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Let me be REALLY contrary here...
You can do this in GroupWise. Seriously.
The Apple client for GroupWise works. Yes, it did as of this summer. Lately, Apple hasn't been busy crippling it, so I suspect it's still ok. Works for 10.4 and 10.5.
The Windows clients include a native client and an Outlook plug-in. This was slick in Outlook 2007.
Would you prefer the GroupWise Web Access Client?
GroupWise server runs on NetWare, SUSE 10 or above (I think), Windows Server '03 and '08. The Mobile Server might be fun to look at.
Yes, GroupWise works. Drew does this and it works.
But I know you will resist, and ohers will dismiss this option as ludicrous and obsolete, if not dangerous and a true threat to national security, your and their sanity, and of course it's Novell, which has to be bad, if not just plain old.
But hey, it does work. You'll have other things to look at, but it's there.
Now let the flames begin.
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Re:Wow its changed again
I know of no atheist willing to do such a thing when attacking religion.
They do it all the time.It's easier, it seems, to act based on prejudices than to seek good information and answer it point by point.
Every side of every confilict involving large groups does this on occation. Don't let one jerk overwhelm a dozen good arguments just because they're on the same side.When will we see a "Summa Against God"? Never, I bet.
Here's TWO! Why I Am Not A Christian and The Age Of Reason are both philosophical classics. The Secular Web's Library has plenty of other examples of atheists mulling over the ideas presented by theists. And that's just what I know of off the top of my head.Otherwise you'd know that religions (actual ones, not this thing Americans usually take as such) follow the first pattern, not the second.
No, they don't. Religions are built on intuitions and feelings, things that are by their nature subjective. Science is just a way of avoiding the mental shortcuts (gut feelings, intuition, emotion) that might often be useful and good in their own way, but prevent us from using rational thought effectively.
If religion worked as you say it does, then after this much time there would be at least a few things that were beyond contestation. But religion hasn't even proved that the things it talks about (god, souls, reincarnation, supernatural things in general) exist. If biology was in the same state, there would be some people that have strong, reasonable arguments that suggest that living things don't exist! -
comsumption tax and user fees
Then you're in favor of adding a "consumption" tax to account for the real cost of products. Add on a tax per pound for garbage, but allow free drop off of recyclables. Add on extra gas taxes. Add on disposal taxes on sale of anything that poses specific problems (e.g. CRTs).
Yeap! I'm very much in favor of a consumption tax (sales tax on nonessential items) and user fees. And pollution taxes. Get rid of income taxes!!! Well except maybe for those who make 100, 1000, or maybe 10,000 tyme what the lowest paid fulltime worker in a business makes. But at least in the USA if government were to follow the limits put on it by the USA Constitution then there wouldn't be this perceived need for high taxes.
The free market won't do it, but those are real costs that a "rational" person would pay (unless it is voluntary, thus allowing freeloaders).
A true free market would do it, however there isn't a true free market. What exists today is the corporate aristocracy Thomas Jefferson warned of and which Adam Smith and Thomas Paine would of railed against.
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Bertrand Russell agrees
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Re:titanium dioxide?
In a free economy, corporations do whatever it takes in the short term to improve the bottom line,
That is not a free market or economy, that is a Corporate Aristocracy.
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free economy
How's it a free economy when corporations are given power by the state to take from public property with no recourse for others who have a stake in this public property?
There isn't a free market economy as Adam Smith envisioned in The Wealth of Nations . It hasn't existed in a long tyme. What we have is the Corporate Aristocracy Thomas Jefferson warned of in 1814.
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Re:Not HP Specific
I have an Evo N1000c that was part of my school's [drew.edu] ubiquitious computing program. I work at the school helpdesk, and we had problems with the Evos from the first day. After three months, my computer was receiving 0x8e stop errors at least once a day, if not more frequently.
HP replaced my mainboard three times, my hard drive twice, and EVERY OTHER COMPONENT on my computer except for my batter at least once. I bought new memory, which didn't fix the problem.
Finally, we sent my machine to be aggressively tested by HP. After *they lost it* for a while, they returned it claiming that it was fixed, but wouldn't tell us what they did.
I have my doubts that this problem is industry-wide. We're talking about two-year old laptops here. HP simply had a very, very serious quality-control problem. They deserve absolutely no kudos - it took the threat of potential legal action for them to even pay attention to our issues. -
Re:It can't be too bad
Actually it's quite a serious problem. My employer has been fighting with HP for over a year about it. Machines affected would bluescreen at least daily, if not more frequently.
We went back and forth with HP for some time on it. They would swap components to no avail, and flip-flop between blaming software we had installed, and then discovering they were able to reproduce the problem on a factory software image.
I wonder how long they knew about the issue internally before letting customers know. They didn't let us know until the very end.
The best is this Register article, the quote:
"The company says that it hasn't received a complaint yet, but is "pre-emptively" introducing a repair program."
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Re:It can't be too bad
Actually it's quite a serious problem. My employer has been fighting with HP for over a year about it. Machines affected would bluescreen at least daily, if not more frequently.
We went back and forth with HP for some time on it. They would swap components to no avail, and flip-flop between blaming software we had installed, and then discovering they were able to reproduce the problem on a factory software image.
I wonder how long they knew about the issue internally before letting customers know. They didn't let us know until the very end.
The best is this Register article, the quote:
"The company says that it hasn't received a complaint yet, but is "pre-emptively" introducing a repair program."
Not a single complaint? That's total BS. -
Picking Professors is more importantI've been to both fancy, $28,000-a-year Universities (Drew) and cheap State schools (Arizona State), and even the local Community College, and from my experience, the quality of education differs very little. I've observed that the reputation of the school matters much less than getting good Professors.
A good Professor can make a boring class interesting, inspire you to achieve your full potential, and boil down the most complex ideas into a simple analogy or diagram. A bad Professor, on the other hand, can bore you to tears, complicate concepts needlessly, or just show so little effort that you feel inclined to show little in return. The quality of my education has always been effected far more drastically by picking good Professors then by picking well rated schools.
One could argue that a good school will have more good Professors (or even that this is the definition of a 'good school'). and they'd be right, but I don't think that there's as much of a difference as people like to believe. I've had plenty of awesome teachers at ASU and my share of horrible ones at Drew. Of course, the bad teachers at well reputed Universities are bad for different reasons; i.e. they're busy doing research and have their graduate students teach/grade for the class.
There are plenty of resources to help you find good teachers at the school you choose to attend. Besides, obviously, word of mouth, there are new sites such as PickAProf where students rate the teachers they've had (has anyone used this site? Does it work well?)
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Drew University
Since August 2002, Drew has been using Mozilla as its supported IMAP mail client. It is distributed with all student laptops, lab computers, and fac/staff desktops. Previous to that, we used Netscape 4.7.
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Drew University
Since August 2002, Drew has been using Mozilla as its supported IMAP mail client. It is distributed with all student laptops, lab computers, and fac/staff desktops. Previous to that, we used Netscape 4.7.
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Re:Bertrand Russell's commandmentsA LIBERAL DECALOGUE By Bertrand Russell Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate, might be set forth as follows:
1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.
3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.
6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.
7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.
9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
"A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell, Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2. Copied from the Bertrand Russell Society's website -
Gratuitous plug
Why don't you go somewhere that provides a laptop computer with tuition? You're guaranteed to get the standard that works with the university, they'll take care of warranty repairs and software upgrades (and software support) and the faculty will use the computers in class because they know that everyone's got something and what it is.
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So many ears!
From EMI letter: There are 250 Million blank CDRs and tapes bought and used this year for copying music in comparison to 213 Million prerecorded audio media. This means the owners are only being paid for 46 per cent of the musical content. For a comparison: In 1998 almost 90% of all audio media was paid for. Even without a degree in economics everyone should realise that such trends will result in the music industry ceasing to exist.
[breaks out calc.exe.... tap-tap-tap...] OMG! By similar calculation, I calculate that, allowing for deaf people, there are 12 Billion ears on this planet used for listening to EMI cd's, in comparison with the only 50 million or so microphones in the world. That means 99.995833% of all the world's hearing power is used for EMI music, but EMI's 1996 sales were still only about £2.7 billion. That puts the entire music industry's annual sales for 2002 at about £3 billion. Therefor, each individual ear only pays about £0.25 annually for the more than 213 Million CD's EMI gives to them. That's £0.00000000117370 per CD. Now subtract the greedy musician's 15% royalties, and poor EMI has only pulls in £0.00000000099764.5; not even enough to afford a spot of tea to quench their thirst after a hard day's work.
Oh, and I DO have a degree in Economics, but I didn't use one bit of it to write the preceding rant. -
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Simple policyA professor who teaches where I work has the following policy:
"Students in computer science can learn a lot from each other about how to get programs working. While I welcome and encourage this collaboration, there have to be some limits. Each homework you submit for credit must include an honesty statement. Either affirm that you worked entirely on your own, or indicate whom you consulted and the nature of your work together. (Naturally, if you consult another book or any reference besides the text, you will want to include an appropriate citation; the honesty statement is the place to do that, too.) You must understand homework that you submit for credit. If I have any doubts, I might call you in to explain any such work, and base your grade on your answers. Violations of these policies will be handled in accordance with the procedures explained in the College's handbook Standards of Academic Honesty."
This seems to work just fine, as well as being a succinct way of saying what I think we'd all mean. Reference: http://www.courses.drew.edu/sp2001/csci-101-001/
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What's the current infrastructure?The first thing is to is look at what's already available. The (admittedly smaller) university where I worked has a Novell network and the networking gods in Academic Technology managed to connect the Netware server to a linux box and serve pages in people's home directories out via Apache. Here's a description of how.
If there's something there that your users are familiar with, it'll be easier for them and for your support people.
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Re:this is news?
Not just bought, but owned outright from day one. Many of the Universities founded in the mid to late 19th century were founded by capitalists, or taken over my capitalists and given their current name.
For example, consider Drew University. The college was created by Daniel Drew, a back-stabbing cold-hearted money-grubbing capitalist robber baron. Nowadays, he'd been funding the University for a tax break. Back then, it was just to get into heaven. Many private institutions have a long history of being owned, either overtly or covertly, by various corporate influences.
The university where I work at, many of the computer science professors have worked at Lucent Technologies (or the same company under its earlier names). Some of my coworkers graduated from here, and where do you think they got jobs before returning? Who do you think provides 'grants' to various computer projects, in return for us pushing our best and brightest at them as cheap interns? Damn right, Lucent. I don't think of this as some evil 'selling out'. It is not like we're forcing these students into something or pimping them out. We are providing them with a tight relationship with one of the more innovative companies in the area. We get more grant money, they become rich, and leave us money in their will. Everyone benefits, the students, the university, and the 'giant evil faceless corporations'.
Though I do find it amusing that the brightest programmer we've got as a student right now has been turning down various corporate offers and GPL'ing his work. *grin* -
How aout Higher Ed?I worked for 6 years at a University helping faculty to use computers in their classes. I'm doing the corporate thing now (or trying), and I miss it a lot. We were using a lot of Linux solutions to problems and open source was a good thing. Check out this page to see the kind of thing they're doing.
Of course it takes the right place, and the pay isn't corporate, but you do feel like you're doing something that matters.