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Firefox with Group Policies
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Re:or it could be...
You may want to check this out. Not sure if it would meet your needs or what all it provides (I haven't tried it yet). It's a repackaged Firefox which works with GPOs by FrontMotion.
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Re:What did I gain?Re firefox, what I meant was that you cannot enforce, distribute and lock in configuration changes. To be fair any restrictions on IE could be gotten around, but I do see your point that it would increase the security of a system where the user wasn't actively trying to get around the restrictions. Of course on the other hand a flaw in the IE parser that allows privilege escalation isn't going to be stopped by a policy file preventing the user from changing their homepage or whatever. The lack of a policy tool for Firefox was actually one of the top listed reasons why corporations are hesitant to standardize on Firefox. There are a couple third party tools to perform centralized management of Firefox, but the Mozilla foundation has gone on record as saying they won't officially support any of them because they don't feel it's their job to provide OS specific nanny tools. See for instance Firefox MSI and FirefoxADM
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Re:I would blame this on...
Well, here's something that may help. We use this to deploy FF in our AD environment.
Allows you to install over AD and has a snap-in allowing certain settings to be controlled over AD. The packages are free, or you can have them make a custom package with specific extensions for a fee. -
FrontMotion Firefox Community Edition?
Has no one heard of FrontMotion Firefox Community Edition?
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Re:The real reason uptake is slow...MSI builds of Firefox: http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/fmfirefox.htm
They're configurable with Group Policy, or at least that's what the website says.
Of course, you'll need to get your SMS admin to agree to this. What is the point of not shipping Firefox packaged in MSI installer file? It is the native install method of Windows. Same goes for Apple OS X. They also refuse Installer.app method of installing and provide a non functional "Applications" link having drag drop file. What happens as result? OS X remote desktop having users/companies get hassle. In future, it will be a more hassle since Installer.app is evolving to become MSI like thing.
If they are boycotting (?) Windows, they should boycott alltogether. They are just harming their own programs popularity and enterprise acceptance via not using MSI or Installer.app. MSI also has some handy functions for users which may prevent certain "IE install" accidents (!!) too. E.g. one may auto-repair Firefox installation if some Microsoft tool "accidentally" deleted some parts in future.
If an OS has a native installer facility, it should be chosen. It is even funnier on OS X, I keep hearing some nightmare scenarios with Installer.app and yet Apple happily ships monster sized OS updates using that architecture. -
Re:The real reason uptake is slow...
MSI builds of Firefox: http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/fmfirefox.htm
They're configurable with Group Policy, or at least that's what the website says.
Of course, you'll need to get your SMS admin to agree to this. -
Re:An even simpler solution
You can manage Firefox and IE in a Active Directory and lock down both with GPO. To do this you can use FrontMotion's Firefox CE that is GPO aware and can be locked down to use a proxy or a certain default homepage. We use it at our University in the labs and it works great. Link: http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/fmfirefox.htm
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Firefox enterprise deployment information
OK I'm going to collect all the information I've found on this topic into this post for posterity.
Bugzila bug discussing Firefox MSI installer. Discusses Mozilla's view on things and what different people want in order to deploy Firefox on large scale desktops.
Instructions on how to package official Firefox releases into an MSI.
UK University admin blog talking about Firefox and System Administration. Talks about deployment of Firefox on enterprise desktops, issues with GPO and links to projects and resources and pros and cons with various packaging attempts.
3rd Party Frontmotion Firefox MSI installer. Pros - readily available. Cons - from a 3rd party (trustworthiness, how long will it be supported for, will they start charging...) -
Re:Keeping Firefox up to date on Windows
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Re:Keeping Firefox up to date on Windows
Frontmotion produce an msi file that ca be roled out using active directory. File available here Features: * Active Directory deployable and upgradeable. * Desktop Icon and Shell integration similar to IE. * Set Default browser as an option (INSTALLLEVEL=1000) * Macromedia Flash plug-in preinstalled * Detect and upgrades non-MSI installs. * Can upgrade 3rd party MSI's from patpaul/MIT, Webheat.co.uk, and ZettaServe. * Able to properly perform uninstalls and restores system associations
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Re:Deploying FireFox via GPO
http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/
Not official from Mozilla, but well-maintained and not a hack. I wouldn't dismiss it because it's not "official"; the whole point of open-source is third parties being able to do things with the code. -
Re:Deploying FireFox via GPO
A quick search for "firefox msi" gives this site as a result for what you are looking for. I could have sworn that Mozilla posted MSI's for Firefox nowadays, but I guess I was wrong.
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Re:Mostly On Topic: Updating Multiple Win2k/XP Box
Here ya go.
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Active Directory deployment
Let's not forget that you can also install firefox via active directory and even have it managable now.
MSI for Firefox -
Re:Firefox just banned - help me!
When I pressed them, their response was "with IE, even if there are 100 patches released every week - at least we have an automated way to distribute them to the thousands of systems in the corp. With Firefox, there is _no_ way to do this - so a single vulnerability puts us at a much greater risk"
There are .msi builds for Firefox that your IT people could use to deploy automatically. See http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/index.htm -
Why 1.0.6?
For those wondering why this particular version, it is the latest to support FULL msi options http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=138
0 33 as listed on the official mozillazine forums.
However if the people at DELL had of just gone one more click to the guys full site, they would see the latest MSIs built ready for pre-install or corp rollout needs http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/.
Big thanks to "DraconPern" for doing this, OEMer i been working at has been rolling this onto default install for around 14 months now, not had one gripe about bloatware, and quite a few thankyous from people for saveing them the effort :) -
Re:No MSI build for Firefox - no mass deployment
I have been using http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/ for about 7 months for a network of ~50 systems. I use this with FirefoxADM for some basic browser configuration. There will be the "ADM XPI for Firefox 1.5" which from my brief understanding will integrate Firefox config w/registry and allow for tighter group policy management.
It would definitely be nice to have an official MSI package (as it would attract many more admins) coupled with something like ADM XPI .. *hopefully* that will happen.. I thought I read that 1.5 would have an official MSI but couldn't find a reference. -
Re:No MSI build for Firefox - no mass deployment
There you go..
http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/
MSI installers for Mozilla Firefox! Useful for installing Firefox on a single computer for the home user or deploy across thousands of computers automatically with Microsoft's Active Directory. Use Firefox on your corporate computers to decrease virus incidents and increase overall security. Save time and frustration with our installer that is targeted toward the corporate IT administrator with manageability and upgradeability in mind. This is not just a wrapper around the exe installer nor is it another half baked 'captured' install. -
Re:Corporate deployments
Posts like this bother me. They really do. Here is someone who for the sake of arguement really is someone in IT who works with large corporations and has the authority to roll Firefox out.
One of the things he desperately needs to get Firefox out there is an MSI installer version.
Any yet he couldn't be bothered to type "firefox msi" into google where he'd fine exactly what he is looking for. I know Firefox isn't perfect, but come on don't go putting up artifical barriers to it when a solution is so easily at hand.
Very FIRST hit on google when you search for "firefox msi"
http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/
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Re:Enterprise FF/TB Managment
It's not quite official, but FrontMotion offers MSI files of Firefox and Thunderbird for free which can be deployed with almost any software management solution, including Group Policies
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Script it
psexec @computerstodeploy.txt -u user -p pass firefoxsetup.exe -ms
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Re:Easy...Is there possibly a portion of the group policy which would run an msi/executable update?
Yes. It's the "Software Settings" section under both Computer and User in Group Policy. It requires (AFAIK) an actual MSI, not one packed into a "setup.exe". It allows publication to Add/Remove Programs by user, and assignment for users or computers. You can also set upgrades there, as well as transforms.
Check these guys out as well. Their Firefox MSI works fine through GPO.
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Re:Unsure from your post...wpkg can definitely automate Firefox installs -- just finished testing it this weekend.
As I mentioned, you need a silent install. For F., there's different ways to do that:
- Use FrontMotion's MSI for Firefox
- Follow the instructions and created your own MSI using MakeMSI (which is free as in beer, not speech)
- Follow the instructions on Unattended's wiki and roll a silent install from the
.exe
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firefox 1.0.4 msi
Found this through google:
http://frontmotion.com/Firefox/
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Firefox MSI
If you want to continue to use windows and windows deployment tools, there is an msi package for firefox.
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Firefox & GPedit & firefox.msi
FirefoxADM is a way of allowing centrally managed locked and/or default settings in Firefox via Group Policy and Administrative Templates in Active Directory Latest news about FirefoxADM at http://spaces.msn.com/members/in-cider/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/firefoxadm
Unoffical Firefox MSI builds can be found at
http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/
Official Firefox Msi installers will be avaible in the 1.1 release nightly msi builds can be found at http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nig htly/latest-trunk/ the nighlies are not ready for general use yet, but are availbe for testing.
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Google is your friend
This website has downloadable MSI packages that will integrate Firefox into AD and GPO, as well as a howto.
This thread will show you how to do the same for OO.o, but only for the 2.0 beta version.
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Re:Security of IE versus Firefox
Unfortunately, IE is updated with the Automatic Windows Updates, while Firefox is only updated by us when a new Windows template is rolled out on all the computers every 6 months or so.
Have you considered using MSI? It allows for batched/remote updates of software packages under Windows. Nice if you don't have apt, urpmi, yum, etc on your platform of choice.Some Firefox MSIs are available:
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Re:Now make it easier to deploy in LAN
On Windows, you can install from the MSI file that Frontmotion package.
The Mozilla Foundation says an MSI installer blocks the 1.1 release. -
Re:The biggest downside to Firefox
Can't you people use html? :-)
Firefox MSI
GPO support for Firefox -
Re:The biggest downside to Firefox
Check out FrontMotion's Firefox MSI page for an excellent 3rd party MSI for Firefox (currently at 1.0.2 but regularly updated).
Otherwise, it's a stated goal for 1.1 to have an official MSI installer. -
Re:Actually, a good idea
Actually, you CAN install it on a windows network and manage it.. see:
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Re:Article Misleading
All updates and policy changes on this level are made either with MSI packages that are pushed out at 3 AM each night, or by just changing the group policy to allow it. They use WISE professional studio to do silent installs of all packages.
I posted it to the NOP PSU mailing list, and I'll post it here again. Firefox MSI Packages
Finkployd
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here's an app that uses flash...
...some of you may like this program for windows. the themes are all flash based and it is basically an alternative to the windows login screen. it works for win2k too!
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Re:Timing
I know it's not from the Mozilla Firefox team, but here is the msi you're looking for.
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Wish #2 granted
clickety click
Wish #1 presumably in progress as I type. -
Re:Forget search; focus on centralized administrat
No problem... btw, for some reason they haven't updated the web page to reflect this yet, but they do have an MSI for 1.0 final. Here's a direct link:
MSI package for Firefox 1.0 final
Enjoy
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Re:Forget search; focus on centralized administrat
This may not be as far away as you think:
You can share your requirements for better network deployability in Bug ID # 231062 in Bugzilla (I'm not gonna link directly to the bug since Bugzilla just blocks traffic from Slashdot anyway). That would help the devs improve the packages and get you the sort of thing you're talking about.