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As a previous poster noted, there is still a BIG worldwide user community for the Commodore 64, along with the PET, VIC-20, 128, SX-64, Plus 4, and Amiga lines. In fact, I'm told there will be a Commodore 8-bit maintenance/repair clinic at this year's Vintage Computer Festival East (May 5-6, New Jersey) with the clinic led by ex-Commodore engineer Bil Herd who designed the 128. The event's web site is just being built but details should be online in the next few days; meanwhile they've got a Facebook page. Also noteworthy: a few years ago the keynote speaker was Chuck Peddle, who designed the MOST 6502 chip! That's on YouTube in four parts. It starts around 16 minutes into part 1.

I thought about saying just talk to her as an alternative but I figured it was fairly self-evident that if talking to them was an option you could choose to do so rather than trying to limit what she's able to see.

The settings are here. Under "Control your default privacy", select "Custom" and it will prompt you for custom settings. You can also change "How you connect" and "How tags work".

facebook does not serve its pages using php.
http://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/358/

http://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/358/

To have an exploitable buffer overflow, a programmer has to make a major mistake in the most fundamental area of programming

And that never happens, especially to people who implement their own stack rather than using one written by experienced coders in front of a lot of eyeballs!

Obviously there are questions of scale here. If you have the resources (eg you are Google) then there can certainly be advantages (in many areas as well as security) to having your own stack. However if you are just a guy with an idea then you might have to make a pragmatic decision now and worry about some of the issues that come from that external dependancy later otherwise you'll get too bogged down to get a product out of the door.

Consider this - Facebook uses a lot of open source projects to deliver their site; and they've contributed a lot back to those projects. They may not release source directly (though there is http://developers.facebook.com/opensource/), but does that really matter in the end (as others have pointed out)? Even if they don't contribute 100% of their changes back (which since they are not distributing the code to others they are perfectly fine to do per the GPL - all versions of it), they are still doing well with promoting open source in many ways, and the fact that they've opened up an API that others can utilize without hinderance enables the platform they do deliver to be relatively easy to access from RMS "free" open source areas.

Same for Google, which does do some distribution but also funds a lot of open source projects through Google Summer of Code.

So how exactly are they hindering open source?

Even Microsoft has released several projects (wix.sf.net to name one) under true open source terms (GPL).

Actually.... the summary does mention that the lack of open source code from Facebook and Google is "hindering open source development."

Ah yes, Facebook has really waged a war on Open Source by not releasing code, eh? And don't get me started on those bastards at Google.

diyelectriccar.com is the main source for me. I used off the shelf contactor and controller. Used forklift motor set me back 100$ shipped on ebay. 00 wire is about as small as you should consider in my book. After using the forum to determine how easy it was, i didn't even read the manuals that came with the parts. It's harder to hook up a surround sound system(more wires). These wires are just bigger. Oh, and mounting the motor to the transmission is only as hard as you make it. I welded a pulley to a piece of the original clutch.(google electriclemon for more info on this part.) https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.109683400126.117327.665000126&type=1&l=0a028722c1 i have photos up there.

These are all so easy to fake, it's hard to know.

I know 3 people named Steve Wright. How does Facebook know which one I'm referring to at any particular time.

I can narrow that down for you. The one who mentions he has a map of the US - its actual size (legend says "1 mile = 1 mile") - and lives at "E4" is Steven Wright.

On the contrary. It says (I think quite clearly): Deletion When you delete an account, it is permanently deleted from Facebook. It typically takes about one month to delete an account, but some information may remain in backup copies and logs for up to 90 days. You should only delete your account if you are sure you never want to reactivate it. You can delete your account at: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=delete_account

Some of that's cleverly worded:

Access requests
  We provide initial responses to access requests within a reasonable period of time, typically within thirty days. You can also download a copy of everything you've put into Facebook by visiting your “Account Settings” and clicking on “Download a copy of your Facebook data”.

Of course, "everything you've put into Facebook" isn't all the data held about an individual, hence they still need to allow data access requests.

Deletion
  When you delete an account, it is permanently deleted from Facebook. It typically takes about one month to delete an account, but some information may remain in backup copies and logs for up to 90 days. You should only delete your account if you are sure you never want to reactivate it. You can delete your account at: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=delete_account

Is that what you see? Because that's what I see, and I think that's OK?
There's no mention of deleting individual posts, comments etc.

I think I agree with you. I never understood why people complain about what sites do when all of what they do is in the terms.

From what I can tell, pretty much everything there is to know about how your data is used by Facebook is on:

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
http://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy
http://developers.facebook.com/policy/
http://www.facebook.com/ad_guidelines.php

All that comes in at about 15000 words. Sure, this will probably take you more than a few minutes to read and understand, unless you are Lt. Cmdr. Data. But if it is so important to you, than why not spend the time?

I have an feeling that people are either too lazy for their own good, or just like to see injustice where there is none because they like the feeling of righteous indignation

Sorry, I don't usually rant; please, anyone, do not take this post as impugning you personally; and I am probably missing many good counter-points.

I think I agree with you. I never understood why people complain about what sites do when all of what they do is in the terms.

From what I can tell, pretty much everything there is to know about how your data is used by Facebook is on:

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
http://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy
http://developers.facebook.com/policy/
http://www.facebook.com/ad_guidelines.php

All that comes in at about 15000 words. Sure, this will probably take you more than a few minutes to read and understand, unless you are Lt. Cmdr. Data. But if it is so important to you, than why not spend the time?

I have an feeling that people are either too lazy for their own good, or just like to see injustice where there is none because they like the feeling of righteous indignation

Sorry, I don't usually rant; please, anyone, do not take this post as impugning you personally; and I am probably missing many good counter-points.

I think I agree with you. I never understood why people complain about what sites do when all of what they do is in the terms.

From what I can tell, pretty much everything there is to know about how your data is used by Facebook is on:

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
http://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy
http://developers.facebook.com/policy/
http://www.facebook.com/ad_guidelines.php

All that comes in at about 15000 words. Sure, this will probably take you more than a few minutes to read and understand, unless you are Lt. Cmdr. Data. But if it is so important to you, than why not spend the time?

I have an feeling that people are either too lazy for their own good, or just like to see injustice where there is none because they like the feeling of righteous indignation

Sorry, I don't usually rant; please, anyone, do not take this post as impugning you personally; and I am probably missing many good counter-points.

I think I agree with you. I never understood why people complain about what sites do when all of what they do is in the terms.

From what I can tell, pretty much everything there is to know about how your data is used by Facebook is on:

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
http://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy
http://developers.facebook.com/policy/
http://www.facebook.com/ad_guidelines.php

All that comes in at about 15000 words. Sure, this will probably take you more than a few minutes to read and understand, unless you are Lt. Cmdr. Data. But if it is so important to you, than why not spend the time?

I have an feeling that people are either too lazy for their own good, or just like to see injustice where there is none because they like the feeling of righteous indignation

Sorry, I don't usually rant; please, anyone, do not take this post as impugning you personally; and I am probably missing many good counter-points.

But when I have a reasonable expectation for something to be deleted forever

Not when their data usage policy spells out when it ISNT deleted, and gives no guarentees.

Im almost CERTAIN that these sites are required to disclose what they gather and how they use said data. If only facebook complied and had some kind of policy...

Ill note that their policy (same as basically every other policy out there) indicates that they will keep data for at least 90 days after deletion, and do not guarentee a time of deletion.

What should be illegal (not really) is people using a free service and then complaining that they dont like how it functions. What the heck do you THINK youre signing up for when you use an advertising supported social networking site known for data collection? That theyre trying to take a loss on you?

You know who else doesn't have a Facebook account?
Ted Kaczynski. lol whut?

No they haven't:

http://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/358/

They've been converting PHP to C++ and compiling it with GCC.

They haven't been using straight PHP for at least 3 years now for precisely the reason that it hasn't scaled for them as they've needed it to.

hip hop has been open source for quite a while. At least a year.

Yes. But this is not about the ahead of time compiler and the interpreter that were released back then, but rather about the new hhvm interpreter, which was released recently.

I very rarely bag grass clippings unless I've let the lawn grow too long and it'll look like a hayfield if i didn't. Leaves, though? I have 11 fully mature trees in my yard, and one year we raked 104 bags of leaves. If I mulched, we'd be 3 inches deep in the stuff.

for most of http://facebook.com/$WORD, $WORD is not anyone's trademark.

Not having a Facebook account myself, I was not aware of this fact.

I know a site that you do use, which will show you exactly the same situation. Look at this page and its URL.

Should all websites scan their own URLs for trademarks

Proactively? Not necessarily. Upon notice from an owner of a famous trademark? Perhaps.

for most of http://facebook.com/$WORD, $WORD is not anyone's trademark.

Not having a Facebook account myself, I was not aware of this fact.

Perhaps the most legally justifiable answer might be to geolocate the IP address, find the correct trademark owner for a given country, and then redirect to MSD's or EMD's Facebook page as appropriate.

Do your website(s) do that? Should all websites scan their own URLs for trademarks, and redirect some of those URLs to other sites, and then give the previous content some other URL that is guaranteed to not look like someone else's name? Maybe all websites should be search engines, with of course the trademark name database being top priority.

Facebook doesn't represent their URL components as being company names, just like your site probably doesn't. In fact, for most of http://facebook.com/$WORD, $WORD is not anyone's trademark.

And God help review sites. If http://example.com/reviews/exodus is required to point to Exodus' site, then example.com has to post their review of Fabulous Disaster at http://example.com/reviews/butthead_astronomer. This is just silly.

If force is being used against Facebook over this, then 1) that's an outrage 2) they did the right thing in response to it: have http://facebook.com/$WORD do a 404 or something like that.

Perhaps the most legally justifiable answer might be to geolocate the IP address, find the correct trademark owner for a given country, and then redirect to MSD's or EMD's Facebook page as appropriate.

Do your website(s) do that? Should all websites scan their own URLs for trademarks, and redirect some of those URLs to other sites, and then give the previous content some other URL that is guaranteed to not look like someone else's name? Maybe all websites should be search engines, with of course the trademark name database being top priority.

Facebook doesn't represent their URL components as being company names, just like your site probably doesn't. In fact, for most of http://facebook.com/$WORD, $WORD is not anyone's trademark.

And God help review sites. If http://example.com/reviews/exodus is required to point to Exodus' site, then example.com has to post their review of Fabulous Disaster at http://example.com/reviews/butthead_astronomer. This is just silly.

If force is being used against Facebook over this, then 1) that's an outrage 2) they did the right thing in response to it: have http://facebook.com/$WORD do a 404 or something like that.

Submitted by RockDoctor on Sunday November 27, @07:40PM

RockDoctor writes "The Beeb [LINK http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15888843%5D are reporting a rather complex case with potentially quite deep implications for social media.

The case stretches back to the end of the First World War, when the well-established German drug company Merck was split up by the victorious powers, leaving a German rum company (Merck KGaA) and a multinational (Merck & Co). Both companies still exist, and as the preceding links show, have managed to deal with the potential "namespace" collisions on the general Internet.

Merck KGaA entered into an "agreement" (by implication, a contract) with Facebook to use the page http://www.facebook.com/Merck in 2010, and they were getting some use out of the page, needing to get administrative rights for several employees. So far, so good ; Merck KGaA are obviously relatively savvy to how the Internet works and have done "the right thing" (including, from a typical-Slashdot-user's IT-worker-friendly perspective, assigning a budget and staff to this part of their IT and internet presence).

But on October 11, 2011, Merck KGaA's staff found that the page now pointed to content from their competitors Merck & Co, and that they had lost administrative control of the page.

So, what is going on? Well, it's not clear. The staff at Facebook are not responding in any meaningful sense (according to the Beeb's report). There are a number of possible scenarios where genuine mistakes have been made, or seemingly-reasonable policies have had unintended consequences While researching for TFS (This Fucking Summary) I originally got to the Merck KGaA website by guessing "merck.de" , at which point I got a redirect ; which is what you'd expect. Equally I got to Merck & Co by guessing at [drum roll] merck.com ; which is again what you'd expect to happen. This reflects the essential separation of the .de and .com TLDs.

In effect Facebook has itself become an important TLD. So collisions in this new namespace are to be expected. And what policies Facebook applies to resolve namespace disputes is a matter of general interest."

To reiterate one of my questions : it is possible for this to be either a genuine misunderstanding, or a mis-applied policy, or an unintended consequence of a seemingly reasonable policy. However, after an initial period of "WTF has happened?", silence is not an appropriate response from FB.

Really? When I go to http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf I see things like

You will resolve any claim, cause of action or dispute (claim) you have with us arising out of or relating to this Statement or Facebook exclusively in a state or federal court located in Santa Clara County. The laws of the State of California will govern this Statement, as well as any claim that might arise between you and us, without regard to conflict of law provisions. You agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of the courts located in Santa Clara County, California for the purpose of litigating all such claims.

and

If you are a resident of or have your principal place of business in the US or Canada, this Statement is an agreement between you and Facebook, Inc. Otherwise, this Statement is an agreement between you and Facebook Ireland Limited. References to "us," "we," and "our" mean either Facebook, Inc. or Facebook Ireland Limited, as appropriate.

(Smartquotes replaced with regular quotes because /. is stupid)

In fact the part I quoted contains the only two mentions of Ireland on the page as it's displayed to me.

I can only conclude that at least part of what you see on that page is determined by Geolocation or login status (I don't have a Facebook account any more).

The difference is that if you go to facebook.com/abcd, there is a reasonable expectation to find company abcd's information there, not some other (let alone a rival's) information.

In the case of your webserver, by virtue of the fact that it is not the de facto social networking site, where vanity URL's are associated with companies, it probably wouldn't be an actionable issue.

With all this said, Facebook seems to claim to respect IP, trademarks and copyright, while at the same time saying they can yank back any name they want, for any reason:

http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=147505728655200

When I go to http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf I see:
"Company Information

  The website under www.facebook.com and the services on these pages are being offered to you by:

  Facebook Ireland Limited
  Hanover Reach, 5-7 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2 Ireland
http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=impressum_contact or impressum-support@support.facebook.com

  Board of directors: Marc Andreesen, Jim Breyer, Donald Graham, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg

  The company Facebook, Inc. has been established and registered according to the law of the state of Delaware.
  Registration number: 3835815, Secretary of State, State of Delaware"

There are also these terms that apply only in Germany: http://www.facebook.com/terms/provisions/german/index.php

So it's not as simple as you might think.

When I go to http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf I see:
"Company Information

  The website under www.facebook.com and the services on these pages are being offered to you by:

  Facebook Ireland Limited
  Hanover Reach, 5-7 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2 Ireland
http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=impressum_contact or impressum-support@support.facebook.com

  Board of directors: Marc Andreesen, Jim Breyer, Donald Graham, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg

  The company Facebook, Inc. has been established and registered according to the law of the state of Delaware.
  Registration number: 3835815, Secretary of State, State of Delaware"

There are also these terms that apply only in Germany: http://www.facebook.com/terms/provisions/german/index.php

So it's not as simple as you might think.

When I go to http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf I see:
"Company Information

  The website under www.facebook.com and the services on these pages are being offered to you by:

  Facebook Ireland Limited
  Hanover Reach, 5-7 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2 Ireland
http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=impressum_contact or impressum-support@support.facebook.com

  Board of directors: Marc Andreesen, Jim Breyer, Donald Graham, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg

  The company Facebook, Inc. has been established and registered according to the law of the state of Delaware.
  Registration number: 3835815, Secretary of State, State of Delaware"

There are also these terms that apply only in Germany: http://www.facebook.com/terms/provisions/german/index.php

So it's not as simple as you might think.

Merck Germany filed in NY so it could do discovery and find out who moved their cheese. It's not clear at this point if the FB page was turned over to Merck US by FB, or by someone else (Merck Germany employee or contractor) who had administrative privileges.

But, just as FB support multiple "John Smith" pages, there are multiple Merck pages. Merck Germany still has one, with posts going back more than a year, but which was pretty inactive. The US Merck has it's own page. So, maybe the Germans are just clueless or confused. Or, maybe it's because the simple link - http://www.facebook.com/Merck is linked to the US one (the full URI to the US one permanently redirects to the simple one), but it used to be linked to the German one. It seems to me that's something FB would have done - I doubt a user can control that. And, FB may have done that simply to point to the more active and popular "Merck." The US site has had 30 posts since September, the German one, 19 in a year and a half.

Merck Germany filed in NY so it could do discovery and find out who moved their cheese. It's not clear at this point if the FB page was turned over to Merck US by FB, or by someone else (Merck Germany employee or contractor) who had administrative privileges.

But, just as FB support multiple "John Smith" pages, there are multiple Merck pages. Merck Germany still has one, with posts going back more than a year, but which was pretty inactive. The US Merck has it's own page. So, maybe the Germans are just clueless or confused. Or, maybe it's because the simple link - http://www.facebook.com/Merck is linked to the US one (the full URI to the US one permanently redirects to the simple one), but it used to be linked to the German one. It seems to me that's something FB would have done - I doubt a user can control that. And, FB may have done that simply to point to the more active and popular "Merck." The US site has had 30 posts since September, the German one, 19 in a year and a half.

Merck Germany filed in NY so it could do discovery and find out who moved their cheese. It's not clear at this point if the FB page was turned over to Merck US by FB, or by someone else (Merck Germany employee or contractor) who had administrative privileges.

But, just as FB support multiple "John Smith" pages, there are multiple Merck pages. Merck Germany still has one, with posts going back more than a year, but which was pretty inactive. The US Merck has it's own page. So, maybe the Germans are just clueless or confused. Or, maybe it's because the simple link - http://www.facebook.com/Merck is linked to the US one (the full URI to the US one permanently redirects to the simple one), but it used to be linked to the German one. It seems to me that's something FB would have done - I doubt a user can control that. And, FB may have done that simply to point to the more active and popular "Merck." The US site has had 30 posts since September, the German one, 19 in a year and a half.

American soil? Facebook's international HQ is in Dublin. That makes its international operations subject to E.U. law.

If Lieberman is so upset about Terrorist Content, has he seen the islamophobic drek that's rapidly growing in the US?

Last year, WordPress.com deleted a blog after CAIR complained that it contained posts that advocated burning mosques, making false bomb threats implicating Muslims, desecrating Muslim graves, and that recommended the “proper way to shoot a muslim [sic].”

Again, they're asking Wordpress to suspend the popular hate site Bare naked Islam. I love free speech, but this is one of those sites that inspires future Anders Breviks. It routinely calls to violence against American Muslims and supports desecrating mosques. “I want [Muslim] blood on my hands as a matter of principle” was one of their tamer comments I can post.

I haven't seen Jose Pimentel's blog, but I'm sure it's tamer than hate sites like these that are flourishing.

Why not Ackee Inc?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ackee-Inc-of-Florida/147345628643555
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackee

>>You can not close and delete your account. You can't even close it afaik.

Yes, you can...or at least they will provide the illusion that it's closed/deleted.

Here's a link to the "Delete Facebook" group containing instructions and further details. I started the deletion process myself yesterday, and as long as I don't log in for 14 days, FB claims it will be permanently deleted. Of course I don't believe for a millisecond that my personal content will actually BE deleted.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16929680703

especially when you do something as genius as this guy.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.148698001828171.22455.100000639155856&type=3

Drinking everyday for Mr. Skopec.

More to the point who is going enforce the German law?

As I posted elsewhere, the court can order German ISPs to block facebook.

Or just send the bailifs round to Facebooks office in Hamburg

Facebook.de / German-language facebook / office in the city of.. Hamburg, Germany.
( http://www.facebook.com/careers/department.php?dept=hamburg )

So... Yes.

There are content providers starting to use Dual-Stack so they are supporting both IPv4 and IPv6.
Here are just some of them:
http://www.v6.facebook.com/
http://ipv6.google.com/
http://www.comcast6.net/

Bit of a shame they still don't publish AAAA records for their main addresses though :(

Also, v6 facebook is a bit broken - a lot of their internal links are absolute references to www.facebook.com, so you only have to click a few things and suddenly you find you're on the v4 site instead of the v6 one.

There are content providers starting to use Dual-Stack so they are supporting both IPv4 and IPv6. Here are just some of them: http://www.v6.facebook.com/ http://ipv6.google.com/ http://www.comcast6.net/

there were complaints that you were no longer limited to fooling corporations and that this prank tricked activists as well.

Oh no! Activists were pranked! The humanity!

I don't know who your targets often are but one of your recent results from the Yes Lab and Black Flood was to fool people into thinking that The Hobbit was being filmed in the Tar Sands in Canada. This apparently raised awareness of the Tar Sands but also there were complaints that you were no longer limited to fooling corporations and that this prank tricked activists as well. So I must ask, is there a line that you won't cross on who you will prank and who you absolutely will not prank? Is anyone a potential target for these shenanigans? Is no one safe? Children? Impoverished people? Cancer patients? Related follow up, have you personally ever felt bad about someone or some group (perhaps an innocent bystander) that fell into being duped by your antics?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003106852728

Facebook has also committed to support the e-ink Kindle Touch
Press release

Orignal story dates from the 5th of may (6 month old stories now Slashdot, really ?) There was a flurry of news reporting and no updates since then, not even on their Facebook page where the restaurant gleefully displayed its new found notoriety. So I'm guessing it turned out to be very much a non-story played up for advertising value.

Does Facebook have any recourse if Google explicitly ignores the robots.txt for their site as well as the site scraping TOS, http://www.facebook.com/apps/site_scraping_tos_terms.php?

Yes. Facebook suspended Google's account.