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Are you SERIOUSLY that fucking deluded Lintroll? Can you not read or understand anything written unless it is posted as 'I heart lunix and suck teh cocks LOL!"? because I just fucking said MSFT DESERVED TO BE BUSTED FOR ANTITRUST you stupid RMS blowing lintroll, can't you fucking read? oh well i guess you just love being bitchslapped by some large southern manmeat, so once again i'll show what an absolute failure your OS is Enjoy and try not to drool on Linus's balls when you blow him, I hear he hates that.

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

Oh wow, proof that from the very beginning /. had total whackjobs! And I noticed you are TOO SCARED to post anymore unless it has left the front page. Whats the matter Alex, karma starting to suck? I guess we "super sekret M$ ninjas" smack the shit out of little blankie huggers like you. But since you like being cock slapped by the truth so much, as a public service I show your failure yet again! Enjoy!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Actually Alex I'm starting to become convinced that IT IS YOU that is working for Microsoft ZOMG! After all you are doing more to make Linux users look like completely batshit basement dwelling loonie toons than anybody since Twitter and his "It is Bill Gates and the Illuminati in a world wide conspiracy to kill FLOSS!". But hey, since you seem to enjoy being cock slapped by the truth and even after 5 WEEKS of following me around have YET to answer a single link posted on the fatal Linux driver issue? Enjoy as I bitch slap you again! No begone or I shall taunt you some more!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Wow, you are TRULY batshit aren't you? here we are talking about Adobe and Linux, nobody says a damned word about Windows anything, yet it MUST be that I'm a super secret stealth ninja for MSFT just waiting to ambush your 'precious'. But hey this retailer will be more than happy to give your OS a good slapping around if it makes ya happy Alex, lets begin shall we?

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

And for the actual Linux USERS out there, not the batshit "It is a plot by gates and the Illuminati to kill FLOSS" nutjobs like Alex? As a retailer let me say this: i like your OS, your GUI is in many ways superior to what is out there, but the driver model is shit. I don't care if you use an ABI or sacrifice Linus to Cthulu fix this one damned problem so my customers can run updates without the OS having a heart attack and hosing the drivers? i'll be happy to put Linux boxes back on the shelve

Awww, whatsa matter girlie? Can't even find a single argument to back up your bullshit? None at all? Afraid of the truth? Scared? Crying at being shown that Tux blankie is diseased and covered in shit? Don't blame the messenger because you keep sucking on the Linus cock and then acting surprised when you're blinded by the splooge. As a public service I will again post the links, so that all can see how completely full of shit you are and how unlike you I who have the truth on my side have NO SHORTAGE of links to back my assertions up. Citations? I'll give you citations!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Ahhh so here we have proof that when confronted with the truth a Linux zealot can only grab his Tux blankie and scream "nigger faggot" or in Linux terms "Troll shill astroturfer." Perhaps a little more truth to choke on?

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Re: Why aren't the authorities using their resources to actually find, arrest, and confine the people
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/224056/federal_police_anti-porn_operations_cut_by_razor_gang/
They cut $2.8 million from the Online Child Sex Exploitation Team in Australia....
I guess the filter did better with a focus group?

In Australia a State Government used a ridiculously expensive "off the shelf" SAP payroll solution that turned into a complete disaster. A year later and staff still aren't being paid properly. Lots of finger pointing between IBM, SAP and Corptech who is the State Government's IT corporation. They paid $40M for software that didn't work, and still doesn't work.

Take that number in. $40M. Ridiculously overpriced even if it did work, but this doesn't even do that. Payroll isn't rocket science. A few competent programmers locked away for 6 months could do better. Far too much money is thrown at so-called 'enterprise software'.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/218348,ibm-under-fire-for-qld-health-bungle.aspx
http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/351650/ibm_says_queensland_health_sap_failure_its_fault/
http://www.zdnet.com.au/qld-health-sap-woes-lead-to-cash-advances-339302381.htm
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2010/05/07/215335_gold-coast-news.html
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/qld-health-pays-hefty-price-for-sick-payroll-system/story-e6frgakx-1225813063057
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/351608/updated_qld_govt_blames_ibm_health_payroll_bungle/

Wow, you really want to suck my cock, don't you Alex? Because here we are, talking about fucking high School and the public education system, no one has mentioned Operating Systems in ANY way shape or form, yet still you follow me around like a fangirl with her panties wet. But hey, since you want to get slapped around by my large cock again, here it goes...Watch everyone, as poor Alex has NO comeback for this massive cock slapping!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

You are like those full retards that think the moon landing was faked, you realize this right? Where is your proof? CITATION PLEASE or go back to blowing Linus and the gang. Because unless MSFT suddenly moved their HQ to the middle of AR without telling anyone (and since it has been over 100 all week with a heat index of 106+ it sure as fuck ain't WA) then you are once again showing what a pathetic little cunt you are.

Where is your response to the links? To the retailers leaving in droves? To Linus himself? Can you not read, is that it? Is words on a page that say something other than "herp derp deh lunix is teh roxorz LOL!" more than your teeny tiny mind able to comprehend? I've actually written articles on what retailers need to sell your product, where's yours? Where have you contributed ANYTHING but mindless Linus blowing, ehh?

Kill yourself. Make this world a better place. You are alone because nobody wants you, it isn't gonna get any better, tomorrow your life will be just as empty as it is right now....kill yourself. Will your worldly goods (although what they'll want with a cardboard box and a tux blankie is beyond me) to the Linux foundation and walk in front of that train. You know you want to, you know the loneliness is eating you alive...kill yourself.

Me I have to get the beef ready for the BBQ, my sweet little half Cherokee GF has as usual invited every kinfolk she has and good BBQ takes tim to do it right. Of course you wouldn't know of such things, having never know a woman's touch or had anything other than MickeyD's. How sad, such a sad and pitiful little creature. I find that....delightful. Make the world a better place, remove yourself from it.Oh and in case you need the links again so you can cry before you get the rope, and for the elucidation of others (I know its a big word, look it up) I'll be happy to paste the paragraphs that makes you so mad, just as a special gift for the holidays.

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and

HAY GUYZ, its Alex again, the full retard that even after being given example after example after example of why retailers like me refuse to carry his product, or how even Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans! written in nice little words small enough for his little mind to understand all he can do is clutch his Tux blankie and go "Waah! He won't drink the kooliad! Waaah, he won't accept fucked up drivers and give them to his customers! Waahhh he must part of the global conspiracy!

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But what can you expect from a koolaid drinking freetard, that has completely accepted the "shit sandwich" design, as in "Here is a shit sandwich and since its free you have NO RIGHT to complain about the smell! Or the taste! Errr..or the fact that its a shit sandwich!" This is why there is a whole website dedicated To his bullshit and excuses and those like them. He reminds me of a small child that sticks his fingers in his ears and goes "La la la I can't hear you" as everytime this little Lintard troll shows up following me I post link after link proving my point and ALL he can say is that I must secretly be getting giant checks from MSFT. This is why even Penny Arcade writes cartoons about him and his pals.

Want to know why retailers won't carry your product, even though it is "free" and would save us licensing fees? Feel free to look at the above links, or Lintards like Alex who REALLY doesn't help your case any with their "La la la everything works and ur a shill!" kiddie bullshit. No go compile something sonny the men are trying to talk here

Riiight. Hey douchey, citation please? Someone must have forgotten to tell me where Ballmer parked the money truck. Hell I don't even get discount licensing I buy OEM boxes off Newegg like every other system builder.

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linus shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walamart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

How on earth are the people using Government computers supposed to "research" all of the dangers and issues associated with Child Pornography if they can't find it?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/christian-mp-fred-nile-engulfed-in-net-porn-scandal/story-e6frf7l6-1225913110721
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/nsw-mp-fred-nile-denies-porn-has-been-viewed-on-computers-in-his-office/story-e6frg6nf-1225913267507
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/03/nsw-parliament%E2%80%99s-flawed-prn-hunt/
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/370016/child_porn_alarm_nsw_parliament/
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/02/Antigay_NSW_MP_Blames_Porn_on_Research/

The problem I have is NOT flash, which as you said works pretty good, it is that you can't update Linux because the drivers WILL shit themselves and die!

Want proof? proof that nobody here can deny? here you go...why does Dell, one of the largest OEMs on the planet, have to disable the repos on every. single. Ubuntu machine they sell and deal with the hassle and expense of running their own repo, even for a small subset of the hardware they sell? Why because if they don't Linux breaks drivers oh fun oh joy!

It is THIS that I am talking about how mainstream is ignored by the geek brigade. linux is built BY geeks and FOR geeks and as geeks they think because THEY know how to recompile drivers, how to do forum hunts with a list of what make/model/rev of hardware they have, find a fix, and then "tweak" said fix because it was written for hardware B rev f and they have hardware D rev j that anyone can do it, and that is about as far from the truth as from here to Jupiter.

This is why small retailers like me won't carry your product even though it would save us a fortune it license fees, it is why Walmart and every other B&M that has tried offering your product has dropped it, why a 10 year old Windows beat the latest Linux on netbooks and why early adopters like ASUS has all but abandoned your product.

When your product is free, yet all these companies, from little ones like mine to fortune 500 giants, would rather pay money than use your product? That should tell you that you have a problem. Nobody cares if you have the coolest most secure low resource OS on the planet if in 6 months when the updates roll out the box shits itself and dies. The average user isn't gonna jump through flaming hoops just to be "free as in freedom!" and I can't afford to give away lifetime support.

Oh and PLEASE don't say LTS, as long as Linux software is tied to the kernel you might as well call that an out of date unpatched OS, because that is what it is. Oh and please don't say "Use Distro X" where X equals any distro other than the half a dozen I've already tried, since we all know that they are all based on a few "mother sauces" and so far I've tried Ubuntu, mint, PCLinuxOS, and Mepis, oh and Mandriva, and ALL had the same result. Updates roll out/ something breaks. With Windows they get on average a decade of security patches with NO driver issues. I have yet to even update a single machine twice, that equals roughly 18 months of support depending on the distro, without something breaking. Gentlemen that is simply unacceptable.

Now feel free to call me nasty names and mode me down, as I've noticed that anyone that says anything other than "gee isn't Linux perfect? Why it sure is Biff, and RMS's farts smell like roses!" gets modded to hell and called the Linux equivalent of faggot and nigger, that is shill and astroturfer.

Today, Gillard and NBN paid Eleven Billion Dollars to buy the Telstra copper network. Do you really think they're going to rip it out or decommission it?

Yes, they are decommissioning the entire copper network: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/350563/telstra-nbn_co_deal_telstra_plans_phased_copper_decommission/

And here comes the religious dogma I was talking about! Isn't it funny that the argument against having stable functioning drivers always comes down to IDEOLOGY, with the rant most people link to going so far as to call those that refuse to hand over source "leeches" and hope the kernel futzing breaks their drivers?

I mean WTF is it to you if some do and some don't? Is that ANY different than right now? Nope, as you still have companies like Nvidia that makes binary blobs, only now you get to watch them break every six months. Does having open drivers keep Linux from breaking? Nope again as the open drivers break just as often thanks to Linus and his kernel fucking, because if you could look at it logically instead of a faith based perspective you'd see that there are only so many devs, and there are fewer of them than drivers to fix so drivers will ALWAYS be broken when Linus gets a wild hair up his ass, every. single. time!

And allow me to say that if your way "worked" in any kind of reasonable fashion retailers wouldn't avoid your OS like the clap which I can assure you we most certainly do. Not just all the thousands of mom&pop shops, dotting the entire country, but big names like Best Buy, Staples, Walmart, do you think they avoid your OS because of its "quality construction" or a secret conspiracy? NO! It is because they take the box home, run updates when the little icon tells them to and get a broken machine like it is 1993 all over again, and promptly take that broke ass shit back! And since we retailers can't sell used as new that means we take a hit on every return making Linux even MORE expensive!

As a final word allow me to give you proof, undeniable proof like a slap to the face your current way is broke ass shit. Now I'm sure you'll find some excuse, like "Use Distro X" or "You should buy hardware Y" but in the end all you will have is excuses because this proof should make even YOU take note! Now you and your fellow converts think we retailers are just full of it, that it should "just work" right? well when one of the biggest OEMs on the planet has to DISABLE the repos and spend considerable money and man hours keeping a badly out of date "corporate repo" just for their customers because if they don't the drivers WILL break then i'm sure you can see why both little guys like me and big guys like Walmart and OEMs like ASUS have washed their hands of your OS. I mean when fricking netbooks, a class of machine built around Linux strengths and which started out more than 30% Linux ends up completely obliterated by a decade old Windows OS it is high time to ask yourself "What are we doing wrong?" and I'd say basing your OS on religion instead of sound design practices and trusting your customers to make purchases that will benefit them (such as choosing FOSS drivers where possible so they have LTS) is a good example of why Linux is so far behind everyone else, and why even free you are getting hammered by an OS with a $100 barrier to entry.

So your answers are, in no particular order, YouDisagreeWithMeThereforeYou AreATroll along with WorksForMeAtHomeItDoesReally and ImaginaryProblemsKillWindows with a bit of LinuxSupportsMoreHardwareThan Windows when in reality you get ThisIsAKnownProblemNowGetLost and YouAreUsingTheWrongHardware

Isn't it kinda sad that I can answer EVERY SINGLE THING you and the other FOSS zealots here say with TMs? Doesn't it bother you, even just a little? You know why I can do that so easily? It is because you have been spouting the same bullshit so long there are TMs for it and have been for some time. You are like birthers, same shit, different day.

So I suppose those THOUSANDS asking for help on ANY forum, you pick, are ALL trolls? Maybe you want to list them as paid shills? And you STILL haven't posted an answer to Torvalds and his "We don't need no steenkin plans" which is OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH.

Look if you want to dumpster dive, or use old hardware, then Linux works fine on a desktop. On a laptop, which is practically proprietary in a box? You'll spend more time fiddling with bullshit than you will using the thing. Tell me AC, when was the last time you had to go CLI? This week? Today? And I bet you had to go CLI when the last 6 month upgrade death march came out didn't you?

But no, stick your head in the sand, label everyone that points out problems a shill, instead of asking yourself this fundamental econ 101 question: What am I doing wrong, that my competitors are doing right? Because NO B&M stores will touch you, from little shops like mine to big shops like Walmart. Do you think we like paying for Windows? It gives us a warm fuzzy?

Nope the answer is your DRIVER MODEL IS ASS, your kernel is run by a douchebag, with every update TWO things break for every ONE fixed, your DEs seem to be run by Bizzaro "Quick, things am getting stable! Must break things by starting over, will cause much am joy for users!" and stability wise you are MAYBE at Win98. How many program lockups have you had? Freezes? Hangs? After I got away from Linux those things just faded away, like a fart in the wind...

So believe what you want, nobody will be able to refute you, even with evidence that the users don't want you, or that given a choice users run in droves AWAY from you or that OEMs now look at you like the clap or that you have less marketshare than JavaME. Nope, instead just cheer that Linux reached 1% while doing what you do best: Ignoring users, ignoring problems, letting Torvalds Goatse the kernel, and generally acting like asses. Hey, maybe in another 20 years you'll be at 2%!

I put the FACT in front to separate points, as making lists in /. comments is kinda hit or miss right now in my version of Chromium and since anyone that doesn't suck down the kool aid will be labeled a 'ShillTrollAstroturfer(TM)" I might as well point out that most FOSSie bullshit is INDEED bullshit. And I noticed you STILL haven't answered the main question: What are you doing wrong, that your competitors doing right?

Because if you were actually correct and "ItWorksForMe(TM)" applied to more than just you then why has every B&M and OEM ran away from your product like it is the black death? I'll tell you why because your driver model is a picture of a turd with "Fix it yourself LOL!" written underneath. here try to defend the words of Linus Torvalds himself where he says there is NO PLAN for the kernel and he just "lets it grow like a virus". Yeah Linus its called an STD and that kind of Mickey Mouse shit would get you FIRED anywhere else. Can you imagine telling your boss on a multimillion dollar project "Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans! We gonna let it grow like teh clap LOL!"

And let me see if I have your complaint correct: You use an OS which everyone acknowledges is broken which even Ballmer himself said was "a mistake" at one of his speeches, use an even more broken OEM disc filled with trialware garbage, which BTW it is trivial to turn into a "good" (which is a relative term with Vista, aka "WinMe Part Deux") DVD with VLite or any number of freeware tools, and THEN you bitch it doesn't work?

Well I could use a FOSSie meme and say "ItWorksForMe(TM)" but instead I'll just point out you are using an abandoned OS that NO major OEM is putting on their devices now, that most retailers (myself included) wouldn't take a crate of if you gave it to us for free, and which will NEVER be fixed. Throw away WinME II and get Win 7 and you'll have a beautiful experience. Besides isn't that what FOSSies do on the "BiannualDeathMarch(TM)" with Ubuntu?

But its okay, you just keep right on believing there is nothing wrong, and that myself and millions of other B&M stores are avoiding your product because its a "Conspiracy(TM)" while Ignoring the fact that if your product actually worked on bigger than basement scale retailers could increase profits by not having to shell out for Windows licenses, and in the cutthroat world of PCs any money saved would make us better at competing.

You just ignore that Walmart, Staples, Best Buy, hell even little shops like myself have found your product to be a fiddly little bitch, or that I can provide link after link after link showing retailers RUNNING AWAY and users simply not touching it (Be sure to notice in the last link how JAVA ME is actually kicking your ass LOL!) but hey, those are just numbers right?

But I would point out this final bit of wisdom: If your product costs $0, and would save both the B&Ms and OEMs significant money by adopting, yet they refuse to take it over competitors that cost a minimum $100 and $700 respectfully? Then something IS rotten in Denmark friend. If your shit didn't stink then everyone in the business wouldn't be treating it like a turd in the urinal, and going out of their way to avoid it so.

Your product is a complete and total failure, except in those areas a corporation can fuck you hard (and then you thank them for the surprise buttsex) thanks to the TiVo trick, ala damned near every router and other CCC (Cheapo Chinese Crap) and you are so far behind you actually reach 1% and cheer (and it only took 18 years! Wow!).

Meanwhile consumers run away from your product as fast as they can, and tell you in giant letters DO NOT WANT even on products designed around your strengths, and retailers look at you like the black death thanks to all the returns and broken drivers, oh and your great leader says the kernel isn't designed, it grows like a virus LOL! (Yeah Linus, it would be called an STD) and you know what is amazing and sad?

NEVER, not fucking ONCE, does it enter your tiny little mind to even ask the most basic of econ 101 questions, such as "What is my competitors doing right that I'm doing wrong?" Nope, because that would mean admitting your shit sandwich OF FREEDOM was a festering turd, which BTW? It is. Instead you scream shill or astroturfer, which is your version of nigger or spic, for anyone who doesn't suck down the kool aid and wash it down with a heaping dose of RMS cock slobber.

And the part you'll NEVER believe, because it would shatter your tiny little worldview, hiding in your mom's basement eating your Cheetos and thinking if it wasn't for that evil M$ army the world would embrace your precious shit sandwich like the force you love so much? Well guess what sparky, I'm not a shill NOR an astroturfer, I'm in fact a retailer. You know, that group that you constantly whine would carry your shit sandwiches on their shelves? yeah that bunch. And you know WHY we won't carry your rotting bag o' fail? It isn't a conspiracy BTW, it is because we tried your product and we know your lies are just that, LIES.

I tried for nearly FOUR YEARS to find ONE DSITRO, just one mind you, that wouldn't fall apart like a house of old cards when a fat guy farts, just one that would continue to run consistently after updating. Just one mind you? How many did I find? ZERO.Zilch nada squat bumpkiss. Your driver model is a drawing of a pile of shit with "do it yourself LOL!" written underneath, your idea of having software tied to the kernel is frankly laughable if it wasn't so pathetic, your package managers are just band aids on bullet wounds trying to cover up the dependency hell that hangs over everything you do like the Sword of Damocles, shall I go on? Your lack of a stable ABI, which BTW Apple, MSFT, BSD, Solaris, hell even OS fricking 2 has had for like a decade now, means that shopping for devices that will actually work is a game of "hardware roulette" that is more rigged against the consumer than anything in Vegas...

Hell I could do this all day, but why bother. It is like pushing a retard into traffic. Sure it is easy because they are so fucking stupid, but not much in the way of entertainment value, not when I have dozens of top notch AAA games I could be playing, or Netflix, or WMC, or hell washing my socks would be more entertaining than dealing with a FOSSie. BTW do us both a favor before you open your cake hole and check on Linux TM Repo before you chime in, as the horseshit you and the other FOSSies spew has been done so damned many times TM repo actually has all your bullet points down as TMs. Hell I bet whatever you come back with I can match one for one with TMs, such as WorksFo

From TFA:

"Furthermore, Curry said when a highly anticipated game was refused classification, two things could happen â" interest in the game would actually increase, and people would still get the game via importation or piracy."

Will. They. Ever. Learn.?

It's interesting to read what APNIC's own chief scientist thought of IPv4 exhaustion only five years ago. Quotes from that article:

"The death of IPv4 has not really killed the Internet. In fact, far from it, we've managed to make an industry around it. We've already created a business around where we are, not where we want to be. Skype is not a charity and it works in all of this muck. If it couldn't work, complain to me, but as long as it works, I don't see the problem."

and

"Anyone that is a clever economic unit will buy and sell. Anyone with class B addresses will figure out that if they band up behind a NAT, they can sell off all spare addresses. So scarcity is just a pricing function and there will be a market in address compression."

So now APNIC gets 3 out of the last 7 /8 blocks, which I know was always to be expected due to the growth in the APAC region. But one also gets the feeling that several big players are planning to purposefully delay IPv6 adoption as long as humanly possible in order to monetise the hell out of their IPv4 allocations.

Expect the net to become nice big clusterfuck of CGN and other "solutions" in the next few years before everyone finally gives up and migrates to IPv6... assuming the transition actually happens and we don't kiss end-to-end goodbye forever.

I noticed how you just ignored Via, Realtek, every single AIO printer in Walmart, etc etc etc? Care to comment? Oh that's right, you can't because you know the support sucks as well as I do. Want proof? Take the "hairyfeet challenge. Step right up!

Open up three tabs in your browser. go to Walmart.com, Bestbuy.com, and Staples.com. These are the big three when it comes to retail PC peripherals sales. Now in each store you place these four things, which are the big sellers here, and NO RESEARCH!. Remember, you are an average consumer. No cheating! Ready? An all in one printer, a USB Wifi stick, the latest iPod and a USB TV Tuner. Now if you want this simulation to be accurate, buy the cheapest on half the purchases, as most consumers buy on price. Now go to...lets say Ubuntu, go to their forums and see if the twelve items you just "purchased" as three average shoppers works. Go on, I'll wait.

They don't work, do they? I'll wager you won't get a whole cart out of the store without doing research. I'm sure you also avoided lexmark to try to tip the odds in your favor even though a consumer wouldn't know about lexmark support and wouldn't do that. You see, Linux is GREAT for servers and the enterprise markets. It is great because major corporations spend major bucks on making damned sure that server hardware "just works". But they don't give a flying fart about home users. So just like how you saw how Asus is phasing out Linux and even Canonical admits that Linux netbooks suffer higher return rates you will see more companies try Linux and then abandon it.

Why? Is it a conspiracy? Are they all "stupid" as you trollishly called me? Because the stuff that is sold in the above stores don't work in Linux, that's why. And when it don't work they say the PC is "broken" and come wanting their money back. It is just that simple.

So while I truly support Linux as a server OS, and even as a desktop OS for those that are willing to spend the time and effort to research every product and go CLI whenever something goes wrong, the simple fact is that isn't going to fly in the mainstream markets. If you have to do ANY CLI it is a dealbreaker, just as if you can't support the new gadget they just got at Best Buy they will return the PC. I'm sorry, but the average users is not going to be willing to learn CLI or do research on every single purchase. They're just not going to do it because they don't give a flying fart about "free as in freedom" or "the M$FT monopoly" all they care about is does their stuff work, and you are deluding yourself if you think you can get them to change for Linux. And if their consumer level stuff doesn't work your OS is "free as in worthless" and they'll be taking it back for a Windows machine. Sorry Mr FOSSie, but your RDF doesn't work in the face of reality.

Australian Federal Opposition Leader and extreme right-wing conservative Tony Abbott has been vocally opposed to the construction of Australia's National Broadband Network (a national fibre optic network), despite the fact that this position lost them the federal election last year.

Anyway, he is at it again.. using the floods to score cheap political points - http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/372807/floods_show_need_nbn_rethink_abbott/

And public opinion of this stunt isn't good! http://twitter.com/search#search?q=tony%20abbott%20nbn

Not read TFA but wonder whether these are there:
Aleks Krotoski
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/21/austin-heap-haystack-iran Gregg Kiezer
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/21/2329249/Windows-7-Memory-Usage-Critic-Outed-As-Fraud

Found this article here: Looks like the datacenter owner mysteriously disappeared or something?

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/332205/isp_operators_among_19_arrested_cyber-fraud_case/

What, it's 2010 already?!

Reguardless of what they are called (and I'm from the age when they were /dev/tty1 /dev/tty2 ... ) is there in fact charactor devices of some name you can access from an iphone app to make use of these serial ports.

As page 6 of TFA said, "The device is /dev/tty.iap".

Some Australia's seem happy about the 'we are safe' parts.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/363561/updated_internet_industry_australia_backs_new_acta_draft/
As you noted, we are going to get the very worst part of DMCA.
No more consumer protections from the next gen dvd region codes ect.
Be fun to see what Australia tries for a "adequate legal protection and effective legal remedies" effort, could an ISP level filter help?

Well, you're in luck, two fold!
a) I've done the research you couldn't be bothered to (google is so complicated, I know), to find out that there has indeed been an indication of minimum speeds!
a) as pointed out here, satellite and wireless are expected to be 12mbps (at peak usage, so a 'real' 12mbps). I've read a more authoratitive source than that, but I couldn't be bothered doing more research for you. Oh, and finally - I also read somewhere that optical will be cross subsidising satellite and wireless to the extent that Australia wide, you will be paying the same cost for xGB downloads on a 12mbit plan. The only difference between wireless & satellite is that higher bandwidth plans won't be available.

If the pedophiles want to complain that Labor is blocking their access to their pedophilia then let them.

I wish it was only that kind of material that's getting blocked.

Unfortunately it isn't... filtering trials showed that a number of businesses, community support groups, dentists, anti-abortion political sites and even a betting agency were also getting blocked. If the ACMA were accountable for what gets blocked this wouldn't be a problem, but the block list is marked SECRET and they won't even acknowledge whether a given URI or site is in it, let alone allow you to state your case to have it removed. Where will they be allowed to draw the line?

I disagree; NBNCo is not an ISP. I think it is more analogous to the case where Telstra resells access to its network via ADSL.

It's the wrong level to insert a filter at, because the NBN should not know what its traffic means.

Oh, and would you stop with the $1000000000 per household $80 billion dollar DEBT WASTE DEBT hysterics, would you?
The first phase of the NBN pilot came in both ahead of schedule and under budget.

First of all, WTF is it with the jack off font? You think you're hip making the thing look like a bad bash prompt? Second of all my money is not "tied into MSFT" as I give customers what they want instead of trying to force them to do things my way which is what Linux does. Here is my last conversation with a FLOSSie: "My customers do NOT WANT bash prompts and trawling forums! This is a problem!" /FLOSSie/"but CLI is powerful!/ "My customers DO NOT WANT and don't care! Make it simple and easy to fix problems!" /FLOSSie/"If they would only embrace the power of bash/ walks off in disgust at brainwashed FLOSSie

And here I am talking about desktops and the magic bullet problem, and you bring up...servers? Who gives a fuck? Symbian is number 1 on mobile phones! Yay! Doesn't have a damned thing to do with what we are talking about, which is why Linux is sucking on the desktop, how even machines built with Linux strengths in mind still won't sell with Linux, and how OEMs found out the hard way that Linux on the desktop is a deathtrap. I'm not the the only one saying these things by a long shot, yet we get ignored or ridiculed by a group that brags they got 1% while companies walk away in disgust.

It is a good thing the community "supports" Linux, because if it were a company it would be in chapter 11 right now. And don't waste your breath bringing up server companies because we are talking desktops, so stay on topic. You would think that after sitting in dead lasts for years someone would wake up and ask "what are we doing wrong?" but instead of finding out what the problems are and working to correct it we just see the same tired memes about Linux Security and how Linux is more usable and even you yourself trotted out the just use Wine and Linux supports more hardware along with hurling insults! You know why the call them trademarks? Because it is the same tired old shit we hear year after year AFTER YEAR. Nothing gets better, nothing ever changes, Linux still sits in the basement.

I am a businessman, I WANT to sell your product! I want and believe in free market competition! But instead of working to make a better product, we get instead 6 month release schedule (you HONESTLY think any real QA can get done in less than 6 months? Because I got some swamp land in Florida to sell you buddy!) and insults thrown whenever anyone points out the emperor has no clothes. But don't worry, you can keep your elitist attitude and insult throwing. Myself and every other business that has tried selling your product at retail have realized Linux is a dead end and walked away. Walmart, ASUS, Best Buy, Staples, nobody will carry your product. When no American retailers will touch your product, even for free, it is time to take a hard look and see what you are doing wrong. Will anyone do that? Nope they will delude themselves into thinking CLI is bet

Unfortunately you can't make that assumption any more.

Even national telcos, such as Telstra in Australia, are routing all of their landline and mobile voice and data telecommunications over IP networks (and have done so since 2007).

These are pretty good.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php?id=760310963

There's a link from that, too, but I don't see any specifics on this mechanical disassembly process.

I presume you mean this link:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/267964/aussie_computer_recycling_plant_saves_20_000_tonnes_e-waste
"The Sims recycling plant, opened Wednesday in Sydney, will reduce monitors and circuit boards into basic components such aluminium, copper, silver and gold to be shipped to overseas sites for further processing."

"The plant uses eddy current systems and magnets to separate components including gold, silver and copper once primary compacting machines have reduced computers to about the size of a thumb."

How specific do you expect from a media article?

I really hate to be the bearer of bad new, but ASUS is getting out of the Linux Netbook game. I'm willing to bet my last USD it is because like MSI they saw 400% returns on their Linux product.

You have to give the people what they want. The people want to walk into Best Buy/Staples/Walmart and drop anything in their cart and have it work in Linux. I hate to again be the bearer of bad new but AU is about as opposite as you can get from the USA. here very little works with Linux. Lexmark? BWa ha ha! Those USB TV and Wifi tuners? In your dreams! Those webcams? Maybe, but since most of the cameras "features" are actually in the software, which won't work on Linux, you end up with a camera that only does 1/5th of what is advertised. Not good.

This is why Linux got slaughtered on netbooks, which were practically designed for it. It wasn't a conspiracy, with MSFT paying everybody off, it is because geeks don't think like consumers. As an OEM, which one of these is easier? Trying to walk the user through a huge list of arcane Unix commands and hoping they don't mistype and bork the whole system, or telling them "Google name of device XP driver". I know which one I prefer, because it saves me time and time is money.

I know Linux is supposed to be "free as in beer and freedom" but if you are an OEM selling to Joe and Jane average it will bankrupt you. Sorry, but it is true. There are still way too many devices that don't work, or that will work after endless hoops but with reduced functionality, simple things that would help the user such as "runas" not being included because Linux geeks feel more at home in bash than the GUI, and even the most simple problem there is rarely a default tool to get the job done, and most of the time your answer will be "open up bash and type". When you see that you might as well say "Please go have someone put Windows on it for you. Thanks" because that is what happens. Geeks don't get that for MSFT and Apple users there is NO CLI in their OS. None at all. They have never even used start>run before. To them there is only the GUI. And I'm sorry but Linux just isn't ready for them yet. No Sale.

I think that typically new, fancy gases are used. I've seen FM200 (http://www2.dupont.com/FE/en_US/products/FM200.html) used. For example, Internode apparently uses both FM200 (triggered by smoke) and water (triggered by heat). There's a slideshow with some info buried somewhere inside about it here: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/306254/inside_internode_data_centre

I believe that it's pretty expensive though, and that Internode facility is a very small DC compared to some of the ones discussed in the article above, so I'm not sure what they'd use.

Oh, of course established companies never release flawed software, right? Their ActiveX control does not have to be malicious in itself, it is sufficient if it tears holes into your defense for others to abuse. ActiveX needs to die a very quick death already. And can we please club that idea that a browser, JavaScript and a bit of fairy-dust can fully replace any local application regardless of specific implications out of people's heads?

But you did research before making hardware purchases, yes? You see, there is the catch. Joe and Jane Public NEVER do research on anything less expensive than a car. They walk into best buy and go "Oohhh sale!" and add it to their cart.

Here, try the "hairyfeet challenge" and see for yourself. Open up three tabs in your browser. go to Walmart.com, Bestbuy.com, and Staples.com. These are the big three when it comes to retail PC peripherals sales. Now in each store you place these three things, which are the big sellers here, and NO RESAERCH!. Remember, you are an average consumer. No cheating! Ready? An all in one printer, a USB Wifi stick, and a USB TV Tuner. Now if you want this simulation to be accurate, buy the cheapest, as most consumers buy on price. Now go to...lets say Ubuntu, go to their forums and see if the nine items you just "purchased" as three average shoppers works. Go on, I'll wait.

They don't work, do they? I'll wager you won't get a whole cart out of the store without doing research. I'm sure you also avoided lexmark to try to tip the odds in your favor even though a consumer wouldn't know about lexmark support and wouldn't do that. You see, Linux is GREAT for servers and the enterprise markets. It is great because major corporations spend major bucks on making damned sure that server hardware "just works". But they don't give a flying fart about home users. So just like how you saw how Asus is phasing out Linux and even Canonical admits that Linux netbooks suffer higher return rates you will see more companies try Linux and then abandon it. Why? because the stuff that is sold in the above stores don't work in Linux, that's why. And when it don't work they say the PC is "broken" and come wanting their money back. It is just that simple.

So while I truly support Linux as a server OS, and even as a desktop OS for those that are willing to spend the time and effort to research every product and go CLI whenever something goes wrong, the simple fact is that isn't going to fly in the mainstream markets. If you have to do ANY CLI it is a dealbreaker, just as if you can't support the new gadget they just got at Best Buy they will return the PC. I'm sorry, but the average users is not going to be willing to learn CLI or do research on every single purchase. They're just not going to do it because they don't give a flying fart about "free as in freedom" or "the M$FT monopoly" all they care about is does their stuff work, and you are deluding yourself if you think you can get them to change for Linux. And if their consumer level stuff doesn't work your OS is "free as in worthless" and they'll be taking it back for a Windows machine. Sorry, No Sale.

Do you realize where you just made a mistake? Where your plan bit the dust? Hmmm? Here, I'll point it out to you-"Just one open driver,and we'll take care of the rest, forever." Do you see the problem now? This points out the second problem that is forcing Linux to stay a tiny niche, even though I honestly believe that with these two problems fixed it would be an excellent OS for those that simply surf and watch Youtube.

But you see, here is the problem- You expect everybody in the world to play your game. And they are NOT going to do it. If you wait around for 100 million years, they are NOT going to release their specs. As another user pointed out Linux has been out for 15 YEARS now. if it was going to happen it frankly would have done so by now. The world doesn't play by the GPL. You will NEVER get Lexmark and all the other bazillion hardware manufacturers to release their specs to you, or give you open GPL drivers to where you can hack away. It is NOT going to happen. Ever.

Accept it. Accept the fact that the hardware manufacturers will give you a binary blob or you get nothing at all. Accept that you will never get Adobe to release Photoshop under the GPL, you will never see Quickbooks, or the software that just came with your digital camera, or any of the bazillion other pieces of software that the customers consider "mission critical" and will not accept your OS if it doesn't work, released under GPL. Ever.

What all these companies and manufacturers of all the hardware that the world uses WILL do is meet you halfway. If you design a set of standard underpinnings that are the same across the Linux landscape, and that stay backwards compatible so that they can "write once, use forever" like they do on Windows they WILL release binary blob drivers and binary applications that support your OS. Because all businesses like making money and like having lots of customers. if all they have to do is add a "Linux 32/64" folder to the Windows ones to add you as a customer? or simply make a SINGLE version of Photoshop and know that this version will work until they are ready to release version 5 or whatever? They WILL support you.

But you have to meet them halfway. You can NOT demand "open specs!" on everything, because you can see where that has gotten you. As a retailer I can tell you there is a REASON why ASUS is phasing out all Linux products. it is because their primary market is home users and none of the devices in Walmart or Staples or Best Buy work in your OS. And you can NOT do it alone. You need those companies to write the drivers for you, or you will simply fail. There is simply too much hardware out there, with more coming every single day. But if you refuse to bend, if you refuse to accept binary blobs, then you are doomed to stay a teeny tiny niche. I'm sorry, but that is just reality.

And I apologize for the length, but as a retailer who has put Linux through its paces I truly believe that with application and driver support Linux has a real shot. I can foresee Linux easily taking a good chunk of those that use their PC for browsing and running a few applications. But if they can't shop at Walmart without research? If they can't print or run Quickbooks or get their new Wifi USB stick to work without jumping through CLI hoops? Then all the GPL freedom in the world ain't gonna matter, because they will never use your OS. They will take it back and get a box with Windows on it. Sorry, but that is just the way it is. I don't make the rules, I just support the customers.

Asus is just doing this to make a buck selling the EE PCs that have Windows on them. They'll still sell the Linux ones but they're expanding the market to Windows-only people who are afraid of Linux

No, they've said they are likely to be phasing out Linux on their netbooks. Only 5% of their current netbooks ship with Linux.

Oh that's not the best part for the Linux guys, they are also phasing out Linux across the board, from the cheapest EEE to the top of the line laptops. Even though I am a Windows user I think this sucks for everybody.

It sucks because with competition to keep them from sitting on their lazy asses their wouldn't BE any Netbooks, because Vista(or as I call it, the bloated piggie) wouldn't run on it. I also wouldn't have this nice Windows 7 that isn't a bloated piggie. So Linux guys, you do have my sympathy without the slightest hint of sarcasm. As a believer in the free market the loss of a valid competitor will always be a bad thing. While I personally believe that Linux isn't ready for the home consumer because of the lack of drivers for the cheapo stuff like Lexmark, for the business class and enterprise these "baby laptops" could have been an easy and secure way to stay in touch with the home office on the go if marketed correctly.

After all, Xandros(which the EEE was running) had excellent support for Windows AD and Exchange, while the lame ass XP Home was crippled and couldn't support business tech. Also having Linux out there on a major laptop manufacturer's product list helps to bring home the need to support it to the cheapo stuff manufacturers like Lexmark, which in turn would have further helped competition. So Linux guys, this is truly shitty news and am I truly sorry to see one more choice removed from you. Maybe somebody needs to release an Ndiswrapper for all those cheapo Lexmark and other all in ones, so linux would be a better fit for the home consumers? After all if you could defeat the Winmodem and the Winwireless, with all those funky ass chips, surely you can defeat the Winprinter too.

Hmmmm.....Let me translate that into English. Not my fault, shitty coders, all companies suck that can't right teh awsemez Linux code, etc. funny how the have NO problem whatsoever with writing Windows drivers that work year after year after year. Hmmmm...usually when someone goes around screaming "it's not my fault!" to every problem, you know what? It really is. As my Grandpa used to say(RIP) "excuses are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink". Will those excuses make my customers printers work? How about their scanner? Fax? USB Tuner? Your excuses won't make the hardware go. if the hardware don't go, nobody will use the OS,okay? it is really simple like that.

And your "evidence" is some blogger in Australia whining "teh M$FT is cheatin!". That is you evidence? You have to be kidding right? You want to know why Linux has bombed on the Netbook, how about we take the word of Canonical, the creators of Ubuntu instead? Quote-"We don't know what the XP return rates are. But I will say that the return rate is above normal for netbooks that offer open-source operating systems," But we do know what the return rate for Linux compared to Windows is for MSI, it is 400%. Do you think ANY corp can survive with a 400% return rate? Or how about ASUS, who started the Netbook market with the EEE? What do you say to the fact that phasing out Linux across the board? Are you going to claim "teh evils M$FT backed up teh moneyz truk!".

Please. We know why they are doing this, it is because the market has spoken with 400% return rates that your OS isn't ready for home users. And you know what, it really isn't. you can't fix even the simplest problems without CLI or editing config files for really simple stuff like setting the resolution on a monitor, less than 15% of the devices sold in Walmart, Staples, and Best Buy have any support in your OS AT ALL, and due to the chaotic nature of the Linux underpinnings writing drivers that will last long term without divulging your source or constantly rewriting them is virtually impossible.

So why as a retailer would I want to sell your OS again? So I can put every sale of a Linux system in escrow in case they return it? So I can refuse to sell machines without the customers buying a lifetime support contract for said machine? So I can stock countless printers, all in ones, TV tuners, and a whole other bunch of stuff I don't want to deal with just for the "privilege" of hoping I can sell a bundle deal and having my gut tied in knots every time there is a new Ubuntu release for fear that half of my devices won't work anymore? Tell you what, if Linux is such a great OS, why don't you sell some Linux boxes? Ads in most papers are totally free. And you Linux guys are all about the DIY thing, right? But you won't and we both know why. It is because nearly every box you sell will be returned by an angry customer wanting their money back when their new printer from Staples doesn't work

. And THIS is why Linux will stay a niche. Not because of the evil M$FT, not because nobody will give your OS a chance, it is because they have and have found that for home users Linux sucks. I'm sorry, but your support for home gear is piss poor at best. I don't make reality, I just live in it. And all the excuses in the world won't give you an extra 1% market share. But hey, there is always next year, right?

Sorry to replay to myself, but i am so tired of seeing linux users marking me down when they have NO way to dispute what I am saying. Comparing Linux to OSX is like comparing a 1979 AMC International to a brand new Ferrari. With the Ferrari you are paying top dollar, but you have plenty of dealerships to buy supported gear from. With Linux, just like the AMC, the ONLY support you will get is from other owners. The only difference is the AMC owner doesn't deride you for owning a Ford.

Type in "Windblowz" into Google and see how many forum posts you find deiriding a Windows user. Post after post after post. Why is that? Because there is a very large and vocal part of the Linux community that WANTS Linux to stay a niche. They consider it "leet" and "roxorz!" that Linux is difficult from a usability standpoint and takes research for every little hardware purchase. Just as many a Mac owner would leave in mass if Macs became cheap like Dells, so do the "hardcore" Linux users want to make sure that Windows "luzerz" don't play in their sandbox.

But don't worry, hardcore Linux users! The major corps have already seen what a support nightmare Linux is with its 400% return rate and are abandoning Linux. Case in point, ASUS, who started the whole Netbook craze with the EEE running Linux, has stated they are phasing out Linux completely. So have no fear, with a total lack of support your OS can remain "leet" and have nothing to do with those "nasty" Windows users. Enjoy your 1%! Meanwhile OSX and Windows 7 will give the consumers what they want, which is an OS with drivers and no CLI or research required.

Oh and feel free to mod me down ALL you want! Have fun! I have enough karma to burn, and I am tired of all this "Linux is ready for the home users" BS when practically nothing being sold in any of the major retailers will actually work in your OS. So unless your "home users" have servers with enterprise network printers I really don't think they are going to be going Linux anytime this decade, do you?

This idiotic plan is not killed and dead. The Labor government in general, and Senator Stephen Conroy in particular, have been taken aback by the strength of the opposition. The article noted in the summary only covers some of the incompetent answers given to hard questioning by the main Opposition party and one of the minority parties.

Trials are still being underway involving 4 tiny ISPs, one medium ISP, one Christadelphian ISP and one large ISP majority owned by Singtel.

There is no engineering, vendor neutral specification giving trial design criteria or testing methodology as the basis for the trials. There is no requirement for the ISPs to disclose which method of censorship they selected. The ISPs have been supported to the tune of $AU300,000 but there is still a $AU887,000 consultancy contract for the testing and reporting of on a system to block up to 10,000 URLs. The IWF annual report lists between 1100-1300 sites blocked by their system. Rumour has it that much of the testing in the small ISPs is using equipment from the same censorware vendor but this is not confirmed as several censorware vendors have been lobbying for the windfalls. Watchdog, using the NetClean system was involved in some separate testing undertaken by another ISP, Exetel. The Exetel trial received a great deal of criticism in the Australian internet community and Exetel customers. The trial has not been cancelled and neither has the testing consultancy.

Any assumption that the scheme will disappear is premature.

A list of 1000s of banned films and publications is still in existence. The censorship regime has become more and more repressive over the last 10 years. Realistically the entire basis of censorship needs serious review. It is managed by more than one government authority under several different pieces of legislation. The proposed censorship of the internet is under the control of the telecommunications authority which is yet another government authority.

You would have to try very hard to find a more incompetent approach to anything to do with IT, networking or civil liberties all in the same package.

or just use foxit

same bug

The claim is usually an open invitation to reduce the "unbreakable" object to ashes.

Unbreakable, not unburnable...

Inflammable Means Flammable? What A Country!

Here's the relevant snippet from TFA:

Centrelink documents reported the hackers cannot break the PLAID protocol because it uses two cryptographic algorithms in its scrambling process in rapid succession -- typically less than a quarter of a second -- whereas other systems use a single algorithm.

"PLACID is the only system that preserves the privacy of the cardholder from ID leakage. Other systems 'talk' from card to mainframe using easily captured personal information and unique identifiers in the ID-authentication process," the documents reported. Centrelink claims hackers cannot read query data between the terminals and smartcards even if it is intercepted because of the scrambling feature.

Does anyone know enough about PLACID and double encryption to know if double encryption is being used meaningfully here, or if it is still vulnerable to a MITM attack?

There really aren't very many more "killer apps" to be invented. This is completely opinion, but I think SharePoint is going to be Microsoft's last hurrah. It is their last chance to get organizations tied into a single, unified respository for all of their content. SharePoint is like a Wiki on steroids, but it doesn't necessarily need to be a proprietary Microsoft technology. They have the benefit of being able to easily integrate their Office Suite with SharePoint. As a proprietary vendor, they have the benefit of being able to issue edicts to their developers and align a lot of resources toward a common goal. Accomplishing the same thing in OSS land would take a lot of coordination and would probably require an outfit like IBM or the like to develop a competing project.

Competing OSS products already abound.

Alfresco is probably the pick of them.

http://www.alfresco.com/

Does everything that Sharepoint does, but does it for free, with no CALs, and so that you can run Windows, Mac or Linux as desktop clients. OpenOffice has extensions for using it with Alfresco.

Linux application support is getting better every day. Just take a look at Zimbra. Now, I'm not about to scrap MY Exchange servers and migrate my users to Zimbra. But if I were a small business owner and I needed email for my company, I wouldn't even be looking at the cost of Exchange licenses.

OpenChange also is on its way.

http://www.openchange.org/

There is also Citadel to consider.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php

Samba 4 will support Active Directory and, of course, be a capable file server.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/273515/active_directory_comes_linux_samba_4

All free (no cost) and Free (freedom) as well. All of these OSS solutions will support Windows, Mac or Linux desktop clients, or any mixture of them. There is absolutely no need to pay any more for server software or server access licenses.

Enjoy. Prosper.

Except that you can only sorta check your email or do word processing on Linux.

When I last used Linux I had no problem checking my email or doing word processing. That was about 1 1/2 years ago and things have gotten better. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro and I do the same stuff on it. Actually the past few days I've been researching how to install Ubuntu on it to dualboot Leopard and Ubuntu.

Thunderbird does IMAP ok, but IMAP is not a replacement for all that Exchange does.

So? Thunderbird works for me and I don't need to use Exchange. When I do need something like it there's OpenChange and others that are at least partially compatible.

So if your netbook is just for reading then fine. If you ever think you're getting some work done on the airplane you're wrong. * I mean the business side of work not actual work like writing software.

I'm not sure what you mean but this, writing or programming software isn't a business? Of course I wouldn't want to use a netbook for that. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro and though I carry it with me a lot there's nothing smaller I'd want, bigger but not smaller.

Falcon

"I use Fedora for historical reasons."
"I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster, I switched to GNOME."
"I got the update through Fedora, and there was a mismatch from KDE 3 to KDE 4.0. The desktop was not as functional, and it was just a bad experience for me. I'll revisit it when I reinstall the next machine, which tends to be every six to eight months."

Open source identity: Linux founder Linus Torvalds