Definitely. This is why ISI and publishers including Elsevier put so much effort into lobbying congress, through the Software Information Industry Association, to cut funding to the PubScience database project. They've got their sights set on PubMed (as distinction from PubMed Central), next.
I beg to differ. Hot grits with no pants is just not the same.
To explain, I must necessarily digress. Perhaps you have heard of the fine old sport of Ferret Legging. If you have not, do yourself a favor, and follow the link.
When you return, the connection should be clear. Hot grits with no pants is no substitute for hot grits down the pants. Or it that hot grits is no substitute for a ferret? Or that one must never pour hot grits on a ferret down one's pants?
Oh hell. Now you've got me all hot, flustered, and confused.
I'm going to go back out and watching the eclipse. Besides, Natalie Portman is complaining that she's getting cold out there, all alone.
Re:What are you doing online? Get OUTSIDE!
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Sure...you'll get so cold that you're practically PETRIFIED...
But just pour HOT GRITS down your pants, and you'll be warm and toasty in no time!
--Ravenfeather, freezing in the cold wind, typing in gloves, watching the eclipse, and thinking the universe would be a truly wonderful place even without Natalie Portman, Hot Grits, and Linux.
If you aren't lucky enough to have a computer set up on the balcony, from which you can see the eclipse taking place (as some of us are), get the heck off Slashdot and go outside! It's worth it, if the sky is clear where you are, no matter how cold and windy it is out there.
What a fantastic show!
--Ravenfeather, freezing off his fingers to bring you this content-free news report.
Wow! What a great idea! Penguin pr0n! Or maybe even Petrified Penguin pr0n! Or maybe just penguin softcore, with penguins looking sexy in nothing but little sweaters...The possibilities are endless!
Somehow I just keep thinking of the time in Bloom County when Milo gets a phone bill for thousands of dollars to 1-800-HOT-PUFFIN and Opus is looking decidedly sheepish...
And you're dead on, with regard to the fact that consultspeak words are always capatilized or enclosed in quotation marks. I didn't notice that the first time I read it.
However, I still have to disagree about your assertion regarding "precise words from a large vocabulary." The problem with the course description is not that the words too sophisticated or aimed at too high a level or any such thing. The problem, in my opinion, is precisely that they are imprecise or, at the very least, unneccesary. Regardless of how many Harvard or Stanford degrees one has, reading this sort of stuff is a chore. One dire symptom of consultantspeak is the overuse of these "sophisticated" (for lack of a better word) words; in my opinion this is usually an attempt to trade clarity for "impressiveness." It seems to me that in this respect, the session descriptions are about as guilty as you can get.
I far prefer your descriptions - sure, they'd need to be touched up a bit before replacing those on the web page - but they say what they mean, in what I would consider clear and precise English.
Well, this is probably a surefire target for flames as well as for "flamebait, -1", but I can afford the Karma hit, so what the hell. I'd really like a decent answer here.
Engelbart has done a lot of great stuff, there is no doubt about that. But unless I'm missing something, the course description should be enough to turn off a thinking slashdotter, or thinking human being of any persuasion whatsoever. I mean, consider session 1:
The Next Frontier - How Big is Big? The first session will set the context for the overall colloquium by describing the conundrum of increasing urgency and complexity of problems facing society's organizations and institutions, and the concomitant requirement for a strategic approach to augmenting organizational capabilities. This will include the necessity to shift paradigms, a particularly difficult activity for large organizations, and introduce the elements of Bootstrapping strategy and the ways in which the material will be covered throughout the colloquium.
Or session 2:
Augmenting Organizational Capabilities. The second session will present ways in which organizations can augment their capabilities by being pro-active in the evolution of techniques and approaches within the "human systems'" perspective, keeping in mind, and in advance of improvements in "tool systems." This pro-active approach is meant to reduce the time for large scale improvements that require simultaneous changes in human system elements and tools.
Is this stuff for real? Even if I tried, I couldn't write a better parady of the kind of corporate-consultantspeak nonsense that passes for wisdom in the valley these days. Or does Engelbart have to phrase it this way to get the attention of the people who need to hear it most? Or if I had gone to business school, would I find this sort of prose as easy to parse as I do my own area of the scientific literature?
Someone help me out here! What is going on? Has the emperor lost his clothes yet again? Or is there just something wrong with my eyes?
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention...it seems that Linux Journal is planning to do a story about the response of the Linux community to the plight of these penguins...and they've also sent a donation of their own. I look forward to seeing that story come out!
---Ravenfeather, feeling somewhat sheepish for replying to his reply to his own post.
Great job, everyone!!! I just stopped by the Phillip Island site again, and there are scores of slashdot readers who have stopped by, taken advantage of the on-line credit-card-based donation form, and chipped in for this great cause, just the last few hours. Of course I did the same.
More feedback from the rangers as well; this one made my whole day. The rangers there write:
PINP Release (Park Ranger) Fri 11:08am
...we are really smiling down here with appreciation, and feeling that our Island is very much part of a small and caring planet; here at the moment its a sunny day, blue skys and perfect weather for enjoying the world as it was meant to be. We are still working at removing oil off the rock platforms to stop Penguins rubbing against the rocks and getting coated in oil that way. The still sea helps today, because it means the Ranger crews can get out there and actually hand wash each rock! Quite a task, but worth every effort. Thanks again! We'll be keeping everyone informed as the situation prgeresses. Our big concern is for the chicks that rely on their parents to be fed. Unfortunately many of the oiled penguins we are treating still can't be released to sea, as they have yet to preen themselves and thus stimulate their natural waterproof coating. This means they can't swim out to sea and get food for the young chicks waiting back in the burrows and it is likely many chicks will starve:( It is very unfortunate that this "accident" happened in chick raising season. Your help however, is doing just that, helping us help the Little Penguins and rehabilitate the adults ASAP!
The Philip Island Nature Park now has a form available for credit card donations. That should take care of the currency-conversion problems.
According to the rangers on the site, " All monies raised will be going directly to improving the Little Penguin Hospital facilities in the here and now."
Well, once again it looks like we've been able, or will be able, to make a difference! From the penguins' web site:
PINP Release (Park Ranger) Fri 9:28am
This response is really fantastic - we are doing up a form page for those wanting to help out. And all the rangers here are *genuinely* moved at this overwhelming show of support. Wish we could show you the Penguin Hospital which is currently crowded by so many Little Penguins, and we will try and get some more pics online in our News Release service. And please keep the notes/emails coming in - this week has been very tiring and stressful. The Island and the Penguins (plus koalas and seals) are more than a job to everyone here. Its hard to explain, but these "wild animals" are very much a part of the life of our Island Community. I hope one day the Linux folk and others will join us for a celbration down here!
All monies raised will be going directly to improving the Little Penguin Hospital facilities in the here and now. Everything IS helping - and your words of encouragement are as meaningful to us as the donations being received. Thankyou! PS Could someone please post this thankyou somewhere ALL the Linux folk etc. can read it? Ta muchly!
and...
Amazing to see the replies coming in from the Linux community - what can we say? Thanks all!
Donations are very much appreciated as th enumber of affected penguins grows over 200 now, and sadly the number of dead is also rising:(
You can send a donation via cheque, postal or money order (probably travellers cheque as well) to:
Phillip Island Penguin Parade att: Penguin Hospital Support Fund P.O. Box 97 Cowes Phillip Island. Victoria. 3922. AUSTRALIA.
Email to: penguins@penguins.org.au (we WILL reply ASAP to all enquiries)
On the programming side, we have just installed three (3) live online internet "kiosks" in our Visitor Centre. These are due to be up and running this week, delayed a little by the current crisis. Currently the three PC's are networked to a UNIX server, however we have been seriously investigating how to get a Linux box in place.I'm still on a learning curve with Linux, and must confess that it was Linux's use of the Little Penguin that first attracted me to the free/community OS. Programming enquiries to: penguins@ozgurus.com
The occasional story like this - and in particular, the response that arises within the/. community when one is posted - is one of my favorite things about slashdot.
What do I mean by "the response"? Well, over at the Philip Island Preserve site, there have been thirty posts in the last couple of hours from slashdotters, most offering their help in the form of cash, sweaters, or whatever can be done.
This sure makes the Linux community look good - imagine how good it would be if the press picks up on the way that slashdot readers came to help out. And if the story, or the pictures of penguins in sweaters tug at your heartstrings, head on over to the Philip Island site, leave a comment, or better yet, make a donation.
I too visited Phillip Island, when I was a kid. I've loved penguins ever since. It's really an incredible sight, seeing all of these little penguins come wattling out of the surf. They make their way up the sandy beach and to the burrows in the dunes where their noisy, braying, fluffy, and impatient chicks - often bigger than the parents - are waiting. I'm so sorry to see that they've been hurt by an oil slick, and I sure hope this will have no serious impact on the Philip Island population as whole. Does anyone know anything about that, one way or the other????
Oh, and with regard to the comment:
Whoever dumped the slick off Phillip Island should be fed to sharks.
"I wasn't here to see man land on the moon, or JFK's assassination. I don't really remember Nixon's resignation or the hostage crisis. This is undoubtedly the most important and memorable moment of our lifetime, and I'm trapped at my desk. It's just not worth it."
If it's not worth it to you, then quit your damn job!
Idiot.
Don't go whining about it online.
And certainly don't go taking advantage whatever alien body snatcher has taken over poor Hemos and forces him like a puppet on a string to submit articles of ever-increasing irrelevence in hopes of bringing down this mighty paragon of open-source intellectual pursuit.
but the bottom line is that if Slashdot catered exclusively to the Linux community they wouldn't get much audience...
You know? If I was going to post something this blatantly stupid, I'd post as an AC too! Do you not have any idea of this history of/.? Or did you just follow a link from Wired last week?
But more to the point, both in reply to your post and that of the others flaming those who are concerned with lack of linux drivers, I've got a harsh reality for you - not every post on/. is going to be relevent to you. I don't go through flaming the hell out of everyone who posts something about a Palm Pilot, even though (!!!) I don't own one...
As the Rage Fury MAXX is meant for gamers, ATi has written drivers for Windows 98 only. While we'd agree that most gamers don't run NT4, it will be interesting to see the impact Windows 2000 has on the gaming community. Other then that, Linux users will have to look elsewhere and Win 3.x users should definitely think about upgrading.
When will these people learn???? Sounds like a nice card, but I'm certainly not in the market for Windows-only hardware.
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Blaise Pascal was not only a brilliant physicist and mathematician (his accomplishments include the foundations of modern probability theory), but also - arguably - the original existentialist philospher. In his lifetime the geocentric model of the universe was largely abandoned; with this he found himself, and the meaning of human life, at risk of being lost entirely in the vastness of time and space.
A few quotations, all from Pensees, to contemplate:
"When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, and the little space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of space of which I am ignorant, and which knows me not, I am frightened, and am astonished at being here rather than there, why now rather than then." (#205)
"I see those frightful spaces of the universe which surround me, and I find myself tied to one corner of this vast expanse, without knowing why I am put in this place rather than in another, nor why the short time which is given me to live is assigned to me at this point rather than at another of the whole eternity which was before me or which shall come after me." (#194)
"Numbers imitate space, which is of a different nature" (#119)
"If we dreamt the same thing every night, it would affect us as much as the objects we see every day. And if an artisan were sure to dream every night for twelve hours' duration that he was a king, I believe he would be almost as happy as a king, who should dream every night for twelvc hours on end that we was an artisan.
"If we were to dream very night that we were pursued by enemies, and harrassed by these painful phantoms, or that we passed every day in different occupations, as in making a voyage, we should suffer almost as much as if it were real, and should fear to sleep, a we fear to wake when we dread in fact to enter on such mishaps. And, indeed, it would cause pretty nearly the same discomforts as the reality.
"But since dreams are all different, and each single one is diversified, what is seen in them affects us much less than what we see when awake, because of its continuity, which is not, however, so continuous and level as not to change too; but iot changes less abruptly, except rarely, as when we travel, and then we say, "It seems to me that I am dreaming." For life is a dream a little less inconsistant." (#386)
Windows 99 - it will make you boot. And boot. And boot. And boot....
*This Will Be Moderated Up But
Acid-free trip (and where Katz should have gone)
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Actually, I might argue that the closest thing to an acid trip without really doing it is a day spend in silence in the Nevada desert just outside of Vegas, followed by an evening return to the lights and greed and excess and sanitized sin of the strip.
Which brings me to the real point. If Katz wants to find the future...and if he wants to find what is the common uniting experience of Americans...and if he wants to stick to the sort of pessimistic prophesizing that we've seen so far...he shouldn't be writing about Orlando.
No, I've seen the future, and the future is Vegas.
Definitely. This is why ISI and publishers including Elsevier put so much effort into lobbying congress, through the Software Information Industry Association, to cut funding to the PubScience database project. They've got their sights set on PubMed (as distinction from PubMed Central), next.
I beg to differ. Hot grits with no pants is just not the same.
To explain, I must necessarily digress. Perhaps you have heard of the fine old sport of Ferret Legging. If you have not, do yourself a favor, and follow the link.When you return, the connection should be clear. Hot grits with no pants is no substitute for hot grits down the pants. Or it that hot grits is no substitute for a ferret? Or that one must never pour hot grits on a ferret down one's pants?
Oh hell. Now you've got me all hot, flustered, and confused.
I'm going to go back out and watching the eclipse. Besides, Natalie Portman is complaining that she's getting cold out there, all alone.
Sure...you'll get so cold that you're practically PETRIFIED...
But just pour HOT GRITS down your pants, and you'll be warm and toasty in no time!
--Ravenfeather, freezing in the cold wind, typing in gloves, watching the eclipse, and thinking the universe would be a truly wonderful place even without Natalie Portman, Hot Grits, and Linux.Amazing!
If you aren't lucky enough to have a computer set up on the balcony, from which you can see the eclipse taking place (as some of us are), get the heck off Slashdot and go outside! It's worth it, if the sky is clear where you are, no matter how cold and windy it is out there.
What a fantastic show!
--Ravenfeather, freezing off his fingers to bring you this content-free news report.Flamebait? Not in a million years! This is the funniest thing I've seen here all day, not to mention completely true.
Well Chris, looks like your bad luck that Signal11 had some moderation points left.Wow! What a great idea! Penguin pr0n! Or maybe even Petrified Penguin pr0n! Or maybe just penguin softcore, with penguins looking sexy in nothing but little sweaters...The possibilities are endless!
Somehow I just keep thinking of the time in Bloom County when Milo gets a phone bill for thousands of dollars to 1-800-HOT-PUFFIN and Opus is looking decidedly sheepish...
--Ravenfeather, off to register a domain name.
Good point, with regard to the military sponsers.
And you're dead on, with regard to the fact that consultspeak words are always capatilized or enclosed in quotation marks. I didn't notice that the first time I read it.
However, I still have to disagree about your assertion regarding "precise words from a large vocabulary." The problem with the course description is not that the words too sophisticated or aimed at too high a level or any such thing. The problem, in my opinion, is precisely that they are imprecise or, at the very least, unneccesary. Regardless of how many Harvard or Stanford degrees one has, reading this sort of stuff is a chore. One dire symptom of consultantspeak is the overuse of these "sophisticated" (for lack of a better word) words; in my opinion this is usually an attempt to trade clarity for "impressiveness." It seems to me that in this respect, the session descriptions are about as guilty as you can get.
I far prefer your descriptions - sure, they'd need to be touched up a bit before replacing those on the web page - but they say what they mean, in what I would consider clear and precise English.
Comments?Well, this is probably a surefire target for flames as well as for "flamebait, -1", but I can afford the Karma hit, so what the hell. I'd really like a decent answer here.
Engelbart has done a lot of great stuff, there is no doubt about that. But unless I'm missing something, the course description should be enough to turn off a thinking slashdotter, or thinking human being of any persuasion whatsoever. I mean, consider session 1:
The Next Frontier - How Big is Big?The first session will set the context for the overall colloquium by describing the conundrum of increasing urgency and complexity of problems facing society's organizations and institutions, and the concomitant requirement for a strategic approach to augmenting organizational capabilities. This will include the necessity to shift paradigms, a particularly difficult activity for large organizations, and introduce the elements of Bootstrapping strategy and the ways in which the material will be covered throughout the colloquium.
Or session 2:
Augmenting Organizational Capabilities.
The second session will present ways in which organizations can augment their capabilities by being pro-active in the evolution of techniques and approaches within the "human systems'" perspective, keeping in mind, and in advance of improvements in "tool systems." This pro-active approach is meant to reduce the time for large scale improvements that require simultaneous changes in human system elements and tools.
Is this stuff for real? Even if I tried, I couldn't write a better parady of the kind of corporate-consultantspeak nonsense that passes for wisdom in the valley these days. Or does Engelbart have to phrase it this way to get the attention of the people who need to hear it most? Or if I had gone to business school, would I find this sort of prose as easy to parse as I do my own area of the scientific literature?
Someone help me out here! What is going on? Has the emperor lost his clothes yet again? Or is there just something wrong with my eyes?
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention...it seems that Linux Journal is planning to do a story about the response of the Linux community to the plight of these penguins...and they've also sent a donation of their own. I look forward to seeing that story come out!
---Ravenfeather, feeling somewhat sheepish for replying to his reply to his own post.Great job, everyone!!! I just stopped by the Phillip Island site again, and there are scores of slashdot readers who have stopped by, taken advantage of the on-line credit-card-based donation form, and chipped in for this great cause, just the last few hours. Of course I did the same.
More feedback from the rangers as well; this one made my whole day. The rangers there write:
PINP Release (Park Ranger) Fri 11:08amThe Philip Island Nature Park now has a form available for credit card donations. That should take care of the currency-conversion problems.
According to the rangers on the site, " All monies raised will be going directly to improving the Little Penguin Hospital facilities in the here and now."
Well, once again it looks like we've been able, or will be able, to make a difference! From the penguins' web site:
PINP Release (Park Ranger) Fri 9:28amThis response is really fantastic - we are doing up a form page for those wanting to help out. And all the rangers here are *genuinely* moved at this overwhelming show of support. Wish we could show you the Penguin Hospital which is currently crowded by so many Little Penguins, and we will try and get some more pics online in our News Release service. And please keep the notes/emails coming in - this week has been very tiring and stressful. The Island and the Penguins (plus koalas and seals) are more than a job to everyone here. Its hard to explain, but these "wild animals" are very much a part of the life of our Island Community. I hope one day the Linux folk and others will join us for a celbration down here!
All monies raised will be going directly to improving the Little Penguin Hospital facilities in the here and now. Everything IS helping - and your words of encouragement are as meaningful to us as the donations being received. Thankyou! PS Could someone please post this thankyou somewhere ALL the Linux folk etc. can read it? Ta muchly!
and...
Amazing to see the replies coming in from the Linux community - what can we say? Thanks all!
Donations are very much appreciated as th enumber of affected penguins grows over 200 now, and sadly the number of dead is also rising :(
You can send a donation via cheque, postal or money order (probably travellers cheque as well) to:
Phillip Island Penguin Parade
att: Penguin Hospital Support Fund
P.O. Box 97
Cowes
Phillip Island. Victoria. 3922. AUSTRALIA.
Email to: penguins@penguins.org.au (we WILL reply ASAP to all enquiries)
On the programming side, we have just installed three (3) live online internet "kiosks" in our Visitor Centre. These are due to be up and running this week, delayed a little by the current crisis. Currently the three PC's are networked to a UNIX server, however we have been seriously investigating how to get a Linux box in place.I'm still on a learning curve with Linux, and must confess that it was Linux's use of the Little Penguin that first attracted me to the free/community OS. Programming enquiries to: penguins@ozgurus.com
Thanks and have a good one all!
That's right!
The occasional story like this - and in particular, the response that arises within the /. community when one is posted - is one of my favorite things about slashdot.
What do I mean by "the response"? Well, over at the Philip Island Preserve site, there have been thirty posts in the last couple of hours from slashdotters, most offering their help in the form of cash, sweaters, or whatever can be done.
This sure makes the Linux community look good - imagine how good it would be if the press picks up on the way that slashdot readers came to help out. And if the story, or the pictures of penguins in sweaters tug at your heartstrings, head on over to the Philip Island site, leave a comment, or better yet, make a donation.
I too visited Phillip Island, when I was a kid. I've loved penguins ever since. It's really an incredible sight, seeing all of these little penguins come wattling out of the surf. They make their way up the sandy beach and to the burrows in the dunes where their noisy, braying, fluffy, and impatient chicks - often bigger than the parents - are waiting. I'm so sorry to see that they've been hurt by an oil slick, and I sure hope this will have no serious impact on the Philip Island population as whole. Does anyone know anything about that, one way or the other????
Oh, and with regard to the comment:
Whoever dumped the slick off Phillip Island should be fed to sharks.
I concur. One limb at a time.No kidding!
"I wasn't here to see man land on the moon, or JFK's assassination. I don't really remember Nixon's resignation or the hostage crisis. This is undoubtedly the most important and memorable moment of our lifetime, and I'm trapped at my desk. It's just not worth it."If it's not worth it to you, then quit your damn job!
Idiot.
Don't go whining about it online.And certainly don't go taking advantage whatever alien body snatcher has taken over poor Hemos and forces him like a puppet on a string to submit articles of ever-increasing irrelevence in hopes of bringing down this mighty paragon of open-source intellectual pursuit.
but the bottom line is that if Slashdot catered exclusively to the Linux community they wouldn't get much audience...
You know? If I was going to post something this blatantly stupid, I'd post as an AC too! Do you not have any idea of this history of /.? Or did you just follow a link from Wired last week?
But more to the point, both in reply to your post and that of the others flaming those who are concerned with lack of linux drivers, I've got a harsh reality for you - not every post on /. is going to be relevent to you. I don't go through flaming the hell out of everyone who posts something about a Palm Pilot, even though (!!!) I don't own one...
Why on earth is that post - a reasonable summary of the two articles - moderated DOWN as a troll?
Hoping to meet you in a dark metamoderation alleyway....That's all we need. Thanks for the info...
From the Sharky review:
As the Rage Fury MAXX is meant for gamers, ATi has written drivers for Windows 98 only. While we'd agree that most gamers don't run NT4, it will be interesting to see the impact Windows 2000 has on the gaming community. Other then that, Linux users will have to look elsewhere and Win 3.x users should definitely think about upgrading.
When will these people learn???? Sounds like a nice card, but I'm certainly not in the market for Windows-only hardware.Two words: Mary Shelley
Blaise Pascal was not only a brilliant physicist and mathematician (his accomplishments include the foundations of modern probability theory), but also - arguably - the original existentialist philospher. In his lifetime the geocentric model of the universe was largely abandoned; with this he found himself, and the meaning of human life, at risk of being lost entirely in the vastness of time and space.
A few quotations, all from Pensees, to contemplate:
"When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, and the little space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of space of which I am ignorant, and which knows me not, I am frightened, and am astonished at being here rather than there, why now rather than then." (#205)
"I see those frightful spaces of the universe which surround me, and I find myself tied to one corner of this vast expanse, without knowing why I am put in this place rather than in another, nor why the short time which is given me to live is assigned to me at this point rather than at another of the whole eternity which was before me or which shall come after me." (#194)
"Numbers imitate space, which is of a different nature" (#119)
"If we dreamt the same thing every night, it would affect us as much as the objects we see every day. And if an artisan were sure to dream every night for twelve hours' duration that he was a king, I believe he would be almost as happy as a king, who should dream every night for twelvc hours on end that we was an artisan.
"If we were to dream very night that we were pursued by enemies, and harrassed by these painful phantoms, or that we passed every day in different occupations, as in making a voyage, we should suffer almost as much as if it were real, and should fear to sleep, a we fear to wake when we dread in fact to enter on such mishaps. And, indeed, it would cause pretty nearly the same discomforts as the reality.
"But since dreams are all different, and each single one is diversified, what is seen in them affects us much less than what we see when awake, because of its continuity, which is not, however, so continuous and level as not to change too; but iot changes less abruptly, except rarely, as when we travel, and then we say, "It seems to me that I am dreaming." For life is a dream a little less inconsistant." (#386)
Windows 99 - it will make you boot. And boot. And boot. And boot....
*This Will Be Moderated Up ButActually, I might argue that the closest thing to an acid trip without really doing it is a day spend in silence in the Nevada desert just outside of Vegas, followed by an evening return to the lights and greed and excess and sanitized sin of the strip.
Which brings me to the real point. If Katz wants to find the future...and if he wants to find what is the common uniting experience of Americans...and if he wants to stick to the sort of pessimistic prophesizing that we've seen so far...he shouldn't be writing about Orlando.
No, I've seen the future, and the future is Vegas.
TSBMU
(This should be moderated up)