Domain: freedomship.com
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Comments · 19
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Freedom ship
Hopefully it'll take off better than the gigantic Freedom ship (check out the pictures). The Freedom Ship seems like a giant scam to me.
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Re:Globalization Demands Open Borders
Um, ok. You don't like my 100 million migrate worker city idea. How about 1,000 of these http://www.freedomship.com/freedomship/overview/d
That is an excellent improvement on your original idea. If this fleet were flagged under the US, then the navy problem would be solved. Too bad that Freedom Ship seems to have stalled since I last checked up on them (last news story is early 2005).e sign.shtml ? They are supposed to house 100,000K each. I'd want them to be defended with a navy though so let's say 100 navy ships as well. Now we just need to power the things with nuclear reactors and have some hydroponics and we'd be set with a mobile nation. -
Re:Globalization Demands Open Borders
I think some massive global migration would be good for us overall. The hurricane caused our first real widespread migration this generation in the US.
I disagree. There was considerable outmigration from California in the last 10 or 20 years. And there's a lot of people who are high mobility. For example, there's a growing population of retirement aged travellers living partially or fully out of an RV.
Could you envision a city purpose built for 100 million migrate workers? We just don't think on that level, yet.
That's probably a really bad idea. The concentration of infrastructure and population would make a very tempting military target. I recommend some degree of decentralization.
Um, ok. You don't like my 100 million migrate worker city idea. How about 1,000 of these http://www.freedomship.com/freedomship/overview/de sign.shtml ? They are supposed to house 100,000K each. I'd want them to be defended with a navy though so let's say 100 navy ships as well. Now we just need to power the things with nuclear reactors and have some hydroponics and we'd be set with a mobile nation. -
Re:next frontier
I think you mean something like this?
The problem with any sovereign nation, especially one at sea is the dependence on external resources. Just ask Japan how it goes.
I do think this is a cool idea, there is plenty of water given desalinization, and if you have a small nuclear reactor on board, you can generate heat and electricity for 15 years per refit. But food? Granted you can grow your own hydroponics, but for the number of people they are talking about, the infrastructure would be quite large.
And then there is the issue of defense. Would you devise your own weapons, or buy from the USA or the Chinese? Choose your alliances well, because they might just end up costing you your country.
No, thanks, starting a new country on this planet is quite impossible. Even at it's face, Iraq's reconstruction is fraught with problems. I say lets just kick the bums out who are in control and have some France-style awakening. -
Re:Who said it was US registered?You could build a floating condominium outside US jurisdiction.
There's some prior art for that idea...Freedom Ship
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YHBT?
While this is a cool idea, and something I've pondered myself (it would be very hard to make it work), I think you guys have been trolled.
There is some merit to the idea (or at least varients of it), though. What's to stop someone from buying an old aircraft carrier, refitting it, and declaring it a sovereign nation? It would probably be difficult to get large nations to recognize it, but that wouldn't necessarily be a problem.
Of course, I'm far from the first to have such an idea, but I haven't seen anyone else suggesting that such a vessel could or should be a sovereign nation. Maybe I'm just crazy. Crazy like a fox! -
Ahoy There Matey, Arrr
That made me think of two things:
http://www.freedomship.com/
(a project that is not going anywhere soon, but a cool concept), and
http://www.sealandgov.com/
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Re:I wish I could start a nation at sea
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Re:I'd do it if it came down to it
It's on the way: http://freedomship.com/
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Re:Moller
The website guarantees you'll have your skycar by Dec 31st, 2006 if you make your $100,000 deposit (and pay nearly $1M more on delivery).... except their not accepting orders yet.
I've been watching this for years, and the Freedom Ship. They should get together and then everyone could have skycars on the freedomship instead of needing that massive runway. -
Re:Flying cars, yippie
I would drive this to my home aboard the Freedomship
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Re:huh
They say that sea levels will rise due to the greenhouse effect...perhaps keeping it up would be a good thing.
Or perhaps we could all just set sai like this.
Desalination would be vital if you live in a floating city. If the world's population continues to grow then not only does this provide more living space, but more 'farm land' too.
But then again, I've been writing PHP code solidly for the last two days and I'm feeling kind of trippy. So perhaps the best course of action would be to make the US approve Kyoto after all. -
Re:WOWNot quite the ship as seen on Extreme Engineering...
Look over the web site. It's practically science fiction. It's a neat concept but I just can't see it actually succeeding, let alone financed and built.
Although like an aircraft carrier, Freedom Ship (the name of the ship, if you didn't follow the link) does have the ability to have aircraft take off and land on it.
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Re:Eh?
Even with all the terrible accidents (one, to be more specific), Concorde is still much more capable than a meteorite. And it's not that meteorites evolved through natural selection. Howether, you actually can say that about meteoroids - they did evolve, while meteorites and meteors can be considered "unfit".
:) But if we limit ourselves to comparing evolution on Earth with the achievements of human science and technology, meteor*s do not enter the picture.
Some supertankers weight at least 500 thousand tons empty. Less than a million (although there might be ones that weight more), but still impressive. And hopefully the Freedom Ship will be built soon. -
Re:You are still free to use alternative solutions[X] Agnostic
[X] Anti-social
[X] Freedom lover
Where do I sign up?
:)No need for the free state project when you can start from scratch with your own floating city.
(Of course, engineering on this scale will become magnitudes easier when bottom-up manufacturing replaces the ages old top-down bulktech.)
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Re:whooosh..Sky high dream - check.
Incomplete management team - check.
No business plan - check.I am going to put into this company all the money I've made from investing in the Freedom Ship project.
yo.
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Freedom Ship
You don't want Sealand, you want Freedom Ship. Who knows whether it will ever see the light of day, but the idea intrigues me. More the idea of travelling around the world over the course of 2 years, but it has several benefits that could appeal to the Slashdot crowd.
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Re:Offshore ISP?You could base it here:
http://www.freedomship.com/
(a project to build a mobile libertarian haven disguised as an overgrown cruise ship)
From the Freedom Ship Web Site (my emphasis added):
Governing Laws
Freedom Ship is only a ship, not a political entity. It will operate under the same rules and regulations as any cruise ship. As a sea-going commercial vessel, it will fly the flag of a specific country (to be determined at a later date), enjoy the protection of that country, and be subject to its laws and regulations, as well as to maritime law. In addition, its residents will be subject to the ships Rules and Regulations.
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Land? Who needs land?
Especially when you have a floating country! But then you don't need to be virtual at all... You'd just have a lot of expatriates.