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We already know that now, as according to the DEA's 2018 report, the most common way for drugs to enter the country in the south is via the points of entry already. After that is tunnels, light aircraft, and then marine vehicles.

I guess the citation is this one: https://www.dea.gov/sites/defa...

Mexican TCOs transport the majority of illicit drugs into the United States across the SWB using a wide array of smuggling techniques. The most common method employed by these TCOs involves transporting illicit drugs through U.S. POEs in passenger vehicles with concealed compartments or commingled with legitimate goods on tractor trailers

[It specifically refers to "Ports of Entry", POEs, a more precise term than "point of entry". Ports of entry are the existing staffed border stations, that obviously a wall will do nothing to improve.]

Other cross-border smuggling techniques employed by Mexican TCOs include the use of subterranean tunnels... Mexican TCOs also transport illicit drugs to
the United States aboard commercial cargo trains and passenger buses. To a lesser extent, Mexican TCOs use maritime vessels off the coast of California. Mexican TCOs also rely on traditional drug smuggling methods, such as the use of backpackers, or “mules,” on clandestine land trails to cross remote areas of the SWB into the United States. Mexican TCOs exploit various aerial methods to transport illicit drugs across the SWB. These methods include the use of ultralight aircraft and unmanned aerial systems (UASs) and drones to conduct air drops. Ultralights are primarily used to transport marijuana shipments, depositing the drugs in close proximity to the SWB. Currently, UASs can only convey small multi-kilogram amounts of illicit drugs at a time and are therefore not commonly used, though there is potential for increased growth and use. Mexican TCOs also use UASs to monitor the activity of U.S. law enforcement along the SWB to identify cross-border vulnerabilities.

The only one of these that the wall would stop are "traditional drug smuggling methods, such as the use of backpackers, or “mules,” on clandestine land trails". I'm curious what percentage this makes up.

Is alcohol a controlled substance and if so what is its scheduling?
Is pot a controlled substance and if so what is its scheduling?
If the government classifies a drug should that classification be used in determining purchase of a gun?
If there are problems with that classification process should that classification be ignored?

https://www.dea.gov/druginfo/c...

You are not making a point. You are being pedantic. It's annoying. I am done.

No, that doesn't define a schedule 1 drug.

You're not arguing against anything I actually said. I know how the schedules are defined.

You said: "Take cannabis for example; why is it a schedule 1 drug? It has hardly any of the characteristics of other schedule 1 drugs. Yet it's there because it bothers people on moral grounds." And in that regard it fits right in. It has almost all of the characteristics of other schedule 1 drugs: it bothers people on moral grounds.

Most of the schedule 1 drugs are hallucinogenics, even though several of them (including cannabis) have medical potential. Secondly, even though schedule 1 drugs are supposed be "the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence," there are actually very few addictive drugs on that schedule. Those are all on schedule 2, even though many of the drugs on that schedule haven't been used medically for many decades. Heroin aside, if you hear of somebody becoming addicted to a drug, it's almost assuredly a schedule 2 drug.

...important to note that this is a Schedule I compound?

It's probably also worth noting that marijuana is also a schedule 1 drug, due to its "high potential for abuse", "no currently accepted medical use in the U.S.", and "potentially severe psychological or physical dependence".

NOTE: Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC, marijuana) is still considered a Schedule 1 drug by the DEA, even though some U.S. states have legalized marijuana for personal, recreational use or for medical use.

The DEA's MO on all drugs, beyond just marijuana, consists entirely of overhype. Have you ever looked at the schedules? Schedule I, which consists almost entirely of psychedelic drugs is described as such (hilarious emphasis added):

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

Of course, Schedule II drugs are by far the most abused drugs, including things like prescription opiates, methamphetamine, cocaine, ritalin, etc. But Schedule II is described as having "less abuse potential than Schedule I drugs". It's BS all the way down.

From that paragon of information known to be false, but is believed by the editors to be true, regardless of the actual facts:

That's a weird preamble... The actual facts are pretty easy to find:

Description of schedules
excerpted (with exceptionally funny sentence in bold):

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

Contents of schedules

Do you know anyone who has gone to jail for merely having said plant in their possession? Almost certainly not. That's because something like 98% of drug possession charges that lead to jail time are just added on to a more serious crime, like aggravated assault with bud in pocket.

FWIW: http://www.dea.gov/demand/speakout/10so.htm which has different (ie cherry-picked) statistics

"The drug treatment court program and several other programs set up throughout the United States have been reducing the number of minor drug offenses that actually end up in the penal system. The reality is that you have to work pretty darn hard to end up in jail on drug possession charges." -DEA

in the most awesome basement ever built!

Yeah, since they don't flood the world with quality LSD anymore, they might as well use them for data centers.

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/states/newsrel/sanfran1124 03.html

I generally agree, and welcome with open arms, with your point, but have just one thing to point out:

Screw corn. There are crops that are much better suited for oil production. My personal bias is for Hemp. These are not for the NORML reasons people think of. Here is a chart that illustrates the gal./acre of various crops http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.ht ml. From that chart, Hemp produces over twice as much oil in a single growing as does corn. Coupled with that and the fact that Hemp in most parts of the continental US, multiple plantings per year can be achieved. The South can get at least 3, maybe 4 plantings. Hell, it's a weed, not like it has the genetic capacity to survive.

Of course, there is that minor technicality of the Porky Pigs of the DEA being unenlightened; but with the price of Oil at ~$73 a barrel and climbing, the chances for change increase with the continued upward movement.

We can only hope.

First "Drug Screening" most likely be for purposes other than detecting illegal drug usage. It's more likely to be used to detect the effects of various new drugs on various tissue samples.

Many narcotics are highly potent and lethal in small amount
Like caffeine? The LD-50 is only 10 grams.

We can't even control drunk driving, what makes you think that "public" is going to be responsible enough to use marijuana
Because Marijuana is a different drug than alchohol, with much milder effects?

without screaming civil right violation?
Yes, the drug war has resulted in many violations of people's rights.

Alcohol itself is a drug and stupid, making that as some kind of holy grail example to legalize narcotics is nothing but sad and idiotic.
Nah, it shows that legalization, regulation. and taxation works. Heck, it shows that the banning of drugs lead to the formation and prominence of criminal gangs. Alchohol prohibition created the Mob, which lost much of it's power when alchohol was legalized. It also showed that when banned, people tended to drink heavier liquers that were easier to smuggle than safer(relativly) beer and wine. For that matter, drinking went up during prohibition, and went down when it ended.

And I'm sure many cancer patients and HIV infected people are going to cry foul and I do sympathize by supporting State Law to legalize it as prescription medicine
The states can't do much but bluster until the Federal Government moves it out of Schedule 1(no medical use). They say that the medical version is Marinol, but studies have shown it to be both about a thousand times more expensive per dose and not as effective.

Unless you are a Native Indian, please don't even use the word "We" as in "We have been using it as recreational purpose for centries."
How about almost four centuries? Columbus came over in 1492. Marijuana was banned in 1937. That's 445 years. I'll give it over 40 years to spread.

Were there even 10?

When will the FTC/DOJ/FBI/DEA ever get their collective acts together and start jailing people for criminal fraud? Why aren't there RICO prosecutions against the individuals and institutions backing spam enterprises? Can it really be that hard to follow the money trail?

Or is the answer one or more of the following:

1) Too busy trying to find Osama
2) Too busy busting bong makers
3) Too busy watching, er, catching porn makers
4) Spammers are *entreprenuers*, not con men, and this administration is pro-business..
5) Laura Bush approves of prez's new-found stamina, can't cut off his supply of enhancements..

That's a nice theory but it doesn't correspond to the reality of the American Drug War. Also, since acetaminophen and aspirin are so toxic it would make sense to give out mild opiates at first and then add in a NSAID if needed, not vice versa. That is unless the government wasn't irrational scared that someone, somewhere might be having a good time.

Reality is your friend.

It's only an issue for pot smokers.

It's an issue for taxpayer as well. The DEA recieved $1,897,300,000.00 for FY2003. The FBI spent $474,119,000.00 fighting "domestic sources of drugs" (see Goal Five). How much do you think your State Police are spending on helicopters to find the growers? How much are your local police spending to bust the pot smokers? How effective have these measures been? Are there fewer pot smokers than there were in 1973 (the year the DEA was established)? Even if we agree that many addicting drugs should be illegal, is it worth it to spend huge amounts of money on combatting the marijuana trade when that money could be spent keeping cocaine and heroine from crossing the borders?

You like spending money on (ineffective) prohibition? Go ahead, just quit spending mine.

Or tryptamines.. mmm..

So why does the NSA emplyee the most people of any goverment TLA? FBI,CIA

Because the CIA's dirty work is mostly done by private corporate contractors (Wackenhut, Carlyle, and The Curry Company are the big ones), some entertainment companies (remember MCA, now part ofUniversal Studios but I'm sure they're still active in the comunity) and an assortment of airlines (Pan Am got screwed for helping out), shipping companies (still working on tracking these), and import/export businesses (mostly furniture and lighting, some appliance). There are also some strange connections to Scientology, The Landmark Education Corporation, and The Moonies.

The CIA has been known to work with terrorist organisations to achieve thier desired objectives.

The FBI, CIA, and the DEA, also contract various crime organisations, individual criminals, and run of the mill citizens to do work for them. Often these folk have no idea who it is they are working for.

The NSA, for the most part, uses in house employees to analyze intelligence data, monitor foriegn communications, and ensure the security of comunications for the other departments and the military. In other words, they hire a lot of geeks, have some clue about the internet (they like it), and don't really mind if you encrypt your own data (security for all is more secure than security for some, plus breaking it will be a nice challenge.)

--qtp

Thank you for turning The United States of Amerika into another fascist state with your

Operation
Pipedreams and Headhunter

Cheers,
W00t

Get Your Drug War On

Actually, that's only true from one set of perspectives. Think of it this way: Your title to the house is merely a piece of paper that says that the house is yours. All it means is that you can get men in blue uniforms with guns to show up and kick other people out of the house if you want, assuming the political climate stays roughly equivalent to what it is.

This does not mean you "own" the house, any more than having control of the police force and the ability to break into people's houses, kill them, and take their property means you "own" the house (but then, when has that ever stopped anyone?)

Hey kids, let's play Mad Libs!!!

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD troll community when last month the DEA confirmed that *BSD trolls account for 99 percent of LSD use worldwide. Coming on the heels of the latest High Times survey which plainly states that none of them have a clue as to which end of a joint to light, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD trolling is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing a recent drug test.

You don't need to be Bob Cringely to predict this *BSD troll's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolling faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolling because *BSD trolls are frying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD trolls continue to lose brain cells. Lysergic acid flows like a river of dreams. Anonymous Coward is the most endangered of them all.

Let's pull some numbers out of my ass.

I've seen this same lame cut and paste troll message about 7000 times since I first noticed it. How many *BSD trolls are there? Let's see. The number of *BSD troll posts on Slasdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1 BSD story. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 opportunities for this lamer to defecate from his oral orifice. But this annoying little prick continues to operate on less than half a brain. Therefore there are about 700 comestains on his sheets and he wonders why no women will even look at him. A recent BSD troll lost about 80 percent of his grey matter to crack smoking. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 brain cells left in his otherwise empty head. This is consistent with the number of crashes his favorite toy OS has undergone in the past year *cough*Windows*cough*.

Due to the problem of keeping a reliable supply of acid handy, negative cash flow and so on, a BSD troll went out and picked up some contaminated drugs on the street. Now the BSD troll is also dead, its corpse turned black and rotting on the floor.

All major surveys show that *BSD trolling has steadily declined in intellignece, not that it ever had any. *BSD trolling is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolling is to survive at all it will be because it keeps the BSD troll baiters amused. *BSD trolling continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD trolls are dead.

The kids are back. The kids are back. Ohhh watch out, the kids are back.

So did your 'research' happen to include actually setting up and testing an OpenBSD box vs. the competition, or did you just do your 'research' in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.bestiality again?

In other news, yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered BSD troll community when last month the Drug Enforcement Agency confirmed that they account for nearly all this nation's LSD consumption. Coming on the heels of the latest High Times survey which revealed none of them know which end of a joint to light, this news confirms the truth the rest of us know: BSD trolls are frying.

How many tabs of acid does that work out to? Let's take a look at the numbers:

In 1999, 39.9 percent of adult males arrested were found to have traces of pot in their systems. How does this relate to the number of dosers? Well it allows me to pull the ratio of 5 to 1 out of my butt. So lets say that 7.9 percent of arrest-prone lowlifes are licking lysergic acid-laced Mickey Mouse stamps. With their judgement thusly impaired, they are prone to believe in system speed test done by so-called sysadmins who don't even bother to tune an operating system after installing it, invent spurious statistics about nothing in particular, and generally talk (and type) out their ass.

BSD trolls face a hazy future, albeit one populated by dancing pink elephants and other distracting hallucinations. The rest of us can only pity these poor souls.

So did your 'research' happen to include actually setting up and testing an OpenBSD box vs. the competition, or did you just do your 'research' in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.bestiality again?

In other news, yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered BSD troll community when last month the Drug Enforcement Agency confirmed that they account for nearly all this nation's LSD consumption. Coming on the heels of the latest High Times survey which revealed none of them know which end of a joint to light, this news confirms the truth the rest of us know: BSD trolls are frying.

How many tabs of acid does that work out to? Let's take a look at the numbers:

In 1999, 39.9 percent of adult males arrested were found to have traces of pot in their systems. How does this relate to the number of dosers? Well it allows me to pull the ratio of 5 to 1 out of my butt. So lets say that 7.9 percent of arrest-prone lowlifes are licking lysergic acid-laced Mickey Mouse stamps. With their judgement thusly impaired, they are prone to believe in system speed test done by so-called sysadmins who don't even bother to tune an operating system after installing it, invent spurious statistics about nothing in particular, and generally talk (and type) out their ass.

BSD trolls face a hazy future, albeit one populated by dancing pink elephants and other distracting hallucinations. The rest of us can only pity these poor souls.

Yet another crippling bombshell hit beleaguered Sysadmin Magazine readers when last month the DEA confirmed that they account for nearly all this nation's LSD consumption. Coming on the heels of the latest High Times survey which revealed none of them know which end of a joint to light, this news confirms the truth the rest of us know: Sysadmin Mag readers are frying.

How many tabs of acid does that work out to? Let's take a look at the numbers:

In 1999, 39.9 percent of adult males arrested were found to have traces of pot in their systems. How does this relate to the number of dosers? Well it allows me to pull the ratio of 5 to 1 out of my butt. So lets say that 7.9 percent of arrest-prone lowlifes are licking lysergic acid-laced Mickey Mouse stamps. With their judgement thusly impaired, they are prone to believe in system speed test done by so-called sysadmins who don't even bother to tune an operating system after installing it.

Sysadmin Magazine readers face a hazy future, albeit one populated by dancing pink elephants and other distracting hallucinations. The rest of us can only pity these poor souls.

563/100,000 people were the victims of violent crime in the US in 1999 (see: the FBI's Statistics)

570/100,000 people were victims of violent crime in the Netherlands in 1999, just about the same as the US! (see: the Netherlands Ministry of Justice)

From an economic point of view, even the DEA's own statistics clearly state (if you wade around for a while) that the Drug war is just about an economic null-op. i.e. the money we "save" by having these "criminals" off the streets is about the same as the amount of money we spend to put them in prison. So, what the hell? Why are we doing this again?

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• "The only danger is sending out the wrong message. Drugs kill, and anyone advocating their use is little better than a killer."

CRIMINAL NO. 0
12:32 AM Some lamer just offered me $250 to write a one-day journal of my hacking. I brag that I can make $4,000 a day by stealing credit cards, but I'm still willing to spend several hours writing a journal for a meager $250. With that kind of incentive, you can be sure that none of this is made up. None of it. Trust me, I'll appeal to the media's maniacal demand for sensationalist hacker stories.
12:38 PM Found a cool new way to hack people. 31337.
12:39 AM Sent out a mass HTML email to hundreds of AOL Lusers with code to steal their passwords. The technical flaw only exploits Outlook Express users, but those Lamers are stupid enough that somehow it'll still work in their AOL mail programs.
12:40 AM Going to my girlfriend's house.
12:41 AM Back from girlfriend's.
1:14 AM Got 217,468.25 AOL logins already. Haha, those lamers are so stupid! I can steal all your passwords, America, and there's nothing you can do about it because I'm a scary hacker! ph34r me.
1:27 AM Ran a secret hacker script to extract credit card numbers. Bought $1,000,000,000 worth of cocaine from a secret hacker website at http://www.dea.gov/. The Feds will never be able to figure out my address, because I sent it to my mom, who's sleeping in her room down the hall. And my ISP will never give my name away - AOL doesn't do that kind of thing.
1:30 AM Realized its past my bedtime. Mommy's yelling at me to go to sleep. Remember, America, hackers can do anything! But send me your credit card number and I guarantee that you'll be safe from hackers.