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implant in ethernet connector point to NSA's ANT catalog,
either "COTTONMOUTHIII" https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-...
or "FIREWALK" https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-...

implant in ethernet connector point to NSA's ANT catalog,
either "COTTONMOUTHIII" https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-...
or "FIREWALK" https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-...

That was likely a fake/forgery. Notice on the 4th "Powerpoint Slide", Apple is by itself WAY off to the side, and doesn't just show a date, like the rest of the entries. It looks to me like someone was desperately trying to "convince" the reader that this was "True".

No sorry, it wasn't.
If you look at any of the documentation that was leaked, they used to have a copy on Cryptome you would have seen that Apple was on the list of corporations who took money for access. If it is any consolation M$ sold out before Apple.

Also here:

"PRISM/US-984XN Overview

I didn't mean that particular site's "proof" was forged. I submit the "original" PowerPoint "document" that ALL these "sources" cite is the SAME FORGERY.

Show me some actual, official documents (not some fakey PowerPoint thing), and I might consider believing you.

Until then, it didn't happen.

That was likely a fake/forgery. Notice on the 4th "Powerpoint Slide", Apple is by itself WAY off to the side, and doesn't just show a date, like the rest of the entries. It looks to me like someone was desperately trying to "convince" the reader that this was "True".

No sorry, it wasn't. If you look at any of the documentation that was leaked, they used to have a copy on Cryptome you would have seen that Apple was on the list of corporations who took money for access. If it is any consolation M$ sold out before Apple.

Also here:

"PRISM/US-984XN Overview

It's OK, there's a second backup located here, and those guys never delete anything, ever.

You can trust some cloud-based backups, for example these guys meticulously back up everything, and never throw anything away.

My employer is also building up a massive repository of voice recordings, and we'd also be keen to get everyone's voiceprints on file. If people are interested in contributing, please contact bulkcollectionoffice@nsa.gov.

I understand that, but I'll ask again, where in the vault7 stuff does it indicate the CIA is monitoring calls where US citizens are on either end?

Why so willfully obtuse? We've known for years now that the U.S. "intelligence community" wants to grab every piece of information it can, from every person on the planet that it can. Hell, the NSA even tells you on their own fucking website that they want to "collect all available information from all available sources all the time, every time, always". Now, you think for one second that the CIA, which is in the business of lying to Congress and overthrowing Democracies, isn't spying on American citizens???

Are you sure about that?

https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-dat...

Seems like a mighty big facility to me.

The 1.5 billion-dollar one million square-foot Bluffdale / Camp Williams LEED Silver facility houses a 100,000 sq-ft mission critical Tier III data center. The remaining 900,000 SF is used for technical support and administrative space. Our massive twenty building complex also includes water treatment facilities, chiller plants, electric substation, fire pump house, warehouse, vehicle inspection facility, visitor control center, and sixty diesel-fueled emergency standby generators and fuel facility for a 3-day 100% power backup capability.

Data Storage Capacity

In February 2012, Utah Governor Gary R. Herbert revealed that the Utah Data Center would be the "first facility in the world expected to gather and house a yottabyte". Since then, conflicting media reports have also estimated our storage capacity in terms of zettabytes and exabytes. While the actual capacity is classified for NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS, we can say this: The Utah Data Center was built with future expansion in mind and the ultimate capacity will definitely be "alottabytes"!

@ArmoredDragon: "I've always found AMT useful. It's turned off by default, so I'm not sure how it's a security risk."

Either by accident or design, it allows for a backdoor into the system. I wouldn't be suprised it it didn't come with its own backdoor ref.

NO! My precious fitbit data! No one must know about my secret midnight workouts!

Ok, I know this is a low-grade troll, but hey, this is the sort of argument rummaging around in the back of laypeople's heads. Lemme tackle this one head on.

This boils down to ol' classic "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" argument, implying that anyone that is hiding anything, or advocates privacy in any way is up to no good. The broad scope of this argument has all sorts of come-backs: the right to privacy itself, unintended details becoming public (I was only half-joking about secret midnight workouts. Do you wear this thing to bed? Are you comfortable with everyone knowing when your wife woke you up?), security and vulnerability concerns, are you gay? Do you believe the earth is 6K years old? Do you want all your co-workers to know how much money you make/spend? Anyway, there are plenty of arguments for why privacy in general is good.

Specifically though, I lamented the fact that cops can go grab corporate data. You know, in pursuit of a criminal investigation, theoretically. And if the system worked as it was supposed to, and there was no police abuse, warrant were a real requirement, and they only used to catch the bad guys, hey, I'd be ok with that. I honestly do want the cops to be able to open locks when chasing anti-social criminal fuckers.
Unfortunately, the amount of trust I have in the system is waning. Now, the people with the authority to use these powers and ability to abuse these powers are really only going to make your life hard if they have cause to. It's not yet a for-profit system of abuse. NSA interns can probably still go search their girlfriends travel patterns, but meh. This is where the paranoid part come in. I'm worried about the legal system being bypassed (with warrantless wiretaps), all this data being collected as a routine measure (and stored in the NSA's Utah facility), and the current political powerhouse pressuring someone into giving them all the dirt on the opposing politician. Or some diehard Whig loyalist sending it anonymously. Or someone who hates black people and hippies. And now you have a sole political individual or party that has the power to dredge up the dirt on their opponent and run unopposed. I don't really care if some cop has the ability to look through my personal data. I'm honestly pretty vanilla and boring. But the idea that some hardliner could spy on my politician? Bad mojo right there.

Also, This is hilarious. Took me a bit to realize it was a parody site. We're approaching Poe's law when it comes to this stuff.

You can learn more about the NSA data center here.

Don't want to rain on the festival, but text messages is only one sub-set of the data that is being spied on. Here is the partial list, as presented by http://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html

internet searches (Google, Bing, Yahoo, Baidu)
websites visited (all anti-government websites and your xxx-rated websites becomes a permanent record)
emails sent and received
social media activity (Facebook, Twitter, World of Warcraft, Snapchat etc)
blogging activity including posts read, written, and commented on
videos watched and/or uploaded online
photos viewed and/or uploaded online
music downloads
mobile phone GPS-location data
mobile phone apps downloaded
phone call records
text messages sent and received
online purchases and auction transactions
bookstore receipts
credit card/ debit card transactions
bank statements
cable television shows watched and recorded
commuter toll records
parking receipts
electronic bus and subway passes / Smartpasses
travel itineraries
border crossings
surveillance cameras
medical information including diagnoses and treatments
prescription drug purchases
guns and ammunition sales
educational records
arrest records
driver license information

Of course, this information together with targeted SIGINT is put together and is being analyzed to identify any risks, as decided by policy makers.

So, Text messages is only a small piece of SIGINT

Everytime I reply to this post in AGREEMENT. My post is DELETED! This is my 3rd attempt at agreeing with the point being made here. I guess the post hits a little too close to home for some...

FINE FU MODS! Go ahead and BAN ME. Make my day.

Why would I want to participate in your CENSORED FORUM anyway??? Maybe you pathetic control freaks should ponder that....

Don't want to rain on the festival, but text messages is only one sub-set of the data that is being spied on. Here is the partial list, as presented by http://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html

internet searches (Google, Bing, Yahoo, Baidu)
websites visited (all anti-government websites and your xxx-rated websites becomes a permanent record)
emails sent and received
social media activity (Facebook, Twitter, World of Warcraft, Snapchat etc)
blogging activity including posts read, written, and commented on
videos watched and/or uploaded online
photos viewed and/or uploaded online
music downloads
mobile phone GPS-location data
mobile phone apps downloaded
phone call records
text messages sent and received
online purchases and auction transactions
bookstore receipts
credit card/ debit card transactions
bank statements
cable television shows watched and recorded
commuter toll records
parking receipts
electronic bus and subway passes / Smartpasses
travel itineraries
border crossings
surveillance cameras
medical information including diagnoses and treatments
prescription drug purchases
guns and ammunition sales
educational records
arrest records
driver license information

Of course, this information together with targeted SIGINT is put together and is being analyzed to identify any risks, as decided by policy makers.

So, Text messages is only a small piece of SIGINT

Precisely. Well said. As usual when someone hits the nail right on the head, no one tends to reply or acknowledge it in any way. That's why I am replying to this post right now.

Most people prefer to turn a blind eye to the truth. Real truth still frightens most kiddies. It's better to make jokes and dismiss serious matters without ever considering them...

Don't want to rain on the festival, but text messages is only one sub-set of the data that is being spied on. Here is the partial list, as presented by http://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html internet searches (Google, Bing, Yahoo, Baidu) websites visited (all anti-government websites and your xxx-rated websites becomes a permanent record) emails sent and received social media activity (Facebook, Twitter, World of Warcraft, Snapchat etc) blogging activity including posts read, written, and commented on videos watched and/or uploaded online photos viewed and/or uploaded online music downloads mobile phone GPS-location data mobile phone apps downloaded phone call records text messages sent and received online purchases and auction transactions bookstore receipts credit card/ debit card transactions bank statements cable television shows watched and recorded commuter toll records parking receipts electronic bus and subway passes / Smartpasses travel itineraries border crossings surveillance cameras medical information including diagnoses and treatments prescription drug purchases guns and ammunition sales educational records arrest records driver license information Of course, this information together with targeted SIGINT is put together and is being analyzed to identify any risks, as decided by policy makers. So, Text messages is only a small piece of SIGINT

??? How old ARE you? (OMG: I'm only 55 -- maybe I really am older and more paranoid than I thought.)

Let me get this straight: you gave away control of your unencrypted files to someone who wasn't a known personal friend and then am surprised that something happened to them??

I treat on-line services slightly differently: I keep local copies of EVERYTHING that goes out, and I'm surprised when it's still accessible online 5 minutes later, never mind 5 years later. And controlling exactly who has access to it? That's just a fantasy -- really. It's actually binary: either it's out there and they MIGHT have it, or it's not and they DON'T.

I do run Dropbox and use KeePass as a password manager. The credential store is encrypted, but even then the stored password there just isn't "quite right". Phone camera pics get uploaded to Dropbox. At times I'll AES encrypt and email or use Dropbox and expose. For stupid pics I'll just dump 'em out there straight. But I know what's exposed and encrypted-exposed. The latter die soon after they're used.

You store important and critical (tax receipts, lawyer-enforced) notices that might cause breach of contract? And you put control of that in someone else's hands, paid for or not? What kind of an IDIOT are you? Then again, you must not think much of the breaching penalties. That's great, I'm glad you're so confident at everyone always doing the right thing everywhere and nothing bad ever happening.

Me, if I'm going to have a some contract or data leakage it'll be because *I* did it myself and have no one else to blame. Then again, it's obvious digital computer files and paid services will stay around forever: Just ask MegaUpload, GeoCities, and LavaBit. Oh, and the data center located in the Twin Towers? Onsite backups sure came in handy there. Some got thru better than others: One, Two

Then again, there's this brand new data center that will hold all of your data for years -- all for free! I'm sure you can retrieve all of your data from that.

Really, I'm glad things are going so well for you, with the exception of a few bumps. And local storage doesn't solve everything either -- drives can be stolen, warrants can be served, computers can be hacked and data downloaded. But damn it, for 99.9% of my data, I'm 100% directly responsible for it. Offloading everything to the cloud is just offloading responsibility, never mind anything at all to do with the NSA.

Oh, one last thing. Even if all of the employees in the ISP, supporting companies, 3rd party vendors and everyone involved are all above reproach. are you sure? And even say all of the software is 100% vetted and accurate (ignoring accidental software bugs): oops.

Paranoid? Probably, but then again most things don't deserve multiple layers of defense. Only a few do, and of those only a select few get vetted, encrypted, backed up, and rotated offsite. But as for "What would you need if everything was suddenly gone (house fire) and you could only keep a couple of things?" Well there's your answer.

Good luck with it all; hope you produce a updated

Except for, you know, the public. The general public had no idea how ridiculous the surveillance was. I think everyone assumed there was some surveillance going on... but capturing everything? Really? At the tune of 80 billion a year? That money could go towards curing cancer or heart disease and they'd save a lot more lives than they ever will preventing the occasional terrorist attack, and it's doubtful they've actually prevented anything give that in most cases the perpetrators couldn't even find weapons or explosives without the undercover FBI agents offering to sell them the stuff.

It's also telling the as soon as a government starts complaining about what the US is doing, their own surveillance programs are revealed. The US is clearly involved in a heavy game of public distraction. The medias pretty much dropped this story, likely at their request, and can conveniently cover what all the other countries are doing. It's staggering that these actions are being presented in any way that is even remotely considered acceptable. All of this is completely unconstitutional, government officials including the president (past and present) should be facing prison time.

Come on, the NSA have just about complete access to the internet backbone, they were building datacenters and not even hiding it. There has been a wikipedia article on the one in Utah since 2011 and you could follow it's progress on Google maps courtesy of the NSA it self. Your tax dollars at work. What did everybody think the NSA is doing with facilities like this? It's not hard, 1+1=2, massive datacenter + complete access to internet backbone = massive SIGINT operation.

Did the NSA say this? I don't recall that they did

In big bold font on their homepage:

"If You Have Nothing to Hide, You Have Nothing to Fear"

I guess there is good reason to build this in Utah. Once they start collecting the content and not just the databases...all that data must go somewhere.