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Re:Obvious Reason
Turns out that's a steaming pile, who knew eh. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
I can't imagine a more accurate and trustworthy source on this subject than the Daily Mail, but that's only because The Onion hasn't covered it yet.
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Re:Obvious Reason
I mean, face it, men are just more willing to be the trolls and make life miserable for each other. Women see that and avoid the whole issue altogether.
Turns out that's a steaming pile, who knew eh. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
They simply see what happens as basically a bunch of horny teenagers with ragers going on, and simply steer clear to avoid the trouble.
Too bad you don't know any actual female gamers: http://www.pokket.tv/wp/wp-con...
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Re:Her work
Citation Provided thanks google A bit harder to find info on Quinn but I guess that's not really surprising considering the implications to "journalists".
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Re:Just tell them
White knight to the rescuuuue! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
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Re:Feedback loops
Except for Jim Hansen, highly respected researcher and climatologist...
See also Runaway greenhouse effect...
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Re:I give up
Society is collectively out of their damn minds. Pretty soon sneezing in public will almost certainly be considered a biological weapon attack, because Ebola!!!...arrest and solitary him immediately!
Not sneezing itself, but saying "bless you" when someone else sneezes will get you suspended, but shutter to think what would happen if someone said "god is great" when someone sneezed...
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Re:The real crime here
Nah, the real crime here is "not good looking'. Bear with me, hear me out:
Attractive people are known to get a lot of breaks in life, higher wages, etc. Philip Danks was just a guy who was not too easy on the eyes, scrabbling to earn a living.
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Re:Here's the interesting paragraph
Putin took land.
No, he didn't.
Putin stole Crimea.
No, he didn't.
Even hate it.
Your hate clouds your mind. Are you, by chance, from Poland as well?
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Re:Benjamin Franklin said onceIronically the Daily Mail, who are normally an ultra-right, police-supporting newspaper in the UK, have actually condemned the police's statement that merely viewing is an offence.
There would also be no public interest in prosecuting a someone for viewing if they didn't intend to promote IS. It would be absurd. So for the Met to say that viewing a video in and of itself could constitute an offence seems to me to be far from reality - Barrister Adam Wagner
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Re:This is ridiculous.
The real sad part is that the shitheads didn't try and hijack Southwest flights instead of American and Delta. Southwest passengers already had killed one guy for trying to hijack a plane before 9/11.
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The religion of peace
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Re:Vitamin D deficiency; he needs to supplement
Good question... Maybe the roof is sloped?
BTW, I just saw this old article which suggests Assange has a "sunlamp", but as in my other comments, I can wonder if it is good enough for adequate vitamin D production?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"The fugitive has just a sunlamp, a running machine and internet connection in the threadbare room inside the ground-floor apartment in Knightsbridge."A comment here suggests Ecuador only rents a few offices from the Columbian embassy, so maybe they don't control enough contiguous space to get Assange to the roof?
http://www.talkleft.com/story/...
"They are saying the Assange hasn't seen light since he got there, so I assume no roof access, and judging from the vehicle traffic, it doesn't even appear to have a garage. He's sleeping on an air mattress in someone's office. I can't find the link, but I read that Ecuador only occupies a couple offices in the building, basically renting space from the Colombian embassy."And:
http://boards.straightdope.com...
"The "B" implies that the embassy occupies one of the floors, not the entirety of number 3. Which floor depends on how they are labelling them. The usual way in the UK would be for the ground floor to be plain "3", then the next floor up "3A" etc. Now, it looks like this building has a mews level, so who knows, it may just be the one floor above ground level, rather than the second."So, it seems possible the Ecuadoran embassy subpart of the building has no roof access.
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Re: The problem with the all robotic workforce ide
> That's utter bullshit; the so-called poor today are better off than the rich were a century ago.
Really? You want to argue that these folks are better off then Carnegie and Rockefeller were in 1914?
There is definitely the smell of bullshit in the air.
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I can see a large false positive rate
People on the way to the dentist, or a job interview, or even a first date might get called in. At the same time Muslims take great pains to brutalise and desensitise their kids so they will be less likely to show stress.
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interior and exterior photos
Here's a photo from the cave floor.
And another from the surface showing the grate the park system has put over the opening for safety. But you can see if you were an animal running along that this would be a rather sudden an unexpected plummet.
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Re:to save others googling
You can simulate this guy by 2030 then.
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Re:Not a private police force
"Ok, so would you have an issue with "universal jurisdiction" if the Met did this, because its exactly the same..."
Yes I have a problem with universal jurisdiction regardless, but thus far the met doesn't seem to have quite the habit the City of London police do in just randomly turning up on the doorsteps of other police authorities to waste their time for the City of London police's interest. This is even more pertinent given that the whole reason the current government insisted we have elected police chiefs was to give us even more say in local police authorities priorities. What's the point in that if City of London police can just turn up in Yorkshire and demand police in Yorkshire help them with their waste of time copyright investigations? It benefits Yorkshire less than police from Yorkshire going to the City to arrest bankers guilty of criminal negligence and outright fraud would but when's the last time you saw say West Yorkshire, or South Yorkshire police forces sticking their nose into the city? If Cameron wants more localism then the City of London police need to fuck off and stick to crimes in their square mile - their problems are not the priority for the rest of us, we've got more important things to deal with than copyright infringement like rape, burglary and so on and so forth.
"As for oversight, did you miss the part of my post where I say that the CoL Police answers to HMIC, just like the Met and every other police force in the UK?"
I don't care who they answer to if they're not being held to the same standard which they most definitely appear not to be.
"And id love for you to back up your claims about them being corrupt - its easy to throw accusations around, but I see no proof offered by you."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
I can't tell if you've just missed the barrage of stories over the years of City of London police corruption or if you're vehemently defending them because you have some vested interest in them, but either way it's disturbing that you couldn't do a simple search on the issue. One might wonder why a police force that covers little more than a square mile, has been so embroiled in corruption scandals that it's got a whole website dedicated to it:
http://www.cityoflondonpolicec...
Far larger police organisations with far more staff covering far bigger areas do not have anywhere near the levels of corruption and corruption accusations that the City of London police have, so your defence of them is misguided, it's very clearly obvious that something is wrotten in the City of London police force.
"Your post is nothing more than more bullwhip regarding this particular police force."
Right back at you, I've provided my evidence, I'd ask you to provide yours, but given that that's impossible precisely because your arguments are in fact bullshit then I guess we'll have to leave it there. I'd be intrigued to know why you're so keen to defend them, not that I expect honest disclosure from you.
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Re:Small-scale, real-time.
Sounds like you're doing wind power wrong over there in america. Here in the UK, wind power is still expensive (although comparable to other power technologies) but we're improving the tech and getting much better at it. I'm not saying it's the only answer, but it's worth doing in the right locations.
It's also worth doing because wind power really annoys some people (especially Daily Mail readers): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2713830/Lunacy-sea-As-Ministers-agree-world-s-biggest-wind-farm-Brighton-Britain-succumbed-catastrophic-folly.html/ -
Re:Up to 25 critical facts on current Ebola Outbre
Here is one of the best articles on the Ebola outbreak that I have found todate, it covers most of the fact points, while focused on the recent outbreak, enjoy. Has a map of the world showing countries involved with current outbreak.
- ~ Hong Kong woman quarantined when she fell ill after returning from Kenya
- ~ Expert claims panic over death of U.S. man in Nigeria is 'justified'
- ~ He warned the spread of Ebola could become a global pandemic
- ~ Health campaigners petition U.S. drug authorities to fast-track potential cure
- ~ Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond declares disease is 'very serious threat'
- ~ He will chair an emergency meeting on how to boost defences
- ~ British airlines are also on 'red alert' for cases of the deadly virus
- ~ Man with 'feverish' symptoms tested for deadly Ebola at Birmingham hospital
- ~ He had travelled into Midlands from Benin, Nigeria via France when he fell ill
- ~ Charing Cross Hospital staff also feared man had Ebola symptoms this week
- ~ No cases have been confirmed in UK but 672 people have died in West Africa
- ~ Warning issued to GPs, A&E departments and all NHS trusts across the UK
- ~ Symptoms include high fever, bleeding and damage to the nervous system
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Re:Why the Australians?
I think of Abbot as a wannabe Putin. But without the power. Or the looks. Or the ability to kill someone with his bare hands. Or shoot tigers. Or rescue babies and dolphins. But asides from all that, he's just like Putin.
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Re: Men are obsolete
We have been growing babies outside the womb for 30 years and every woman is born with thousands of eggs ready for harvesting http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea...
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Re:Oh, hi there, threat of extinction
I don't think we are quite there yet... China still only has enough nukes to ward off any hawks.
Well, how many nukes does it take, exactly, to destroy a country? Realistically, all anyone has is enough nukes to ensure MAD....it's not like the US is able to bomb Russia without retribution. Estimates of China's stockpile vary, up to 3000 warheads. China is secretive and everyone is just guessing what they actually have. Any number you see is just a guess.
In any case, it's pointless to talk about arms-reduction without being aware that one important country is aiming for arms-increase. -
what is the test?
To remember the launch code?
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Re:... Exclusion?!
Who said anything about drinking from a cup? Not every convenience store has a fountain, and even if they do the performance is inconsistent. Vending machines are definitely not fountains. There's no "cup" a lot of times.
There were many times in my Coke-drinking days when I'd partially empty a 20 oz. I just hated wasting the stuff; but I knew I didn't want to drink all of it. It always went flat before I wanted any more.
BTW, the Mexican cokes are still a bit too big. 12 oz. (355 ml) or half-liter. I find 12 oz., poured over ice and shared with somebody is best; although I can tolerate 12 oz. The half-liter is a disturbing trend. The Mexicans certainly don't need it, since they just surpassed the US in obesity.
BTW, I knew the original coke bottle was smaller and found this article about 6.5 oz. bottles.. Sigh... apparently this was available in the UK not that long ago? Maybe they'll bring it back to the US and finally reverse the trend. The original size was just about right. Yes, I'd pay more per oz., but I'd pay the same per *serving*.
Can the Coke executives get that through their heads? Some of us are desiring a *serving*, not a "most ounces for the buck". Wondering what to do with the excess soda, or being suckered into finishing more than you need... is not a pleasant experience. Having a right-sized glass bottle with real sugar in it, that's what some of us want.
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Re:Not worth the risk
You think there's no risk to wearing contacts?
http://o.canada.com/news/stude...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...Lasik is actually quite safe.
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Re: Why isn't the U.S. doing things like this?
Really? You're a fucking retard.
In a singular effort we're going to pay 8.6 billion to move troops from Japan as Japan ponies up 3.1 billion. Yeah, Japan is really paying its share.
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Re:If only...
Oh come on now, how could anyone mistake this guy for being gay?
Seriously, though, some of his publicity stunts are almost Kim Jong-* level. While the "flying with geese to lead them home" one was funny, and the saving his camera crew from a savage tiger one was conveniently off camera, my favorite has to be the "finding ancient Greek pottery while diving in two meters of clear water on a popular beach" one.
;) Of course that one was so over the top even for him that they had to backtrack:But his spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in an interview shown Tuesday on the Dozhd TV channel that the jugs had been found earlier by archaeologists and placed there for Mr Putin.
... 'Of course, they were left there or placed there. It's completely normal. There's no reason to gloat about this and everything else.'Mr Putin is noted for his habit of appearing in vigorous and adventurous settings, including fishing and hunting while stripped to the waist and riding with leather-clad bikers.
Again, though, let me stress - not gay!
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Re:This is sexist
I will leave this right here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem...And this more controversial one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.u...I will say I'm a fan of female scientists, there are some with biochemical and chemical degrees in my family (who have long since abandoned the field for hearth and home, a decision of their own choosing), but I see a lot of men who are promoting it simply trying to make women in their own image. Maybe they are dads with only one child, daughters, which is very common now or what not. But actively steering them away from traditional female disciplines just because it offends our modern senses of "diversity" and conflating equality with equal results is just as wrong imo.
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Re:Awesome!
Well let's see we have a story of discrimination and injustice:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...underworked employees:
http://www.theguardian.com/art...These aren't all people who screw up and want a second chance, it's factual information about companies actual business practices in some cases.
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Re:Awesome!
Okay, let's take a real-world example. Mr. Salim Zakhrouf, listed on the site in relation to this story about him being racially discriminated against. When he is looking for another job and someone Google's his name, that story is quite likely to be the top result. Considering the guy has already been the victim of racial discrimination and decided to fight back I can see a lot of cowardly employers not wanting to give him an interview.
There is nothing wrong with the story, except that it mentions him by name which is somewhat unnecessary, but basically it's fine (I know, shocking when the source is the Daily Mail). I rally don't see the harm in protecting him and his job prospects by removing the result for the very specific search of his name. He isn't a public figure, he hasn't done anything wrong himself.
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Re:Pics or GTFO
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Re:I was able to sneak into their laboratories
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci... That's a link to the photos without the blogspam..
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Re:I was able to sneak into their laboratories
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Here's a better article with actual photos
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Re:What if he forgot it?
You could use the fact that you regularly share driving duties as an explanation of why you don't know who was driving. this has been accepted as a eason for dismissal in the past., although it might be helpful to be rich.
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Re:My question was not answered
Indians are just a wonderful race of people, aren't they?
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Re:I can't imagine something like that in the U.S.
Of course not for somthing as critical as maintenance planning and scheduling. But its OK for air traffic control functions. Where the consequences of a bad rule set are not nearly as serious.
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Re:Where have I seen these claims before?
"Note that he claims he built a nuclear reactor when he was 14.."
Which he did. Nobody seriously disputes this claim. He held the record for the youngest person to build a fusion device until Jamie Edwards did so at 13.
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Re:CAGW is a trojan horse
Not that "climate change" is homogeneous and 10 years does not centuries make, but currently from a notorious yellow rag: NOAA's most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. "Temperatures in North Dakota falling for the past 10yrs is not relevant. " But this is NA, a slightly larger land area than ND.
I think the GP is arguing about extrapolation of the data to fill in missing gaps. And while I completely agree that "dumping crap into our atmosphere is a bad thing", the devil is in the details.
They think that a million smokestacks is enough, I think that a thousand of them is enough, you think that only one is enough. So how many are built? What point on the gradient is right?
Oh, and I like and believe in science too. But at a certain point you seem to have made up your mind (quote: Contradictions? No, "It's dead on."), blame the dumb and evil groups trying to stop you and come across as these guys. They were 100% convinced too, you know, with a literal evil guy trying to stop them.
Not that they're not bad and misleading groups out there. And to slightly mis-quote you: "climate data is HARD to deal with." So how do you know that you (they) have gotten it right? After all: men won't live through the high 15mph speeds of trains, bumblebees and men can't fly, and man will never go to the moon.
Models are wanna-be theory implementations, but this one is slightly wrong.
Quoting from elsewhere in this thread: "That is why there are so many people who choose ignorance and belief over reason and fact." And I'm sure the End of the World people above used those exact words too.
Down here in the bible belt (sigh) there's a saying; "God did it; I believe it; That settles it." As opposed to the other funnier saying: "My mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts." Those match this current discussion When Beliefs and Facts Collide.
Finally, to end this rambling, no matter which side of of the fence you're on (fences only have 2 sides, right -- black and white, right and wrong, "yer with me or agin me"), this is just wrong: forced to step down after subjected to 'Mc-Carthy'-style pressure from scientists around the world.
Just because you want to present a debunked theory doesn't mean you should be shouted down -- it ought to be easy to refute their (new?) arguments. And if not -- why, that's even better! Science works by correcting incorrect "facts" no matter how widespread they're known. -
Re:CAGW is a trojan horse
Not that "climate change" is homogeneous and 10 years does not centuries make, but currently from a notorious yellow rag: NOAA's most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. "Temperatures in North Dakota falling for the past 10yrs is not relevant. " But this is NA, a slightly larger land area than ND.
I think the GP is arguing about extrapolation of the data to fill in missing gaps. And while I completely agree that "dumping crap into our atmosphere is a bad thing", the devil is in the details.
They think that a million smokestacks is enough, I think that a thousand of them is enough, you think that only one is enough. So how many are built? What point on the gradient is right?
Oh, and I like and believe in science too. But at a certain point you seem to have made up your mind (quote: Contradictions? No, "It's dead on."), blame the dumb and evil groups trying to stop you and come across as these guys. They were 100% convinced too, you know, with a literal evil guy trying to stop them.
Not that they're not bad and misleading groups out there. And to slightly mis-quote you: "climate data is HARD to deal with." So how do you know that you (they) have gotten it right? After all: men won't live through the high 15mph speeds of trains, bumblebees and men can't fly, and man will never go to the moon.
Models are wanna-be theory implementations, but this one is slightly wrong.
Quoting from elsewhere in this thread: "That is why there are so many people who choose ignorance and belief over reason and fact." And I'm sure the End of the World people above used those exact words too.
Down here in the bible belt (sigh) there's a saying; "God did it; I believe it; That settles it." As opposed to the other funnier saying: "My mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts." Those match this current discussion When Beliefs and Facts Collide.
Finally, to end this rambling, no matter which side of of the fence you're on (fences only have 2 sides, right -- black and white, right and wrong, "yer with me or agin me"), this is just wrong: forced to step down after subjected to 'Mc-Carthy'-style pressure from scientists around the world.
Just because you want to present a debunked theory doesn't mean you should be shouted down -- it ought to be easy to refute their (new?) arguments. And if not -- why, that's even better! Science works by correcting incorrect "facts" no matter how widespread they're known. -
Re:No good solution for drones
A small drone flying below 400 feet is a hazard only to lifeforms below 400 feet. And if the drone has reasonable safety features (such as shielded/ducted propellers) then it shouldn't be a problem as long as linear speeds below about 50 miles/hour (yes, there should be a mass value included, higher mass, lower speed).
Ah, I see you've totally ignored the risk of drone injestion to the turbines of aircraft taking off and landing at airports. And before you say, "what idiot would be flying a drone around an airport?" let me remind you of incidents like this one and this one. These are the same kind of idiots attempting to dazzle aircraft with laser pointers, even police helicopters.
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Re:No good solution for drones
A small drone flying below 400 feet is a hazard only to lifeforms below 400 feet. And if the drone has reasonable safety features (such as shielded/ducted propellers) then it shouldn't be a problem as long as linear speeds below about 50 miles/hour (yes, there should be a mass value included, higher mass, lower speed).
Ah, I see you've totally ignored the risk of drone injestion to the turbines of aircraft taking off and landing at airports. And before you say, "what idiot would be flying a drone around an airport?" let me remind you of incidents like this one and this one. These are the same kind of idiots attempting to dazzle aircraft with laser pointers, even police helicopters.
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Re:NSA doesn't care
The good part with US servers and the US cloud was lack of hard encryption and a legal 'cut out' e.g. a federal "finding" for the NSA to get in and collect it all from tame US telco product providers.
As hinted at via ideas around "QuantumInsert" show that time and distance to a cloud or server is good news for the NSA and friends.
i.e. a man-in-the-middle fake web page is great on distant optical but may be more tricky within Russia needing tame Russian staff and an unnoticed Russian site.
If you can get the cloud or servers used by Russians out to the US or a tame friendly country with shared facilities its less hard work.
Within Russia your back to the human side
"The name is Blond... James Blond: The moment US 'spy' has shaggy wig revealed by Russian secret service after being arrested for offering millions to agent to switch sides" (15 May 2013)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Russian cannot protect its wider internet use as it moves around the EU and beyond. In Russia the US has to try the human approach - something any nations security services are always ready for in their own cities.
Russia knows it needs to project its banking, trade, science and culture out to the world on its own terms and via Russians.
Russia also knows the less vital networks it has floating around the world - the slightly less easy it is to totally tap.
Russia lost a lot in the 1930's - to early 1950's due to sloppy code use. Russia learned fast that one time pads if used correctly (no reuse) do work.
The problem is a vast rate of vital data moving on 'international' junk banking and telco crypto standards on cheap peering.
The Russian solution is to risk what it knows will be lost on international networks and do the best they can back in Russia on their own networks.
Will it work? No, the NSA and GCHQ got to many large scale internal Soviet networks over time. Back to humans, typewriters, one time pads and number stations. -
Re:Haha
I agree with you that a driver must drive in such a way that he (or she) can avoid collisions. However the law apparently doesn't recognize that, at least in many jurisdictions.
Take for example the curious case recently in Canada where the driver of a car stopped on a highway to rescue some baby ducks who had wandered onto it. A motorcyclist with his child on board slammed into the rear of the stopped car and both dad and child died. The driver of the car has been convicted for negligence and faces "life" (2 x 14 years) in prison.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2663995/Canada-woman-stops-ducks-guilty-2-deaths.html
This is tragic for the family of the dead man and child. It is also tragic for the driver of the car though. Clearly she should not have parked on the highway, but the motorcyclist should not have rammed into a stopped vehicle. That car could just as well have broken down on the road and he still would have slammed into it. Drivers have to pay attention and drive carefully. The first step may be to slow down. Speed limits have become too high.
In 1964 an increase in the New York City speed limit was forced upon the city by the New York State Legislature against protest by the NYC Traffic Commssioner Henry Barnes (of the famous "Barnes Dance" protocol). Today Mayor Bill de Blasio is working to lower it back to 25 in most places, and to 20 in higher risk areas.
We need to back off from the mindset that moving motor vehicle traffic as quickly as possible is properly the primary goal of traffic planners. Safety must be moved into first place.
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Re:Interessting in any case
Just try and read more news "AC"
Big Brother is watching: Fears over 'homeland security' streetlights that can record your conversations and track your movements (28 October 2011)
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Re:First "OMG the common sense" post
Actually he _was_ convicted of misusing the DB (max sentence 12 months). He's been in jail for more than 18 months so at this point, he has served more than enough to satisfy the highest possible sentence.
As a side note, the most disturbing part of this case to me, was Valle's illegal use of the DB to find out information about people for purely personal reasons. I'm sort of shocked that such a crime carries a max 12 month sentence. What that says to me is that law enforcement agencies and the governments that set them up, don't really care how their own misuse government power. Nor does the media for the most part as demonstrated by the thousands of words spent on the prurient charms of this case, but in any article, there is at most a single sentence about the DB issue.
Here's an example:
Tabloid same as NY Times, you'll have to search the page for "database" to find that single sentence.:
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Re:more toys...
Recall how well the wig was used
"The name is Blond... James Blond: Russia set to expel US 'spy' caught wearing a shaggy wig as he offered millions to agent to switch sides" (15 May 2013)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"Red-handed? Russia ‘catches CIA spy on Moscow recruitment mission’" (14 May 2013)
http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
Giving your spies even more complex equipment might just make for even more photogenic press reports.
Keep the spying face to face with simple items any local tourist, student or academic might have.
The more complex the spy kit the more it will be used, then detected and shared with the worlds press.
Anybody of real importance will not let any foreigner near them.
Anybody else will let any foreigner or tourist near them.
The only win in this is the sale of the product, support and maintenance contracts to the US gov.
Launder ex mil staff as aid workers is always a good front. Use faith based groups to hide ex mil staff. Multinational telco workers contracting for a private sector upgrade are good cover too. -
Re:waste of time
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix...
I think that guy tested your idea. Doesn't look like it worked too well.
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Re:Here's the Solution
It gets more fun too
"Immigration officer fired after putting wife on list of terrorists to stop her flying home (31 January 2011)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"US Has A 'Secret Exception' To Reasonable Suspicion For Putting People On The No Fly List" (Apr 17, 2014)
https://www.techdirt.com/artic...
That other list:
"DHS ‘hands off’ list allowed suspects with terror ties into U.S."
http://www.washingtontimes.com...
'Hands off' list? Senator questions whether DHS allowing those with terror ties into US (May 07, 2014)
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Drugs might have been involved
According to Mail Online
It was built by Robert C Lamoureux and his company Four Twenty Corp in 2011
I can picture this now. "Yeah dude, we like... totally surveyed the place. It's all good. You can start digging tomorrow."