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Helped? It could have caused Katrina.

"Making a quantity of TATP sufficient to bring down an airplane is not quite as simple as ducking into the toilet and mixing two harmless liquids together."
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channe lid=80&contentid=3831&page=2 Summary:

Create concentrated Hydrogen Peroxide without blowing up your secret laboratory

Bring Sulfuric acid, H2O2 & acetone on board, keeping them cool with frozen gel packs

Also needed: a thermometer, a large beaker, a stirring rod, and a medicine dropper.

Secertly schlep all this to the WC

For the next couple hours add acid, drop by drop, while stirring constantly

ignore flight attendants banging on WC door asking about the terrible odor.

Hope you brought enough gel packs, if the solution gets too hot, you get a weak explosive or even a small explosion that probably kills/injures only you

Allow to dry an hour or so

ignore flight attendants continued banging on WC door

While a slapdash concoction will explode, it's unlikely to do more than blow out a few windows, you need enough quality, quantity and potency to bring down the plane.

It seems a much better solution would be to restrain anyone who spends more than 30 minutes in the WC.

Odd how quickly you come to defend an un-cited site when you didn't do much research on the matter. The fact is, I found that same list, verbatim, on multiple sites:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channe lid=31&contentid=3945&page=2 (which attributes it to Rense)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/usa_vote_facts.html (which attributes to Nightweed)

http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2004/12/19/20_am azing_facts_about_voting_in_the_usa.php (which doesn't give a source, only that it has been seen "going around")

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2006/07 /20_amazing_fact.html (which has an unsourced version without links and one with links sourced to Nightweed)

http://www.coastalpost.com/04/12/02a.htm (without links and attributed to Bob Rowe)

http://www.comicpress.com/ElectionFiasco.htm (verbatim post, unsourced)

http://www.guerrillafunk.com/thoughts/doc000023.ht ml (attributed to Angry Girl/Nightweed and Bob Rowe)

http://www.argusfest.org/ (unsourced, but verbatim)

And on and on and on....

Many do attribute to Nightweed and many do not. Since lists such as these are usually somewhat viral in nature and distribution, original authorship is often difficult if not impossible to determine. However, if the original author is indeed Angry Girl/Nightweed, then my thanks to her for compiling the list.

Does this mean next time they want to pull a 9/11 move, it will be easier or harder? These criminals need to go to jail. I don't think we should be shutting down our sky coordination system under the current regime. Is regime the right word for when there isn't a valid election?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?Channe lID=31
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa rd.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1108892&mes g_id=1127482

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040731 213239607
http://www.vote.org/911/
http://standdown.net/

So, um, yeah, back on subject:

Hurray!

Well, This bill will get rubber stamped PASSED! Faster than the Patriot Act.

Making free speech a crime must have something to do with silencing
the people speaking out against the Prison Camps being set up in New Jersey.

After all, you can't speak out about what the government is doing to citizens (and non-citizens),
if those who speak out get locked up.

Pass One more law: Make it illegal for prisoners to post on public web sites,
and those people who vanish will never be heard from again.

Then the military-industrial complex can work freely with
the police prison-labor camps without having to deal with 'thoughtful citizens'.

Individualism is Evil.
Obey the State.
The State is Good.

Bush Speaks to God.
God told Bush to invade and destroy two countries (so far).

God is Good, Bush is Good.
Obey the God. Obey the Bush.
Thinking for oneself is Bad.
Obey and be Good.

Link to article with more detail and a pic

There is a lot of info that should be blocked,
Like this:
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?Channe lID=44

We don't want the people getting the wrong ideas,
or any ideas for that matter.

But it is true that they are stockpiling WMDs and occupying Palestinian land. What about the UN resolutions on those topics? It is far too easy to claim anti-semitism and basically give Israel immunity from all UN resolutions.

I agree that FGM needs to be condemned, but then there should also be UN resolutions against male circumcision of babies that involves sucking the blood from a freshly circumcised baby's penis. Here is a picture on a not so good site (notice the domain name). I too thought that claims of this practice were anti-semitic bullshit... until I read all of the reputable news reports, CNN. Hell circumcising males using a medical instrament as opposed to a rabbi's mouth should also be prohibited, unless there is an urgent medical reason for doing so (none of that "it helps keep it clean crap", we don't cut our ears off do we) or the person is an adult and consents.

When someone as prominent and as much an annoyance to the coporate capitalist power structure as Richard Stallman has a nearly fatal accident we SHOULD start asking if there is a conspiracy to murder him.

The free software movement is in the crosshairs. Why do you think software patents have become such an issue recently? Did SCO come up with the idea of its copyright attack on Linux on its own all of a sudden? Some investor immediately gave it the cash infusion it needed to persue the lawsuit, recall (BayStar etc.) Was it SCO, by itself, that got the De Toqueville Institute to issue an article questioning the originality of Linux? In fact a lot of "think tanks" have been piling on the free software movement.

Free software is a loose cannon, the normal mechanisms that keep sources of consumer products and innovation from stepping on the toes of governments and governments' interests don't work with free software.

How happy do you think the United States is that free software has given China and countries like it an operating system which is guaranteed free of any CIA / NSA backdoors?

For christs sakes, how fucking naive do you have to be, of course they are going to start killing leaders of the free software movement.

I hope RMS isn't himself so naive and starts taking precautions (for all the good that will do him if the CIA wants him dead).

Some other highly suspicious accidents:
Microbiologists http://www.rense.com/general20/mic.htm
Free software authors (google translation from German) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F %2Fwww.debian.org%2FNews%2F2004%2F20040515&langpai r=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&prev=%2Flanguage_too ls
Alan Gibbs, founder of TruVote (electronic voting machines) http://conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid= 31&contentid=1110&page=1

Forgot their photo ID

Forgot to register

Were too confused by the ballot

I fail to see how this could have anything to do with Bush "buying" the election.

we've got Katherine Harris and we've got the supreme Court and oh yeah we've got the Governor of Florida who just happens to be the First Retard's brother

Katherine Harris and the US Supreme court enforced the laws as they were written. And by calling the President names, I guess you don't really try to hide your bias.

We could go on with how the war on drugs disenfranchised some hundreds of thousands of blacks thus preventing them from voting, in violation of the Constitution

You mean the war on drugs that Clinton increase spending by 10% each year on? I guess he was trying to buy the election for Bush as well.

we could talk about how recounts were illegally obstructed and in some cases denied.

Maybe you don't remember that it was Gore who was limiting recounts to 3 counties where he thought he could gain the most votes, and it was Gore who was trying to block absentee ballots that were perfectly valid according to Florida state law.

As to the Nobel Prize, after reading a biography on Einstein, I kind of get the feeling that it was an 'old boys club'. Maybe it's changed. But the way it worked then was sure you have to very smart, and contributed significantly to science and mankind, but if they didn't like you, no matter what you did you wouldn't win. Einstein only won one Nobel. He should have won several, but he was Jewish. When he did win, it was after being nominated literally about 10 or 20 times, and he actually didn't win the Nobel for relativity either. ;-) It was for the photoelectric effect!

Anyway, I did look up the number of medical Nobel laureates over the last 33 years. 45 were American (of which one actually grew up and studied in Canada but researched in the U.S.) and 32 were from (predominantly) Western Europe. So that's about 58% from the States and 42% from Europe (57/43 if you count the Canadian ;-). Considering the populations are roughly equal, I would say the fact that the U.S. spends so much more on medicine than anyone else, makes up the difference. So, on the Nobel level, there is a case. But there are more than a few discoveries made elsewhere (an 8% swing to even up). Enough to say that the U.S. system isn't overwhelmingly advantageous. Maybe the large European influence is a helping influence on the Americans :-).

I think the biggest advantage is that the U.S. can work as a single block of near 300 million people, whereas Europe, while being about the same size, is fragmented. I think this lets more money be focused in the U.S. (don't ask me why). In any case, I am glad there are smart people out there doing research. And as an aside, I just checked, it was 1996 not 1991 (Peter C. Doherty, Australia, Rolf M. Zinkernagel, Switzerland... from the Nobel web site).

I think that the reason you don't hear in the U.S. about others coming up with discoveries is that the American news media is the about the most biased and slanted that I have seen in the free world. (I am not trying to troll here, I have literally circumnavigated the globe, and have seen quite a few places so can make a pretty informed opinion on this... I think... and that's my opinion.)

The thing is, America likes to blow its own horn. And there is nothing inherantly wrong with that... as the saying goes, it's a sad dog that can't wag its own tail. And I do think America has a lot to be proud of. Including a lot of good science. I sometimes like to say to people who exhibit anti-Americanism (including people I know in Canada... which pisses them off), "so, know anyone who's walked on the moon lately?" ( This doesn't work with conspiracy freaks) I know in this thread that some might think I am being anti American, but it's not that. It's this democratic free speech and discussion thing. I think it can be made better! :-)

However, I do find that when America blows its own horn, it often is so loud it can't hear the contributions played by others. That is, unless the contribution helps back an American point somewhere... like in Iraq when they needed support from England and Italy... and even then, when is the last time you heard about how England is helping in Iraq? They are still there. (BTW, I personally am glad Sadam's gone, but Rumsfeld the weasal should be fire

Another article by Bev Harris: Diebold Voting Machine Fraud in Georgia. The Seattle Times article notes criticism of Harris for posting stories at web sites like Scoop and Conspiracy Planet, but says apparently her information is reliable.

Exactly how does the fact the government *might* use MS Passport on some of it's websites equate to MS Passport becoming the national ID??
/. has stooped to a new low in it's sensationalistic headlines.