead.com/decss.html
http://members.aol.com/elktonstalkers/CS S/
http://pages.hotbot.com/edu/silex/mir ror.html
http://budsmoker.com/sites/decss/
http://www.geocities.com/watice2/
http://home.att.net
/~phreakonaleash/ccs_mirror--screw_the_feds/http://www.azillionmonkeys.c om/qed/recess_for_css.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS
http://supportyourlocal2600.homestead.co m/
http://www.angelfire.com/pe/sh3/deccs/
http://www.angelfire.com/el ectronic/icebandits/dvd.html
http://killer.radom.net/~shoggoth/dvd.ht ml
http://www3.50megs.com/dvd4free/
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Zero-Knowledge ProofsThere's this interesting crypto method that lets you prove you know something without showing the method of proof, e.g. proof of identity without worrying about forgery. I found one explanation of it online, and Bruce Schneier writes a more detailed explanation in Applied Cryptography.
So, it's a double entendre: crypto in-joke, and also how much info you spread, accidentally, while using Freedom.
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The main theme is great
I love the main theme to Marathon. I've made it available here: ftp://hoju.res.cmu.edu/pub/marathon-t heme.mp3
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Travelling is a RIGHT, Driving is a privilegeVery nice post, which I agree with, but I would like to clarify one of your statements:
> Abuse the privilege, and it can be taken away...just like a driver's license
Travelling is a RIGHT, Driving is a privilege. You DON'T need a license to travel. I travel without one and without my car being registered by the government, and I have yet to be given a ticket for speeding or for driving without a license.
Here is a list of DOCUMENTED rulings.
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to TravelCheers
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Speeding is NOT a crimepolice will be pulling people over left and right for... you guessed it, speeding!
HOW can victimless crimes really be a crime? But more importantly WHERE do the police get the jurisdiction to give you a ticket in the first place since the roads ARE PUBLIC!?
Probably because you don't have the Manufactor's Statement of Origin for your automobile:
Vehicle Manufacturer's Certificate/Statement of Origin
Manufacturer's Statement of Origin - Key To ownershipWhen you buy a new autmobile, WHY does the goverment want you to surrender the MSO?
Title transfer
Licensing your new vehicle in Washington
LOUISIANA OFFICE OF MOTOR VEHICLES VEHICLE REGISTRATION & TITLE
Massachusetts Title LawTravelling is a RIGHT, Driving is a privilege. You DON'T need a license to travel. I travel without one, and have yet to be given a ticket for speeding or for driving without a license.
Here is a list of DOCUMENTED rulings.
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to TravelSpeeding is NOT a crime, UNLESS you went to the government asking for permission (DRIVER'S LICENSE) to use their property (REGISTERED VEHICLE.) If you don't want to be harassed by the good law officers, you can get an International Driver's Permit, which is valid in over 200 countries. No Socialist Slave Number is required.
Research the above links and see for yourself.Cheers
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Re:I figureThis page has good references and an explanation that includes the following:
On 2 January 1882 the Standard Oil Trust was formed. Attorney Samuel Dodd of Standard Oil came up with the idea of a Trust. A Board of Trustees was set up and all the Standard properties were placed in its hands. Every stockholder received 20 Trust certificates for each share of Standard Oil stock and all the profits of the component companies were sent to the nine trustees who determined the dividends. The nine Trustees elected the directors and officers of all the component companies. This allowed the Standard Oil to function as a monopoly since the nine Trustees ran all the component companies. Later, Standard pioneered the Holding Company which had the same effect as a board of trustees.
As an example of the aggressive acts of monopolies and the tactics used by those with a large market share to drive smaller competitors, that can't be subsumed out of business, how about undercutting:
"the industries accused of becoming monopolies during the congressional debates on the 1890 Sherman Antitrust Act all dropped their prices more rapidly than the general price level fell during the 10 years before the Sherman Act.(6)". Amusingly this piece of evidence comes from the Cato Institute in a paper which purports to show the opposite .
I see that it was necessary to break up Bell into smaller companies,
Bell was a government-created and government-protected monopoly.
So, you only object to being enslaved and oppressed and denied choice if it's by the government? I think this is where I disagree with many libertarians. As far as I'm concerned, being screwed by big business is just as painful as by the government. So the question is how to stop both. I'm probably even less tolerant of interference in my life than you are by what you say, but in your visceral reaction to the word "government" you are embracing an evil just as, if not worse. Cheers, Crush
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Where did you learn anti-trust law?
The cornerstone of anti-trust law -- and the idea behind a free press -- is that the individual citizen/consumer benefits from openness, choice and diversity of expression and opinion.
What ARE you talking about? You are way off base here on many levels.- Anti-trust law is not about expressions and optinions.
Spend some quality time with Google and learn more about what you are talking about. Here is some background on the Sherman Anti-Trust Law and you are not even close.
- The value of a free press is not in "openness", "choice", or "diversity of opinions"
The value of a free press is closely related to free speech in the sense that one can criticize the government without fear of being jailed or killed for it. That doesn't stop people from thinking free speech/free press means we can say/print/photograph anything we want and nobody can do anything about it.
- As others have pointed out, this is not a monopoly
Others have already pointed out that this is not a monopoly. There is plenty of competition and other avenues for news/entertainment.
- Big != Bad There is no inherent evilness in the size of a corporation. There is no inherent evilness in corporations.
- Anti-trust law is not about expressions and optinions.
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Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
Check out this - I am sure there is more out there, but has this been tested in court (it appears it might have been):
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
Please - read this over, and let us know...