Domain: efn.no
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Comments · 18
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Re:boy do i not want thatNot surprising from Google, who insists on encoding even plain text messages as (would have been) shown above, base64. Hell, even
/. won't let me post what Google would send -Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted! Filter error: That's an awful long string of letters there.
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/. is right. Google is full of clueless Internet noob lameness.
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Yes. I think that pretty much exactly...what he's saying. email is a text medium, like it or not.
It a medium of communications, and text is the only content which can be assumed to be usable by any recipient. Sending anything other than plain old text, unless there is prior agreement between both sender and receiver, is a hinderance to communications.
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Re:RIAA should address the cause
What you can't do is make a copy of the book, or a copy of your CD, and give that to your friend while you keep the original.
Except in countries like "Norway" and a few other civilized parts of the world, where sharing between friends is perfectly legal, and is in fact, protected by law. Certain corporations are of course trying to change this, so it's not easy to say how long it will remain the way that it has been for decades.
More information can probably be found at EFN. -
Re:A Name!
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Let's go the whole mile..
Let's be a bit more precise, since being precise is rather important in legal matters..
What the norwegian court found (in Norwegian) was:
"DVD-Jon" did not have the intention to promote piracy, but to enable playing on Linux, and enable making back-ups of his DVDs.
The court also found that there is a fair-use right to a backup copy. They also found that licenses voiding this right were unenforcable.
They also found that the reverse-engineering done by "the nomad" (not Jon himself) was done in order to obtain interoperability, and thus legal under Norwegian and European (91/250/EEC, article 6) law.
Hence, they found that decrypting DVDs using this information aquired through reverse-engineering in order to create backup-copies was legal.
Basically what I'm saying here, is that from the verdict, it is not clear that he would've been found innocent if the procecution had been able to prove he had created DeCSS with the intent to enable piracy.
So you can't generalize the ruling into "Decrypting DVD's is not illegal in Norway".
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EFF ~ EFN in Norway.
In Norway we have an organization similar to the Electronic Frontier Foundtation (EFF). They're called Elektronisk Forpost Norge (EFN). EFN has been collecting information about this case since it started.
Net information about the Jon Johansen ("DVD Jon") case -
EFF ~ EFN in Norway.
In Norway we have an organization similar to the Electronic Frontier Foundtation (EFF). They're called Elektronisk Forpost Norge (EFN). EFN has been collecting information about this case since it started.
Net information about the Jon Johansen ("DVD Jon") case -
Go Belgium! (I hope this happens here as well)I can see the same thing happening in Norway, as a lot of people are very upset about so-called copy protection disallowing the consumer to play their CDs in any old player or on the computer. Forcing a consumer to play their legally-owned CDs on "approved" players is in violation of Norwegian law. Furthermore, tiny print saying "copy protected" in any other language than Norwegian is also against the law.
Already as early as 2002, EFN (Norway's version of EFF) has launched campaigns against the purchase of certain types of CDs as well as offering assistance in pressing charges against record producers whose CDs damage CD and/or DVD players or computers.
By the way, the verdict against DVD-Jon is NOT going to be appealed!
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Go Belgium! (I hope this happens here as well)I can see the same thing happening in Norway, as a lot of people are very upset about so-called copy protection disallowing the consumer to play their CDs in any old player or on the computer. Forcing a consumer to play their legally-owned CDs on "approved" players is in violation of Norwegian law. Furthermore, tiny print saying "copy protected" in any other language than Norwegian is also against the law.
Already as early as 2002, EFN (Norway's version of EFF) has launched campaigns against the purchase of certain types of CDs as well as offering assistance in pressing charges against record producers whose CDs damage CD and/or DVD players or computers.
By the way, the verdict against DVD-Jon is NOT going to be appealed!
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Go Belgium! (I hope this happens here as well)I can see the same thing happening in Norway, as a lot of people are very upset about so-called copy protection disallowing the consumer to play their CDs in any old player or on the computer. Forcing a consumer to play their legally-owned CDs on "approved" players is in violation of Norwegian law. Furthermore, tiny print saying "copy protected" in any other language than Norwegian is also against the law.
Already as early as 2002, EFN (Norway's version of EFF) has launched campaigns against the purchase of certain types of CDs as well as offering assistance in pressing charges against record producers whose CDs damage CD and/or DVD players or computers.
By the way, the verdict against DVD-Jon is NOT going to be appealed!
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Re:Awesome!No, forvaltningsloven. At least an interpretation of it.
If you're in Norway, take a look at EFN's website. There, you can find information on how to make government agencies give you documents in "appropriate" formats.
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EFF around the world
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Re:Hip Hip . . .(not)
Yes, yup, ja, right, correct!
Sorry that I have to tell you this, but Norway's deal with EU through the EEC deal force Norway to implement a lot of EU directives - including the EUCD.
The Norwegian Department of Culture is expected to release a law proposal in february. If you want to do something about it, join Electronic Frontier Norway. -
Re:Can't anyone get it right?
"What really happened" has been discussed in the court for a week, just try to find someone who has translated the happennings into english
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Re:Binary modules
It's exactly the same as if Microsoft changed the Windows license to say you could not run any GPL programs under the Windows operating system. Imagine the screaming that would take place if they tried that.
Microsoft are busy working on just this and it's much worse than you would imagine. See the TCPA/Palladium FAQ.
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Making a case out of him using Linux
I watched the news on norwegian televison just 30 minutes ago. They said the prosecution actually made a huge case out of the fact that Johansen was a Linux users, saying Linux is popular among hackers
Here's another article.
Also, here's a statement from Electronic Frontier Norway (EFN) on the matter -
Re:Equivalents...
Here are some organisations to join:
EF Sweden www.efs.se
EF Norway www.efn.no
EF Finland www.effi.org
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Link to the EFNHmm, I think if the EFN ever does set up a fund to donate money to Jon's case, I'll have to donate money to that, too. I wonder if they'll have any trouble with currency conversions? Anyway, here's the link:
Of course, I'm not sure if they've set up the fund yet, but I plan to keep on checking back on their page to see how it is going, and I figured other people would be interested in the link too. (I think I can send an International Money Order, or something. I need to look into it.)
Oh, and thanks, Joh, for a thourough and informative answer to my questions.